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May 31, 2015, 12:27:09 PM
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Tptb, I agree with much of what you are saying in regards to centralisation, control etc. this may be an interesting read for you as it solves many of the issues prevelant in bitcoin

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7wAe2jt1MMzYVJhUUFnMHQxZ1U/view?pli=1

I would like to address PoS and variants such as this PoI, but in doing so I would reveal too much possibly giving away my insight and destroying my future anonymity.

Thus I will withhold my response for now. There is fundamental distinction between all existing crypto (PoS, PoW, PoI...at least the ones I am aware of) and my insight. The only hint I will feedback for now is that all existing consensus algorithms that I am aware of (except for perhaps Skycoin's yet it appears to be vulnerable to Sybil attack) suffer from aliasing error.

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May 31, 2015, 12:54:25 PM
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Tptb, I agree with much of what you are saying in regards to centralisation, control etc. this may be an interesting read for you as it solves many of the issues prevelant in bitcoin

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7wAe2jt1MMzYVJhUUFnMHQxZ1U/view?pli=1

I would like to address PoS and variants such as this PoI, but in doing so I would reveal too much possibly giving away my insight and destroying my future anonymity.

Thus I will withhold my response for now. There is fundamental distinction between all existing crypto (PoS, PoW, PoI...at least the ones I am aware of) and my insight. The only hint I will feedback for now is that all existing consensus algorithms that I am aware of (except for perhaps Skycoin's yet it appears to be vulnerable to Sybil attack) suffer from aliasing error.

how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

could you elaborate on "aliasing error"? and what it is that causes all consensus mechanisms so far to suffer from it, in particular PoI if you have read up on it?

imo, PoI is much more than just a mere variant of PoS. A variant of pos may have a different staking schedule or start off as PoS or be inflationary or not. PoI, though it has an element of PoS in the calculation of importance, is MUCH different to PoS and far more advanced. to me, pos was the middle step on the stair case.

 
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May 31, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
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how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

By making it trivial to conclude which future altcoin was actually my design.

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May 31, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
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how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

By making it trivial to conclude which future altcoin was actually my design.

thats sounds like a "get out" answer to me.

 
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May 31, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
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how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

By making it trivial to conclude which future altcoin was actually my design.

thats sounds like a "get out" answer to me.

I am not trying to tell you to get out if that is what you mean. Feel free to write anything you want. I am not a moderator.

I am not trying to escape from addressing it. I actually had to kick myself a few times to stop myself from addressing your post with full details. But this time, I had to hold my tongue.

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May 31, 2015, 02:16:34 PM
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how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

By making it trivial to conclude which future altcoin was actually my design.

thats sounds like a "get out" answer to me.

I am not trying to tell you to get out if that is what you mean. Feel free to write anything you want. I am not a moderator.

I am not trying to escape from addressing it. I actually had to kick myself a few times to stop myself from addressing your post with full details. But this time, I had to hold my tongue.

i didnt mean "get out of this thread". more like "get out of having to answer this" Cheesy

no worries. have you any links to information about this "aliasing error"? first iv heard of it afaik.

 
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May 31, 2015, 02:28:23 PM
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Dont you think there's something off, as in your brain,  in you continually berating me about thousands of years of sheeples being manipulated, no chance that Bitcoin can change anything, yet you coming in here and telling us that for $10000 you will let us in on your altcoin that WILL change everything?

When debate on the merits has been conceded, the loser often resorts to character assassination.

Bitcoin will surely change some things, and I assert not all for the better. I never claimed Bitcoin was a /dev/null event and in fact argued that it is a monumental event.

I doubt anything I or others might attempt would change everything. Experiments are experiments. And I have no delusion about changing everything. I might hope to make some positive contribution if after more thought it is concluded that moving forward is viable and wise.

I support Bitcoin because for every 100 masses we introduce to crypto-currency, maybe 1 will awaken and be an important ally. I have repeatedly said I support spreading Bitcoin because it adds to the capital base (remember capital is not money, but the productive capacity).

I view Bitcoin as the scattershot coin (assuming iCe et al lose[1]). I entertain the hope and ideas about potential anonymity and decentralized focused altcoin(s) that serve vertical (hopefully horizontal growth) markets.

In short, "you can't do just one thing" and this applies to anything TPTB create as well. There is always a reactive force and seepage.

[1] I have entertained the thought that Coinbase, Paypal, etc might prefer a 1MB limit because it would push transactions to offchain. But I doubt that is their overriding calculus.


Edit: the many readers I and others have been able to touch (including our dialogue here) is one of the seepage effects Bitcoin is causing. I do not assert that Bitcoin has no positive effects. I've been derogatory on the overriding effect of Bitcoin on the masses. You are correct to call me out and get me to clarify this point.

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I guess it is pretty cool that one can build something by just giving ideas away.
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: We share similar M.S. symptoms; I mostly cured mine...
From:    myself
Date:    Sun, May 31, 2015 12:31 pm
To:      betweentwowheels@gmail.com
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRQx5GDrFeA

Hello I was having a flareup today and was having the itchy scalp and even
these very tender spots which feel almost like pimples under the scalp.

My flareups these days are very tolerable, mild, and I can work through
them, unlike the past 2 - 3 years where each flareup would put me into
severe Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) that would make it impossible for me
to do productive activities.

I have all the symptoms you describe in your video, except I am not in
wheelchair. In fact, I am still athletic in spite of the symptoms. I am
male.

However, I rarely get the symptoms and when I do they are very mild.

Because around April 1, I began to take 50,000 IU of vitamin d3 per day
along with 2.5 liters of water to keep my kidneys flushed and no calcium
nor dairy. I also am taking "B Healthy" coenzymated B complex with
prebiotics, enzymes, and probiotics.

This has reversed my M.S. was an EDSS of roughly 3.5 - 5, to less than 3.
This has been fairly consistent for the entire month of May.

It was a drastic and amazing "cure".

There is Brazalian neurologist (graduated and interned in the USA) who
invented this protocol and claims to have cured 90% of 2500+ patients over
the past 15 years.

Apparently up to 90% of the immune system resides in the gut. Recently a
man was cured of M.S. by receiving fecal transplants in the UK to
replenish his good bacteria.

I believe I destroyed my good bacteria with antibiotics which lead to my
M.S. going bezerk after May 2012.

Start your research here:

http://www.vitamindwiki.com/Multiple+Sclerosis

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Some what off topic except sharing this is an example of the Knowledge Age in action and because some of you are suffering similar health issues and lastly because some readers want to know about my health progress.

I had a flare-up or relapse the past 48 hours or so wherein inflammation increased all over my body which manifests in the various neuropathy symptoms such as swollen feet, itchiness,  numbness or pain from knee down, and in the back of the skull the effects were more acute with itchiness and nodules at and under the skin which are tender or painful to the touch (someone looked at one and didn't see anything but could feel it under the scalp and another one she said she could see blood red colored pimple or scab).

The flare-up was controlled well with high dose vitamin D3 and the B Healthy coenzymated B complex with pre&probiotics with enzymes. Much milder than in the past and the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (aka CFS) was mostly avoided and I was able to work through it.

I also note that recently an individual was cured of Multiple Sclerosis by receiving a fecal transplant.

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Eighty percent of the human immune system resides in the gastrointestinal tract...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-multiple-sclerosis-begin-in-the-gut/

Here's the 43 year old patient cured with MS via fecal transplants,
http://thepowerofpoop.com/carloss-story/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR33CSPNcqk
In the youtube clip his neurologist Perlmutter provides this summary in the
description section -
Published on Feb 16, 2015Carlos, forty-three, came to see me in June 2014. He needed
a cane to stand and had episodes of feeling as if his legs wouldn’t work and that he
could lose his balance easily. When I asked him about his medical history, he told
me about one morning back in 1998 when he woke up feeling “drunk and dizzy.” When we
went to see a neurologist, an MRI scan of his brain was performed, but the results
came back as normal. Carlos remained unsteady for the next two weeks and then began
to feel better. Two weeks after that, while exercising he felt as if ants were
crawling down his back. His vision blurred and, hoping to find another opinion about
his symptoms, he went to see a naturopath. That’s when he began taking various
nutritional supplements and indeed he felt a little better thereafter.

Three years later he had the sudden onset of “numbness in both legs from the waist
down.” Again he was given a new round of nutritional supplements and after three
more months, he felt somewhat improved. Two years later he had another episode and
this similarly resolved itself with more supplements. In 2010, however, he began
noticing a progressive decline in his balance and, despite various nutritional
supplements, his deterioration continued—rapidly. By 2014, Carlos went through more
tests with a neurologist, including another MRI scan of his brain. And this time,
his results revealed aggressive abnormalities, especially in the deep white matter
of his brain seen in both hemispheres and even in the brainstem. These findings, in
addition to abnormalities noted in an MRI of his cervical spine, a lumbar puncture,
and electrical testing results, all pointed to a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis.

I explained to Carlos that we now understand the role of gut bacteria in modulating
the immune system, and that recent animal research clearly had identified changes in
gut bacteria as possibly playing an important role in this disease. I then offered a
plan of action, telling him that I wanted to start a program of probiotic enemas. He
agreed without hesitation, administering probiotic-filled enemas two to three times
each week. Two weeks later, I received a phone call from him. He indicated that he
was walking more comfortably and had now gone for days without the use of a cane!
One month later we spoke on the phone again. He was continuing his probiotic enemas
three times weekly and felt that he had “stabilized.”

At that point I discussed with him the idea of rebuilding a healthy gut population
through a revolutionary new procedure called fecal microbial transplantation, or
FMT, and he agreed to do so (it’s currently not available in the U.S. for treating
MS). He chose a clinic in England where the procedure is routinely performed on an
array of immune and inflammatory problems. Before he left, I asked Carlos to
carefully chronicle his experience in a journal and report back to me.

One month after Carlos returned from England we again spoke on the phone. He
reported that after his second treatment with fecal transplantation (he received a
total of 10) he noted that his walking was dramatically improved and that it
remained that way. He told me, “I am walking so well that other people don’t know
there is anything wrong.”

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In the Mercola link below there's an interesting anecdotal story of curing MS with
fecal transplants to restore the gut biome.  
BTW, I may have already told you I make my own fermented veggies, primarily for the
menaquinone (MK7), although, the improved gut flora aspect is also compelling.  
Also note, a few months ago I read a study that conclusively demonstrated ingestion
of frozen fecal-based pellets is as efficient as the much more cumbersome fecal
transplantation procedure (typically performed in an O.R. setting with anesthesia).

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/05/17/gut-bacteria-brain-health.aspx
"I have a case history in Brain Maker of a young man with MS who couldn't walk
without two canes and who underwent a series of fecal transplantations in Europe,
and came back and walks without any assistance whatsoever. His videotape is linked
to the book and is on our site. I use the video of this man walking when I do
lectures to physicians. They look at this with their jaws hanging, because again,
for you and me, this was never even a consideration in medical school..."

As climbed down the rabbit hole in the links below and related conversations I've had in private with a researcher, the cortisol and inflammation connection stands out. Also the methylation cycle:

http://phoenixrising.me/research-2/glutathione-depletionmethylation-blockades-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/glutathione-depletion-methylation-cycle-block-a-hypothesis-for-the-pathogenesis-of-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-by-richard-a-van-konynenbury-ph-d

http://phoenixrising.me/treating-cfs-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-me/treating-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-mecfs-glutathione-and-the-methylation-cycle

http://www.dramyyasko.com/our-unique-approach/methylation-cycle/

Food Sources That Boost Glutathione Naturally

http://www.immunehealthscience.com/how-to-raise-glutathione.html

http://blog.paleohacks.com/the-best-way-to-restore-your-gut-flora/

http://www.pcrm.org/media/online/sept2014/seven-foods-to-supercharge-your-gut-bacteria

http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/FLORA.htm

http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/09/27/5-steps-to-kill-hidden-bad-bugs-in-your-gut-that-make-you-sick/#openModal

https://www.gutsense.org/gutsense/flora.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/18/mcbride-and-barringer-interview.aspx

http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/the-four-rs-how-to-restore-optimal-gut-health

I believe my recent flare-up may have been more pronounced than most of May because I recently bought pretzels imported from the USA! And I had been working night and day adding extreme stress with no exercise and had lapsed on the raw veggies.

What I will be doing from now:

* 20,000+ IU per day of vitamin D3 (with meals!)
* B Healthy capsule without meal (to minimize conflict of the stomach supplements) 3 - 4 times per day
* L-Glutamine (but only when I exercise as glutamine/ate is counter-indicated in Multiple Sclerosis when the excess can't be consumed)
* Curcumin
* Milk Thistle
* Iodine from Kelp (competes with and displaces/detoxifies the bromide toxins for the same receptors)
* Raw brocolli as well as other raw greens
* more raw or whole foods and hopefully some fermented ones

I normally experience worse flare-ups of inflammation about 24 - 48 hours after exercise. So this indicates to me maybe my glutamine/ate levels get depleted.

In short the good versus bad bacteria war in the stomach and the complex dysfunctional feedback loop in the methylation cycle probably because of it. It appears that once the bad bacteria has taken over it becomes very difficult to starve it and get the good bacteria back into dominance because of dysfunctional feedback loops. And I know from my own case, we crave the crap the bad bacteria wants to feed off of such as the gluten and bromides in processed foods (that cause the toxicity).

The good bacteria in digestive system is part of our holistic endocrine, metabolic, and immune system. The system can't produce the correct chemical reactions and goes into a dysfunctional spiral. This is the Western, modern world. Compare:

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=native+tribe+good+bacteria+flora

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/47066/20150419/gut-bacteria-amazonian-tribe-reveals-new-information-human-microbiome.htm

http://www.wired.com/2014/04/hadza-hunter-gatherer-gut-microbiome/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3044080/The-uncontacted-tribe-help-beat-disease-study-bacteria-living-Amazon-villagers-reveal-modern-world-changed-us.html


Edit: http://multiple-sclerosis-research.blogspot.com/2014/10/now-cats-are-risk-factor-for-ms.html

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Background Several environmental exposures, including infection with Epstein-Barr virus, low levels of vitamin D and smoking are established risk factors for multiple sclerosis (MS). Also, high hygienic standard and infection with parasites have been proposed to influence MS risk.

Kill off those good bacteria and you get MS?

Also I was infected with a particularly virulent and nasty high strain # of HPV in 2006, numerous bouts with parasites (Giardia, amoebas, STDs, etc) over the years I was in the Philippines (1994 forward on and off), numerous years of high dosing with antibiotics, etc..

Couple that with lack of exposure to the sun and overexposure to the indoors and computer monitor.

Also I was living in a horrible, non-airy abode from 2006 - 2012. And I remember right before my M.S. kicked into very noticeable symptoms circa 2010 or 2011, there was a rat that died inside my closet and then it turned to dust. This turns out to be extremely toxic and can cause an anthrax or hantavirus infection. I got very ill from the fumes of that decaying mouse.

I had noted many signs of interaction of my M.S. with my gut including a correlation between flare-ups and gut pain; a purplish, yellowish, off-tint my skin at the abdomen; bouts of diarrhea, leaky gut; the acute peptic ulcer and H.Pylori that sent my M.S. into hyperdrive and caused to gain 20 lbs in 3 weeks after May 2012, the use of probiotics and high dose Vitamin D3 in September 2012 that seemed to put me a cured-like remission (until I stopped it).

Edit#2: Someone passed this research along to me:

http://multiple-sclerosis-research.blogspot.com/2015/06/flowers-to-rescue.html


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You need to get the "B Healthy" brand vitamins. They contain a "whole food" mix of prebiotics, probiotics, and enzymes in addition to the special forms of co-enzymated B complex vitamins required for the Methylation cycle. Folic acid is toxic for 47% of people. You need the coenzymated form of folate. And you need those gut bacteria.

The high dose vitamin D3 appears to stabilize what the good bacteria would normally provide.

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Also I do not like the leaderless paradigm of Monero. I don't believe that is how innovative design in open source gets done. Open source is superior at refining existing things (e.g. Cryptonote), but it usually sucks at radical innovation. For that, you need a leader. And leaders don't work for free. They work for equity in the creation of their babies.

Here are some of my considerations:

When you have actors out there (i.e. TPTB) that can work more efficiently to influence individuals versus groups, I see not what you term  "the leaderless paradigm" but rather, a distributed leadership that checks/provides redundancy against this sort of vulnerability.  For instance, a common law enforcement tactic is separating suspects and interrogating them alone, as individual power is often more easily influenced versus shared. If Gavin Andressen is perceived as the most trustworthy leader on Bitcoin given the nature of his connection with Satoshi, then logically it'd make most sense to influence him first to influence the group. This is an inherent weakness in pyramid structures.

Time for collaboration/communication is how innovative open source gets done, whether it's between the neural structures in Ur brain or through a fractalized Internet. A flexible development structure leaves room for 'leaders' to contribute their worth while the system does not have to depend upon any one chokepoint so as to cause detriment to the overall effort.

With the possible achievable values in equities of stake in meritorious decentralized projects, the best developers realize that they don't need overbearing ownership in equity for that equity to be worth more than they might efficiently know how to employ in their lifetimes.
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Also I do not like the leaderless paradigm of Monero. I don't believe that is how innovative design in open source gets done. Open source is superior at refining existing things (e.g. Cryptonote), but it usually sucks at radical innovation. For that, you need a leader. And leaders don't work for free. They work for equity in the creation of their babies.

Here are some of my considerations:

When you have actors out there (i.e. TPTB) that can work more efficiently to influence individuals versus groups, I see not what you term  "the leaderless paradigm" but rather, a distributed leadership that checks/provides redundancy against this sort of vulnerability.  For instance, a common law enforcement tactic is separating suspects and interrogating them alone, as individual power is often more easily influenced versus shared. If Gavin Andressen is perceived as the most trustworthy leader on Bitcoin given the nature of his connection with Satoshi, then logically it'd make most sense to influence him first to influence the group. This is an inherent weakness in pyramid structures.

Time for collaboration/communication is how innovative open source gets done, whether it's between the neural structures in Ur brain or through a fractalized Internet. A flexible development structure leaves room for 'leaders' to contribute their worth while the system does not have to depend upon any one chokepoint so as to cause detriment to the overall effort.

With the possible achievable values in equities of stake in meritorious decentralized projects, the best developers realize that they don't need overbearing ownership in equity for that equity to be worth more than they might efficiently know how to employ in their lifetimes.

We are entirely in agreement. We need multiple leaders competing to bring radical innovation. We need all these (some what orthogonal yet sharing through the open source Inverse Commons) efforts to be open sourced. We need projects (especially those efforts which gain considerable traction in the market) to become less dependent on their leaders over time as more people contribute to the project's open source.

My point is that mature open source projects have inertia and they are more difficult to influence in radical means from within. It is more effective and efficient to go compete with them, and those mature projects are more likely to adopt what is already proven in the market by a competing project.

My other point is that once a project has reached the point of being leaderless, it is much less likely to be able to reach the consensus for radical innovation. Thus I think Monero became leaderless far too early in its development cycle. Or at least I mean Monero's basic design is more or less cast in stone already. For me to offer commits to Monero which change (tear out and discard) the PoW and mining to something entirely different, would be a consensus battle that would drag on and on...

I will give you a very small example which is no where near the level of radical changes I would need to make to Monero for my design. Smooth had favored a slight ongoing debasement (aka "inflation" but that is the incorrect conceptualization of inflation!) but he was overruled by the consensus (including rpietila and aminorex and others at the time, even if they may have gained enhanced insight into monetary theory hence).

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Also I do not like the leaderless paradigm of Monero. I don't believe that is how innovative design in open source gets done. Open source is superior at refining existing things (e.g. Cryptonote), but it usually sucks at radical innovation. For that, you need a leader. And leaders don't work for free. They work for equity in the creation of their babies.

Here are some of my considerations:

When you have actors out there (i.e. TPTB) that can work more efficiently to influence individuals versus groups, I see not what you term  "the leaderless paradigm" but rather, a distributed leadership that checks/provides redundancy against this sort of vulnerability.  For instance, a common law enforcement tactic is separating suspects and interrogating them alone, as individual power is often more easily influenced versus shared. If Gavin Andressen is perceived as the most trustworthy leader on Bitcoin given the nature of his connection with Satoshi, then logically it'd make most sense to influence him first to influence the group. This is an inherent weakness in pyramid structures.

Time for collaboration/communication is how innovative open source gets done, whether it's between the neural structures in Ur brain or through a fractalized Internet. A flexible development structure leaves room for 'leaders' to contribute their worth while the system does not have to depend upon any one chokepoint so as to cause detriment to the overall effort.

With the possible achievable values in equities of stake in meritorious decentralized projects, the best developers realize that they don't need overbearing ownership in equity for that equity to be worth more than they might efficiently know how to employ in their lifetimes.

We are entirely in agreement. We need multiple leaders competing to bring radical innovation. We need all these (some what orthogonal yet sharing through the open source Inverse Commons) efforts to be open sourced. We need projects (especially those efforts which gain considerable traction in the market) to become less dependent on their leaders over time as more people contribute to the project's open source.

My point is that mature open source projects have inertia and they are more difficult to influence in radical means from within. It is more effective and efficient to go compete with them, and those mature projects are more likely to adopt what is already proven in the market by a competing project.

My other point is that once a project has reached the point of being leaderless, it is much less likely to be able to reach the consensus for radical innovation. Thus I think Monero became leaderless far too early in its development cycle. Or at least I mean Monero's basic design is more or less cast in stone already. For me to offer commits to Monero which change (tear out and discard) the PoW and mining to something entirely different, would be a consensus battle that would drag on and on...

I will give you a very small example which is no where near the level of radical changes I would need to make to Monero for my design. Smooth had favored a slight ongoing debasement (aka "inflation" but that is the incorrect conceptualization of inflation!) but he was overruled by the consensus (including rpietila and aminorex and others at the time, even if they may have gained enhanced insight into monetary theory hence).

First of all, Monero has ongoing debasement, though asymptotically zero (it is a fixed amount so a vanishing percentage, assuming no lost coins).

Second, if you look at Monero as having taken over something that was already developed, or perhaps a better term would be prototyped (the cryptonote/bytecoin design), then it was already mature in terms of core design, at birth, and the leaderless paradigm is just fine, according to you. That does't mean the design was actually great or will succeed, or that there won't be changes, but that was and is largely the premise of it, as opposed to radical innovation. What radical innovation is in Monero was already there before the current team took over.

I remain largely neutral about whether Bitcoin, Monero, or any future cryptocurrency will actually succeed on a large scale.
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I agree with smooth's statements.

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how could disclosing your point of view on other consensus mechanisms jeopardise your anonymity?

By making it trivial to conclude which future altcoin was actually my design.

thats sounds like a "get out" answer to me.

I am not trying to tell you to get out if that is what you mean. Feel free to write anything you want. I am not a moderator.

I am not trying to escape from addressing it. I actually had to kick myself a few times to stop myself from addressing your post with full details. But this time, I had to hold my tongue.

i didnt mean "get out of this thread". more like "get out of having to answer this" Cheesy

no worries. have you any links to information about this "aliasing error"? first iv heard of it afaik.

The last "I" will say about this.

I am taking a deeper look at Blockstream and side chains today for the first time. I will report back my findings shortly.

P.S. I am only 10 minutes into the linked video and it is particularly poignant so far. I highly recommend it. So far it appears to be making the case for Monero. It admits Tor is weak against the State, which is a concept I was promulgating since 2013 and was initially resisted (afair by Greg and many others). Good to see that my work in the forum in 2013 finally was accepted. I will say as AnonyMint, I was pushing hard for greater in anonymity starting in 2013 with some posts I made in the anoncoin thread.

The anti-"Eclipse" (Sybil attack mitigation) slide at the 11:45 minute mark is a very important point. An inherent weakness in PoW is the simultaneity requirement which makes network topology so critical (think orphan rates, selfish mining attacks, etc) and which is also difficult to anneal because of the self-referential relativity of the paradigm. This is one of the main fundamental flaws I want to address in crypto currency. I had referred to this recently as "anti-aliasing". Ironically where Greg says Satoshi's solution to decentralized consensus achieved something "not quite as strong" as that which he thought he had proved was impossible, the same applies to my solution to centralized consensus which implicitly resists centralization and scales to micropayment volume.

Another interesting point at 21 minutes, that multisig negatively impacts decentralization and scaling. This is another fundamental aspect my solution fixes.

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Regarding Greg's redefinition of Cryptography at the 40+ minute mark, he is on the right track but I fundamentally disagree with his definition because it presumes we could both exist and information could be entirely free, i.e. it is vacuous because it presumes mutually incongruent assumptions. The generative essence is that the entropy of the universe is trending to maximum (i.e. not infinity) according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics (refer to the upthread philosophical discussion about existence and theoretic physics). I would instead define, "Cryptography is the art of structuring information such that hidden entropy doesn't collapse to 0 over known domains in time and computability".

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For everyone suffering malaise (aka autoimmunity), make sure you review my prior post because I added to it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg11512752#msg11512752

I ate the fermented cabbage at authentic Korean dine-in restaurant last night. Also the numerous vegetables they provide. That was so soothing and energizing. I am really onto this "good bacteria" concept now.


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http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/the-food-fight-in-your-guts-why-bacteria-will-change-the-way-you-think-about-calories/

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/316709-gut-flora-and-leaky-gut-after-5-years-i-finally-found-the-root-cause-and-im-clear-using-the-gut-diet/

http://paleoleap.com/you-and-your-gut-flora/

http://darwinian-medicine.com/diet/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi#Nutrition_and_health

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A study conducted by Seoul National University found that chickens infected with the H5N1 virus, also called avian flu, recovered after eating food containing the bacteria found in kimchi. During the 2003 SARS outbreak in Asia many people believed that kimchi could protect against infection and while there was no scientific evidence to support this belief, kimchi sales rose by 40%.[27][8][16] In May 2009 the Korea Food Research Institute, Korea’s state food research organization, said they had conducted a larger study on 200 chickens, which supported the theory that it boosts chickens' immunity to the virus.

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-cabbage-kimchi-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-189390

http://yumuniverse.com/fermented-vegetables-make-your-own-kimchi/

http://www.philstar.com/gardening/546632/watercress

http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2011/11/watercress-namul.html

https://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080116052242AAf8vC9

http://www.kitazawaseed.com/seeds_watercress.html

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Tonghoy.html


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Okay I now realize one of the mistakes I made since going on the high dose vitamin D3 treatment is I introduced more bread, mayonnaise, potatoes, tomatoes, and less vegetables into my diet.

Immediate change I will make is to eliminate or drastically reduce those and add back more vegetables as well as the following for carbohydrates and minerals such as magnesium:

* Green boiled bananas
* Camote (sweet potato)

Also I will make my own mayo without soy, using olive oil and only the yokes of the eggs:

http://www.choosingvoluntarysimplicity.com/make-your-own-soy-free-mayonnaise/

http://brainhealthbook.com/leaky-gut-diet/

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The health of the gut profoundly influences the health of the brain. Studies link gut problems with depression, mood disorders, schizophrenia, Parkinson’s disease, memory loss, and brain lesions. This may come as no surprise if you have found certain foods alter your mood, personality, focus, or concentration.

Gut flora, the several pounds of bacterial organisms we carry in our intestines, affect brain chemistry and imbalances can cause depression and psychiatric disorders. Poor diets, stress, excess sugars and carbs, repeated antibiotic use, and other factors tip the balance of gut flora so that harmful bacteria outweigh the beneficial.

Intestinal permeability, or leaky gut, is a condition in which the walls of the intestine become inflamed and porous, allowing undigested food, bacteria, toxins, and other antigens into the bloodstream. This provokes the immune system and causes inflammation throughout the body. Leaky gut can also cause brain inflammation and has been linked with depression and autoimmunity.

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The importance and many functions of the gut and gut flora

Your body is the host to over 100 trillion bacteria, most of them in your gut and you have way, way more bacteria in your body than human cells. In this sense, we could say that we are more bacteria than human.

The gut is the principal area of your body where exchanges are made between you and the exterior world and where nutrient uptake takes place. Consequently, the gut is also the major area of contact with toxins and pathogens.

Since most diseases start in the gut, the present subject is extremely important to overall health. Our body understands the major role of the gut on our health and concentrates over 70% of our immune system in it.

Our gut bacteria is so intrinsically related to the health of the gut that we cannot talk of gut health without focusing on having a healthy gut flora.

For their part, autoimmune diseases first start with damage done to the tight junctions at the epithelial cell level in the gut, which inevitably leads to a leaky gut, which itself permits foreign proteins to enter the bloodstream. The body then manufactures antibodies against those foreign proteins, but the problem is that some of those proteins often mimic proteins already present in the body, like in the thyroid gland or the pancreas for example. This mimicry, coupled with the newly formed antibodies, makes the body attack its own tissues. In the case of the thyroid, we’re talking about Hashimoto’s thyroiditis or Grave’s disease and in the case of the pancreas it’s type 1 diabetes.

Finally, inflammation that starts in the gut often leads to inflammation elsewhere in the body like the joints or arteries.

You can see that maintaining a healthy gut is of much importance for the prevention and healing of many ailments and for general well-being. In maintaining a healthy gut and immune system, the gut flora has many functions, namely:

* Proper nutrient uptake
* Protection against pathogens, viruses and opportunistic bacteria
* Nutrient creation (e.g.: Biotin, vitamin K2, butyric acid, …)
* Preventing systemic and gut inflammation
* Proper metabolism and weight regulation

Here are some pointers at what leads to a disruption of the gut flora:

* NSAIDs (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs)
* Antibiotics
* Birth control pill
* Food toxins mostly from grains and legumes
* Excess carbohydrate and fructose consumption
* Inflammation from excess total polyunsaturated and omega-6 fat consumption
* Infections
* Chronic stress
* Lack of sleep
* Improper nutrient intake and deficiency in some critical vitamins and minerals
* Weak immune system (often caused by all of the above)

Vitamin D

As discussed before, vitamin D is extremely important for proper calcium metabolism and bone structure, but it’s also very important to keep a strong immune system, to suppress autoimmune problems and to produce special antibacterial peptides that help fight off undesired bacteria, fungus and viruses.

In fact, it has even been shown that a deficiency in vitamin D alone can be the cause of the gut flora problem in the first place.

Magnesium

Magnesium is a mineral that’s important for more than 300 enzymes to work properly and is needed for proper digestion and elimination. A magnesium deficiency causes a slower bowel emptying which leads to malabsorption and constipation, and those are all contributing to gut flora problems.

Magnesium is also very important for proper and restorative sleep, vitamin D function and immune system function, three things that you want on your side when trying to heal the gut and rebuild a good gut flora.

Iodine

Iodine, a bit like magnesium, is another one of those nutrients that are pretty low in most people’s diets mainly because our soils are so poor in it nowadays, but also because a lot of what surrounds us inhibits its absorption. Some examples are chlorinated water and bromine found in fire retardants in household products, carpets and mattresses.

The problem is even worse for people on a Paleo diet who eliminated refined iodized salt from their diet. This is often the only source of iodine in one’s diet nowadays. A simple solution is to use a natural sea salt combined with seaweed flakes, which should be available at most health food stores.

Iodine deficiency is known for being a major cause of hypothyroidism as the hormones produced by the thyroid gland are composed, in major part, of iodine, but it’s also really important for proper immune function. Hypothyroidism causes a poor immune system, constipation and slows wound and tissue healing so any hypothyroidism state should be well taken care of to achieve success in healing gut flora problems and bowel diseases.

Iodine is also a very potent antifungal, antiviral and antibacterial compound and was used extensively both externally on the skin and internally before antibiotics became popular. In this sense iodine can be part of the direct arsenal against undesired gut pathogens.

Glutamine

Glutamine is an amino acid that can be really helpful to heal an inflamed and irritated gut.

Bromelain and turmeric

Bromelain is a natural compound found in pineapples that reduces inflammation and that helps digest protein. Turmeric, a spice used extensively in India, also helps soothe inflammation.
Those two supplements can help soothe inflammation, which should make it easier to absorb nutrients and in turn help heal the gut faster. Bromelain helps absorb nutrients even more because of its protease enzymatic potential. Very fragile and irritated gut barriers can become further irritated by protease enzymes though so go slow and be careful with it.

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The first level to take care of is the nutritional one where you avoid any food that can potentially cause problems. This of course includes any grains, legumes or vegetable oils, but also egg whites, fruits, nightshade vegetables, nuts and seeds for most cases.

Then, care should be taken to obtain proper nutrition. Some of the critical nutrients are vitamin D, vitamin K2, magnesium, vitamin C and iodine. Those also happen to be low on most people’s diets, even people following a Paleo diet. Nutritious whole foods like homemade broth, liver and egg yolks should be consumed regularly.

The next step is to try to disrupt bacterial biofilms present in the gut with multiple strategies including avoiding calcium and iron, taking special enzymes on an empty stomach, chelating the minerals and heavy metals that form the biofilm’s structure and taking natural antifungal, antiviral and antibacterial agents.

Finally, it’s important to rebuild a healthy gut flora with an high dose of beneficial bacteria. The right type of bacteria to take will depend on your specific problem, but usually lactobacillus bacteria is a very good starting point.

http://paleoleap.com/dealing-with-autoimmune-diseases-and-digestive-problems/

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Autoimmune diseases and digestive related problems (Crohn’s disease, Celiac disease, ulcerative colitis, IBD, IBS, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, interstitial cystitis, multiple sclerosis) can be very debilitating and can take over your whole life. We think that eating a Paleo diet has the potential to cure a good part of those conditions that are quite new to us.

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It’s funny because I almost discovered the Paleo diet this way. My digestive system became so fragile that the only things I could stomach where meats, fats and well-cooked vegetables. I was then easily able to come to the conclusion that the foods that we digest the most easily are meat, fat and cooked vegetables and that focusing on those foods is a good idea for anybody.

Dealing with leaky gut

Leaky gut is a condition where your intestines become permeable and larger particles are able to enter the bloodstream. Our body then sees that those particles are foreign and attacks them while attacking regular healthy cells at the same time and compromising the immune system. This leaky gut situation also causes digestive and intestinal problems. Candida overgrowth, Celiac disease, irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), inflammable bowel disease (IBS), allergies, malabsorption and loads of other autoimmune diseases are all associated with a leaky gut.

I think that dealing with leaky gut is the way to also deal with the other problems that are linked to it. Heal your gut and the rest will follow.

Some of the worst offenders that contribute to the development of a leaky gut in the first place are gluten and grains in general, NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs: Advil, Motrin, ibuprofen), dairy products and plain general inflammation, chronic stress and lack of sleep. Never consume grains, dairy, vegetable oils, legumes, sugar, yeast or NSAIDs when trying to heal your gut.

Also try to limit the amount of fruit you eat. Ideally, you’d want to eat no fruits at all. It feeds Candida and if you have a leaky gut, you automatically have Candida problems. Don’t worry, you don’t really need fruits in your diet and vegetables as your only source of carbs will do just fine. If you want to take things even further, maybe try staying just out of ketosis, which means about 60g of carbs per day or more. You’ll see that it doesn’t take many vegetables to reach that 60g.

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if one's fundamental unit is the full node andis not the user, i think you're doing it wrong

I corrected that for you to stop violating the End-to-End Principle of networks.

i doubt that any cryptocoin can ever be on auto pilot as the crypto evolves as computerization advances.  what is secure today won't be secure tomorrow thus requiring continual updating.

The voters are the nodes, some developers want to keep centralized control over the majority of the nodes, some developers realize this is bad, - maintaining control its either explicit, subconscious, or subverted.

this is why Satoshi talked about a slow progressive "versioning" update with the final features only being enabled after 8-12 mo or so when it's clear thru monitoring that most everyone has updated

i think it's really disingenuous for Greg to say so

if it CAN be done in 1 month, that speaks pretty negatively about decentralization...  They are all marchin in step to the same drummer.

An ideal crypto-coin would not violate Tim Berners-Lee's Principle of Least Power as Bitcoin egregiously does.

It would do the minimum necessary and leave as much autonomy as possible to the nodes. Ideally the nodes could even disagree about the issues you all are squabbling about and the minimum requirement would still be met.

It would be decentralized at any scale. It would scale to any level of transaction volume. It would not require any specific choice of crypto algorithm (nodes would be free to choose).

Anyone guessed my paradigm shift yet?

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Gold failed to bounce in June, thus it looks like we are headed down. BTC likely to follow down.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/31318

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/31344

Safe haven seeking capital is flowing into the short-end of the bond yield curve in Europe. All in preparation for the contagion Big Bang 2015.75, likely Greece.

This is the most fascinating post I've perhaps ever seen from Armstrong. Amazing that his Trading Array model has INDEPENDENTLY picked up on the ECM 2015.75 Big Bang:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/31361

Looks like the timing for the capitulation low in private assets (gold, bitcoin, and now the USA stock market too) will be in October.

Again I reiterate my 80% expectation for < $1050 and < $150 for the final bottom (price independent of timing). I assign 50% odds of a bottom < $850 and <$100. Ideally would be a bottom in the mid-$600s and < $50, as that would clear out all the dumb money.

As in 2008, the private assets will rally hard after the initial margin call selling has caused them to crater. Remember when safe haven panic contagion strikes, people are forced to sell their most liquid assets. I was buying 1000oz silver bars at $9/tr.oz.

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Very pertinent (to Economic Devastation) discussion in the other thread. Suggest clicking on this quoted post to head over there to read more of my posts...

there's a fundamental disconnect with developing new altcoins that Bitcoiners should be able to migrate to or exchange for.  it's called instability or even inflation.

this ties in with Bitcoin's promise of being open source and being programmable money.  if Monero or any other coin is proven to be successful to the point of forcing all Bitcoiner's to switch, then i think crypto money as a concept fails.  why?  it's b/c that process causes so many ppl to lose money in aggregate from the migration process.

You failed to incorporate the fact that larger markets can be obtained with new capabilities.

WYSIWYG (Windows, MacOS, etc) subsumed MSDOS and I went from selling 30,000 copies of physically distributed software in 1980s to distributing a million copies of CoolPage over the internet at the turn of the century.

Larger markets means a larger size of the global wealth pie for crypto.

Bitcoin can't scale to even a minute fraction of the economic activity coming the Knowledge Age. Thus you are highly limiting your slice of future global wealth with your stance.

Bitcoin has given a promise and it needs to deliver on that.  that is what i will support.  innovation and growth to all corners of the Earth for maximum decentralization.

Impossible with Bitcoin. Impossible. Apparently you don't understand well why I can state "impossible" with certainty?

Did you understand that one of the assumptions in Metcalf or Reed's scaling laws is that the Ends of the network must be able to freely interact with each other.

You are all excited about scaling to Visa scale, and I am all excited about scaling to millions of micropayments per second. It isn't just transaction volume rate limits that are the problem with Bitcoin, but also the fact that the Ends are not autonomous thus morass will constrain.

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