Issue with Minerjones and anonymousminer for an escrow.

[Tekno2020]

I do not personally know Tekno2020 but i have transacted a good amount of  money with him. he delivered what he promised in time.

I do not think he should be getting a negative review on his wall.

Thanks mikey, got plenty can vouch.   The only one left that is not available to answer any questions is,,,, minerjones.

In the meantime, here is the pm that both me and Kraven received today from his buddy 'anonymousminer'.

Quote from: anonymousminer on Today at 08:55:20 AM

Hello members,
Minerjones has asked me to reach out to both of you as he had a real life emergency and will be back Monday to release funds.  The BTC has confirmed and the coupons can be traded.  
-AM

I guess we will soon see if minerjones shows up to put this in order,,,,,,,  

[anonymousminer]

Are you kidding me right now? I try to help a friend and get these ridiculous accusations?  What the hell is wrong with you people?

[anonymousminer]

I'm not disrespectful enough to bother him over a forum issue with what he has going on, but I assure you he will address your little sewing circle when he returns..... you will all look like morons!!

-AM

[Kraven]

It’s natural for me to be worried. So please stop. We are getting answers now

[anonymousminer]

If it were me, I would have to wait. I'd be concerned the anonymousminer account may have changed hands.
What address were funds sent to by Tekno2020?

He seems to be using the same address but there is an odd change in writing style on anonymousminer images recently... from March:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3082512.msg31792680#msg31792680
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3084424.msg31814648#msg31814648

and then in May, a new style 7 & 8 recently, as well as the "th" being included:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3619222.msg36589591#msg36589591
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3631376.msg36630837#msg36630837

Personally, this would be enough to make me nervous, given the circumstances.

Hey you ridiculous fool.... the writing style is different because the second 2 are in minerjones handwriting!!  Slamming me with negative trust when this has nothing to do with you and I was helping one of the most trusted people on this site.  Again, you are all ridiculous.

[anonymousminer]

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

Nobody really knows what's going on, and people have seen enough scams to be a little paranoid.  There is always the possibility of an account being sold or hacked, and this looks very much like the situation I mentioned with gameristo, where immediately after he made a deal with someone, a "friend" showed up claiming the other guy had a medical emergency.  See the link and where EckhartJV swooped in to explain why JayT stopped responding.

If everything gets resolved, you'll get your feedback removed.  There's no need to get defensive here.  It only makes you look worse.

Makes me look worse?? 

Yes.  Wake up and get the fuck over yourself.  The two parties are asking where the escrow went with all that money, and they are skeptical of the story that was provided.  They have every right to question this on a forum where people like Master-P have caused people to doubt the trustworthiness of even the darkest-green trusted member. 

[anonymousminer]

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

Nobody really knows what's going on, and people have seen enough scams to be a little paranoid.  There is always the possibility of an account being sold or hacked, and this looks very much like the situation I mentioned with gameristo, where immediately after he made a deal with someone, a "friend" showed up claiming the other guy had a medical emergency.  See the link and where EckhartJV swooped in to explain why JayT stopped responding.

If everything gets resolved, you'll get your feedback removed.  There's no need to get defensive here.  It only makes you look worse.

Makes me look worse??  Than this little sewing circle slamming my friend and I.  I can get defensive when someone takes aim at my character!  I'll be looking for apologies for MJ and myself!  Someone actually thought MJ would exit for 2800.00.  Jesus Christ.... SMH.....

[yahoo62278]

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

Nobody really knows what's going on, and people have seen enough scams to be a little paranoid.  There is always the possibility of an account being sold or hacked, and this looks very much like the situation I mentioned with gameristo, where immediately after he made a deal with someone, a "friend" showed up claiming the other guy had a medical emergency.  See the link and where EckhartJV swooped in to explain why JayT stopped responding.

If everything gets resolved, you'll get your feedback removed.  There's no need to get defensive here.  It only makes you look worse.

Makes me look worse??  Than this little sewing circle slamming my friend and I.  I can get defensive when someone takes aim at my character!  I'll be looking for apologies for MJ and myself!  Someone actually thought MJ would exit for 2800.00.  Jesus Christ.... SMH.....

Sorry you were dragged into this, I 100% trust MinerJones period. I was just trying to make him aware of the thread so he could respond and clear it up. These other guys are just looking out for the community as well.

I don't think they're trying to be malicious towards you or MJ. Just trying to protect the community a bit until MJ responds.

[anonymousminer]

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

Nobody really knows what's going on, and people have seen enough scams to be a little paranoid.  There is always the possibility of an account being sold or hacked, and this looks very much like the situation I mentioned with gameristo, where immediately after he made a deal with someone, a "friend" showed up claiming the other guy had a medical emergency.  See the link and where EckhartJV swooped in to explain why JayT stopped responding.

If everything gets resolved, you'll get your feedback removed.  There's no need to get defensive here.  It only makes you look worse.

Makes me look worse??  Than this little sewing circle slamming my friend and I.  I can get defensive when someone takes aim at my character!  I'll be looking for apologies for MJ and myself!  Someone actually thought MJ would exit for 2800.00.  Jesus Christ.... SMH.....

Sorry you were dragged into this, I 100% trust MinerJones period. I was just trying to make him aware of the thread so he could respond and clear it up. These other guys are just looking out for the community as well.

I don't think they're trying to be malicious towards you or MJ. Just trying to protect the community a bit until MJ responds.

I understand looking out for the community, but I was not even aware of this till someone noticed my trust.  I was not asked for more proof, nothing.... just unfounded accusations!!

[Ticked]

MJ, a well trusted escrow who had held multies times this for IPOs, who I have personally just completed a deal worth well north of this in which he sent payment without escrow preshipping, whom many individuals here have his dox...scamming for the price of a '92 prelude... Relax. The funds are fine.

[mikeywith]

Are you kidding me right now? I try to help a friend and get these ridiculous accusations?  What the hell is wrong with you people?

the fuck are you mad for? people sent thier shit to your friend, your friend didn't reply , they go worried it is common sense. and then out of all memebers you sent thoese 2 a message telling them something about your friend when nobody really knows the fuck you are. anybody would worry ! it's human nature stop whining.

....and before you guys keep slandering both our names, pick another escrow.... I'll send the funds for MJ and settle up with him later.  Jesus!!!

Nobody really knows what's going on, and people have seen enough scams to be a little paranoid.  There is always the possibility of an account being sold or hacked, and this looks very much like the situation I mentioned with gameristo, where immediately after he made a deal with someone, a "friend" showed up claiming the other guy had a medical emergency.  See the link and where EckhartJV swooped in to explain why JayT stopped responding.

If everything gets resolved, you'll get your feedback removed.  There's no need to get defensive here.  It only makes you look worse.

!  I'll be looking for apologies for MJ and myself!  Someone actually thought MJ would exit for 2800.00.  Jesus Christ.... SMH.....

the only one who should be apologizing here is MJ.  
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I do not know any of you , and i do not give a fuck what you or the others think. but i am judging based on my common sense !.

[buckrogers]

Fellas , please relax.

I can confirm what anonymousminer is saying, and I deal with minerjones on a regular basis.

He is not available atm but will be returning as soon as his personal issue is over.
This I know for a fact , and I’ve been around for a long time - My trust ratings speak for themselves.

If you are terribly concerned with the Btc not getting released to the seller right away , I would personally arrange for the BTC to be sent on minerjones behalf - even though I think this is totally ridiculous witch hunt or whatever.

Life happens and I’m sorry if anyone has to wait a few days to recieve funds.

We have all seen many scams and exit scams take place on this forum, and in general.

This is NOT one of those times.

If you have any specific concerns seller please reach out to me via PM and let’s stop all of this unnecessary bashing please.

I have also worked with anonymousminer on some deals as well and can vouch for his integrity and trying to assist an old friend.

Thanks!

[Lesbian Cow]

You all are wacked in the head and are over reacting to a degree that does not even register on a scale to 10.

Everyone chill, all will be fine, and for the OP who feels they are being scammed for 2800 usd - if minerjones goes sKamarooo not only will i be out a significant amount of monies (far more than 2800 usd) but i will refund your 2800 usd....

This all happened in less than 24 hours, you need to realize that sometimes one cannot respond to your Internet messages immediately because life happens....

[Tekno2020]

Are you kidding me right now? I try to help a friend and get these ridiculous accusations?  What the hell is wrong with you people?

Hello anonymousminer, as I stated earlier in the thread, I thought it was premature to post about this publicly and bring it before the community.  I would have preferred to wait for minerjones on Monday.   But as it were, Kraven (the seller) started the thread and the hoard 'detectives' went to town.  As the buyer, I got my acct temporarily red striped (for what I am not quite sure) ...and so was compelled to run the gauntlet to set facts straight.

At any rate, as the buyer, and the only one here with btc at risk,,,, Im chill,,, so everyone else needs to calm the @#$^#  down.  Hopefully nothing too serious with minerjones situation,... you get the negs removed quickly.... and we can all put this entire thread to rest.
Tekno

[anonymousminer]

Are you kidding me right now? I try to help a friend and get these ridiculous accusations?  What the hell is wrong with you people?

Hello anonymousminer, as I stated earlier in the thread, I thought it was premature to post about this publicly and bring it before the community.  I would have preferred to wait for minerjones on Monday.   But as it were, Kraven (the seller) started the thread and the hoard 'detectives' went to town.  As the buyer, I got my acct temporarily red striped (for what I am not quite sure) ...and so was compelled to run the gauntlet to set facts straight.

At any rate, as the buyer, and the only one here with btc at risk,,,, Im chill,,, so everyone else needs to calm the @#$^#  down.  Hopefully nothing too serious with minerjones situation,... you get the negs removed quickly.... and we can all put this entire thread to rest.
Tekno

Thank you Tekno, and I'm glad to finish the transaction for you both as I stated earlier. 

[owlcatz]

Y'all just need to chill a bit. MJ is alive and well and will take care of business asap.

Nobody should be negging AM. Thanks!

[killyou73]

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

Yep, that's suspicious and I've seen this before along with the stalling tactic of having a "friend" contact one of the parties to the deal.  A while back gameristo got scammed for some PP funds, and this is exactly what happened.  I'm hoping for your sake that this doesn't turn out to be a scam, but I'd be more than a little suspicious if it was me.

How much was this deal for, anyway?

$2800

Yikes.

$2800 is exit scam worthy- which is why I’m worried.

I agree--it's "worth" ruining a trusted account for if one was dishonest and inclined to do it.  Again, I do hope for your sake this isn't the case.  It's just awful when all the senior members harp on using escrow to avoid scams, and then the escrow ends up pulling an exit scam.

minerjones account has been around since 2014,,,, are people that hungry around here to forfeit a Top 3 escrow position around here for some low level scam.

The last top 3 escrow exit scammed for like I beleive 9k. Maybe even less. (Madaiik, or something like that)

[audaciousbeing]

Glad to see this is gradually resolved and  its all about break in communication or else, its going to be another round of issues that would take days or weeks to go away. Its really Ok to be skeptical $2800 is something while it could be some little amount to some people, it mean a lot to others and that's why emphasis should be shifted from the value that is the subject of discussion. Monday is almost here and all parties should chill and wait till then but from the response read so far, it sure mean that there is no cause for alarm.

[ibminer]

I do not think he should be getting a negative review on his wall.

Eh, yeah.  I'm not sure why he got a negative trust from ibminer, either.  I read this thread from the beginning, and if anyone is deserving--at least temporarily--of a neg, it's minerjones.  Props to Yahoo62278 for trying to contact him, and let's hope this doesn't turn out ugly.

Originally, nothing I had seen at that point in time really indicated minerjones was involved at all, so I was actually looking more into some sort of fake escrow scam posing as minerjones and swapping in another address on a quote, which would certainly be unique, considering who had the coupons and who was sending the funds... but that thought stemmed from the added concern with the aforementioned strange handwriting change from anonymousminer, most people do not change the way they write 7's and 8’s. This concern made me question whether the anonymousminer account was under the control of the same person that minerjones has known for a long time or whether it was under the control by the same person sending funds to the fake escrow and then coming on with a compromised account as a friend of minerjones and telling Kraven to send the coupons.

Fast forward to after that feedback was left, after I received additional information/PMs, I realized minerjones' account was actually involved in the PMs… which was a little surprising for me. because the behavior is unusual for him to not respond, but at this point, I'd say a likely temporary feedback on minerjones is warranted (in case of the account being compromised, this notifies others and protects minerjones from potential further damage) but I’m optimistic that it will all be cleared up. However, anonymousminer & minerjones are not accounts I would personally trust right now, no offense… I realize there may be special circumstances minerjones may be going through so I’m not trying to be insensitive, but, based on the way other scamming/compromised escrows have went down, I am being hypersensitive… temporary feedback seems warranted and I don’t think damages anyone in the short term.

I have no problem removing feedback if this is cleared up.

EDIT:
Lesbian Cow's 24 hour comment made me re-think this last part  ... somewhere along the lines I had gotten the impression this was a longer timeframe he had been coming online and not responding. I can't really stand by a negative feedback this soon but I would not release any coupons until minerjones addresses the thread.