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May 09, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
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I'm not sure if this is realy necessary. I mean bitcoin is virtual digital currency and banknotes isn't something that bitcoin realy needs.

Does Bitcoin need smartphones, hot wallets, hardware wallets, Internet, servers, OTC desks, exchanges? Of course not, it is as beautiful in the white paper as it is in the real world.

We can't make it any less digital. Tangem Notes are just an interface. Like your smartphone wallet. But 100x more understandable and accessible to 7 billion people.

Ok, you should really start clearing things on your website and add more details.

Now, back to questions..
Since indeed coins can be extracted from the banknotes, what is the procedure for doing this?

Second,
What's your business plan?
Your not going to produce all those banknotes and chips just out of goodwill.... Roll Eyes
Where is the profit of Tandem going to come from?

We're relatively small and young and focused on technology, but a complete rework of the website and other materials is in progress, of course.

You can extract funds from a Tangem Note by asking it, over NFC, to sign a transaction from itself to an arbitrary address. For security, the note will require a perfect connection with the smartphone for 60–120 seconds, which requires a compatible device with a good NFC sensor and carefully touching the note with it for the duration. After that the smartphone broadcasts the transaction to the network.

Tangem Notes are met with extreme enthusiasm in every market we approached. Distribution channels are setting their markups when selling loaded Tangem Notes, which includes a relatively small cost of the note itself. Our goal is to pursue the mass market in the widest sense — enabling billions of people to use crypto.

Good concept I guess? The challenge is to make them easy and quick to transact. The problem with this is that before you actually accept the "banknotes" you need to scan them one by one to confirm that it actually does contain some btc.

Correct me if there's something I missed.

Yeah, I see this becoming a problem though. It would be interesting if a banknote could in a sense "self destruct". It's not very user friendly to have to scan each note and then having to dispose them. Outside of long term storage I don't see these being very logical as an application or other form of integration would be easier to use on a daily basis.

Validation is quick, technically NFC can work through stacks of cards — we're working to make this possible with some Android smartphones — and for large cashflow situations we can make note counters. For national cryptocurrencies, governments can choose to restrict extraction to accredited entities, and protect their smart banknotes with both NFC and physical measures.
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May 09, 2018, 01:11:02 PM
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I don't understand why people are so hyped about these banknotes. I would rather use a mobile wallet on my Android phone rather than carry such banknote with me all the time. I think that we should go straight to digital payments and ditch the old method of using coins and bills. What's difficult in scanning a QR code? NFC Bitcoin payments are just a matter of time. Creating banknotes is a waste of resources and most importantly - money.

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May 09, 2018, 01:33:54 PM
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Its just a clever way of easy usage hardware walled.

Get used to it.
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May 09, 2018, 01:48:57 PM
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I really don’t see the legal binding of this currency whatsoever and we shouldn’t encourage the physical denomination of bitcoins to say the least because when it is stolen it’s stolen like any other currency and this will lead to centralization as well.
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May 11, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
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I really don’t see the legal binding of this currency whatsoever and we shouldn’t encourage the physical denomination of bitcoins to say the least because when it is stolen it’s stolen like any other currency and this will lead to centralization as well.
It's the inability to steal that requires and leads to ultimate centralization.
I don't understand why people are so hyped about these banknotes. I would rather use a mobile wallet on my Android phone rather than carry such banknote with me all the time.
That's the whole point — the notes are for all the other people, billions of them, who'd like to get into crypto, but can't since setting up and maintaining a wallet is not easy or safe for them, and buying bitcoin is even harder.
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May 11, 2018, 02:30:16 PM
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I don't understand why people are so hyped about these banknotes. I would rather use a mobile wallet on my Android phone rather than carry such banknote with me all the time. I think that we should go straight to digital payments and ditch the old method of using coins and bills. What's difficult in scanning a QR code? NFC Bitcoin payments are just a matter of time. Creating banknotes is a waste of resources and most importantly - money.

It's just a novelty item that will probably fade away after a while. People are just hyped because it's something new Tongue
I also don't really see anything ground breaking here, they're just releasing small paper wallets in essence.

That said, I'd probably buy one, just as a collectors item, if I can get my hands on one of them.

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May 11, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
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It's a good step in integrating bitcoin in the society, but it may take sime time before the public can really enjoy the convenience of cryptocurrency. Hope other countries will follow suit.

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May 13, 2018, 06:07:32 AM
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It's a good step in integrating bitcoin in the society, but it may take sime time before the public can really enjoy the convenience of cryptocurrency. Hope other countries will follow suit.
For clarity, Singapore was just convenient to start, there's no backing from the government. We hope to expand Tangem to many countries as we solve cross–border crypto–fiat logistics, which is not yet trivial.

It's just a novelty item that will probably fade away after a while. People are just hyped because it's something new Tongue
I also don't really see anything ground breaking here, they're just releasing small paper wallets in essence.
Paper wallets cannot be circulated reliably. Opendime comes close to circulation, but is too complicated to use and not secure enough (in our opinion) for mass adoption. Tangem Notes, we claim, are the first physical instruments ready for billion–scale everyday use by everyone who knows how to use paper cash.

That said, I'd probably buy one, just as a collectors item, if I can get my hands on one of them.
You can request a free sample (we ship selectively) or order a Pioneer Kit from our homepage at https://tangem.com
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May 13, 2018, 06:33:46 AM
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Simplicity with security is going to be key for 100% adoption. Finance is complicated enough for a majority of people. Coupling it with computers has always been the hurdle we see for mass adoption. This physical, secure, tangible asset would make it so every average Joe could keep Bitcoin under his mattress."
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May 15, 2018, 08:44:13 PM
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It's a really big news I'd like to see more countries accept it. They have taken it legally. Bank of their country is taking note of this, so now it can be sold and sold there very easily. People can now complete their payment and transaction work. As Singaporeans use it as a note, they add new dimensions to their trade system.
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May 15, 2018, 08:46:58 PM
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We've heard of Tangem, and think that this could be promising tech. It also helps onboard completely new users. As long as it serves its' purpose without abusing trust, it's a good thing to have.
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May 15, 2018, 08:49:49 PM
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I hate banknotes. Technology has improved already with blockchain but somebody trying to make it become old school level. Everybody has mobile phones. Use it!!!
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May 15, 2018, 08:57:50 PM
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Sounds interesting. When i will visit Singapore i must try to collect a banknote of bitcoin, as it's my hobby to collect currencies.
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May 15, 2018, 08:59:32 PM
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dont think of it as a circulartion CASH. think of it as a cascious coin on paper... like more of a bearer bond/hoard concept of paper wallet but more secure than the first gen paper walet

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May 18, 2018, 05:12:51 PM
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A digital asset smart banknote manufacturer has launched bitcoin banknotes at a store in Singapore. Designed to make owning and circulating cryptocurrencies as easy as using paper money, they are currently available in denominations of 0.01 and 0.05 BTC.

What do you think of these bitcoin smart banknotes? Let us know in the comments section below.

Full articles: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-smart-banknotes/
I don’t know what to say on this news that bitcoin digital notes has been manufactured in Singapore, its like a dream come true because all we want that bitcoin to be declared as a central currency world wide and this is a huge step towards this goal but this will bring some issues also that bitcoin is preferable over all other currencies because its very hard to step it and we believe that one day bitcoin will replace the paper currency and we are making bitcoin itself a paper currency , I don’t think that this thing is justified.
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May 26, 2018, 10:29:29 PM
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Wow! Cool banknotes! They can only be bought in Singapore?
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May 27, 2018, 06:01:11 AM
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Wow! Cool banknotes! They can only be bought in Singapore?

You can order a special Pioneer Kit from tangem.com — it's not cheap though. We're setting up pilot distribution around the world fast as we can.
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June 11, 2018, 05:38:48 AM
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mature thoughts that can combine paper money with digital money to facilitate transactions in the country.

so the question is,
- is the banknote safe from the Bitcoin address and its private key?
- whether when the paper will be outdated / destroyed can still be used Bitcoin it?
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June 11, 2018, 06:11:56 AM
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I think this will create even more confusion, because on the one side Bitcoin people are telling people that Bitcoin is digital money and that the coin in Bitcoin is not a physical coin and now people create physical Bitcoin Banknotes.  Huh

If I was a newbie and I was presented with this Bitcoin banknote, then I would be totally confused. I also doubt if the Singapore government will tolerate people that are printing currency, even if they are just printing the "carrier" of that currency in the form of a Banknote.  Roll Eyes

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June 11, 2018, 06:16:09 AM
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does it have a QR code where users can turn it into a digital bitcoin?

it will be cool if people buying it can scan a qr code of these banknotes so they can sent the coin online and pay to ecommerce accepting btc. if its only paper then this is going to be a ridiculous concept. those who know how to use bitcoin will certainly not buy such.

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