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December 16, 2013, 08:33:55 PM |
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subvolatil, if you would attended the conference, you definitely would have better idea about Laxmicoin
Please list all your questions I will try to answer or we can have a skype call if you want more detail and we will welcome your suggestions
How about a quick question Like How is this system any good. Ans: Well if you ask me this is definitely very good , I can't make any comment about what you think what are its advantages. Ans : Well Laxmicoin will be accepted by Indian retailers and we will provide support to price.. Difficult to answer like you wanted yes or no Is it based on the bitcoin code, Ans: No is it premined and the big question is it opensource? Ans: premined but will be distributed for " Computing for good cause" You allow computing power for research purpose or some good cause and earn Laxmicoin is this being used for money transmitting purpose. correct me if i am wrong. Ans: Even bitcoin is used for trasmitting money , all digital currencies used to transfer money , I am not sure what is your exact question? Simple yes and no would suffice too.
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subvolatil
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December 16, 2013, 08:45:05 PM |
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subvolatil, if you would attended the conference, you definitely would have better idea about Laxmicoin
Please list all your questions I will try to answer or we can have a skype call if you want more detail and we will welcome your suggestions
How about a quick question Like How is this system any good. Ans: Well if you ask me this is definitely very good , I can't make any comment about what you think what are its advantages. Ans : Well Laxmicoin will be accepted by Indian retailers and we will provide support to price.. Difficult to answer like you wanted yes or no Is it based on the bitcoin code, Ans: No is it premined and the big question is it opensource? Ans: premined but will be distributed for " Computing for good cause" You allow computing power for research purpose or some good cause and earn Laxmicoin is this being used for money transmitting purpose. correct me if i am wrong. Ans: Even bitcoin is used for trasmitting money , all digital currencies used to transfer money , I am not sure what is your exact question? Simple yes and no would suffice too. correction i should have said transmitting fiat currency. Thank you for your answers it clears up alot of things. you missed out the last and the most important question . is it open source?
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 08:47:32 PM |
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Hi Subvolatil,
Thanks for questions and we will be open source but not immediately
it will take some time to come to that level
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 08:50:46 PM |
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Thanks to everyone on this forum for support and We definitely want to launch soon at the same time want to be careful and follow legal frame work
We open for idea and suggestions
special thanks to Benson who has provided us valuable suggestions
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December 16, 2013, 09:19:33 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space
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subvolatil
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December 16, 2013, 09:35:21 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code.
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 09:46:19 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam
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subvolatil
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December 16, 2013, 10:05:54 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more.
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 10:16:52 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Benson, I agree this market is for 5 years but today's market mined currency is not feasible in Indian environment yes definitely we will have to innovate and change with time
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 10:38:07 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions
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subvolatil
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December 16, 2013, 11:18:35 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions Well the problem is this, you'r proposal suggest that there needs to have a central authority. this central authority issues the coins. (This it self creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue coins") Issuing central authority will hold all the control on what price fluctuation it will make. e.g today you may decide to sell the coins at the rate of Rs. 10 for the next 1 years, and for some reason you then start selling it for Rs.2. Or some one else on the market has a lot of these coins and then starts selling it at Rs. 2 the you start to sell it at Rs 2 to make up for the cost, what is there to stop such a thing happening. You are saying you will make it distributed to other using it, and will earn your coin if they contribute their computing power. How will you track their contribution. through hash solution, or login time? Then comes the problem of transaction processing, with a DDOS attack on you main node or even all the distributed nodes a DDOS attack can be sustained . secondly what about the 51% attack on your coin, what if some one with enough processing power gets to your network and processes his own transactions then he can effectively ruin you entire ledger. The other big problem , because it is a central authority issuing coins , what if a hacker gets to your wallet and destroyed all your coins. how will you address this problem. You will be handling a lot of coins and will most probably have to have your wallet with a significant amount of coins on it. cant keep transferring small amounts from a cold wallet to a hot wallet a 100 times a day. the most biggest problem i see is the DDOs on your nodes. a sustained DDos attack on the nodes for a week would mean the coin becomes as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have verry little number of nodes.
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mitts.daki
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December 16, 2013, 11:54:23 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions Well the problem is this, you'r proposal suggest that there needs to have a central authority. this central authority issues the coins. (This it self creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue coins") Issuing central authority will hold all the control on what price fluctuation it will make. e.g today you may decide to sell the coins at the rate of Rs. 10 for the next 1 years, and for some reason you then start selling it for Rs.2. Or some one else on the market has a lot of these coins and then starts selling it at Rs. 2 the you start to sell it at Rs 2 to make up for the cost, what is there to stop such a thing happening. You are saying you will make it distributed to other using it, and will earn your coin if they contribute their computing power. How will you track their contribution. through hash solution, or login time? Then comes the problem of transaction processing, with a DDOS attack on you main node or even all the distributed nodes a DDOS attack can be sustained . secondly what about the 51% attack on your coin, what if some one with enough processing power gets to your network and processes his own transactions then he can effectively ruin you entire ledger. The other big problem , because it is a central authority issuing coins , what if a hacker gets to your wallet and destroyed all your coins. how will you address this problem. You will be handling a lot of coins and will most probably have to have your wallet with a significant amount of coins on it. cant keep transferring small amounts from a cold wallet to a hot wallet a 100 times a day. the most biggest problem i see is the DDOs on your nodes. a sustained DDos attack on the nodes for a week would mean the coin becomes as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have verry little number of nodes. Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare
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subvolatil
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December 17, 2013, 03:46:18 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions Well the problem is this, you'r proposal suggest that there needs to have a central authority. this central authority issues the coins. (This it self creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue coins") Issuing central authority will hold all the control on what price fluctuation it will make. e.g today you may decide to sell the coins at the rate of Rs. 10 for the next 1 years, and for some reason you then start selling it for Rs.2. Or some one else on the market has a lot of these coins and then starts selling it at Rs. 2 the you start to sell it at Rs 2 to make up for the cost, what is there to stop such a thing happening. You are saying you will make it distributed to other using it, and will earn your coin if they contribute their computing power. How will you track their contribution. through hash solution, or login time? Then comes the problem of transaction processing, with a DDOS attack on you main node or even all the distributed nodes a DDOS attack can be sustained . secondly what about the 51% attack on your coin, what if some one with enough processing power gets to your network and processes his own transactions then he can effectively ruin you entire ledger. The other big problem , because it is a central authority issuing coins , what if a hacker gets to your wallet and destroyed all your coins. how will you address this problem. You will be handling a lot of coins and will most probably have to have your wallet with a significant amount of coins on it. cant keep transferring small amounts from a cold wallet to a hot wallet a 100 times a day. the most biggest problem i see is the DDOs on your nodes. a sustained DDos attack on the nodes for a week would mean the coin becomes as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have verry little number of nodes. Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare Well i like that you said that this is an excelent question but the answer was not excellent enough. The bitcoin conference was not a conference in which the indian Bitcoin community attended and many stayed back even those from Banglore, if you are under the illusion that your presentation made it outside that every one now know the answer then you are mistaken. The true community is in here, and the answers are being requested here. and if you be so kind as to bestow your answers to us it will be more than helpful, or may be even a whitepaper. Right now it looks like you havent started with your project and doing this just to hype up what ever altcoin you would release and make a quick buck on it.
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mitts.daki
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December 17, 2013, 10:08:40 PM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions Well the problem is this, you'r proposal suggest that there needs to have a central authority. this central authority issues the coins. (This it self creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue coins") Issuing central authority will hold all the control on what price fluctuation it will make. e.g today you may decide to sell the coins at the rate of Rs. 10 for the next 1 years, and for some reason you then start selling it for Rs.2. Or some one else on the market has a lot of these coins and then starts selling it at Rs. 2 the you start to sell it at Rs 2 to make up for the cost, what is there to stop such a thing happening. You are saying you will make it distributed to other using it, and will earn your coin if they contribute their computing power. How will you track their contribution. through hash solution, or login time? Then comes the problem of transaction processing, with a DDOS attack on you main node or even all the distributed nodes a DDOS attack can be sustained . secondly what about the 51% attack on your coin, what if some one with enough processing power gets to your network and processes his own transactions then he can effectively ruin you entire ledger. The other big problem , because it is a central authority issuing coins , what if a hacker gets to your wallet and destroyed all your coins. how will you address this problem. You will be handling a lot of coins and will most probably have to have your wallet with a significant amount of coins on it. cant keep transferring small amounts from a cold wallet to a hot wallet a 100 times a day. the most biggest problem i see is the DDOs on your nodes. a sustained DDos attack on the nodes for a week would mean the coin becomes as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have verry little number of nodes. Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare Well i like that you said that this is an excelent question but the answer was not excellent enough. The bitcoin conference was not a conference in which the indian Bitcoin community attended and many stayed back even those from Banglore, if you are under the illusion that your presentation made it outside that every one now know the answer then you are mistaken. The true community is in here, and the answers are being requested here. and if you be so kind as to bestow your answers to us it will be more than helpful, or may be even a whitepaper. Right now it looks like you havent started with your project and doing this just to hype up what ever altcoin you would release and make a quick buck on it. Please don't make comments without knowing, We will release the details when required meanwhile you can do guess work
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December 18, 2013, 02:34:30 AM |
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Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change. What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change. Honest opinion of Laxmicoin: It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin. It is not a long term coin .. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast. If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works. 1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Again with the ripple crap. trust me ripple doen not have any thing that is self containing . It needs constant input regulation and human interference. there is not difference between how ripple and actual currency works, this holds true for the Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how the coin should behave will make in no difference to what fiat is , Prone to inflation and flawed. Trust me when ever there is a cloak and dagger involved it's not good for a community born out of a opensource program By the way it is regulation and excessive control by governments that make the current fiat system flawed. The bitcoin network removes that flaw by making sure a system is not tampered and makes all transactions open and public. A simple word this is not a long term coin when the creators hold all the coins and can set price and market fluctuation to their will. An a non-open source crypto coin sounds like a breach to the MIT licences. but who knows Laxmicoin could have built it by scratch and implemented their own algo. cant say any thing about that without reviewing the code. Thanks for input but market fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300 it is considered too be biggest market fluctuation of century Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long at there are isolated exchanges the price fluctuation will be manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year there is spike in bitcoin prices and every year the ratio at which this spike happens is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency is loosing grips in manuplating the market as more distribution of bitcoin happens. however with a system like Ripple and the one you are proposing it will fluctuate, due to many reasons , government intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a person holding a large amount of the premined coins and many more. How many people have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin? Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people 100,000 people out of 1.2B people By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it lets think about this, What % Indians own computer? Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin or Bitcoin our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know, I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions Well the problem is this, you'r proposal suggest that there needs to have a central authority. this central authority issues the coins. (This it self creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue coins") Issuing central authority will hold all the control on what price fluctuation it will make. e.g today you may decide to sell the coins at the rate of Rs. 10 for the next 1 years, and for some reason you then start selling it for Rs.2. Or some one else on the market has a lot of these coins and then starts selling it at Rs. 2 the you start to sell it at Rs 2 to make up for the cost, what is there to stop such a thing happening. You are saying you will make it distributed to other using it, and will earn your coin if they contribute their computing power. How will you track their contribution. through hash solution, or login time? Then comes the problem of transaction processing, with a DDOS attack on you main node or even all the distributed nodes a DDOS attack can be sustained . secondly what about the 51% attack on your coin, what if some one with enough processing power gets to your network and processes his own transactions then he can effectively ruin you entire ledger. The other big problem , because it is a central authority issuing coins , what if a hacker gets to your wallet and destroyed all your coins. how will you address this problem. You will be handling a lot of coins and will most probably have to have your wallet with a significant amount of coins on it. cant keep transferring small amounts from a cold wallet to a hot wallet a 100 times a day. the most biggest problem i see is the DDOs on your nodes. a sustained DDos attack on the nodes for a week would mean the coin becomes as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have verry little number of nodes. Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare Well i like that you said that this is an excelent question but the answer was not excellent enough. The bitcoin conference was not a conference in which the indian Bitcoin community attended and many stayed back even those from Banglore, if you are under the illusion that your presentation made it outside that every one now know the answer then you are mistaken. The true community is in here, and the answers are being requested here. and if you be so kind as to bestow your answers to us it will be more than helpful, or may be even a whitepaper. Right now it looks like you havent started with your project and doing this just to hype up what ever altcoin you would release and make a quick buck on it. Please don't make comments without knowing, We will release the details when required meanwhile you can do guess work Well in that case i call it bullshit. you dont have any thing. and just another Quick money making scam. If you do have a product i will make sure that you follow ethical process. ie opensource codes from a different program needs to be credited to the right source. i hope you follow protocol especially when you are talking about your fictional coin. p.s i am really good working with Ida-Pro when i am determined to find code copyrights violation. Good luck with your endeavor and stay honest. Stealing from the opensource community will get your booted out.
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BTCIndia (OP)
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December 18, 2013, 09:44:16 AM |
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Dear thenoblebot,
Greetings! Can you please kill 'greedy part' for a minute and think yourself as "Mother India" and try to see Bitcoin from her frame of mind. Hopefully, you'd able to see what I see and mean. P.S. I don't appreciate Laxmicoin until and unless all information is public. I only appreciate Swadeshi Virtual Currency. Jai Hind!
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He's Nick Sazbo from Washington. I've my answer. Or Hal? :O
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December 18, 2013, 10:30:13 AM |
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Dear thenoblebot,
Greetings! Can you please kill 'greedy part' for a minute and think yourself as "Mother India" and try to see Bitcoin from her frame of mind. Hopefully, you'd able to see what I see and mean.
P.S. I don't appreciate Laxmicoin until and unless all information is public. I only appreciate Swadeshi Virtual Currency.
Dear BTCIndia, Learn to look beyond boundaries, there is a whole world out there having the same needs. I don't think at all that we need a " Swadeshi Virtual Currency" .. we just need a currency that solves problems of real people .. irrespective of country, caste, color, religion, sex, etc. And don;t get me wrong I might sound tongue in cheek but I say the above with all humility. Imagine if all of us thought the way you said ... there would be 200+(for every country) digital currencies (we already have fiat for that). And all of them are just manipulated and also make for a very inefficient system (which is why BTC sprang up in the first place ... ah what am I saying - the world is just round ... if you know what I mean). Cheers
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BTCIndia (OP)
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December 18, 2013, 10:49:44 AM |
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Dear thenoblebot,
Greetings! Can you please kill 'greedy part' for a minute and think yourself as "Mother India" and try to see Bitcoin from her frame of mind. Hopefully, you'd able to see what I see and mean.
P.S. I don't appreciate Laxmicoin until and unless all information is public. I only appreciate Swadeshi Virtual Currency.
Dear BTCIndia, Learn to look beyond boundaries, there is a whole world out there having the same needs. I don't think at all that we need a " Swadeshi Virtual Currency" .. we just need a currency that solves problems of real people .. irrespective of country, caste, color, religion, sex, etc. And don;t get me wrong I might sound tongue in cheek but I say the above with all humility. Imagine if all of us thought the way you said ... there would be 200+(for every country) digital currencies (we already have fiat for that). And all of them are just manipulated and also make for a very inefficient system (which is why BTC sprang up in the first place ... ah what am I saying - the world is just round ... if you know what I mean). Cheers Okay, I'll learn to look beyond boundaries. I've update myself with the needs of whole world,now. About, Swadeshi currency- we all have freedom of thought. I can't sub-consciously force you to accept as I'm not developed with tools like marketing personnel out there...Chuck it! You're west, I'm east. Cheers to Bitcoin! May God bless Bitcoin but after my country!
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He's Nick Sazbo from Washington. I've my answer. Or Hal? :O
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thenoblebot
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December 18, 2013, 12:20:49 PM |
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Okay, I'll learn to look beyond boundaries. I've update myself with the needs of whole world,now. About, Swadeshi currency- we all have freedom of thought. I can't sub-consciously force you to accept as I'm not developed with tools like marketing personnel out there...Chuck it! You're west, I'm east.
Cheers to Bitcoin! May God bless Bitcoin but after my country!
Lol cmon I know you have to run a company in India but atleast don't sound so naive and make it sound like an "us vs them" . We are all in this together. Cheers to Bitcoin! May God bless Bitcoin after the whole world !! PS: I am as "eastern" as you claim to be
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BTCIndia (OP)
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December 18, 2013, 01:30:01 PM |
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Okay, I'll learn to look beyond boundaries. I've update myself with the needs of whole world,now. About, Swadeshi currency- we all have freedom of thought. I can't sub-consciously force you to accept as I'm not developed with tools like marketing personnel out there...Chuck it! You're west, I'm east.
Cheers to Bitcoin! May God bless Bitcoin but after my country!
Lol cmon I know you have to run a company in India but atleast don't sound so naive and make it sound like an "us vs them" . We are all in this together. Cheers to Bitcoin! May God bless Bitcoin after the whole world !! PS: I am as "eastern" as you claim to be "Us vs them" is always there only difference is platform where this occurs. In past it occurred over spirituality then things changed to physical dominance.. thereafter came money as a form of domination. We're living in age physiological domination. Look at me me now, trying to conquer you with arguments and hollow logic's. It's always "us vs them", m'dear. How can you deny competing economies existing in world? Apply same to Bitcoin ecosystem and ponder. If ' by together' you mean virtual-currencies then for sure, I'm in. My concern is- Bitcoin is tradition english and Swadeshi Currency will be English 2.0. Even if new English had marginal improvements over traditional English where is the infrastructure? Where are the vast tomes of literature written in English 2.0? Where are the speakers and writers and scholars of this new language? Where are the libraries and Wikipedias full of English 2.0 articles? How many newspapers are written and conveyed in English 2.0? How many podcasts, videos will disseminated in this new alternative currency matters. That infrastructure wouldn’t exist, and neither therefore, would the users. This is merely the natural, spontaneous consequence of network effect, and it applies to English as a protocol for language just as it applies to Bitcoin as a protocol for money. I'm still contemplating... Hail crypto-currencies!Reject Bitcoin!
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He's Nick Sazbo from Washington. I've my answer. Or Hal? :O
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