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August 17, 2011, 12:18:33 AM
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U have the wrong end of my stick.

I'm not talking about replacing bitcoin.

I'm talking about Having other bitcoins.

So what if Fred mined a load. I don't care. If JPMorgan thought it were a great idea I'm sure they could print all theoney in the world to buy all the bitcoins. I still wouldn't care.

My point is about having other bitcoins. The bitcoin system is fine. Id still be happy if satoshi made a bitcoin A and a bitcoin B as ling as he laughed them at different times to male them compete.

That's it. Blah. I'm tired. Mo more from me. All the best!
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August 17, 2011, 01:25:57 AM
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OP, thanks for compiling the list, I hope you'll keep it up to date.

I'd rather see so much effort dedicated to improving the user friendly-ness of  bitcoin, after all the publicity, I feel that it has become the growth bottleneck, just like many great inventions that didn't survive.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4666.msg68058#msg68058
 
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August 17, 2011, 02:20:52 AM
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I see 2 possibilities

Either the forks loose support
or
Bitcoin & the forks merge

A merge would consist of a p2p system to trade virtual currencies which will eventually emerge as the dominant system but I can't quite prove it.


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August 17, 2011, 02:48:35 AM
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I understand how people feel about these other Bitcoin copies, alternatives.

However I still believe that alternative Crypto currencies good for bitcoin and the community.
We're trying to create a brand new currency here, without bootstrapping it off an existing measure of value.  This has happened very rarely throughout history, and the odds are vastly against us being successful with even one.  What this requires is widespread adoption and trading depth such that volatility is sufficiently smoothed out, and the currency is usable for accounting with.

Convincing those that don't understand this to spread their value among multiple cryptocurrencies meant for the exact same purpose so obviously goes against the goal of gaining sufficient trading depth of one.
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August 17, 2011, 03:14:08 AM
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Convincing those that don't understand this to spread their value among multiple cryptocurrencies meant for the exact same purpose so obviously goes against the goal of gaining sufficient trading depth of one.
I think the problem are lost coins.
Since the immature operating systems people loose them from time to time.

The figure is probably very small but I think it's significant with a reason:


At first if there is a perceptual loss of coins over time they will eventually in correlation with the pigeon-principle all be lost.

Another one is the psychological factor. If somebody has started mining early and lost coins this is more traumatizing as being robbed, loss due to speculation in the old money or the outcome of unprofitable mining at current difficulty. The realization that the profit will be gone forever has much deeper implications. It may be comparable with a destroyed property.
So this person may try by any means to get it back but since this isn't possible anymore there has to be new ground.

To compensate for this factors new crypto currencies must be created over time.

Just my humble theory...
Yes it could really be that the makers of these alternate currencies are just jealous of the pioneers.

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August 17, 2011, 03:35:20 AM
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At first if there is a perceptual loss of coins over time they will eventually in correlation with the pigeon-principle all be lost.
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August 17, 2011, 03:53:52 AM
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At first if there is a perceptual loss of coins over time they will eventually in correlation with the pigeon-principle all be lost.

Shocked
You got me here, but it should be clear what I have wanted to tell.
I realize the irony.  Cheesy

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August 17, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
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an "alternate cryptocurrency" subforum should be made, and this thread should be stickied at the top of it.

And when it does get stickied, let us all remember what exactly it is that made bitcoin a success: it's elegant.

None of these alternative currencies has so far shown even a fraction of the elegance bitcoin has.
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August 17, 2011, 11:54:53 AM
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Technology is so cheap thanks to open source culture, but I think some of todays economy problem actually caused by the open source culture, it twisted the traditional value system but still can't survive without it, just like those who mine the coins actually want to exchange it to USD to payback their power bill

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August 17, 2011, 05:44:50 PM
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1) Download bitcoin or xicoin source.

2) Define a new genesis block
https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin/blob/28b781f6390173dd31d771c4e061468256758dfe/src/main.cpp#L1515
Don't forget to start with some message like "To see the farm is to leave it"

3) Change the has hash of the genesis block to whatever you made it in (2):
https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin/blob/28b781f6390173dd31d771c4e061468256758dfe/src/main.cpp#L33

4) Optional step: get yourself more money: change the value of a single block
https://github.com/ixcoin/ixcoin/blob/28b781f6390173dd31d771c4e061468256758dfe/src/main.cpp#L639
Fred wanted 96 per block, instead of 50. Pro tip: make it a few thousand at least, miners will be happy

5) type make

6) Huh
7) profit!!!


Excuse me, but if a neo-coin creator wants to give himself (and not everybody else) extra  moneys, shouldn't he put those moneys into the genesis block, and not just increase per block reward ?

Or are money in the genesis block unable to be moved out of it ?

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August 17, 2011, 08:07:57 PM
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I wanna make trollcoins any proposals of how they should work?  Cheesy
nice idea Smiley
I know how it should work, realy.
Trollcoin client should work both in bitcoin and trollcoin networks.
It should use bitcoin blockchain and targets and pass them in getwork answer for the user.
If user solved  bitcoin block, Trollcoin client will give hiim some of those trollcoins (10000 for example) and sign your bitcoin crypto key to that bitcoin block.
So people mine bitcoin for you and trollcoin for themselves.

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August 22, 2011, 08:30:42 AM
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None of these alternative currencies has so far shown even a fraction of the elegance bitcoin has.
Since they're mostly the same, they can't be that much less elegant.

So far I've seen two more interesting approaches:

Namecoins add names.
Solidcoins add faster transctions and less upwards volatility-of-difficulty.

Both ideas have inherent value. That's rather important; we don't just invent a new currency. Anybody can do that. (Look up Norton I, self-styled Emperor of San Francisco, for a particularly interesting example.)

We want to do new things here which we couldn't do before.
One can send money and exchange it for different money with any bank. That's not the point of Bitcoins.
Neither is the ability to mint your own money. That's a nice feature, for now, but it'll stop working (i.e. "generate enough coins to offset the power bill") soon enough.

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August 22, 2011, 09:47:04 AM
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Don't forget buttcoin stupidcoin gexcoin nutcoin vagcoin lamecoin blowcoin beercoin weedcoin gascoin acoin bcoin xcoin ycoin and the million other coins that people are trying to pass off as anything other than gimmicks trying to make a quick buck on the back of bitcoin...

You forgot,  FucktheFederalReserve Coin, and ElectRonPaul Coin, and of course, SuckmyCock Coins, those last ones are sure to shoot up in value very often

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Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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August 22, 2011, 02:07:01 PM
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Don't forget buttcoin stupidcoin gexcoin nutcoin vagcoin lamecoin blowcoin beercoin weedcoin gascoin acoin bcoin xcoin ycoin and the million other coins that people are trying to pass off as anything other than gimmicks trying to make a quick buck on the back of bitcoin...

You forgot,  FucktheFederalReserve Coin, and ElectRonPaul Coin, and of course, SuckmyCock Coins, those last ones are sure to shoot up in value very often


I just hashed the first SuckMyCockCoin:





Now, I'm waiting for it to dry.
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August 22, 2011, 02:23:05 PM
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I just hashed the first SuckMyCockCoin:

Holy sh** that doublec guy is really fast... https://smcockcexchange.bitparking.com

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August 22, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
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I just hashed the first SuckMyCockCoin:

Holy sh** that doublec guy is really fast... https://smcockcexchange.bitparking.com

Double check your link. For me, it's only going to a music video on YouTube showing some guy name Rick, singing. But since I was on YouTube, I did find a Bitcoin related video. It addresses how to overcome the increased difficulty aspect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEovJfuwkg (not a RickRoll, but I promise you'll LOVE it just the same)
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August 26, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
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Hi, I have a similar list here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7500

But most of them are just proposals that probably won't be implemented.

2 different forms of free-money: Freicoin (free of basic interest because it's perishable), Mutual credit (no interest because it's abundant)
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August 26, 2011, 10:56:30 PM
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Hi, I have a similar list here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7500

But most of them are just proposals that probably won't be implemented.



another proposal, ValueCoin!
each coin could have a $ value associated with it with it
theirs an unlimited supply.
the coins are mined and only have value once they are sold.
when you buy a ValueCoin its hold the value you bought it at.

Bitcoin didn't see that one coming!LOL





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August 27, 2011, 08:33:16 AM
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when you buy a ValueCoin its hold the value you bought it at.

So they're not fungible?
Or are you just kidding?

2 different forms of free-money: Freicoin (free of basic interest because it's perishable), Mutual credit (no interest because it's abundant)
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August 29, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
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Should you add solidcoin?

2 different forms of free-money: Freicoin (free of basic interest because it's perishable), Mutual credit (no interest because it's abundant)
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