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March 04, 2014, 03:21:37 AM
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There will be a window of opportunity to wrest value out of the hands of the entrenched before a new regime finds a way to entrench itself.

I understand what you are saying and have considered that a possibility also but I really do think this time is different.

Without wanting to derail this thread very much more I'll explain why ...  Smiley

Software is just about as close as you will get to the realm of pure ideas made real. Clearly regulators, beholden to entrenched interests or not, cannot regulate free thinking and just as mathematics, philosophy, theoretical physics and other abstract sciences are true free markets software manifestations of these fields are also free to spring forth unhindered, except albeit by the dogma of their own fields. Now with bitcoin, the invention of new monetary products and abstract fields like mathematics have collided, manifest as a software product, ready to function in the physical world on the internet. There really is no future that I can envision where this genie can be put back in the bottle. Whatever regime holds sway will forever know that they are but one bright idea away from obsolesence, regardless of what congressman, or media conglomerate they have on their payroll. Money has now joined the realm of free thinking, the war of ideas is it new home, and battleground.

This for me is the most fundamental shift that bitcoin provides, monetary science has become an applied science field and finds itself plonked down right between computer science and applied mathematics, the internet is its laboratory and programming geniuses skilled in cryptography are its practitioners.

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March 06, 2014, 06:34:51 AM
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Looking forward to it. Good thoughts, good stuff.
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March 06, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
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Complete anonymity! really do not know is good or bad

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March 06, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
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When will zerocoin be launched?
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March 06, 2014, 01:25:50 PM
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When will zerocoin be launched?

Supposedly sometime in May.
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March 07, 2014, 07:24:40 AM
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I hope they stick to the idea of altchain release and dont attempt a totally overbought IPO Ethereum style.. Huh
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March 07, 2014, 07:32:56 AM
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A coin that is designed just to be anonymous is completely pointless.

You can already make yourself anonymous with BTC with physical BTC paper wallets/coins amoung many other ways that really do allow you to be truely anonymous, depending on how you approach it.

No one but scum bags will EVER support a coin designed to be anonymous, the risks of allowing anonymous money through the internet are way too huge.

Infact, I'm sure the Illuminati will support zcoin.

Weren't the Illuminati supposed to be the control seekers? Im confused.. Huh
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March 07, 2014, 07:41:39 AM
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where did you read, that they "walk away" after release? they worked 1,5 years on that, would be a little bit strange if they would do this, its their baby.

Ah, I can't find the quote now, but it was from a video where he answered questions from the public.

Basically he said

"We are cryptographers and do this as a science project. Once the open code is out there, we will walk away from it and observe what the community does with it"

To me it seems that they are more interested in getting publications in scientific journals than actually establishing a new competitive Alt-coin.
I find the project very fascinating, so I hope I am wrong about this.

If they really do shortly after the code is released, (I hope they manage to put a GUI in there before they leave), it will be a messy grab for the lead by different teams to put a working update/fork out there to profit from the first mover advantage/innovation boost=price appreciation of any chain that can successfully make use of the Zerocoin code base. In that case I would bet Anoncoin takes the lead as they will already be familiar with the complicated code mechanics and have their own implementation out there (they just announced Anoncoin/Zerocoin testnet to come online in 3-4 weeks from now.).
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March 07, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
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sigh i just want to know if it is gonna be sha-256 based (i know very very unlikely)...

want to keep my 555gh knc jupiter going on something zerocoin would be fun to do

alas.....it is more likely to be a door stop

but the fun and excitment of all the laptop/gpu/sha-256 units springing back to zombie life...heh...the frantic
search for 333mh block eruptors on the day they w/o premine say at 12 midnite this date....difficulty 0

ie ahem "gentleman start your dies/cores"

it would be do cool (alas as likely as bfl giving me a refund on my monarch card and satoshi being discovered..on the same day (or at least bfl's annoucement of such)....er wait that happened yesterday

(clueless hope springs eternal...bfl giving a refund on my monarch ALL is POSSIBLE!

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March 07, 2014, 10:55:44 PM
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hopefully not sha-256 based, would be unfair  Smiley

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March 08, 2014, 06:55:07 AM
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hopefully not sha-256 based, would be unfair  Smiley

as one with a 555gh Jupiter hell yes it would be unfair..but the PR splash alone you could make with a sha-256
coin with a hook like anon zero coin etc (all they need now is a meme)

would be a hoot

just want to mine something with my toy this summer even if it is a delusional coin hope

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March 08, 2014, 07:58:42 AM
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Cant any of you crypto geniuses parse through those documents and kick up some hints to whether this is going to be SHA2(56) or else?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXU65XsLiFk
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March 08, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
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Cant any of you crypto geniuses parse through those documents and kick up some hints to whether this is going to be SHA2(56) or else?


13 January 2014
Real World Cryptography Workshop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXU65XsLiFk
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=q3rgh5ZY

Rational Zero
http://fc14.ifca.ai/bitcoin/papers/bitcoin14_submission_12.pdf


i really really want it to be sha-256 but not a chance in hell imho (sigh)

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I like this but is dec 1st 2013..i think they are going to go scrypt or scrypt-jane or some such

which means my 555gh asic knc Jupiter just will be multitasked as a doorstop

would have been fun to play with zerocoin anon coin as sha-256 coin....would have been

a heck of a lot of fun from no premine 0 difficulty start your engines 00:00:01 heh

I need a sha-256 coin with a 'hook' of usefulness....zerocoin was probably it

sigh off to look at doors to use doorstop on this summer

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March 10, 2014, 03:34:36 AM
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great work
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March 12, 2014, 01:56:25 AM
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Interested in this thanks Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Well,interest
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March 19, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
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KNC release Scrypt miner info, codename Titan. Good for mining Zerocoin?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan

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March 19, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
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... they could go CPU only, like primecoin...

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March 19, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
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KNC release Scrypt miner info, codename Titan. Good for mining Zerocoin?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan
Shocked 100 MH/S
Wow I would buy that in an instant if I had the money
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