JETWIN | SPORTS & CASINO | #1 FOR IN-PLAY BETTING

[BOOKMAKER]

Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal. 

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough

To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue. On the other hand, lots of customers have suffered and lost their money, participating in either ‘too good to be true’ bonus promotions or in such promotions which were blatantly fraudulent.
So far, we are not going to change our Terms and Conditions. We did our best to find the golden mean between protection against bonus abuse and user-friendliness. Unlike most other companies, we provide our clients who participate in the above-mentioned promotion with exhaustive and detailed information on the process of rollover fulfillment. Everything happens in automatic mode, errors excepted. Both sides, the bookmaker and the customer must fulfill all necessary requirements. Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you.

Finally, it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.

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[swainzag]

Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal. 

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough

To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue. On the other hand, lots of customers have suffered and lost their money, participating in either ‘too good to be true’ bonus promotions or in such promotions which were blatantly fraudulent.
So far, we are not going to change our Terms and Conditions. We did our best to find the golden mean between protection against bonus abuse and user-friendliness. Unlike most other companies, we provide our clients who participate in the above-mentioned promotion with exhaustive and detailed information on the process of rollover fulfillment. Everything happens in automatic mode, errors excepted. Both sides, the bookmaker and the customer must fulfill all necessary requirements. Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you.

Finally, it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.

I mis-read the fine print when it said you must rollover your initial deposit AND the bonus amount.  If I would have seen this I would have gone elsewhere, which is my fault.  Just posting on here for others to see.  In your rules you should mention something about not being able to use a common event more than once, whether it is in a parlay or not.  As far as I could tell that is not included in the rules. 

If I bet straight up on Team A at -110

then make a parlay with Team A, Team B and Team C for +410, why shouldn't I be able to credit for both going towards my bonus?

There is also nothing in rules that I have found that says only $75 per bet goes towards your roll over bonus as well.....which apparently is a rule judging by my betting history.

I will keep betting there and work towards my bonus, just sharing my feelings on the bonus as a whole.  I do understand with 100% match that you need to have rules in place or quite simply you just lose money, but you would think there would be a happier medium for the customer. 

What was the average deposit of users that successfully completed the rollover? 

[BOOKMAKER]

We advise to read carefully the corresponding rules in order to avoid any misunderstandings each time we talk about bonus with our clients. Every client is important to us; therefore, we put all efforts to assure a top-quality service. Sometimes bonus Terms and Conditions are too complex to be understood by an ordinary user. We’ll do our best to make them simpler.
As to statistical data mentioned previously as an example, we can specify that the average size of a deposit was $276,20.

[swainzag]

We advise to read carefully the corresponding rules in order to avoid any misunderstandings each time we talk about bonus with our clients. Every client is important to us; therefore, we put all efforts to assure a top-quality service. Sometimes bonus Terms and Conditions are too complex to be understood by an ordinary user. We’ll do our best to make them simpler.
As to statistical data mentioned previously as an example, we can specify that the average size of a deposit was $276,20.

Haha thank you for down playing my intelligence.  Obviously I missed the 2nd page of term and conditions rather than the ones listed on just the promotions page.  I will do my best to fullfill the ridiculous terms and transfer my BTC elsewhere. Thank you for the replies though.

[BOOKMAKER]

                                    Barclays Premier League


                                                       1                    X                 2
      Stoke City vs West Ham Utd     2.35 (+135)     3.15 (+215)    3.30 (+229)

      Aston Villa vs Chelsea FC         6.40 (+540)     4.05 (+305)    1.55 (-181)

[BOOKMAKER]

F1 Australian Grand Prix


29  Head-2-Head Bets & Outright markets


               Enjoy the action!

[BOOKMAKER]

Our unbeatable odds coverage continues to expand: 40+ Ice Hockey markets are implemented and ready to bet on.

Great range of bets, outstanding usability, fair odds – we do our best to give you an exciting betting experience. Thank you for betting with us!

[BOOKMAKER]

Russian locale added

The Russian speaking Customer Service is also available.

[BOOKMAKER]

UEFA Champions League

                                                                  1                    X                 2
      Real Madrid vs FC Schalke 04              1.24 (+-416)     6.80 (+580)    9.60 (+819) +36

      Chelsea FC vs Galatasaray Istanbul      1.40 (-250)       4.70 (+370)    8.00 (+700) +37

[BOOKMAKER]

UEFA Champions League

                                                                       1                    X                 2
      Manchester Utd vs Olympiacos FC              1.45 (-222)     4.40 (+340)    6.60 (+560) +37

      Borussia Dortmund vs Zenit St Petersburg    1.35 (-285)     5.20 (+420)    7.30(+660) +34

[BOOKMAKER]

JETWIN offers unbeatable Pre-match Odds portfolio:

League                Markets available
NBA                           15
NCAA                         14
NHL                           43
EPL                            38

We stand for easy and fun online betting. We offer the widest range of betting options, fast payouts, first-rate customer service, and an exciting user experience.

[Parks56]

Amazing sportsbook! I never seen a bitcoin sportsbook with this many options (asian,handicap,totals,exact results) for all games/sports, great graphics that are as good or better than old bitbook's.
-all major sport matches were graded in less than a minute and small tennis tournament just took half an hour
-the odds were some of the best with a pretty small juice
-deposit and withdrawal were instant
Though I lost my initial bets, I am sure I will be moving there. you made a beautiful thing there

[BOOKMAKER]

                                  Barclays Premier League fixtures

[BOOKMAKER]

                                                                   NBA fixtures

[Gogo ppp]

Swainzag - "Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.

'Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit'. "




Jetwin - "To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue."




There's nothing wrong with striving to run a sportsbook responsibly.

But how are you protecting yourself by insisting that the rollover for a bonus has to be completed withing 90 days?

What if it took 91 days? Or for that matter, 191 days?
How does the sportsbook suffer?

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit.

Do you award the bonus amount into the customer's account at once, but they can't withdraw it?
Why not hold onto the bonus amount in its entirety until the rollover is complete?
And then if the rollover is not completed within 90 days, they forfeit the bonus amount.

Confiscating winnings because someone takes longer than 90 days to roll is something I've never encountered before, and is a questionable practice.

For that matter, I've never seen a sportsbook put a time limit on a rollover before.
I have seen it occasionally with online poker rooms, but there is no confiscation of winnings if the rollover is not completed.

The book shouldn't have any rules that take a shot at the player, and vice versa.
This strikes me as taking a shot at the player, even if it is announced in advance.

[BOOKMAKER]

Swainzag - "Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.

'Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit'. "




Jetwin - "To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue."




There's nothing wrong with striving to run a sportsbook responsibly.

But how are you protecting yourself by insisting that the rollover for a bonus has to be completed withing 90 days?

What if it took 91 days? Or for that matter, 191 days?
How does the sportsbook suffer?

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit.

Do you award the bonus amount into the customer's account at once, but they can't withdraw it?
Why not hold onto the bonus amount in its entirety until the rollover is complete?
And then if the rollover is not completed within 90 days, they forfeit the bonus amount.

Confiscating winnings because someone takes longer than 90 days to roll is something I've never encountered before, and is a questionable practice.

For that matter, I've never seen a sportsbook put a time limit on a rollover before.
I have seen it occasionally with online poker rooms, but there is no confiscation of winnings if the rollover is not completed.

The book shouldn't have any rules that take a shot at the player, and vice versa.
This strikes me as taking a shot at the player, even if it is announced in advance.

Many bookies have restrictions on rollover length. Here are a few examples:

BWIN:
-    Bonus type: Withdrawal restricted. Bonus funds are available to play with, but cannot be withdrawn until the requirements are met.
-   Time to unrestrict bonus: 365 days.
Betsson:
-   The activated bonus must be wagered within 30 days upon requesting withdrawal.
-   Bonus money left on the account after 30 days will be forfeited.
MyBet:
-   Before your winnings can be withdrawn, you must turn over the deposit amount at least once and the bonus amount at least 5 times within 60 days. Stakes can be placed on one or more sports bets with a minimum odd of 2.00.

These restrictions help a bookmaker to understand better the betting pattern of each customer and increase the amount of betting action of each customer.

Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you and it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.

[BOOKMAKER]

                                           Real Madrid - FC Barcelona
               Moneyback if Ronaldo scores at anytime



If Cristiano Ronaldo scores anytime, JETWIN will refund all losing Half Time/Full Time, Correct Score & Total Corners Over/Under
singles on the match in the form of cash. Max Refund mBTC 100.00 per customer. (Match time: 20:00 Sunday, 23rd March 2014)

[apuestascoin]

                                          Real Madrid - FC Barcelona
               Moneyback if Ronaldo scores at anytime



If Cristiano Ronaldo scores anytime, JETWIN will refund all losing Half Time/Full Time, Correct Score & Total Corners Over/Under
singles on the match in the form of cash. Max Refund mBTC 100.00 per customer. (Match time: 20:00 Sunday, 23rd March 2014)

Nice promotion!

[Gogo ppp]

BOOKMAKER - "Many bookies have restrictions on rollover length. Here are a few examples:

BWIN:
-    Bonus type: Withdrawal restricted. Bonus funds are available to play with, but cannot be withdrawn until the requirements are met.
-   Time to unrestrict bonus: 365 days.
Betsson:
-   The activated bonus must be wagered within 30 days upon requesting withdrawal.
-   Bonus money left on the account after 30 days will be forfeited.
MyBet:
-   Before your winnings can be withdrawn, you must turn over the deposit amount at least once and the bonus amount at least 5 times within 60 days. Stakes can be placed on one or more sports bets with a minimum odd of 2.00.

These restrictions help a bookmaker to understand better the betting pattern of each customer and increase the amount of betting action of each customer."


There's a big difference between putting a time restriction on rollover length, and confiscating winnings.

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit."


I don't see any of the examples you've cited doing this.

For what it's worth, sportsbookreview rates the 3 books you cite respectively as B-, C+, and D.

"SBR recommends players choose sportsbooks with a minimum rating of B+"

"A- to A+    Elite, top 1% of all Sportsbooks, Highest safety & quality.

B- to B+   Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.

C- to C+    Average to below average cust. Service with some risk to players funds.

D- to D+    Poor, some risk to players funds. Poor customer service, etc.

F   Outright scam, book on brink of failure."




"11. In order to fulfill promotional rollover requirements a player is to place one or several Multi Bets in the amount that should equal the sum of the bonus received. These bets have to contain at least two events which simultaneously meet the following criteria: they start at the same time; odds of each event are not less than 1,50 (US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2)."

Please tell me that I am misunderstanding this item.

It appears that there has to be at least one parlay bet placed wagering the total bonus amount received?
And the parlay has to have 2 events with the same start time and odds not more expensive than 1.50.

I've never seen such restrictive terms:

10x rollover of deposit plus bonus amount.


Additionally:

" 6. Only wagers that generate a win/loss return will contribute to the promotional rollover requirement.

7. Bets placed on «Outright» markets do not count towards any rollover requirement. Multi Bet which contains selection belonging to the above-mentioned bet type similarly will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.

8. Bets made below (Decimal Odds 1.5; US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2) and void, tie, cancelled will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.

9. All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet, with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75). If the bet is worth more than $75, only $75 will be counted towards the wagering requirement.

10. For wagering purposes only the first bet qualifies in one single event. Example on the match Arsenal vs Chelsea only the first bet qualifies and “following bets” will not count towards the rollover requirements.

11. In order to fulfill promotional rollover requirements a player is to place one or several Multi Bets in the amount that should equal the sum of the bonus received. These bets have to contain at least two events which simultaneously meet the following criteria: they start at the same time; odds of each event are not less than 1,50 (US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2)."

And items 6 thru 11 are not mentioned nor alluded to on your primary Bonus Promotion page, yet these are non-standard rules.


"9. All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet, with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75). If the bet is worth more than $75, only $75 will be counted towards the wagering requirement."

I don't understand what "All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet..." means.




Also - "...with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75)"

mBTC = mili bitcoin = 1 thousandth of a bitcoin = 0.001BTC

So if a deposit is made with a Bitcoin, the maximum amount that will count towards rollover on every bet (regardless of the actual amount bet) is .0075 BTC?

[Gogo ppp]

We advise to read carefully the corresponding rules in order to avoid any misunderstandings each time we talk about bonus with our clients. Every client is important to us; therefore, we put all efforts to assure a top-quality service. Sometimes bonus Terms and Conditions are too complex to be understood by an ordinary user. We’ll do our best to make them simpler.
As to statistical data mentioned previously as an example, we can specify that the average size of a deposit was $276,20.

Haha thank you for down playing my intelligence.  Obviously I missed the 2nd page of term and conditions rather than the ones listed on just the promotions page.  I will do my best to fullfill the ridiculous terms and transfer my BTC elsewhere. Thank you for the replies though.

swainzag - "Obviously I missed the 2nd page of term and conditions rather than the ones listed on just the promotions page."

It's easy to understand swainzag's comment. You have numerous non-traditional non-industry standard rules, yet you don't mention these on the primary page citing the promotion.

Normally when a company posts "See our T & C at this link..." it is because there is a lot of boilerplate language, and people frequently skip reading it for that reason.


swainzag - "I will do my best to fullfill the ridiculous terms and transfer my BTC elsewhere."

Easy to understand this comment as well.