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December 26, 2012, 12:40:51 PM
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I wonder what kind of pressure is on the table from the ruler; very interesting

straight down from the point of contact, otherwise it would move.

at how many lbs of pressure Tongue

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December 26, 2012, 01:01:26 PM
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the combined weight of hammer ruler and string. The area of contact between ruler and table is small. so the pressure in PSI is high, maybe 100-200 PSI.

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December 26, 2012, 02:00:17 PM
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physics student here, hoping to demystify what's going on in this cool demo:



forces on the ruler are in red, torques on the ruler are in blue.

for simplicity the forces and torques on the hammer are omitted.

the force of tension from the weight of the hammer through the string (Ft) exerted on the ruler is balanced by the normal force up from the table (Fn). normal force is the force exerted, for instance, on your hand when you press on a solid, which prevents you from compressing the material as you would a semi-solid like clay. forces are equal and opposite. no problem here.

however, what's more interesting is the the ruler doesn't rotate; it won't flip off the table. rotational motion is caused by TORQUES, which is a force at a distance from a point of rotation. what's cool about torques is that T = F * r or that a small force at a large distance away from the center of rotation (utilising a large lever arm) exerts the same amount of torque as a large force closer to the point of rotation. think how crowbars work. in this example, the center of rotation or pivot point is the point where the ruler rests on the edge of the table.

for no rotation to occur, torques must also be equal and opposite. the weight of the hammer is providing a large force close to the pivot point, but only provides a small amount of torque. this torque is clockwise from our reference point because the applied force is down. the handle of the hammer is actually causing an upward force at an angle theta with respect to the ruler, which exerts a smaller force at a right angle with the ruler, upward. this smaller force at a longer distance in the opposite direction supplies to equal and opposite torque, so the system remains in equilibrium.

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December 26, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
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merry christmas to all, and to bitcoin's value, goodnight.

i'm targeting $12.50 before a bullish correction to $12.85 and then only down from there...

short term targets: $13.00, $13.10, $12.85, in order

due to recent buying pressure, we may see a small upswing before the plummet, but it will be a bull trap. no higher than $13.75, and then the above targets.

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December 26, 2012, 09:14:17 PM
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merry christmas to all, and to bitcoin's value, goodnight.

i'm targeting $12.50 before a bullish correction to $12.85 and then only down from there...

short term targets: $13.00, $13.10, $12.85, in order

due to recent buying pressure, we may see a small upswing before the plummet, but it will be a bull trap. no higher than $13.75, and then the above targets.

link to previous right predictions please

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December 29, 2012, 01:03:09 AM
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merry christmas to all, and to bitcoin's value, goodnight.

i'm targeting $12.50 before a bullish correction to $12.85 and then only down from there...

short term targets: $13.00, $13.10, $12.85, in order

due to recent buying pressure, we may see a small upswing before the plummet, but it will be a bull trap. no higher than $13.75, and then the above targets.

link to previous right predictions please

above is a validated prediction. breakout but only to $13.67.

$13.00 here we come!

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December 29, 2012, 02:34:48 AM
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think a  "CHAOS!!!!" thread might be better

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December 29, 2012, 04:11:02 AM
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merry christmas to all, and to bitcoin's value, goodnight.

i'm targeting $12.50 before a bullish correction to $12.85 and then only down from there...

short term targets: $13.00, $13.10$13.20, $12.85, in order

due to recent buying pressure, we may see a small upswing before the plummet, but it will be a bull trap. no higher than $13.75, and then the above targets.

due to the strong support forming around $13.20 (approx 4k btc) i have made the bolded amendment in targets as i suspect this is where the resistance will form.

as we just witnessed a dump (L: $13.30) immediately following the bulltrap up to $13.67, we are staying on track. next movement will break through the support at $13.20 and bounce off of $13.00, then following the aforementioned targets.

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the only reason i am bothering with this short-term stuff is i believe the upcoming movements are serious and will precipitate a true mid-term downtrend that will break us out of the price channels we've been in for the last 2 months. if you are also following lucif's thread, he seems to be reading the charts the same way.

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December 29, 2012, 04:13:23 AM
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think a  "CHAOS!!!!" thread might be better

FOR CHAOS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

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December 29, 2012, 04:19:58 AM
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merry christmas to all, and to bitcoin's value, goodnight.

i'm targeting $12.50 before a bullish correction to $12.85 and then only down from there...

short term targets: $13.00, $13.10$13.20, $12.85, in order

due to recent buying pressure, we may see a small upswing before the plummet, but it will be a bull trap. no higher than $13.75, and then the above targets.

due to the strong support forming around $13.20 (approx 4k btc) i have made the bolded amendment in targets as i suspect this is where the resistance will form.

as we just witnessed a dump (L: $13.30) immediately following the bulltrap up to $13.67, we are staying on track. next movement will break through the support at $13.20 and bounce off of $13.00, then following the aforementioned targets.

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the only reason i am bothering with this short-term stuff is i believe the upcoming movements are serious and will precipitate a true mid-term downtrend that will break us out of the price channels we've been in for the last 2 months. if you are also following lucif's thread, he seems to be reading the charts the same way.

Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

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Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

im not sure what you're implying...

are you saying that the predicted downtrend will not bottom out in the mid-term? i'm not sure anyone can say with confidence that we may be looking at a downtrend in the long-term, bitcoin has been historically bullish.

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Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

im not sure what you're implying...

are you saying that the predicted downtrend will not bottom out in the mid-term? i'm not sure anyone can say with confidence that we may be looking at a downtrend in the long-term, bitcoin has been historically bullish.

That does not mean the price can only go up.

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Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

im not sure what you're implying...

are you saying that the predicted downtrend will not bottom out in the mid-term? i'm not sure anyone can say with confidence that we may be looking at a downtrend in the long-term, bitcoin has been historically bullish.

That does not mean the price can only go up.

yes, but what evidence is there for a long-term downtrend? my analysis of the market data shows ambivalence in the long-term, but moderately to extremely overbought in the short- and midterm. i also think the lack of a stable short-selling platform like bitcoinica has been and will continue to be an issue for bears.

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Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

im not sure what you're implying...

are you saying that the predicted downtrend will not bottom out in the mid-term? i'm not sure anyone can say with confidence that we may be looking at a downtrend in the long-term, bitcoin has been historically bullish.

That does not mean the price can only go up.

yes, but what evidence is there for a long-term downtrend? my analysis of the market data shows ambivalence in the long-term, but moderately to extremely overbought in the short- and midterm. i also think the lack of a stable short-selling platform like bitcoinica has been and will continue to be an issue for bears.

If you can read I said MEDIUM TERM not LONG TERM. Keep up ok? Thanks lol

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Be careful not to overpay for your bitcoins in the medium term (few months).

im not sure what you're implying...

are you saying that the predicted downtrend will not bottom out in the mid-term? i'm not sure anyone can say with confidence that we may be looking at a downtrend in the long-term, bitcoin has been historically bullish.

That does not mean the price can only go up.

yes, but what evidence is there for a long-term downtrend? my analysis of the market data shows ambivalence in the long-term, but moderately to extremely overbought in the short- and midterm. i also think the lack of a stable short-selling platform like bitcoinica has been and will continue to be an issue for bears.

If you can read I said MEDIUM TERM not LONG TERM. Keep up ok? Thanks lol


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If you can read I said MEDIUM TERM not LONG TERM. Keep up ok? Thanks lol
i'm keeping up. by the above i assumed you meant that they would REMAIN overpriced THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF the mid-term. naturally meaning that we would still have a ways down to go in the long-term. sorry for the confusion. maybe if you posted actual analytic replies and not just cryptic hints we'd get somewhere.

if you remember, my very first response was a request for clarification.

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it would be natural adjustment as per market requirements
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it would be natural adjustment as per market requirements

your specificity is incredible. pronouns without referents, even. well done.

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Nooo no chaos yet I need my popcorn
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I wonder what kind of pressure is on the table from the ruler; very interesting
Please explain to me the figurative meaning of the word. Unfortunately, I'm doing a lot less reading (interpretation) of the Thread. If you want to know my next steps (in the chaos) - I will continue to move the price up. I want to overcome the strong upward peak (spike) the resistance of 15 than there .. (as will be the right moment) Thank you.

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