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Question: Petition to disable 'self-moderation'?
disable self-moderated topics - 24 (42.1%)
enable self-moderated topics - 33 (57.9%)
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December 04, 2013, 11:26:35 PM
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It's too easy for OPs to manipulate threads to fit their own agenda when you can self-moderate.

I think disabling is a good idea.
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December 06, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
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What's wrong with the OP having an agenda?

For instance, the agenda might be to disseminate official information about a product or service. Trolls say this is unfair, I want to warp the thread to my OWN agenda... start another frigging thread then, dumbass.

Also the agenda might be to sell your stuff, write a nice description with pictures and some lazy asshole comes in and says, I gots one too, I'll take 0.01 less.. fuck off and make your own sale thread!!!

On other forums, the official moderation tends to look after breeches of politeness and etiquette such as shitting all over a thread you disagree with instead of using reasoned discourse, or crapping classified threads. Here, no such service really, so leaving it to the OP if they desire it is a great idea.


Basically I think anyone complaining just wants every thread to be about THEIR agenda, i.e. selfish sociopathic assholes... and can't stand anyone NOT wanting to talk about it.

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December 06, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
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What's wrong with the OP having an agenda?

For instance, the agenda might be to disseminate official information about a product or service. Trolls say this is unfair, I want to warp the thread to my OWN agenda... start another frigging thread then, dumbass.

It's a double edged sword for sure. The thread starter might have a few trolls who just follow him around causing trouble etc, so in this instance it may be useful.

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December 07, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
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What's wrong with the OP having an agenda?

For instance, the agenda might be to disseminate official information about a product or service. Trolls say this is unfair, I want to warp the thread to my OWN agenda... start another frigging thread then, dumbass.

It's a double edged sword for sure. The thread starter might have a few trolls who just follow him around causing trouble etc, so in this instance it may be useful.

Yep. It also helps to keep some sales threads tidy.
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December 09, 2013, 08:45:02 PM
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Self-moderated is useful in many cases, but I think it should be disabled in certain sections if it isn't already (securities for example). Alternatively, what would work well is having an option to "view hidden posts" on self-moderated threads.

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December 11, 2013, 12:46:48 AM
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I say leave self moderation enabled as it is because this helps people like me be safer on this forum (if someone harasses you,not simply because they disagree with you,that's something else) since the mods don't seem to intervene enough anyway and I have every right to be safe online.


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December 11, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
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I say leave self moderation enabled as it is because this helps people like me be safer on this forum (if someone harasses you,not simply because they disagree with you,that's something else) since the mods don't seem to intervene enough anyway and I have every right to be safe online.



Deleting posts could also have a negative effect if you later needed them to show proof of harassment or slander etc.

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December 11, 2013, 05:14:31 PM
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Add third option to pool "Modify self-moderation" Just add simple button to show post before edit, then all should be fine Wink

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December 12, 2013, 07:42:28 PM
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interesting topic I'd say just post threads warning people of self moderated threads.  This thread opened my eyes for example so I see it as a useful tool for others.  That does suck that you can't warn others in the thread.

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December 13, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
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I try to stay away from self-moderated topics because it chaps my goddamn arsehole when people delete my comments for no good reason.
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December 17, 2013, 12:40:13 AM
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I love self moderation, but keep it so that people have to contact a mod if they want to make a self moderation thread.

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December 17, 2013, 12:43:50 AM
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Leave the self-moderation but don't delete the deleted posts completely (make them like the ones from ignored people)

That's actually a great idea. Only defendable use of self-moderation would be to visually stop useless spam. And your idea gets job done. Hide the post with option of un-hide.

Other implementation of moderation could be downvoting, but I doubt this would work in this environment, and even more doubt that someone will be bothered enough to implement that.

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December 17, 2013, 12:45:37 AM
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Leave the self-moderation but don't delete the deleted posts completely (make them like the ones from ignored people)

That's actually a great idea. Only defendable use of self-moderation would be to visually stop useless spam. And your idea gets job done. Hide the post with option of un-hide.

Other implementation of moderation could be downvoting, but I doubt this would work in this environment, and even more doubt that someone will be bothered enough to implement that.

Ya, I dont think that +1, -1 wouldnt work. Otherwise it would just turn into a Q+A system.

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December 17, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
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Self-moderation seems especially bad in the altcoin section. A new coin maker can delete all the criticism of their coin and in the worst possible case delete people warning of a virus in the code during the coin release rush.

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December 17, 2013, 05:54:51 AM
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Self-moderation seems especially bad in the altcoin section. A new coin maker can delete all the criticism of their coin and in the worst possible case delete people warning of a virus in the code during the coin release rush.

There should be some limitation on this. Probably stop websites threads from having self mod unless its for a giveaway and they have to remove spam.

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December 17, 2013, 10:30:57 AM
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Self-moderation seems especially bad in the altcoin section. A new coin maker can delete all the criticism of their coin and in the worst possible case delete people warning of a virus in the code during the coin release rush.

Yeah, it shouldn't be allowed in forums like this for sure. On a whole I'd say self-moderation isn't a good idea and is abused more than not.

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December 17, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
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No, leave it, self-moderation lets me know the people you should never have a debate with in advance!
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December 18, 2013, 12:05:52 AM
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Self-moderation seems especially bad in the altcoin section. A new coin maker can delete all the criticism of their coin and in the worst possible case delete people warning of a virus in the code during the coin release rush.

Yeah, it shouldn't be allowed in forums like this for sure. On a whole I'd say self-moderation isn't a good idea and is abused more than not.

I see it useful in giveaway threads because it helps bots perform better.

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December 19, 2013, 11:55:07 AM
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No, leave it, self-moderation lets me know the people you should never have a debate with in advance!

Ha, yeah, as I mentioned before I usually stay away from them.
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December 20, 2013, 12:28:16 PM
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Leave the self-moderation but don't delete the deleted posts completely (make them like the ones from ignored people)

That's actually a great idea. Only defendable use of self-moderation would be to visually stop useless spam. And your idea gets job done. Hide the post with option of un-hide.

Other implementation of moderation could be downvoting, but I doubt this would work in this environment, and even more doubt that someone will be bothered enough to implement that.

I agree. This is a great idea.

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