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August 15, 2017, 09:18:57 AM
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I suspect they are merely waiting how this whole Bitcoin Cash thing plays out



It's already played out.  They clearly gave it a LOT of thought by suspending withdraws for two days before the fork.  This is an amount of time that was longer than literally every other gambling site or exchange.  The fork happened two weeks ago.  Since then, nearly every other gambling site and exchange has given the bitcoin cash to the people that held the funds at the time of the fork.  There is no reason for Nitrogen to not do the same to it's players.

...although they have over 1.3 million reasons why they might not.

Maybe they are working on implementing the possibility of betting with your Bitcoin Cash balance. This could
for sure take some time. It would be in their interest to let users gamble with their BCC/BCH, because otherwise
everyone would simply withdraw it.

I wouldn´t be so fast in condemning Nitrogen for keeping the Bitcoin Cash. Let´s revisit this in a month  Wink

You are aware that major businesses like Coinbase have still not done the "right thing" according to you as well?
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In a blogpost on Thursday, Coinbase Director of Communications David Farmer said the exchange intends to support the new Bitcoin Cash currency by January 1, 2018 — "assuming no additional risks emerge during that time." 
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Maybe they are working on implementing the possibility of betting with your Bitcoin Cash balance.  

Highly unlikely.  They have always said that they will never use any coin except for bitcoin for betting.

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because otherwise
everyone would simply withdraw it.

Yes, that's the point.  It's the customer's money.  Although most gambling sites have converted the bitcoin cash and added it to player's balances as bitcoin.  That's the simple, effective, and smart way to do it.

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I wouldn´t be so fast in condemning Nitrogen for keeping the Bitcoin Cash. Let´s revisit this in a month  Wink

No.  They are always miles behind the curve and are actively ignoring questions.  That's a very bad sign.  

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You are aware that major businesses like Coinbase have still not done the "right thing" according to you as well?

Once again, you are incorrect.  They initially did the scumbag thing (like Nitrogen is doing now) but quickly caved to public pressure.

https://blog.coinbase.com/update-on-bitcoin-cash-8a67a7e8dbdf

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    Both bitcoin and bitcoin cash remain safely stored on Coinbase.
    Customers with balances of bitcoin at the time of the fork now have an equal quantity of bitcoin cash stored by Coinbase.
    We operate by the general principle that our customers should benefit to the greatest extent possible from hard forks or other unexpected events.


They have credited customer's bitcoin cash to their accounts, they just can't withdraw/exchange it yet.  This is obviously very bad but it's still way better than Nitrogen who are saying

"..............."

Also note that Coinbase allowed customers to withdraw funds up until 14 hours before the fork happened.  Nitrogen ceased withdraws over two days before the fork happened.  Earlier than literally anyone else in any business dealing with bitcoin.

So let's put our thinking caps on here.  Let's try to not be white knights and only look at the facts.  We have a company that stopped withdraws days before anyone else did.  The same company is one of the only companies who are not giving the bitcoin cash to the people who own the funds that generated it and are actively ignoring questions about the subject and buying it under old promos.  That's bad.

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...
... Although most gambling sites have converted the bitcoin cash and added it to player's balances as bitcoin.  That's the simple, effective, and smart way to do it.


This would be indeed a very effective solution (I admit that I didn´t consider this option at all)!

Regarding the unability to withdraw funds before the chainsplit:
Nitrogensports made a blogpost that informed players of the exact schedule when withdrawals will be stopped and when
the service will be resumed (https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/note-to-our-players-concerning-the-bitcoin-network/).

I concede that other sites have handled the whole chainsplit better, but I don´t rule out the possibility yet,
that Nitrogensports will resolve this in a matter that is satisfactory for all involved parties.

I admit that you are right with your posts concerning the ongoing issues at Nitrogen Poker, though.
Sadsong and you made dozens of posts and the situation hasn´t really improved.
It was telling that the Wednesday freeroll had 600/600 players, when the amount of legitimate
poker players at Nitrogensports is way smaller than that.

Regarding the Bitcoin Cash situation, I´m still optimistic that Nitrogensports will provide users
with the ability to either gamble, exchange or withdraw their BCC/BCH (or the respective value in BTC).


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Maybe they are working on implementing the possibility of betting with your Bitcoin Cash balance.  

Highly unlikely.  They have always said that they will never use any coin except for bitcoin for betting.

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because otherwise
everyone would simply withdraw it.

Yes, that's the point.  It's the customer's money.  Although most gambling sites have converted the bitcoin cash and added it to player's balances as bitcoin.  That's the simple, effective, and smart way to do it.

Quote

I wouldn´t be so fast in condemning Nitrogen for keeping the Bitcoin Cash. Let´s revisit this in a month  Wink

No.  They are always miles behind the curve and are actively ignoring questions.  That's a very bad sign.  

Quote
You are aware that major businesses like Coinbase have still not done the "right thing" according to you as well?

Once again, you are incorrect.  They initially did the scumbag thing (like Nitrogen is doing now) but quickly caved to public pressure.

https://blog.coinbase.com/update-on-bitcoin-cash-8a67a7e8dbdf

Quote

    Both bitcoin and bitcoin cash remain safely stored on Coinbase.
    Customers with balances of bitcoin at the time of the fork now have an equal quantity of bitcoin cash stored by Coinbase.
    We operate by the general principle that our customers should benefit to the greatest extent possible from hard forks or other unexpected events.


They have credited customer's bitcoin cash to their accounts, they just can't withdraw/exchange it yet.  This is obviously very bad but it's still way better than Nitrogen who are saying

"..............."

Also note that Coinbase allowed customers to withdraw funds up until 14 hours before the fork happened.  Nitrogen ceased withdraws over two days before the fork happened.  Earlier than literally anyone else in any business dealing with bitcoin.

So let's put our thinking caps on here.  Let's try to not be white knights and only look at the facts.  We have a company that stopped withdraws days before anyone else did.  The same company is one of the only companies who are not giving the bitcoin cash to the people who own the funds that generated it and are actively ignoring questions about the subject and buying it under old promos.  That's bad.

Finally, someone gets it.  Thank you for speaking the truth in volumes!


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... Although most gambling sites have converted the bitcoin cash and added it to player's balances as bitcoin.  That's the simple, effective, and smart way to do it.


This would be indeed a very effective solution (I admit that I didn´t consider this option at all)!

Regarding the unability to withdraw funds before the chainsplit:
Nitrogensports made a blogpost that informed players of the exact schedule when withdrawals will be stopped and when
the service will be resumed (https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/note-to-our-players-concerning-the-bitcoin-network/).

I concede that other sites have handled the whole chainsplit better, but I don´t rule out the possibility yet,
that Nitrogensports will resolve this in a matter that is satisfactory for all involved parties.

I admit that you are right with your posts concerning the ongoing issues at Nitrogen Poker, though.
Sadsong and you made dozens of posts and the situation hasn´t really improved.
It was telling that the Wednesday freeroll had 600/600 players, when the amount of legitimate
poker players at Nitrogensports is way smaller than that.

Regarding the Bitcoin Cash situation, I´m still optimistic that Nitrogensports will provide users
with the ability to either gamble, exchange or withdraw their BCC/BCH (or the respective value in BTC).




Say that nitrogen does give out the BCC(I don't believe they will but let's go with it), with the split having happened two weeks ago, how would they calculate what to pay out? Would they have to go back to August first an see what everyone's balance was at that time? What would happen if, at the time they pick you had an open wager? Would they count that in the balance?
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August 16, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
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Say that nitrogen does give out the BCC(I don't believe they will but let's go with it), with the split having happened two weeks ago, how would they calculate what to pay out? Would they have to go back to August first an see what everyone's balance was at that time? What would happen if, at the time they pick you had an open wager? Would they count that in the balance?
Ryan made a snapshot of players' balances on bustabit before the fork and NS had the ability to do the same. As for open wagers, one could consider the BCC void given that the bet was a voluntary decision and the players knew that a fork was coming. I think it's pretty clear-cut.

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Say that nitrogen does give out the BCC(I don't believe they will but let's go with it), with the split having happened two weeks ago, how would they calculate what to pay out? Would they have to go back to August first an see what everyone's balance was at that time? What would happen if, at the time they pick you had an open wager? Would they count that in the balance?
Ryan made a snapshot of players' balances on bustabit before the fork and NS had the ability to do the same. As for open wagers, one could consider the BCC void given that the bet was a voluntary decision and the players knew that a fork was coming. I think it's pretty clear-cut.
But it nitrogen didn't create that snapshot, then they have nothing to go off of?
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But it nitrogen didn't create that snapshot, then they have nothing to go off of?
Well if that is true then there was no intention to pay the BCH in the first place. They should have done so if they wanted to compensate users with the respective amounts but it's unclear whether they did so or not. After all, it's quite easy to say that you're simply not returning the BCH and keeping however much is within user accounts [who either don't care or were trapped by withdrawal locks] for yourself.

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Hi all,

We know there have been questions regarding what Nitrogen plans to do about Bitcoin Cash. We have just completed a statement on how we plan to proceed.

https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/nitrogen-and-bitcoin-cash/

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To our current and future players,

Many of you are aware that the Bitcoin network forked on August 1st, 2017. As a result, a new coin was created which became known as ‘Bitcoin Cash’, or BCH for short. To prepare for the fork, Nitrogen Sports temporarily paused all withdrawals and deposits for a time before and after the fork.

Since August 1st, some players have asked specific questions regarding Nitrogen’s plans for BCH. This statement is meant to help clarify where Nitrogen stands on the issue and what our players can expect in the months ahead.

First, Nitrogen Sports does not immediately intend to support Bitcoin Cash. The decision was made after careful consideration about the environment in which the fork happened, and the less-than clear path to Bitcoin-scale adoption that BCH faces in the months ahead. Our position on BCH also means that Nitrogen will not immediately optimize, transfer or benefit from any BCH that became theoretically available to account balances at the time of the fork.

That being said, Nitrogen took the initiative to log a static record of each and every account balance after deposits and withdraws were paused on August 1st. This information is important in the event that Nitrogen integrates BCH. We want our players to know that when Nitrogen decides to integrate BCH, balances at the time of the fork will be honoured in full. We are currently evaluating the timeline for integration.

We are able to stand by our statement because of the measures we took before and during the fork to inform and protect our players.

Before the fork, we provided sufficient notice that withdrawals would be paused. This should have given each player the appropriate time to move their funds off-platform and into whichever storage solution they deemed appropriate. And as mentioned, during the fork, Nitrogen logged a static record of all balances, taking extra care to plan for any eventuality.

Forks happen from time-to-time on the Bitcoin network. Nitrogen’s specific concern will always focus on account security first, before hype and speculation surrounding newly introduced features or ‘alt-coins’. We feel this is the best way to protect our players’ best interests.

Thank you for your patience regarding this matter.

Nitrogen Sports.


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NitrogenSports, Can you please update your footer? it has been irritating me since I reported it in March and it's still wrong (after around 5 messages and months)... if you aren't out of business please change it

Here's how it is now: 2012 - 2016 © Nitrogen Sports.
Change it to : 2012 - 2017 © Nitrogen Sports.

Its not the only aspect they have let slide in that field. There is a dice promotion that they still advertise that is not active and has been that way for a long time.

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NitrogenSports, Can you please update your footer? it has been irritating me since I reported it in March and it's still wrong (after around 5 messages and months)... if you aren't out of business please change it

Here's how it is now: 2012 - 2016 © Nitrogen Sports.
Change it to : 2012 - 2017 © Nitrogen Sports.

Its not the only aspect they have let slide in that field. There is a dice promotion that they still advertise that is not active and has been that way for a long time.
Which dice promotion? Is it the one where you could win a free bet if you're near the free bet? Did you already reached it before and never got the free bet?

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NitrogenSports, Can you please update your footer? it has been irritating me since I reported it in March and it's still wrong (after around 5 messages and months)... if you aren't out of business please change it

Here's how it is now: 2012 - 2016 © Nitrogen Sports.
Change it to : 2012 - 2017 © Nitrogen Sports.

Its not the only aspect they have let slide in that field. There is a dice promotion that they still advertise that is not active and has been that way for a long time.

Hey Sadsong, could you be more specific which Dice Promo you are referring to? Thanks,

-Jason


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NitrogenSports, Can you please update your footer? it has been irritating me since I reported it in March and it's still wrong (after around 5 messages and months)... if you aren't out of business please change it

Here's how it is now: 2012 - 2016 © Nitrogen Sports.
Change it to : 2012 - 2017 © Nitrogen Sports.

Its not the only aspect they have let slide in that field. There is a dice promotion that they still advertise that is not active and has been that way for a long time.
Yeah be specific because here in nitrogen i am one of the active dice player and i love to play in this site which i could entertain and earn some satoshi when i got lucky. Mention it what dice promotion you are saying.


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August 18, 2017, 01:04:18 AM
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are you sure have fixed the 2FA feature in your system? because i still get an error saying that i can not use the 2FA , it has been a long time ago i think since i am trying to secure my account and to add 2FA into my account and it is always failed , did you noticed about that?

i have sent an email about thiss too by the way few weeks ago, but i will try to send another one when i still can not figure out why the error appear.

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August 18, 2017, 01:15:03 AM
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are you sure have fixed the 2FA feature in your system? because i still get an error saying that i can not use the 2FA , it has been a long time ago i think since i am trying to secure my account and to add 2FA into my account and it is always failed , did you noticed about that?

i have sent an email about thiss too by the way few weeks ago, but i will try to send another one when i still can not figure out why the error appear.

Hey EdenHazard,

Make sure you include screenshots of the error you're referring to when you email support. Thank you,

-Jason


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I do appriciate you brining more e-sport categories, but there is still a problem with some categories missing, and the only way to access them is to catch the lines in "coming soon" category, which is extremely  inconvenient at times.

Example would be the Starcraft 2 GSL - no category, but you can see the lines @ "coming soon"
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