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May 13, 2018, 08:56:30 PM
Last edit: December 06, 2022, 09:40:28 AM by digaran
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After reading through my posts and others just realised how wrong i was few years ago, i apologise if i annoyed anyone with my stubbornness.

Hopefully will not make such mistakes.

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May 13, 2018, 09:07:21 PM
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I would like to understand this point :
1- If user scammer1 want to hire you, he needs to pay N x 0,01BTC fees.
2- if you failed to convince at least 1 of the N DT(s), scammer1 will not get his money back?
3- if he will open a scam accusation : you will refuse to refund him and you prefer to get a negative trust instead?

Well, seems legit...since you imposed rules to rape scammers...

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May 13, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
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I would like to understand this point :
1- If user scammer1 want to hire you, he needs to pay N x 0,01BTC fees.
2- if you failed to convince at least 1 of the N DT(s), scammer1 will not get his money back?
3- if he will open a scam accusation : you will refuse to refund him and you prefer to get a negative trust instead?

Well, seems legit...since you imposed rules to rape scammers...

I will act as their lawyer, I will expose the people in position of power for their abuse. in the end it is up to community to decide which one is trusted.
If you want to entrust your money to DT members, you should know them first, I'm here to eradicate abusers of power. I am willing to adhere to the
Rules of the forum. I would either convince DT1-2 members to remove their negative trust or would expose them for the whole community to see.

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May 13, 2018, 10:27:02 PM
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I will act as their lawyer, I will expose the people in position of power for their abuse. in the end it is up to community to decide which one is trusted.
If you want to entrust your money to DT members, you should know them first, I'm here to eradicate abusers of power. I am willing to adhere to the
Rules of the forum. I would either convince DT1-2 members to remove their negative trust or would expose them for the whole community to see.

Can't call yourself a lawyer lmao
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May 13, 2018, 11:43:51 PM
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How do we know you aren't colluding with DT members to red tag people and split the profits 50-50?
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May 14, 2018, 12:56:32 AM
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I will expose the people in position of power for their abuse.

Have you ever done this in the past? What if the trust rating is justified?

If you want to entrust your money to DT members, you should know them first

I thought we were talking about trust ratings, not money. How does DT members giving you a negative rating mean that you are entrusting them with your money? Your logic train is slippery as a wet lizard.

I'm here to eradicate abusers of power. I would either convince DT1-2 members to remove their negative trust or would expose them for the whole community to see.

I would like to join your fight against the abusers of power. Please, share with us the information that you are planning to expose  for the whole community to see. Either you have evidence of abuses of power already, or you are talking out of your ass. Claiming that you will expose abuses of power, where there may be none, is simply nonsensical. I'd like some evidence, because leaving you a negative rating when you talked about extorting users to remove negative ratings is not an abuse of power; your bad jokes are piling up and I would ask that you take a step back to analyze.

First you talk about extorting scammers to remove your negative rating, meaning your word and ratings are worth nothing. Now you're talking about getting paid by scammers to extort DT members to remove their ratings. You are a very interesting specimen, digaran. You get in trouble, kicked out of your campaign and then grovel at the feet of other members until you are pitied enough to be given a second change. Then you slightly rearrange what you just got scolded for and are making another attempt at it.

No matter how much you polish a turd, it does not become a diamond. Stop trying to extort $ for ratings. I don't care who's rating it is, who's the receiver or what the reason is. If you know of some injustice and you demand a fee before taking a stand against this injustice, then you are a scumbag that doesn't care about truth or justice. You are concerned with lining your pockets. Please try to see how this looks to anybody on the outside. If I was marlboroza, this thread alone would be enough to make me revert my rating to negative.

How do we know you aren't colluding with DT members to red tag people and split the profits 50-50?

If you can find proof of this I would be extremely interested in seeing it. To my knowledge there aren't many, if any, people that are DT members and willing to risk their reputation by working with such a volatile and controversial user on a minimally beneficial scheme such as this. I honestly doubt that is the case. More realistically, digaran got their negative rating from marlboroza changed from a negative to a neutral after throwing a fit around the forum for about a week. Digaran tried to backpedal and explain away their statements that resulted in the negative rating. The ending result is either, digaran is a troll or digaran is lying and extorting members further than originally intended/explained.

He got his own rating changed, and now he is laughing in marlboroza's face, while believing themselves to be on a special platform.

I assume my posts will be deleted in your self-moderated thread, but just know that you gave me a big laugh and smile from reading this thread.
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May 14, 2018, 02:02:35 AM
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This service implies that there is a flaw with the Default Trust network and that its members are expected to leave a wrongful negative feedback rating, which defeats the purpose of having said member in the DT network.

Why not use your energy to identify the flaws with the current DT2 members that are abusing their powers so they can "get kicked out from their positions" rather than coercing some poor member into paying you 0.01BTC with the expectation that you'll get the rating removed, or funnier yet, the DT2 member kicked...

Honestly, @digaran, it has come to the point where I'm not sure whether this post is an actual serious service that you're offering, or if it's an attempt at trolling. I never know with you.
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May 14, 2018, 02:07:06 AM
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DT does not imply that you are trustworthy with money, rather it implies that you leave accurate ratings.

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May 14, 2018, 04:32:39 AM
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The whole money part defeats the purpose of this thread, IMHO. You will most probably be hired by scammers for defending, than real victims of false red tags. But I appreciate your service, it's new, it's innovative. Might even be useful to some victims. As a suggestion, I can say that maybe you can first try to take up some small cases for free, show your talent and then launch the paid service. Pretty much like PIL (Public Interest Litigation, could be known by other names in different countries) in courts.

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May 14, 2018, 04:45:27 AM
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Pretty good service, for who doesnt deserve to get negative trust. So here I want to ask you what would you chose, money or justice?

I imagine this scheme (dont take this serious) :

1. Scammer/non-scammer ask for help, and he/she paid the charge
2. You can't get him/her out from red tag
3. He open scam accusation, but you can defend yourself and make him get more exposed for being scammer
4. You can live freely with the money you got from him/her.

What do you think? Huh Huh Huh

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May 14, 2018, 06:54:24 AM
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Since you're so good with sarcasm in most of your posts,I'll just assume this is another sarcastic post at it's best and move on.  Wink

Obviously you knew where the quote was taken.
But this is me explaining at best digaran 30% of the member who got "neg tag" is a scammer and others included with the imaginary statistic is a spammer.

Rationally you had a better chance if you are going to defend a spammer and s/he is just started learning to work well with his/her keyboard or language spoken most of the time I've only seen whining if someone was neg tag for spamming the community with little knowledge that they had regarding rules. (e.i: if a newbie member ask a loan for non-collateral one within their first 10 post in this community it greatly shows that s/he is indeed a scammer. However there will always be a time when a newbie ask a loan but have a good reasoning I guess this is all subjective.)(i.e: Similarly if a newbie member just post and don't care about rules and obligations as a newbie they will get tagged eventually and that is the member I always see whining on their red tagged and that member don't have any satoshi to afford your service IMHO.)

The whole money part defeats the purpose of this thread, IMHO. You will most probably be hired by scammers for defending, than real victims of false red tags. But I appreciate your service, it's new, it's innovative. Might even be useful to some victims. As a suggestion, I can say that maybe you can first try to take up some small cases for free, show your talent and then launch the paid service. Pretty much like PIL (Public Interest Litigation, could be known by other names in different countries) in courts.



DT does not imply that you are trustworthy with money, rather it implies that you leave accurate ratings.
Not acting as an accomplice of digaran but he's explained it.
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whether you lie or tell the truth, people are the ones I care about. judge my case to show to the people that your positive trust with no reference is justified and you haven't been abusing your position.

In this statement it definitely shows what kind of character and custom oneself need to possess if they want to be part of this community and not just a a person who participates in an airdrop and such alike.
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May 14, 2018, 07:18:13 AM
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How do we know you aren't colluding with DT members to red tag people and split the profits 50-50?

If you can find proof of this I would be extremely interested in seeing it. To my knowledge there aren't many, if any, people that are DT members and willing to risk their reputation by working with such a volatile and controversial user on a minimally beneficial scheme such as this. I honestly doubt that is the case. More realistically, digaran got their negative rating from marlboroza changed from a negative to a neutral after throwing a fit around the forum for about a week. Digaran tried to backpedal and explain away their statements that resulted in the negative rating. The ending result is either, digaran is a troll or digaran is lying and extorting members further than originally intended/explained.

It seems I have forgotten my sarcasm tag, although I think the forum is in a sad state if my comment could be taken seriously. Digaran is just a troll, he enjoys this attention.
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May 14, 2018, 07:25:27 AM
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Digaran is just a troll, he enjoys this attention.

And that is all anyone needs to know.

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May 14, 2018, 07:31:12 AM
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Digaran is just a troll, he enjoys this attention.

And that is all anyone needs to know.

And thank you for letting us know.
it is fortunate enough if this post isn't going to be trash by digaran.
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May 14, 2018, 10:44:07 AM
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How do we know you aren't colluding with DT members to red tag people and split the profits 50-50?
For him to even possibly collude,he would have to speak something that would make sense. And we all know digaran wouldn't do that.
Stop trying to extort $ for ratings. 
He is not doing that. He is just blabbering something from which he knows,he will get the community's attention.
Digaran's intentions are weird but has got something to do ,which may or maynot be beneficial  in the "long run". His plan is working out just as he expected. He trolls others,he uses his sarcasm in a serious manner,misleading people much often. He got himself,red-tagged,and he has got a lot more to do. Now not sure,what exactly he is trying to accomplish by doing all of this....

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May 14, 2018, 11:45:52 AM
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My account got tag because I don't read the rules for joining sosmed Campaign.
It's happened a long time ago. Afterwards, I try to get second chance but he not response at all.

Is it possible to defend my case?
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May 14, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
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My account got tag because I don't read the rules for joining sosmed Campaign.
It's happened a long time ago. Afterwards, I try to get second chance but he not response at all.

Is it possible to defend my case?
Eh, it seems like you tagged someone, not the other way around.
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May 14, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
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Is it possible to defend my case?

digaran did such a fantastic job with his first case that this user at the time of this writing has 0 negative feedback on their profile! I'm absolutely amazed, so it was a .01 well spent then, eh? More seriously, why did you believe you had negative feedback?
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May 14, 2018, 02:13:15 PM
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I wouldn't delete your posts.

How do we know you aren't colluding with DT members to red tag people and split the profits 50-50?

Who cares? as long as negative trust is illegit, it should be removed. I will take advantage of reasonable doubt. I want to act as a lawyer.

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May 14, 2018, 02:14:13 PM
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Is it possible to defend my case?

digaran did such a fantastic job with his first case that this user at the time of this writing has 0 negative feedback on their profile! I'm absolutely amazed, so it was a .01 well spent then, eh? More seriously, why did you believe you had negative feedback?

I'm guessing that they are speaking on behalf of one of their alt accounts.

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