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August 12, 2011, 04:54:15 AM
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I'd support a protest at The Federal Reserve. Those protesters are mad at the wrong enemy.

While I too would prefer a protest against the Federal Reserve since that is really the source of corruption, Wall Street is absolutely a good target. These motherf***ers all went bankrupt then got the government to bail them out, stealing from the many to enrich the few. It really epitomizes what is wrong with america.

Blame the criminal organization which hands out other peoples' stolen money. Don't blame Wall St. for taking that money when offered to them. Remember also that some financial institutions were FORCED to take the money, so that the vulnerable ones would not be known to the public. The blame lies squarely with Washington, or perhaps with the people who vote those fools into office.

Who do you think is in control of Washington? The american people? If so, LOL!
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August 12, 2011, 12:16:14 PM
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That plan is perfect if you never want to get out of this mess. Unemployment is at 9.1% (18% in reality) and you think a 25% tax hike on those that might possibly create jobs is the answer? How stupid can you get? If you want to raise revenue it's time to go after the 50% of the population that don't pay into income taxes. In some form of incredible irony, it's these same people that claim most of the entitlement benefits that have broken the back of this country. Less than half of the population can not support the other half that holds it hand out.

We have to organize and rally against one enemy. The Republican Party! I am sorry but I don't buy into their bull and they have been owned by wall street for years. And all this hate towards the Federal Reserve is truly unwarranted, they are simply trying to keep things from getting any worse with their quantitative easing methods. Sure that pisses off alot of Europeans who wouldn't be able to do the same thing we can, but realize that we were forced and are still being forced to this approach because of right wing politics. There are Billionaires in this country paying a 17% tax rate while it's 56 percent in country's like Germany! Now remember folks we have no universal healthcare (like Germany), no free college (like France), and absolutely no social safety net for the unemployed other than a few months of below minimum wage unemployment checks and food stamps for life. But you guys are brainwashed to target obscure objects when the obvious is right In front of you.

Get rid of all Bush tax cuts.
Close all tax loopholes for everyone.
Give tax cuts to the bottom $250,000 income bracket with tax cuts getting higher the lower you get.
Raise taxes on all corporations across the board to by %25.
Close all corporate tax havens.
Put a heavy surcharge on all foreign products including China (like they do in many foreign countries).
Make school free for everyone up to the doctorate grade level.
Give world class universal healthcare to everyone free of charge.
Heavily subsidize Health, Space, Technology, & Science.
Tax & Legalize Hemp and all Cannabis related products.
Heavily subsidize domestic energy production (Natural Gas, Biodisel, Hydrogen, Clean Coal, E.T.C)


Like all the things I mentioned above?

So does The President, and if he could have everything he wanted today, we would live in that world I just mentioned above. However, Mr. Obama cannot have the things that he and the majority of Americans want because the Tea Party Republicans have now revolted against the President and against the country itself. Much of it is pure greed coated with just a hint of racism.
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August 12, 2011, 04:15:30 PM
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That plan is perfect if you never want to get out of this mess. Unemployment is at 9.1% (18% in reality) and you think a 25% tax hike on those that might possibly create jobs is the answer? How stupid can you get? If you want to raise revenue it's time to go after the 50% of the population that don't pay into income taxes. In some form of incredible irony, it's these same people that claim most of the entitlement benefits that have broken the back of this country. Less than half of the population can not support the other half that holds it hand out.
Oh please these same 30 year arguments DON'T WORK. You guys (assuming your rich since you seem so eager to defend millionaires) have been getting tax loopholes,taxcuts, and incentives for almost 3 decades.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS NOW? SHOULDN'T THE JOBS BE EVERYWHERE CONSIDERING THESE GRAPHS?



The income disparity has completely tilted toward the rich in the past 40-50 years in ways we have never seen before in this country....

While their taxes are at records lows, lows we have never seen before in this country...



Your talking points are getting old,washed out, and plain silly. We are ready to fight, and let the truth be heard throughout the entire country!
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August 12, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
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Oh please these same 30 year arguments DON'T WORK. You guys (assuming your rich since you seem so eager to defend millionaires) have been getting tax loopholes,taxcuts, and incentives for almost 3 decades.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS NOW? SHOULDN'T THE JOBS BE EVERYWHERE CONSIDERING THESE GRAPHS?



The income disparity has completely tilted toward the rich in the past 40-50 years in ways we have never seen before in this country....

While their taxes are at records lows, lows we have never seen before in this country...



Your talking points are getting old,washed out, and plain silly. We are ready to fight, and let the truth be heard throughout the entire country!

Hang on a second, what exactly do you think these graphs show?

The first one shows me that the income ratios between those income segments have been pretty much unchanged for 50 or 60 years.  That is to say that the slopes of the lines are fairly steady.

The second one shows me that the bar for being considered "ultra rich" in the eyes of the tax code has fallen to the point where it includes most small businesses and farmers.

Your comments lead me to think that you have a wildly different understanding of what they are showing.

Most people are probably going to have problems with the first chart.  That site really doesn't like people linking to their images.  If you want to see it, try going to the front page first, and then go to view the chart.

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August 12, 2011, 07:08:59 PM
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I make about $31,000. Not exactly rich. We don't have a revenue problem, we have an entitlement problem.

That plan is perfect if you never want to get out of this mess. Unemployment is at 9.1% (18% in reality) and you think a 25% tax hike on those that might possibly create jobs is the answer? How stupid can you get? If you want to raise revenue it's time to go after the 50% of the population that don't pay into income taxes. In some form of incredible irony, it's these same people that claim most of the entitlement benefits that have broken the back of this country. Less than half of the population can not support the other half that holds it hand out.
Oh please these same 30 year arguments DON'T WORK. You guys (assuming your rich since you seem so eager to defend millionaires) have been getting tax loopholes,taxcuts, and incentives for almost 3 decades.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS NOW? SHOULDN'T THE JOBS BE EVERYWHERE CONSIDERING THESE GRAPHS?



The income disparity has completely tilted toward the rich in the past 40-50 years in ways we have never seen before in this country....

While their taxes are at records lows, lows we have never seen before in this country...



Your talking points are getting old,washed out, and plain silly. We are ready to fight, and let the truth be heard throughout the entire country!
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August 13, 2011, 07:03:35 AM
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You guys (assuming your rich since you seem so eager to defend millionaires) have been getting tax loopholes,taxcuts, and incentives for almost 3 decades.
Making assumptions about some anonymous person on the Internet that you are arguing with really doesn't prove your point.

Your talking points are getting old,washed out, and plain silly. We are ready to fight, and let the truth be heard throughout the entire country!

Ok so far you have slammed everyone with conservative viewpoints claiming their views are outdated and silly... What truth are you even talking about? The democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for most of the time between 1950-2000s so your graphs only prove that the policies that made the "rich richer" were created in an era when democrats were in power.

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http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm
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August 13, 2011, 08:15:28 AM
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You guys (assuming your rich since you seem so eager to defend millionaires) have been getting tax loopholes,taxcuts, and incentives for almost 3 decades.
Making assumptions about some anonymous person on the Internet that you are arguing with really doesn't prove your point.

Your talking points are getting old,washed out, and plain silly. We are ready to fight, and let the truth be heard throughout the entire country!

Ok so far you have slammed everyone with conservative viewpoints claiming their views are outdated and silly... What truth are you even talking about? The democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for most of the time between 1950-2000s so your graphs only prove that the policies that made the "rich richer" were created in an era when democrats were in power.

Source:
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

How dare you bring facts into this!

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