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May 18, 2018, 01:29:34 AM
Last edit: May 20, 2018, 12:07:56 PM by frodocooper
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17.2TH/s, 1570W at the wall, Innosilicon announces today the world most powerful and efficient BTC Miners---INNOSILICON Terminator 2 (T2) Miner ready for mass shipment!

Innosilicon, the worldwide leader of crypto currency mining ASIC manufacturer, unveiled the 10nm innovative SHA256 miner, the Terminator 2 miner, which is a leap forward in the current hot contested BTC mining market. This new product again showcase the Innosilicon's engineering capacity to deliver the most advanced mining ASIC miners nonstop.

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INNOSILICON Terminator 2 (T2) Miner is the next generation BTC mining product that adopts the state-of-the-art semiconductor technology with the innovative dynamic frequency scaling architecture for added efficiency and reliability. The typical hash rate reaches over 17.2TH/S  per miner, and power consumption can go as low as 85W/TH at the wall in the high efficiency mode. Innosilicon T2 miners will generate considerable better ROI, cost much less to operate over competition, and will be the last one standing as today's mining difficulty increases sharply. T2 is likely to operate with profit and good re-sell values when other miners become obsolete in the sharp difficulty rise. Own T2, worry free.

http://www.innosilicon.com/uploadfile/2018/0517/20180517084751448.jpg

From http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/25.html



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May 18, 2018, 02:32:46 AM
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Is it same chip as the Halong T1 correct?
Will -ck provide firmware to this gear?
Does it only mine BTC?
Is it limited to 5 pools?

i was not able to the pool i wanted

is it only possible to mine on slush and ck? i dont like these pools at all there are more profitable o es but if i enter the details it keeps loading and not connecting is it hence only possible to mine on 2 pools
The public pools it currently works on are:
ckpool
solo ckpool
slush
bitminter
f2pool


I would love to demo one for you if you answer my 4 questions. Above
I don't mind being  limited to the 5 pools above as long as I know this before I buy it.

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May 18, 2018, 04:00:16 AM
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Will -ck provide firmware to this gear?
No

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May 18, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
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It means to me that Inno needs to make it clear that it only works with pools that supports AB.

Until the majority of pools support AB failure to mention that is false advertising by omission because people will naturally assume that it works with all pools  - and for all sha256-d coins - as historically all miners have. This miner and the T1 do not.

As I've said about Halong and their T1, if Inno wants all pools to support AB then they need to get some of these in the hands of the pool operators so they can test the changes on their pool using Testnet to verify how it behaves with their setup. Only a fool would make live changes to what is essentially financial software without testing on their pool hardware/software setup first.

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May 18, 2018, 02:24:03 PM
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The original T2 thread is listed here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3389644.0

Innosilicon, do you have an explanation for CK not supporting your hardware, and your current relationship with Halong?

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May 18, 2018, 03:13:54 PM
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So from experience the specs are something more along these lines:


17.2 - 6% = 16.17TH

1570w + 6% = 1664w



In all fairness, if they can operate at 50c external temps they have a place in the market because nothing else does.


Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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May 18, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
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Hmm........should I buy a lot of this to test out? Inno being Inno and all
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May 18, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
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If you have a choice, which half refund from order of Innosilicon or miner, I will now always choose a refund.
You will get more money back, than with miner from Innosilicon.

My recommendation is, not buy and stay far away from this company.

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May 18, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
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Missing one key piece of information:  How much?

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May 18, 2018, 06:26:24 PM
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@ -ck thank you for reply

price does matter  would like to know.



I would not buy this without proper firmware support.

My t1's are fine at low and medium speed.

If I can not set this gear to 3 speeds I do not want it.


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May 18, 2018, 10:37:52 PM
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I won't be having a Innosilicon T2 for review, bought or for free,
their business policy is bad for the community and I also have bad personal experience with them..

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Missing one key piece of information:  How much?

$1600/unit and MOQ 100  Grin
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May 21, 2018, 09:27:39 PM
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My moderation standards have not changed in many years as moderator here but I'm not the only moderator.

As for this mining hardware, specifically I'm contracted by MyRig for the driver to the HalongMiner T1 and have nothing to do with Innosilicon directly.

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Missing one key piece of information:  How much?

S9s and avalons are selling cheap these days. They need to compete strongly on price too, or it wont make sense to purchase.

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S9s and avalons are selling cheap these days. They need to compete strongly on price too, or it wont make sense to purchase.

This is so important for the miner besides performance. Bitmain’s still capable of lowering their S9 price if the Innosilicon comes close to it in price or performance to stay competitive. This will have to be near the price of an S9 to have decent sales at all.

We already know the price in bulk ($1600/100 MOQ), but resellers will definitely markup the price. The question is how much it will cost for us and what Bitmain will do in response- they’ll probably lower the price of the S9 further as aforementioned (S9i 14TH/S is currently at $1050 with PSU).

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May 22, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
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This is so important for the miner besides performance. Bitmain’s still capable of lowering their S9 price if the Innosilicon comes close to it in price or performance to stay competitive. This will have to be near the price of an S9 to have decent sales at all.

We already know the price in bulk ($1600/100 MOQ), but resellers will definitely markup the price. The question is how much it will cost for us and what Bitmain will do in response- they’ll probably lower the price of the S9 further as aforementioned (S9i 14TH/S is currently at $1050 with PSU).

Huh? At current 1600 price, S9 is already far more competitive, especially with coupons. Getting 80% more hashrate is alot better than 10% more efficiency.
Go ahead and crunch your numbers.

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My moderation standards have not changed in many years as moderator here but I'm not the only moderator.

As for this mining hardware, specifically I'm contracted by MyRig for the driver to the HalongMiner T1 and have nothing to do with Innosilicon directly.

yea...was talking with Gordon at Consensus this week and he was saying all their driver work is done by luke.

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May 27, 2018, 01:13:56 PM
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Huh? At current 1600 price, S9 is already far more competitive, especially with coupons. Getting 80% more hashrate is alot better than 10% more efficiency.
Go ahead and crunch your numbers.

this... I pretty much lost my shirt trying to go w/ halong I can't imagine innosilicon being anything worthwhile to anyone at the price they're trying to hawk these for

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May 27, 2018, 02:13:03 PM
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this... I pretty much lost my shirt trying to go w/ halong I can't imagine innosilicon being anything worthwhile to anyone at the price they're trying to hawk these for

If they were smart they could compete with a two year warranty.

But 1600 for 17th vs 1780 for 28th. Is a big edge for bitmain .


Of the three out there Avalon is best for me due to the long warranty.
My power deal means I can not lose unless the gear breaks.
So I look for gear with best warranty

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May 27, 2018, 06:04:27 PM
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Innosilicon hasn't been too bad to work with but other manufacturers are much, much easier. Take this perspective with a grain of salt as we have only been placing orders with them for a week or so but seems routine thus far and shipping confirms are coming as expected.   

In agreement though that a 17th/s unit is pretty irrelevant in market, unless extremely competitive in price with current asics. More excited for more announcements and improved efficiencies. It would be nice if manufacturers took a more traditional approach to wholesale pricing but we can't expect that to change anytime soon.

Where did you all see the MOQ listing? I can forward this to our web and see if their wanting to list for group buys but I think we all can agree there might not be much interest.

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