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April 28, 2017, 10:02:09 PM
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I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?

Yes it's still 10 and 50 BTC. The Bitcoin value is USD is not taken into consideration.

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April 30, 2017, 11:06:58 AM
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I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?

Don't bother, the time for this has gone. Save yourself a lot of money & forget about it. There aren't any worthwhile benefits by donating.

You can change your username if you call that a benefit.




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May 01, 2017, 03:13:44 PM
 #363

I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?

Yes it's still 10 and 50 BTC. The Bitcoin value is USD is not taken into consideration.

Having 10 or 50 btc in the past was much easier than nowadays... Mining was easier, btc to USD was cheaper
I don't think that these prices should be updated since it is unfair for the old one but I am with adding additional ones



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May 01, 2017, 03:34:06 PM
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I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?
Yes we still are.The rule of not calculating the value of bitcoins in terms of fiat is followed while taking the donator status otherwise it would be unfair for the previous donars.
Having said that,you can always donate whatever amount to the address mentioned in the donate tab.Forum doesn't depend on donations now.

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May 10, 2017, 05:34:19 PM
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I hadn't paid much attention to this before but am interested in supporting, but I am curious, are we still at 10/50BTC given the intent of the original amounts and the current value relative to fiat?
Yes we still are.The rule of not calculating the value of bitcoins in terms of fiat is followed while taking the donator status otherwise it would be unfair for the previous donars.
Having said that,you can always donate whatever amount to the address mentioned in the donate tab.Forum doesn't depend on donations now.

I don't agree with it being unfair to previous donars.

Donating back then was about $100 for 10BTC.  Now, it's $17k.
Most of those who donated simply wanted to be on the list and it was cheap.   Asking $17k simply stops 99.9% of the public from getting a badge.  It also probably puts a near stop on regular donations as well.

At some kind of minimum, the scammers should be removed from the list.  It's bad advertising.


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May 10, 2017, 06:10:54 PM
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At some kind of minimum, the scammers should be removed from the list.  It's bad advertising.

Seems like a slippery slope.

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May 12, 2017, 05:48:59 AM
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I saw the list, and donated 50 btc. But I can not even collect 10 here. I hope there are real philanthropists. Thank you in advance ..


If you're going to claim to have donated 50 BTC, you should be on the list and/or able to prove it.

Do you honestly want people to believe you donated 50 BTC, but you're asking for free coins?  Ha.  Funny first posts by you.

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May 25, 2017, 12:28:45 PM
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I would like to become a donator or VIP and be credited for it, because I like this forum and I want to prove my support to other members here, and also in order to maybe improve my reputation a little bit further.  Wink

However, obviously the current prices are a joke, which is kinda frustrating and incomprehensible?! If someone paid $500 USD for becoming a VIP in the past, why should someone now pay $135,000? For "fairness"? Doesn't make much sense to me.  Cheesy

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However, obviously the current prices are a joke, which is kinda frustrating and incomprehensible?! If someone paid $500 USD for becoming a VIP in the past, why should someone now pay $135,000? For "fairness"? Doesn't make much sense to me.  Cheesy

1 BTC is always 1 BTC. Why do you compare it to USD price? This is not USDTalk, this is Bitcointalk and forum don't need any donation money now. It was needed at that time and thanks to theymos, it is used for new forum software.

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However, obviously the current prices are a joke, which is kinda frustrating and incomprehensible?! If someone paid $500 USD for becoming a VIP in the past, why should someone now pay $135,000? For "fairness"? Doesn't make much sense to me.  Cheesy

1 BTC is always 1 BTC. Why do you compare it to USD price? This is not USDTalk, this is Bitcointalk and forum don't need any donation money now. It was needed at that time and thanks to theymos, it is used for new forum software.

Why?  Well, if bitcointalk wants to get larger donations, then a change needs to be made.  I find it unlikely they will ever get someone donating 50BTC again.  No legit person is going to donate that many coins.   Let's return here when bitcoin is 5k and have this talk again as to why it should or shouldn't stay at 50BTC.  I'd rather see the scammers from long ago taken off the donator list.

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May 25, 2017, 06:13:12 PM
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Most people trade based off of the fiat value, which is why someone would want to look at this donation amount and convert it.

theymos isn't starting off his bids for advertising on this forum at .5BTC like he did in the past... he lowered it to .25 and now .1, as would be expected because people aren't going to start bidding at .5 with prices the way they are. I, too, would love for everyone to trade BTC as BTC... it just isn't reality right now.

There is no desire to change the donation amount, the forum doesn't care about donations anymore because they apparently do not need it, so as of now it has been decided that it will not change. If they want or need donations again in the future, I would guess this will be changed to bring in a higher quantity of donations, but nobody knows if or when that would ever happen.

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May 25, 2017, 11:00:39 PM
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Instead of people complaining about the 10 and 50BTC price tags for their respective ranks, people should team up and show that there is demand for a new rank, but with a lower entry price.

Maybe a dynamic BTC/USD price tag that moves up/down according to the most recent exchange rate would be a decent change.

Otherwise the same discussions about an expensive price tag will show up again as the price will surely continue to increase throughout the upcoming years.

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May 30, 2017, 04:36:02 AM
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However, obviously the current prices are a joke, which is kinda frustrating and incomprehensible?! If someone paid $500 USD for becoming a VIP in the past, why should someone now pay $135,000? For "fairness"? Doesn't make much sense to me.  Cheesy

1 BTC is always 1 BTC. Why do you compare it to USD price? This is not USDTalk, this is Bitcointalk and forum don't need any donation money now. It was needed at that time and thanks to theymos, it is used for new forum software.

Why?  Well, if bitcointalk wants to get larger donations, then a change needs to be made.  I find it unlikely they will ever get someone donating 50BTC again.  No legit person is going to donate that many coins.   Let's return here when bitcoin is 5k and have this talk again as to why it should or shouldn't stay at 50BTC.  I'd rather see the scammers from long ago taken off the donator list.

I agree and posted proof how one of them "Kluge" (with friends here) sent me a death threat and trolling harassment via PM and then vanished.. after trashing my rating.
And once he did others piled in trying to get a jab in too (Monero idiots and VOD the arrogant retard)

Fair or not don't matter.
What matters is theymos calls the shots.

So to him i would say look man, the price is way higher vs 2011.
So if you lowered it you would get a whole hell of a lot more money.
So it's simple.. want money ? Lower the amount for Donator / VIP.
Don't ?
Then leave it.
Simple.

It's your site so make the rules however you want.
There is no OBLIGATION to past donators.. they got their "perks"  Cheesy

But i am not sure it's wise to pull a donation title based on scam accusations.
I would vote leave that alone.. if they paid then they paid.
I'd rather be able to see if a user is banned with a title under their name.
Then it could still say Donator but banned underneath..

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The Bitcoin Forum is a website meant to host free discussion of Bitcoin and related topics. It is operated mainly as a service to the community, and the vast majority of income after expenses is either saved for future expenses or reinvested into the forum or the community. The forum was started in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto, the original creator of Bitcoin. It is now managed by theymos, BadBear, Cyrus, and a dedicated team of moderators. Forum finances are managed by theymos.

If you donate 10 BTC, you can get a special "Donator" title and a green "who's online" color. If you donate 50 BTC, you get VIP status and the ability to create a custom title for yourself. Both Donators and VIPs also get access to an exclusive forum section. You must contact theymos prior to donating if you want to take advantage of this offer: you will be given a unique donation address. See this forum topic for more details.

Thank you for your interest in donating to the Bitcoin Forum!

If you donate 10 BTC (which pays for about a month of hosting), you get donator status:

If you donate 50 BTC, you get VIP status, which allows you to set a custom title:

This is not (yet) automatic: you need to PM me before donating. See the new donation page for more details.

This is part of an effort to make the forum self-sustaining. If donations alone are not enough, a few auctioned-off text ads will probably be added.

I came here today looking for what is involved in donating and what perks, if any, exist.

I must say the vision of donating 10/50BTC when it was created refers to 10 BTC paying for 1 month of hosting for the site. That amount seems almost unbelievable today unless this forums monthly costs are much bigger than I could have imagined.

1 BTC floating around $2700 USD right now and this translates to $27,000 USD for Donator and $135,000 for VIP.

I understand that it should be respected for the people that donated these amounts back in their day and even Claymore semi-recently earning Donator status for his 10 BTC Donation but IMO these ranks and price points should be retired for something more palatable and reasonable.

As others have suggested, I will also suggest, perhaps it's time to create a new donator structure that is based off of the fiat dollar amount at the time of the donation so the "NEW" VIP could be something reasonable?

I would also go further to suggest that maybe there are different tiers of donation titles or something as has been done on other message boards. I know this is isn't something that can not be done overnight and it takes a lot of thought/work to implement.

Thanks for the consideration.
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August 02, 2017, 02:25:14 PM
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I understand that it should be respected for the people that donated these amounts back in their day and even Claymore semi-recently earning Donator status for his 10 BTC Donation but IMO these ranks and price points should be retired for something more palatable and reasonable.

As others have suggested, I will also suggest, perhaps it's time to create a new donator structure that is based off of the fiat dollar amount at the time of the donation so the "NEW" VIP could be something reasonable?

I would also go further to suggest that maybe there are different tiers of donation titles or something as has been done on other message boards. I know this is isn't something that can not be done overnight and it takes a lot of thought/work to implement.

Thanks for the consideration.

More donator ranks with additional perks has been suggested by a few users myself included. I even suggested we remove signatures from ranks entirely to stop account farming and then you can only get one through donation. Pegging them to fiat was also recommend.

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The Bitcoin Forum is a website meant to host free discussion of Bitcoin and related topics. It is operated mainly as a service to the community, and the vast majority of income after expenses is either saved for future expenses or reinvested into the forum or the community. The forum was started in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto, the original creator of Bitcoin. It is now managed by theymos, BadBear, Cyrus, and a dedicated team of moderators. Forum finances are managed by theymos.

If you donate 10 BTC, you can get a special "Donator" title and a green "who's online" color. If you donate 50 BTC, you get VIP status and the ability to create a custom title for yourself. Both Donators and VIPs also get access to an exclusive forum section. You must contact theymos prior to donating if you want to take advantage of this offer: you will be given a unique donation address. See this forum topic for more details.

Thank you for your interest in donating to the Bitcoin Forum!

If you donate 10 BTC (which pays for about a month of hosting), you get donator status:

If you donate 50 BTC, you get VIP status, which allows you to set a custom title:

This is not (yet) automatic: you need to PM me before donating. See the new donation page for more details.

This is part of an effort to make the forum self-sustaining. If donations alone are not enough, a few auctioned-off text ads will probably be added.

I came here today looking for what is involved in donating and what perks, if any, exist.

I must say the vision of donating 10/50BTC when it was created refers to 10 BTC paying for 1 month of hosting for the site. That amount seems almost unbelievable today unless this forums monthly costs are much bigger than I could have imagined.

1 BTC floating around $2700 USD right now and this translates to $27,000 USD for Donator and $135,000 for VIP.

I understand that it should be respected for the people that donated these amounts back in their day and even Claymore semi-recently earning Donator status for his 10 BTC Donation but IMO these ranks and price points should be retired for something more palatable and reasonable.

As others have suggested, I will also suggest, perhaps it's time to create a new donator structure that is based off of the fiat dollar amount at the time of the donation so the "NEW" VIP could be something reasonable?

I would also go further to suggest that maybe there are different tiers of donation titles or something as has been done on other message boards. I know this is isn't something that can not be done overnight and it takes a lot of thought/work to implement.

Thanks for the consideration.

For the record, I already have asked theymos about changing the amount to achieve Donator and VIP status. His explanation was quite brief: changing it into something smaller than what it is could be grounds for services and people to abuse the system to scam. Of course, many malicious user would take advantage of a couple hundred bucks to potentially scam thousands because people will trust them due to their status.

Even VIP and Donators can scam or fuck the hell out of your bitcoins. See TradeFortress and the now defunct betcoin.tm. The latter I have experienced being tossed from one to another rep for just 1.5 bitcoins.

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For the record, I already have asked theymos about changing the amount to achieve Donator and VIP status. His explanation was quite brief: changing it into something smaller than what it is could be grounds for services and people to abuse the system to scam.

Do you have the actual quote of this? Was he talking about the current Donator/VIP ranks or new additional ones? I don't think that just because somebody might take advantage of them to scam is a good enough reason. People can already buy accounts here to do that or use their already Hero/Legendary status to try pull off a scam anyway. In fact, you could probably argue that people who donate to the forum will be less likely to scam because they have money invested in their account.

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August 03, 2017, 09:59:07 PM
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-snip-.

It was a thread started by me on May or June of 2015, somewhere along those lines. I haven't found it yet but if you look into a few pages of this post back in 2013-2015, you can see that some people already have requested to lower down the donation or just peg it to the USD. Some members are concerned that accounts with such status can be used to scam others since they seem to be 'trustworthy' just because they have those titles in their name.

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August 04, 2017, 09:09:40 AM
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I don't think theymos will ever lower the current donator ranks and has previously stated it wouldn't be fair,  but that's not to say there couldn't be additional ranks which would be pegged to fiat. When I initially proposed it he seemed to think it could be a good idea but I've brought it up several times recently with no response which is a shame because I think it could severely restrict or even stop account farming if bigger signatures were included in the perks.

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I don't think theymos will ever lower the current donator ranks and has previously stated it wouldn't be fair,  but that's not to say there couldn't be additional ranks which would be pegged to fiat. When I initially proposed it he seemed to think it could be a good idea but I've brought it up several times recently with no response which is a shame because I think it could severely restrict or even stop account farming if bigger signatures were included in the perks.

You are in a bitcoin forum, and having some perks from any donation measured on a static fiat value (even if you donated bitcoins) would be nonsensical, might as well create a fiattalk forum too. And again, the donation required to attain these perks wouldn't be lowered in any way as again it could be a cheaper gateway to scam from other users of the forum.

Also, why would lowering the donations restrict account farming in any way? Idk how will it be possible.

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