Must Acrivity and Merit fall over time?

[nev1d]

I had an idea how to increase the amount of a common Merit, by reducing inactive accounts.
Perhaps you will not agree with me, but how can you look at accounts that have 1000 merit, but the last time in the network were back in 2016?
How about everything will work:
  If you do not log in for 2 months - minus 10 Merits
  If you do not write posts, within 2 months - minus 10 Merits
Where will Merit go? It will be distributed among people close to the administration, who will subsequently hand out it for useful topics.
Of course, this issue will need to be finalized, but what do you say about this idea? If you agree, what rules would you add?

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[jackg]

NO.

They earnt their ranks. They can keep them can't they?

Minus 10 merit for not posting in 2 weeks just promotes spam also - excatly what we are trying to avoid.
And there there'll be services of "pay to keep your account active".

Merit is unlimited, if theymos wanted to increase the amount of source merits avaliable, he just has to hit a button on his admin tab.

[theyoungmillionaire]

Nope, the current merit system is already great for me. Merit sources + additional merit sources will address this issue.

[loggin]

I read somewhere on the forum that if you do not login or make any post here for 3 months , the account is deleted. Can someone confirm this as I could not find anything official about this.

Regarding your suggestion OP, current ranking up is based on both activity and merits. It might be implemented for higher ranks though.

[jackg]

I read somewhere on the forum that if you do not login or make any post here for 3 months , the account is deleted. Can someone confirm this as I could not find anything official about this.

If you don't login for three months, your account gets locked. It does not get deleted, ACCOUNTS NEVER get deleted under normal circumstances/ without the owner's request and signature.

Similarly, the owner needs to sign to say that they want their account to be unlocked. The main way to do this is to sign a staked address/another public key.

[athanz88]

This is insane. It is not easy to earn merit yet it is not an impossible things too. But having a chance to be demeritted when you dont active for 2 months is insane and not the idea we are looking for merit system now. Merit system itself is already a great system for me, but if i would add something, it would be to increase the number of merit sources, but it is hard to find a person who are worthy of that job.

[nev1d]

This is insane. It is not easy to earn merit yet it is not an impossible things too. But having a chance to be demeritted when you dont active for 2 months is insane and not the idea we are looking for merit system now. Merit system itself is already a great system for me, but if i would add something, it would be to increase the number of merit sources, but it is hard to find a person who are worthy of that job.

I agree, I have a lot of interesting posts (not discussions), but I have lost motivation, when they go unnoticed under a lot of discussions. Therefore, it would not be bad to add one more variant of receiving merit for posts

[DdmrDdmr]

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I think you are confusing Merit and sMerit in your post, and understanding the difference is vital to deploy any concerning ideas. You are probably talking about sMerit and confusing the merit obtained with the available sMerit. If that is the issue, then you need to go back to the drawing board after learning to differentiate them.

On the sMerit decrease by decay or else there are some threads that have approached the issue, but I’m not going to refloat them now. Search for them, and reformulated knowing what is what and why first.

[nev1d]

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I think you are confusing Merit and sMerit in your post, and understanding the difference is vital to deploy any concerning ideas. You are probably talking about sMerit and confusing the merit obtained with the available sMerit. If that is the issue, then you need to go back to the drawing board after learning to differentiate them.

On the sMerit decrease by decay or else there are some threads that have approached the issue, but I’m not going to refloat them now. Search for them, and reformulated knowing what is what and why first.

I meant that Merit, which takes away from inactive users will turn into a sMerit, which you can already send.

[botany]

I read somewhere on the forum that if you do not login or make any post here for 3 months , the account is deleted. Can someone confirm this as I could not find anything official about this.

If you don't login for three months, your account gets locked. It does not get deleted, ACCOUNTS NEVER get deleted under normal circumstances/ without the owner's request and signature.

Similarly, the owner needs to sign to say that they want their account to be unlocked. The main way to do this is to sign a staked address/another public key.

Where did you read that accounts get locked after three months of inactivity? I know that accounts which tried to log in after years of inactivity, after the 2015 hack get locked, but I haven't read anything else.

[stompix]

I had an idea how to increase the amount of a common Merit, by reducing inactive accounts.

There is no need to take merit away from some members in order to have more sMerit to distribute to activet forum users. Merit and sMerit are not capped, Theymos can create (if necessary ) hundred of sources or grant the actual ones thousands of smerits a month.

Perhaps you will not agree with me, but how can you look at accounts that have 1000 merit, but the last time in the network were back in 2016?
How about everything will work:
  If you do not log in for 2 months - minus 10 Merits
  If you do not write posts, within 2 months - minus 10 Merits

I don't understand what's the obsession with the merit or rank of others...
It bothers you that much that an old, now inactive account has 1000 merit?
Leave the guy alone, he earned his rank fair and square by the rules at that time.

[Tyrantt]

I had an idea how to increase the amount of a common Merit, by reducing inactive accounts.
Perhaps you will not agree with me, but how can you look at accounts that have 1000 merit, but the last time in the network were back in 2016?
How about everything will work:
  If you do not log in for 2 months - minus 10 Merits
  If you do not write posts, within 2 months - minus 10 Merits
Where will Merit go? It will be distributed among people close to the administration, who will subsequently hand out it for useful topics.
Of course, this issue will need to be finalized, but what do you say about this idea? If you agree, what rules would you add?

Are you talking about merit or sMerit? Deducting merit would not be a good idea, but deducting sMerit if they're just sitting there, then that's a different story. Tho, I'm not for sMerit reduction due to inactivity.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Nope, the current merit system is already great for me. Merit sources + additional merit sources will address this issue.

Ditto, I think the system needs time to do what it's going to do--shitposters are going to get sick of stagnating at Jr. Member, earning pennies for bounties because they can't earn enough merits to rank up.  Already the merit system has put the kabosh on account farmers easily ranking up dozens (or more) accounts just with activity and time, and that's a huge positive. 

As I've said a million times, it's not supposed to be easy to earn merit and I don't think any tweaks are necessary that entail taking sMerits or whatever away from members who aren't active.  That would just add unneeded complexity and would, as mentioned, promote more frequent posting that would probably manifest itself as spam.

[jackg]

I read somewhere on the forum that if you do not login or make any post here for 3 months , the account is deleted. Can someone confirm this as I could not find anything official about this.

If you don't login for three months, your account gets locked. It does not get deleted, ACCOUNTS NEVER get deleted under normal circumstances/ without the owner's request and signature.

Similarly, the owner needs to sign to say that they want their account to be unlocked. The main way to do this is to sign a staked address/another public key.

Where did you read that accounts get locked after three months of inactivity? I know that accounts which tried to log in after years of inactivity, after the 2015 hack get locked, but I haven't read anything else.

I thought that there was a default for smf of 3-6 months, maybe I've just imagined it. It might be the 2015 hack and something I have just picked up from then and reused now if people assumed it was three months at that point.

[athanz88]

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I don't understand what's the obsession with the merit or rank of others...
It bothers you that much that an old, now inactive account has 1000 merit?
Leave the guy alone, he earned his rank fair and square by the rules at that time.

Could not agree more with you. If only people put that obsession into making merits for themselves, they would get so much merits and will find that merits is not that impossible to get, and everybody in this forum live happily ever after.

[botany]

I don't understand what's the obsession with the merit or rank of others...
It bothers you that much that an old, now inactive account has 1000 merit?
Leave the guy alone, he earned his rank fair and square by the rules at that time.

Exactly. People should worry about getting merits and ranking up, not the ranks of others.
The merit system is working as designed - preventing the hoardes of accounts being registered from ranking up by default.

[kenjionline]

This is not true, why should people be encouraged to visit the forum? Much less write. If a person has registered for a long time, and comes to the forum just read the information he needs, and then he also has to write. Theymos can increase the amount of merit by increasing the number of sources of merit.

[finaleshot2016]

I think you must get a life/job before creating an idea like that. You know that it's very unfair for those who reach the high rank, who put an effort and participated the discussion when the new generation is not still coming. I must say that there are huge differences between the new one and the old.

You must know first why does theymos create the merit system on this forum. Reducing inactive accounts is not a good solution thus maintaining the good quality topics will make things better and the last one, MERITS IS NOT THE MAIN THING HERE! you'll reduce accounts because of merits? lmao you're too obsessed with it..

[justine11]

WTF. are you jealous that those inactive accounts have hero or legendary status and they have 1000 merit? dude they just earned that rank and they deserved when the merit system isn't a thing way back then so leave them alone and besides those accounts had contributions than you did OP. last thing if weren't spammers in this forum merit system wouldn't be created so it's our fault that we must carry.

[dark1234]

Oh no......
I strongly disagree with this idea what's on your mind it's a very unfair thing for members who already get their merit either because they have joined old or new
merit is not something that the members are concerned about because they will get it if they are not spam
if the system you are thinking of in your application is too greedy to get rid of other members