[OPEN] BitMine CoinCraft 1 Th/s- January 3rd week batch-waiting miner

[madao]

IMO its the same crap as always, better deals being offered and wanting out. I'll tell you right now, that better deal will be late too, same crap everywhere.

You are right that there is no such thing as a good deal, but the issue here for me is that those 200gh/s got sold to new participants, rather than being divied up between existing shareholders. Those extra gh/s where to compensate for difficulty rises, not to pay for mwm's cointerra rig.
And let's not even get into the issue of whether turbo will provide the extra 500gh/s or not, whether the shares where sold or not.

So even if this turns out to be legit, there will be an icky aftertaste from this GB..

[shiunsai]

refund for my 60 shares too .48BTC 

1JqSXZRnWRotwkvCov9m6FyZTAEV3Fw4kP


Thanks.

bump. can i have my refund please? first you sell me 60 shares saying "last shares!" then you create new shares right after. now ignoring my refund. please send over.

[MrPalmer]

Stop harrassing him. It's easy to confirm that Bitmine isn't actually shipping its normal orders yet. So you're all pretending he's cheating, while at the same time you simple can't say that yet.

IMO its the same crap as always, better deals being offered and wanting out. I'll tell you right now, that better deal will be late too, same crap everywhere.

Give him a rest, once Bitmine actually delivered its batch 1 orders and it's not confirmed here, then you got reason for crying out here. In the meanwhile if you want out, at least provide an alternate buyer, money doesnt grow on trees for the OP either. If he had enough lying around he wasnt doing this groupbuy in the first place.

Actually, we can prove it.  The shares don't add up.  Until he proves us wrong, he's a scammer. 

[martinyin]

he's gone again?

[Bakal]

a refund for those who wants a refund will clear your name of being a scammer. so we are asking sincerely for a refund.
thank you mr gonewiththewind minewithmind

ps. total refund should be 0.48BTC, just refund me .45BTC and ill gift you the .03BTC.

[achtung082]

I would like a refund or sell my 70 shares.

txid: 8108061fd4b71f484074564002d5e9f15e5f1904e010186245608f1c2ea3cdc7

I will also give a discount send 0.60 to: 1CeGJxLBuph7kVcV32qdNrcDzJ8y7BN136

[Markov]

OK,
I need a refund as well, I need cash urgently so please refund my 60 shares to 19g8etd2TfXqqS2cDVQPnkzMZbnqNYij5E.
I've been here supporting you but now needs your help.
Grazie

[LDR]

I would also like a refund. 10 Shares: 2 @ 0.009 and 8 @ 0.007 for a total of 0.074 BTC. Thank you Minewithmind !

1LWKPwFPFgpuLTDMy6v9erg5LRNqASJ4Qz

Bump.

Madao nailed it, even if the miner exists, the value dilution is ridiculous for the original 1000 shares. This fundamentally changed the original investment proposal. Each time minewithmind sold more and more shares he screwed over everyone who had originally bought shares by making each share a smaller percentage of the total miner. Regardless of the miner shipping late, minewithmind had no right to issue more shares when he did because at that point he was no longer the majority owner of the miner.

When a real company dilutes shares, they are required to compensate original shareholders to make up for the loss in percentage ownership. This is done via a stock split, the issuing of B-level shares to new buyers or a dividend payout of the difference. Minewithmind did none of the above and instead devalued everyone's shares while pocketing the profit. Once the initial shares sold, MWM was no longer the sole owner of the miner and instead owned only about 200 shares or 1/5 of the miner. He then decided to sell these 200 shares so that he could start another group buy and keep shares in that one instead. When minewithmind sold these final shares in the group buy, he lost all power to vote. What happens next is the crazy part. After he had already sold all of his own shares, minewithmind decided to issue more shares of the miner that he no longer owned any part of and keep 100% of the revenue.

Thus he devalued everyone shares while making tons of profit selling shares in something he did not own anymore. The money raised by the new shares should have been distributed proportionally to the current owners of shares. Minewithmind owned no shares and thus 100% of the money should have been dispersed. This is tried and true fraud at a basic level.

[MrPalmer]

This is tried and true fraud at a basic level.

+1

Same response as my lawyer.

[martinyin]

This is tried and true fraud at a basic level.

+1

Same response as my lawyer.

did your lawyer give any suggestions?

[MrPalmer]

This is tried and true fraud at a basic level.

+1

Same response as my lawyer.

did your lawyer give any suggestions?

Surprisingly, yes.  For now though, we should be patient and document everything. 

[davideak]

user: Quantaqa
tot: 20 shares
btc address: 1GxJF2EKYC21z57WupB14kAL7naQXrRKgQ

This user in the list - doesn't appear in the member list of the forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search

[Drai]

Stop harrassing him. It's easy to confirm that Bitmine isn't actually shipping its normal orders yet. So you're all pretending he's cheating, while at the same time you simple can't say that yet.

IMO its the same crap as always, better deals being offered and wanting out. I'll tell you right now, that better deal will be late too, same crap everywhere.

Give him a rest, once Bitmine actually delivered its batch 1 orders and it's not confirmed here, then you got reason for crying out here. In the meanwhile if you want out, at least provide an alternate buyer, money doesnt grow on trees for the OP either. If he had enough lying around he wasnt doing this groupbuy in the first place.

[davideak]

Stop harrassing him. It's easy to confirm that Bitmine isn't actually shipping its normal orders yet. So you're all pretending he's cheating, while at the same time you simple can't say that yet.

IMO its the same crap as always, better deals being offered and wanting out. I'll tell you right now, that better deal will be late too, same crap everywhere.

Give him a rest, once Bitmine actually delivered its batch 1 orders and it's not confirmed here, then you got reason for crying out here. In the meanwhile if you want out, at least provide an alternate buyer, money doesnt grow on trees for the OP either. If he had enough lying around he wasnt doing this groupbuy in the first place.

So this user was registered - posted - & deleted ....

[Drai]

Activity: 35
Posts: 35

Search is case sensitive

[zerodegree79]

user: Quantaqa
tot: 20 shares
btc address: 1GxJF2EKYC21z57WupB14kAL7naQXrRKgQ

This user in the list - doesn't appear in the member list of the forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search

Even if i think we have been scammed. He doesn't apper in the uselist because his nam is written wrong. It's Qantaga, minewithmind has mispelled it.

[Drai]

He doesn't apper in the uselist because his nam is written wrong. It's Qantaga, minewithmind has mispelled it.

You also  

but yes, not a case problem

[zerodegree79]

He doesn't apper in the uselist because his nam is written wrong. It's Qantaga, minewithmind has mispelled it.

You also  

but yes, not a case problem

ooooooops

[martinyin]

This is tried and true fraud at a basic level.

+1

Same response as my lawyer.

did your lawyer give any suggestions?

Surprisingly, yes.  For now though, we should be patient and document everything. 

if there is anything i can do to help, just let me know. i will try every effort to give this fuking bastard a good lesson.

[shiunsai]

refund for my 60 shares too .48BTC 

1JqSXZRnWRotwkvCov9m6FyZTAEV3Fw4kP


Thanks.
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pleeeeeese can i have my refund, I'll ake 0.45BTC instead please, im hurting so much...