[ANN][EAC] EarthDice - First Dice Game for EarthCoin - NOW 1% House Edge

[Hura]

Uhmmm... read just now :s

Some faucet deposit doesn't accredited. Did they went accredited after?

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[singula]

Provable fair? Not really. You see the server seed only if you explicitly ask for it, so in cases you explicitly don't ask for it, the server is free to perhaps try to generate maybe 3 or 5 hashes and use the one that gives better result (i.e. player losing) - especially if it is a large bet

Also, you can't change the client seed (at least not without resorting to some trickery with Greasemonkey), as it is generated by browser (I suppose some JS code), which may or may not be predictable.

So it is not provably fair. It is looking to be provably fair and it may be fair internally, but not provably

Also, 1 EAC withdraw fee is quite large considering max bet is only 181 EAC profit and the suggested faucet gives about 0.05 EAC.

Both should be fixed ....

[cozie]

deposits enabled, of course, all deposits have been credited

Provable fair? Not really. You see the server seed only if you explicitly ask for it, so in cases you explicitly don't ask for it, the server is free to perhaps try to generate maybe 3 or 5 hashes and use the one that gives better result (i.e. player losing) - especially if it is a large bet

Also, you can't change the client seed (at least not without resorting to some trickery with Greasemonkey), as it is generated by browser (I suppose some JS code), which may or may not be predictable.

So it is not provably fair. It is looking to be provably fair and it may be fair internally, but not provably

Also, 1 EAC withdraw fee is quite large considering max bet is only 181 EAC profit and the suggested faucet gives about 0.05 EAC.

Both should be fixed ....

as you say server seed is showed if you click on proper link, if you don't trust you can check before every bet, new server seed is generated when you login and after every bet
client seed is generated by your browser, by javascript, using "(new Date()).getTime()", then is hashed by the server using md5, you can check your browser request header and replay it changing your client seed as you wish, or you can code your bot, check server seed and use your preferred client seed before every bet

faucet is not related in any way to me, you should use it only for testing purpose, you shouldn't use the faucet every time you play

[maeglin]

I sent 50 EAC from my wallet but not appeared. After a while I sent 10 more to test adress but it appeared.
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[singula]

Still, the server knows if player has checked the seed or not (either he sends the request for the seed or just rolls the dice), so he knows whether he must be honest, or whether the player does not know the seed (so the server can generate anything). And time-derived seed is quite predictable from server within some accuracy.

For example just-dice uses a secret (as you) and a client seed (which can be set by user in GUI) and the server seed is then just iterated starting from 1 (1 for first bet, 2 for second, etc ....). Similar as now (player also knows seed in advance), but can be verified later even if player forgot to check the server seed first (last time was 2, so now is 3, no need to check explicitly).

Also, i was not complaining about the low output of the faucet, but about the high payout fee (much more than the txfee), especially when related to relatively low maximum profit per roll.

[PyroTekNeks]

Wow, this thing must hate me. 1st roll off a 1k EAC bet @ 95% and lose?  Hmmm...fishy.

[singula]

Wow, this thing must hate me. 1st roll off a 1k EAC bet @ 95% and lose?  Hmmm...fishy.

Have you looked at the server seed before making your roll?

[PyroTekNeks]

Wow, this thing must hate me. 1st roll off a 1k EAC bet @ 95% and lose?  Hmmm...fishy.

Have you looked at the server seed before making your roll?

No. I'm stupid, why would I do that? Lose on 95% on a high bet on the first roll? With such little profit actually given by that win rate, it's just weird.

[cozie]

I sent 50 EAC from my wallet but not appeared. After a while I sent 10 more to test adress but it appeared.
Username necrox

fixed

[maeglin]

I sent 50 EAC from my wallet but not appeared. After a while I sent 10 more to test adress but it appeared.
Username necrox

fixed

Thanks

[cozie]

Still, the server knows if player has checked the seed or not (either he sends the request for the seed or just rolls the dice), so he knows whether he must be honest, or whether the player does not know the seed (so the server can generate anything). And time-derived seed is quite predictable from server within some accuracy.

For example just-dice uses a secret (as you) and a client seed (which can be set by user in GUI) and the server seed is then just iterated starting from 1 (1 for first bet, 2 for second, etc ....). Similar as now (player also knows seed in advance), but can be verified later even if player forgot to check the server seed first (last time was 2, so now is 3, no need to check explicitly).

Also, i was not complaining about the low output of the faucet, but about the high payout fee (much more than the txfee), especially when related to relatively low maximum profit per roll.

you are saying that i check if user visit the server seed page before betting, and if he didn't i generate other seeds until i get a good number for me? i'm not doing this, but of course you will say: why i should trust you?

anyway i'm thinking how to implement the just-dice method without change a lot in my code/db, i know i'm not cheating, but that way you will not have doubt about it

[singula]

you are saying that i check if user visit the server seed page before betting, and if he didn't i generate other seeds until i get a good number for me? i'm not doing this, but of course you will say: why i should trust you?

anyway i'm thinking how to implement the just-dice method without change a lot in my code/db, i know i'm not cheating, but that way you will not have doubt about it

I'm not saying that you are doing this (I have no evidence that even suggests this behavior), just that the proof in your implementation of provable fairness does not prove that you are not doing it - i.e. I could imagine a possible way to cheat and still be completely undetected by examining all the available evidence (all dice rolls, all hashes, all secrets, all dice roll statistics) provided as part of provable fairness.

[cozie]

implemented new Provably Fair method, like singula suggest

[cozie]

house edge reduced from 3% to 1%

enjoy

[vastbitcoins]

can i invest in this site as well?

[adif2010]

I have to make a deposit of 100 EAC to address [Suspicious link removed] wallet on the website, but I have not got a deposit entry. How long should I wait? This website is a SCAM? 

[adif2010]

I have tried it this morning. I recommend that this website is very good (not a scam), because I get instant deposit. Even after getting a profit, I also immediately perform WD processed instantly and turns as well. All process both deposits and WD is less than 30 minutes.
However there are some drawbacks that I see are:
1. There is no chat feature among members
2. Website opened heavy enough through my computer
3. No affiliation bonus
Thank you.

[snuffish]

Why not waste some pennies for a "real" domain name?.. this ".tk" domain looks pretty bad.

[snuffish]

I found a bug of some sort that managed to lose my coins.. look at this screenshot:



The "highlighted" bets wasn't supposed to happen..

This was my auto-betting settings:


As you see I only increase 100% after every loss.. so those 3 bets doesn't make sense.

#EDIT: Could it be because the "max bet" only is ~600 EAC?

[snuffish]

Also pretty bad with the low "max profit".. i want to play some "highroller" games..  

Overall good site, deposits and withdrawals works fine