My buddy is getting a divorce. Can the court seize half of his bitcoins?

[cr1776]

easy on the woman bashing.
ps - if she married him for his money, be probably married her for her t&a. risky move; you'll probably get burned

The same goes for cheating guys too - you make a commitment, you keep it.  The statements were specific to this fact pattern.  As far as the money goes, the stats here were that it was around 95-98% that it was the guy paying.  :-)

Anyone who gets married without a prenup is taking a risk that while your spouse claims it is forever, that they'll change their mind and you will end up paying their bills - and supporting their new lover.

[bitkoof]

... I don't bash women, I love women, as long as they know their place.

[bryant.coleman]

Whether the story behind this thread is real or not, it has exposed another advantage for stashing Bitcoins. This is a good idea, which can be used in certain difficult legal situations (not only in the case of divorce).

If executed with proper planning (esp. untraceable transactions), this can prevent the loss of our hard earned money.  

BTW..... I am a big fan of Ayn Rand..... Bitcoins are perfect for the social setting envisioned in Atlas Shrugged. When the court and the government seize our hard earned belongings... there is no reason to work further... We should fight back... this is one of the methods.  

"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter."

Check this also

[niothor]

Coins don't exist. It's just pixels. She can't take pixels from him.
It's like stealing pictures. Same thing.

He can move the coins to another wallet. Leave 10-20 BTC on the wallet he was using before.
 Then he can tell to that bitch : "Here's your half"

OR,

like someone else mentioned. He can say that he got them by gambling.

First , the OP is a troll. Second....

Same with bank accounts.
They are numbers on a piece of paper.
The privatekeys are associated with addresses had hold an amount of BTC , valued at: x.
Divide x by two and problems solved.

Or do you think that the judge is calculating the amount of wood and paint in a picture and not the value at which that painting can be sold on the market?

[TiagoTiago]

Wait, the guy was fucking the ex and his 5-years-old? Did the ex knew about that? 0.0

[Princee]

It's just like DPR. He would get all of his BTC confiscated, but he probably has a brainwallet. He can claim he lost it all on SatoshiDice or say he got it stolen  but we know that's not true and we can't do anything about it. He probably has all his fortune in cold storage. Your friend should do the same!

Tl;dr: Brainwallet > Cold storage > don't talk about BTC. It's that easy.

[hanwong]

I realize the OP is trolling...

But this post brings up a good topic of conversation. Bitcoins are an asset and a source of wealth and will be divided in divorce. I'm sure bitcoins will come up in someones divorce sooner rather than later. I'd love to read that court case.

To paraphrase "Mo' bitcoins mo' problems"

[bryant.coleman]

It's just like DPR. He would get all of his BTC confiscated, but he probably has a brainwallet.

The FBI will make sure that he will get a life without parole (he is accused in 6 murder-for-hire incidents). What is the use with all those BTCs, if you never get a chance to use them? Maybe they'll be lost forever. 

[niothor]

Wait, the guy was fucking the ex and his 5-years-old? Did the ex knew about that? 0.0

Either you're retarded, or, you're a wanna be troll who's living in his mum's basement.

Check the Op thread and post history and you're going to see you're in a troll thread.

[niothor]

It's just like DPR. He would get all of his BTC confiscated, but he probably has a brainwallet. He can claim he lost it all on SatoshiDice or say he got it stolen  but we know that's not true and we can't do anything about it. He probably has all his fortune in cold storage. Your friend should do the same!

Tl;dr: Brainwallet > Cold storage > don't talk about BTC. It's that easy.

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

[bryant.coleman]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

[RodeoX]

Does he have a signed prenuptial agreement? Did he have them before the marriage? If not, I think half of what he is calling "his" coins are his wife's.

[niothor]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

O yeah , the best place for an ex drug dealer,and a so called pioneer of "free speech".

[maz]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

O yeah , the best place for an ex drug dealer,and a so called pioneer of "free speech".

I think he means the guy whos ex is screwing the black guy and the daughter.

[niothor]

So his wife cheat and now he has to give her half of his net worth. And if he don't he can go to jail, and the court can have scrutiny on all of his fucking like.

That's FUCKING SCARRY. America, what have you become?

Fortunately the op was trolling , so c you can rest calm. Nothing of that shit really happened.

[Pente]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

Asylum? Just go to the Philippines and disappear in Manila. Manila is HUGE and packed full of people. I have never been stopped or questioned by a cop in all the years that I have visited. Most people speak some english and their language, tagalog, is easy to learn. Girls are easy to meet, if you are shy, go online and use cherry blossoms or dateinasia.

[niothor]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

O yeah , the best place for an ex drug dealer,and a so called pioneer of "free speech".

I think he means the guy whos ex is screwing the black guy and the daughter.

Yeah , that guy only quoted my response , but my response was to somebody talking about DPR.

[niothor]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

Asylum? Just go to the Philippines and disappear in Manila. Manila is HUGE and packed full of people. I have never been stopped or questioned by a cop in all the years that I have visited. Most people speak some english and their language, tagalog, is easy to learn. Girls are easy to meet, if you are shy, go online and use cherry blossoms or dateinasia.

Again . the original example was DPR. not this ordinary guy.
Secondary , you can walk freely because you don't have 100 millions stashed away.
Wait till your neighborhood finds that out...

[bernard75]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

There are many more countries that dont have an extradition treaty with the US.
He could just travel between them forever on normal VISAs.

[TiagoTiago]

Well , I don't know how that goes but if he denies in court that he has any other bitcoins(valuables) in his possession and after he is released he gets caught using them , well , isn't he going back to court for another round?

Not if he gets asylum in North Korea or Russia (or more realistically in Venezuela or Cuba).

There are many more countries that dont have an extradition treaty with the US.
He could just travel between them forever on normal VISAs.

Didn't they stop a president's plane while it was over another country for suspicion he was smuggling Snowden to the LA?