17.2TH/s, 1570W Innosilicon announces the most powerful and efficient BTC Miner

[philipma1957]

You definitely need to cut back on your caffeine intake for awhile...going to give yourself a heart attack.

AsicBoost is a joke, period.   And by no means am I pro Bitmain.   Innovation is great, however AsicBoost isn't the right answer.   

What makes it a joke?

[minefarmbuy]

Innovation is what it is. There's no right or wrong.

Regardless, transparency is a best practice in any good business. It might be pompous to assume that people actually know what their buying but then you'll always be disappointed by people in any regard and is why you shouldn't assume people know anything.

I'm in favor of advertised hashrate should be achievable in any pool. If you're a company trying to drive AB it would be best to market: "x ths/y ths w/AB" so to speak. I don't feel there's any real deception happening that's just a matter of perception/experience.

We'll see how this asic does as we listed it a few days ago. Price is to high for market with proven hardware out there, actually all of Inno's products seem inflated and their shipping prices are pretty extreme.

1.7k usd with shipping per unit in 100 MOQ. Maybe if it were a 20 th/s unit.

Edit add:

And you know you're going to get hit with import/customs on a 100 unit order.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Regardless, transparency is a best practice in any good business. It might be pompous to assume that people actually know what their buying but then you'll always be disappointed by people in any regard and is why you shouldn't assume people know anything.

And that ^ is the one and only bitch I have about how Halong/Inno has been marketing these miners. To me it is rather like them selling a car and only later on saying, 'oh btw - these don't run on gasoline or diesel, they use LNG'.

Once LNG is widely available as a fuel, not much of a issue, just a surprise to the consumer. Once the majority of pools support AB it too does not matter but until then that is a critical bit of info that Halong and Inno are leaving out of the marketing spiels.

[philipma1957]

And that ^ is the one and only bitch I have about how Halong/Inno has been marketing these miners. To me it is rather like them selling a car and only later on saying, 'oh btw - these don't run on gasoline or diesel, they use LNG'.

Once LNG is widely available as a fuel, not much of a issue, just a surprise to the consumer. Once the majority of pools support AB it too does not matter but until then that is a critical bit of info that Halong and Inno are leaving out of the marketing spiels.

Yeah  when I took on the demo unit from myrig.

  I wanted 1 demo I got 5
  I thought it could mine anywhere.  It mines  at 2 major pools  and 4 other pools.
  With that  I still kept them and obligated myself to pay for 5 units of T1's (At you know who I am yet to pay for them)
  Mostly due to ck  doing firmware for the myrig/halong t1 models.

  Now as -ck says he is not doing the firmware for the t2 model. And neither myrig or inno_silicon offered to send a t2 for me to demo.
 But inno_silicon now has a bad price for the gear.  1700 with a 100 moq.  I can buy s9's way cheaper and I can buy avalon 841's way cheaper.
This is much like the s-5 war on the sp20  bitmain flooded the market with cheap units.

I believe the difference is  bitmain does not have an s-11 with asic boost  due to the move pulled off by inno_silicon and that they are flooding the market with gear now due to this issue.

[HagssFIN]

If -ck says that he is not co-operating with Inno,
does that mean that Inno is using his software without permission?

[itzazkrit]

You definitely need to cut back on your caffeine intake for awhile...going to give yourself a heart attack.

AsicBoost is a joke, period.   And by no means am I pro Bitmain.   Innovation is great, however AsicBoost isn't the right answer.   

I don't think AB is an answer to anything.  It's just an element of innovation as you said was great. We want advancements in hardware, so why not processes/software?  It's not like they are cheating, they just found a more efficient workflow for the end result.  Same as hardware.  What makes people think that anyone in their right $$ mind would ever throw away those kinds of efficacy gains in this space?  You are leaving money on the table.  AB or some form is here to stay forever whether you like it or not.  $ ALWAYS trumps people feelings......

[NotFuzzyWarm]

If -ck says that he is not co-operating with Inno,
does that mean that Inno is using his software without permission?

Unlikely. A while back someone said that it is Luke-Jr (the 'other' mining sw and pool operator guru, author of BFGminer and OP of Elgius) who is doing T2 work for Inno.

[Biffa]

If -ck says that he is not co-operating with Inno,
does that mean that Inno is using his software without permission?

Unlikely. A while back someone said that it is Luke-Jr (the 'other' mining sw and pool operator guru, author of BFGminer, OP of Slush) who is doing T2 work for Inno.

I thought he was involved in Elgius not Slush?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

If -ck says that he is not co-operating with Inno,
does that mean that Inno is using his software without permission?

Unlikely. A while back someone said that it is Luke-Jr (the 'other' mining sw and pool operator guru, author of BFGminer, OP of Slush) who is doing T2 work for Inno.

I thought he was involved in Elgius not Slush?

Not sure but Slush is what stuck in my head at the time.
edit: Yer right. per https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pooled_mining corrected post.

[-ck]

If -ck says that he is not co-operating with Inno,
does that mean that Inno is using his software without permission?

Unlikely. A while back someone said that it is Luke-Jr (the 'other' mining sw and pool operator guru, author of BFGminer and OP of Elgius) who is doing T2 work for Inno.

Cgminer is free software. They're allowed to use it provided they make public any modifications they make to the software themselves, if they release hardware containing such software to the public.

I suspect any claim that Luke-Jr is helping Innosilicon is just as likely as the claim that's going around that I'm helping Innosilicon.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Cgminer is free software. They're allowed to use it provided they make public any modifications they make to the software themselves, if they release hardware containing such software to the public.

I suspect any claim that Luke-Jr is helping Innosilicon is just as likely as the claim that's going around that I'm helping Innosilicon.

The only ref I have to Luke being involved is jstefanop's post on p1:

yea...was talking with Gordon at Consensus this week and he was saying all their driver work is done by luke.

[rifleman74]

I don't think AB is an answer to anything.  It's just an element of innovation as you said was great. We want advancements in hardware, so why not processes/software?  It's not like they are cheating, they just found a more efficient workflow for the end result.  Same as hardware.  What makes people think that anyone in their right $$ mind would ever throw away those kinds of efficacy gains in this space?  You are leaving money on the table.  AB or some form is here to stay forever whether you like it or not.  $ ALWAYS trumps people feelings......

It's only here until the next chip arrives.   Then it's on the back burner again.

[vincl]

I have access to a test unit. Hashing nicely at about 17.5-18TH/s on slushpool. Thats just 1h values, will do 24h testing soon

1580-1600W on wall

[rao916]

I have access to a test unit. Hashing nicely at about 17.5-18TH/s on slushpool. Thats just 1h values, will do 24h testing soon

1580-1600W on wall

I got mine also (Private order)   hashing like crazy  

[Inno_ASIC]

Record-breaking performance, Innosilicon announces the all new 10nm T2 BTC miner and ASIC

Innosilicon, the world leading one stop shop for crypto mining ASICs, announces the availability of Terminator 2 BTC Miners & ASICs with record breaking performance. Now in stock for mass shipment, T2 has typical hash rate 17.2TH/s (+-5%), and power consumption 1430W (+10%) at the wall, offering over 15% advantage in power efficiency over any market competition. Moreover, Inno development team will periodically issue future firmware updates to further improve the hash rate and efficiency on this T2 hardware platform to ensure lifetime competitiveness. This new 10nm T2 ASIC and miner, equipped with advanced dynamic frequency and temperature scaling for reliable performance under all conditions, once again, demonstrated Innosilicon's world-class engineering creativity to innovate the best low power ASIC product in the hot contested mining market. With the current sharp difficulty increase, this 15%+ power efficiency advantage greatly reduces the risk of mass deployment, offers much better ROI, longevity and resale value, while some less efficient miners, no matter how cheap, are vulnerable to becoming obsolete sooner than expected. In fact, many smart investors nowadays only acquire miners that can surely make it through the bear market because they know miners that can't cover the electric bill won't stand a chance to survive.



T2 miners are brand new, single tube, easy to install and plug & play, with easy-to-use interface developed by some top notch software developers with free farm management tools and free online consulting. T2 hardware is mass produced by a few world class ISO9000 qualified OEMs which offer worry-free 180 days parts/repair warranty around the world. T2 miners typically come with PSU integrated. The PSU non-integrated version is optional.

As a long term supporter for crypto decentralization, Innosilicon also makes its BTC terminator ASICs available for volume buyers. In fact, Innosilicon is the only major vendor to supply its best ASICs, among its offering of BTC/LTC/X11/XMC/SIA/DCR/GPU ASICs, to support the decentralization and miner DIY (Do-It Yourself) as we believe technology should be used to add values instead of creating market monopoly.

Please feel free to contact us for any of your demand, not matter in our list of offering or not. Innosiliocon will never stop optimizing its product and services for the mining community.

Thanks very much,

Innosilicon Marketing
www.innosilicon.com
sales@innosilicon.com

[wolverine5pl]

Overpriced as always without chance to roi

[philipma1957]

Overpriced as always without chance to roi

100 pieces at 1599 = 159900 plus 2100 shipping 162000 and 3% tax to USA comes to 166800

[tomerrrr]

Someone happen to know if it plays nicely with US 110 volt and if not, which PSU would work here?

[elokk]

Someone happen to know if it plays nicely with US 110 volt and if not, which PSU would work here?

If the firmware allows "efficiency mode" like the Halong T1 then it might be in a safe range to use 110v with EVGA OR Corsair 1600 watt PSU  assuming your home wiring and breaker can accommodate.

[minefarmbuy]

Overpriced as always without chance to roi

100 pieces at 1599 = 159900 plus 2100 shipping 162000 and 3% tax to USA comes to 166800

Innosilicons website is showing close to 11k usd shipping charge for MOQ. Per unit would be just over 1.7k including shipping. Adding customs in at 3% is roughly 175k usd for MOQ. Unless their shipping charge is not correct.