Daneel bounty manager cheating in his own bounty

[tomalours]

Daneel bounty campaign thread was managed by mazzer. However, there's another guy involve in the bounty management who I believe is the community manager for Daneel, his name is Cryptoofox and here you can see him as an Admin in Daneel main group and bounty group



https://t.me/daneel_bounty


After checking the copy of the final spreadsheet I came across many suspicious activities been done by the community manager Cryptoofox.

First case, he participated with his alt and reported with his own account

Example: his report: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2667581.msg29941451#msg29941451
Archival: http://archive.is/FZbqt



When you search with his FB and Twitter name in the spreadsheet, you can see it's registered under a different username (bluhori) with no link to his alt profile.
 
Reference: FB #274  Twitter #42 Telegram #601

Second case, The same username (bluhori) registered for the signature campaign #153 and the profile link takes you to Cryptoofox profile. Okay, here what's wrong with this:

- He's registered under a different name
- He's registered on a different rank:
- In the spreadsheet it says (Senior Member) - where the username (bluhori) doesn't exist and Cryptoofox is a (member rank)

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[cryptoofox]

Wow looks like I am famous now. Let me explain the situation here.

First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Second Why would I cheat for couple of thousand DAN tokens? for few hundred buck?. I have my own investment funds. And I have been investing in many ICOs as a early adopter. Plus check my twitter for god's sake.

Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one. I encouraged him to do it as a stepping stone for the jungle of bounty. He used my BCT account to register and hence the entry highlighted above. This screenshot was taken from the first version of the excel sheet. There were few errors in the sheet which we have rectified. Final sheets reflects the correct amounts and status. You can go to the proof link and see it for your self. The work is being done regardless of BCT account being mine. Hence the token amount is allocated accordingly.

Hope this reply clarifies everything.

cheers
CF

[Vod]

Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one.

Yeah, we hear this "brother/sister/mother/dog" story all the time.  I like the way you tried to say you didn't cheat with your first two reasons, then admitted you cheated with the third.  :/

[yahoo62278]

Personally I believe participating in a bounty campaign you manage is a conflict of interest. You're already being paid to do the work, so there's no reason for you to chase tokens as well and open yourself up to bending rules to make sure you qualify for the bounty pay as well. It's called "double dipping"

[SalmanMJ9]

First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori)  

[Joel_Jantsen]

Personally I believe participating in a bounty campaign you manage is a conflict of interest. You're already being paid to do the work, so there's no reason for you to chase tokens as well and open yourself up to bending rules to make sure you qualify for the bounty pay as well. It's called "double dipping"

Not necessarily. Most of the good bounty managers are paid in ETH/BTC and not the tokens for the bounty. Should they wish to participate in the bounties, they should be applying through the same rules as created for the other participants.For instance, if the campaign manager wishes to write a good blog post for some tokens,he should be allowed to do that provided he should judge his stuff rationally which is not the case here.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

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I tagged this user for dishonestly giving his "brother" (I don't believe that) a spot in the campaign and for the other accusations.  He's clearly not being honest and should never be involved in managing a bounty or in any other high-level position in same.  Looks like he'll do whatever he needs to do to siphon money out of bounties, and it isn't fair to other participants.  Good call on posting this, OP.

Edit: magisterr just deleted his post that I just quoted but snipped.  Not sure why.

[magisterr]

This project (Daneel) together with this bounty manager (not Sylon, I mean cryptobox) scammed  investors and bounty hunters.
Sylon is a honest manager I think. And everyone know him. But they (Daneel team kick out him, and hired new  and started scam people.
Investors - because they dumping price, and bounty, because just stealth their tokens.

Look how they selling tokens

One of their adress
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x09d30d57b096ac4c16371cf124b67a1fb9f419c0

At 26th and 28th of April (when price was highest) a lot of tokens from this adress gone to this adress (just for 1 adress several transactions! So this is not an advisors etc tokens).

https://ethplorer.io/address/0xbb8e6d03f1640b2d89990fdcdd4e328a97007d98

and than to this Exchange adress (Idex)

https://ethplorer.io/address/0xa12431d0b9db640034b0cdfceef9cce161e62be4

After this price started down...

But wtf? Which right they have for selling tokens just after ICO? Every ICO have vesting period for developers tokens (at last half of year or more)

Price was 44 cent before they started selling tokens.. and now... its going to zero, because this "developers" and bounty manager selling tokens.

[cryptoworld9x]

Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one.

Yeah, we hear this "brother/sister/mother/dog" story all the time.  I like the way you tried to say you didn't cheat with your first two reasons, then admitted you cheated with the third.  :/

Have funny to this. That why have so much project using bounty platform for make promoting at this time. I think we can change the trending for make bounty program at 2018.

[sabotag3x]

Hello there fellas,

You can include @mazzer in it as well..

What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign..

Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:






On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:






And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654


So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation.

I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys..


I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either.

Have a good one.

[cryptoofox]

Hello there fellas,

You can include @mazzer in it as well..

What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign..

Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:






On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:






And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654


So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation.

I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys..


I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either.

Have a good one.

Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list.
 

[cryptoofox]

This project (Daneel) together with this bounty manager (not Sylon, I mean cryptobox) scammed  investors and bounty hunters.
Sylon is a honest manager I think. And everyone know him. But they (Daneel team kick out him, and hired new  and started scam people.
Investors - because they dumping price, and bounty, because just stealth their tokens.

Look how they selling tokens

One of their adress
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x09d30d57b096ac4c16371cf124b67a1fb9f419c0

At 26th and 28th of April (when price was highest) a lot of tokens from this adress gone to this adress (just for 1 adress several transactions! So this is not an advisors etc tokens).

https://ethplorer.io/address/0xbb8e6d03f1640b2d89990fdcdd4e328a97007d98

and than to this Exchange adress (Idex)

https://ethplorer.io/address/0xa12431d0b9db640034b0cdfceef9cce161e62be4

After this price started down...

But wtf? Which right they have for selling tokens just after ICO? Every ICO have vesting period for developers tokens (at last half of year or more)

Price was 44 cent before they started selling tokens.. and now... its going to zero, because this "developers" and bounty manager selling tokens.

This proves nothing I am afraid

[cryptoofox]

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I tagged this user for dishonestly giving his "brother" (I don't believe that) a spot in the campaign and for the other accusations.  He's clearly not being honest and should never be involved in managing a bounty or in any other high-level position in same.  Looks like he'll do whatever he needs to do to siphon money out of bounties, and it isn't fair to other participants.  Good call on posting this, OP.

Edit: magisterr just deleted his post that I just quoted but snipped.  Not sure why.

I have told you the truth. I have been paid much more than that too risk myself to put my name in the bounty program. That little bugger did it wrong. It's not ethical, I understand. At the same time he did his job and got paid for it. 

[cryptoofox]

First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori)  

Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link.

[sabotag3x]

Hello there fellas,

You can include @mazzer in it as well..

What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign..

Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:






On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:






And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654


So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation.

I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys..


I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either.

Have a good one.

Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list.
 

I did not receive my tokens:



https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe777f32d5c4e5066fac032f2a64bed18d2c16513


Meanwhile, other translators have received it..
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x680a9a682e4a7d900fa54177543afb0451631843
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x11b4b2fe83deb9484e88ee9920b2bb75129001a9
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x1b67d7f7700acd6d5ad543b5fab35a7e4007b9a7
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x5be07fbf4bfef358e4dbde8a66f6d917178d601f
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x18c7a972a58b2112c1ba3eb51c6100e856a70619
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x0dac4d0b46de7ea2e9c0cd16b7d21540b18ef33a
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6e045b05208bd7a20bdfda90bac3428be0e1cbfe
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x3ec8013fd3089482834a7e044b72c3c5d4725041
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xd390ca23ffa2bf1b112d3ede5356eb41a62991e1
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe6452d03ff1e3cadfee97f9d793a6fe4fc822ea2
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x15486b58ed09a5fb42334e5c79fd05f9299ea9c3
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6f11b10186d8644b15669f565a94f130e5acd640

[cryptoofox]

Hello there fellas,

You can include @mazzer in it as well..

What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign..

Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:






On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:






And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654


So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation.

I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys..


I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either.

Have a good one.

Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list.
 

I did not receive my tokens:



https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe777f32d5c4e5066fac032f2a64bed18d2c16513


Meanwhile, other translators have received it..
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x680a9a682e4a7d900fa54177543afb0451631843
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x11b4b2fe83deb9484e88ee9920b2bb75129001a9
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x1b67d7f7700acd6d5ad543b5fab35a7e4007b9a7
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x5be07fbf4bfef358e4dbde8a66f6d917178d601f
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x18c7a972a58b2112c1ba3eb51c6100e856a70619
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x0dac4d0b46de7ea2e9c0cd16b7d21540b18ef33a
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6e045b05208bd7a20bdfda90bac3428be0e1cbfe
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x3ec8013fd3089482834a7e044b72c3c5d4725041
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xd390ca23ffa2bf1b112d3ede5356eb41a62991e1
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe6452d03ff1e3cadfee97f9d793a6fe4fc822ea2
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x15486b58ed09a5fb42334e5c79fd05f9299ea9c3
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6f11b10186d8644b15669f565a94f130e5acd640

Let me cross check with the final sheet and the distributor. Could you send me a DM in telegram @cryptoofox 

[SalmanMJ9]

First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori)  

Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link.

This doesn't say anything about the random username in the spreadsheet! If he used your BTC link, then why it's not in the spreadsheet!! 

[cryptoofox]

First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori)  

Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link.

This doesn't say anything about the random username in the spreadsheet! If he used your BTC link, then why it's not in the spreadsheet!! 

Rookie mistake from him as this was his first bounty

[klasik1980]

Gentlemen, I would like to draw your attention to the twitter table. The campaign rules for Twitter are as follows: Above 10000: 25 bets / week. I observe the following: basically those accounts that were put on 25 steaks per week do not have so many followers.

[bintangkejoraku]

it seems that they also took the initiative to reduce the allocation to bounty of old campaigns for personal gain.

[sabotag3x]

Let me cross check with the final sheet and the distributor. Could you send me a DM in telegram @cryptoofox 

I confirm that I received my tokens. (https://ethplorer.io/tx/0xb70bf4f8d751ae1bc79478c143bdada03d6fc50fa1751d1a63472816d6cf8b3a)

Thank you!

[endlasuresh]

I am still waiting for my tokens, but I think will be getting very low. Wht your spreadsheet is locked? How many weeks it require to calculate?
Does Excel dont  do autmate calculations?

[amila_cs]

Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one.

Yeah, we hear this "brother/sister/mother/dog" story all the time.  I like the way you tried to say you didn't cheat with your first two reasons, then admitted you cheated with the third.  :/

His story makes sense though isn't it? Why did he want to cheat and include his own account in the excel so that everybody see it and jeopardize his reputation and trust with the Daneel team. If he want to cheat he can do it without even showing them in the excel sheet. Also for few DANs?. It doesn't make sense at all. His brother has done a mistake that's for sure but I don't think anything serious has happened here

[endlasuresh]

Finally I recieved the bounty as per the mazzerteam words and he kept it up.

[rajurathod18]

Good work OP, this type of bounty managers who manipulate the rewards should be permanently banned coz they bring bad name to the project also bounty hunters doesn't get fair rewards because of them. I too had reported bounty campaign managed by @krypital In which I observed huge manipulation in bounty rewards. I have reported some of the bounty cheaters with the alt account  and they got tagged thanks to the DT members for their prompt action. Also I found some participants who doesn't even exist on bitcointalk forum in spreadsheet who got rewards. Even I had sent PM to @krypital regarding the same matter he didn't even replied, I have strong feeling he is also manipulating the bounty rewards. I was shocked to see his other ongoing campaign spreadsheet he just hide the bitcointalk forum username of participants to protect the bounty abusers and cheater.


I feel moderators should make compulsory rule to mention bitcointalk username of participants in spreadsheet for bounty managers this will help to track the cheaters with alt account.

You can check my reported link here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3438054.msg35846788#msg35846788

[endlasuresh]

Good work OP, this type of bounty managers who manipulate the rewards should be permanently banned coz they bring bad name to the project also bounty hunters doesn't get fair rewards because of them. I too had reported bounty campaign managed by @krypital In which I observed huge manipulation in bounty rewards. I have reported some of the bounty cheaters with the alt account  and they got tagged thanks to the DT members for their prompt action. Also I found some participants who doesn't even exist on bitcointalk forum in spreadsheet who got rewards. Even I had sent PM to @krypital regarding the same matter he didn't even replied, I have strong feeling he is also manipulating the bounty rewards. I was shocked to see his other ongoing campaign spreadsheet he just hide the bitcointalk forum username of participants to protect the bounty abusers and cheater.


I feel moderators should make compulsory rule to mention bitcointalk username of participants in spreadsheet for bounty managers this will help to track the cheaters with alt account.

You can check my reported link here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3438054.msg35846788#msg35846788

Does your alt account is Shrinath or cheater detector?

[rajurathod18]

  Nice joke!!!!!! no i dont know them but i have seen few of post of @cheater detector. Well I am confident on reporting of manipulation in bounty campaign managed by @krypital coz i was one of the Participant in Cybermiles bounty campaign. Managers who organizes bounty campaigns they already gets weekly payments for them and their team members. Then they should not do the manipulation in bounty rewards distribution to load their pockets by cheating hunters & clients behind the scene.

I hope you have checked my reported thread, this case also have similarity with OP. I don't know why @krypital is safe still and now he started to protect bounty abusers with alts by hiding name of bitcointalk participants in spreadsheet on his ongoing and recently closed campaign.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3438054.msg35846788#msg35846788

[endlasuresh]

Most of the Bounty managers do and they use multiple accounts to cheat the system also they dont offer the correct tokens to bounty hunters. This forum is worse where no one take cares.
I thought you reported using your alt account, sorry mistaken.
Theymos never take care of his forums, that's the reason for scammer arising everyday.