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November 09, 2018, 03:06:15 PM
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Power consumption of bitcoin is one of the reasons the enemies of bitcoin are after it. They are claiming that the environment is being harmed by the emission from bitcoin mining. I do not believe this and it is still working towards destroying of bitcoin. I still believe that miners should not give them the chance to kill bitcoin by looking for other energy sources for bitcoin mining.
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. Header-only clients like Bither trust that the majority of mining power is honest for the purposes of enforcing network rules such as the 21 million BTC limit. Full clients do not trust miners in this way.
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November 09, 2018, 03:29:10 PM
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Power consumption of bitcoin is one of the reasons the enemies of bitcoin are after it. They are claiming that the environment is being harmed by the emission from bitcoin mining. I do not believe this and it is still working towards destroying of bitcoin. I still believe that miners should not give them the chance to kill bitcoin by looking for other energy sources for bitcoin mining.
if what is meant is that large-scale mining on a company scale will be very influential, and this has become a debate in China. but if it is only involved in individuals, it does not have an impact and will still be environmentally friendly.

I don't see conspiracies here because the consumption of bitcoin mining continues to grow in accordance with the increasingly complicated blocksize.

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November 10, 2018, 01:44:35 AM
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I think the electricity used for digging bitcoin is negligible compared to some of today's inefficient technologies, and in many places it has used natural energy instead of digging bitcoins.

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November 10, 2018, 03:14:56 AM
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the GPU, graphics card unit for mining, has the biggest power consumption, like the 1 Rig have the 10 VGA, 1 VGA have 100W, so in 1 RIG it have 1500W, as we know 1500W is the biggest amount of the electricity power
yes, I have 3 rigs and that is true each Rig requires the electrical power of approximately 1500W. based on my experience, mine fortunately a little because the market dropped so that the exchange rate and income also declined. after making various considerations in facing the downturn, it is more convenient to conduct long-term trading and investment.
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November 10, 2018, 05:07:50 AM
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These sort of articles are very much one sided. For every argument the MSM puts up against digital currency, I can come up with 100 arguments on the contrary. What about the forests which are saved when we shift from physical cash to digital cash?
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November 10, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
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If you count all Coca Colas, that have to be cooled down to 5 C at this moment, you will find out that it uses 10 times more energy than Bitcoin mining.

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November 10, 2018, 01:56:22 PM
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If you count all Coca Colas, that have to be cooled down to 5 C at this moment, you will find out that it uses 10 times more energy than Bitcoin mining.

great response in such simple form

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November 10, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
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great response in such simple form

Only in the Bitcoin network produces about 50 quintillion operations per second. Based on each received us dollar, such calculations require 17 MJ of energy, this is two - three times more than the usual extraction of gold, platinum or rare earth metals. The only resource that requires energy greater than  this level , is aluminum, the electrolysis of which consumes really huge amounts of enegry.

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November 10, 2018, 09:02:07 PM
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Actually mining costs are one of the biggest problems of bitcoin. According to a new study of Oak Ridge Institute in Cincinnati, Ohio, the amount of energy required to “mine” one dollar’s worth of bitcoin is more than twice that required to mine the same value of copper, gold or platinum.
It also happens with other cryptos, but the amount of energy required is lower that the bitcoin does.
In the long term, the environmental impact of cryptocurrencies will vary not only with their market value, but also according to the adoption of new technologies.
I think new and advanced types of processor technology can lessen the need for power and this will be a big step to keep mining profitable.
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November 12, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
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Actually mining costs are one of the biggest problems of bitcoin. According to a new study of Oak Ridge Institute in Cincinnati, Ohio, the amount of energy required to “mine” one dollar’s worth of bitcoin is more than twice that required to mine the same value of copper, gold or platinum.
It also happens with other cryptos, but the amount of energy required is lower that the bitcoin does.
In the long term, the environmental impact of cryptocurrencies will vary not only with their market value, but also according to the adoption of new technologies.
I think new and advanced types of processor technology can lessen the need for power and this will be a big step to keep mining profitable.

I read that the price of bitcoin can not fall below a certain amount, since the high cost of electricity. I also know that the stellar blockchain is ecological ( energy-consuming ), that is realy ?
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November 12, 2018, 10:16:16 PM
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I have read much about bitcoin mining and i come to know that it is good for creation of coins but the cost of power consumption for it is more than coins you can earn so for bitcoin mining consumption power is high and it is the reason that most of the miners are shift to China because the electricity is cheap there so mining is good but cost should be keep in mind before doing any thing in life.

travelling to china will cost you more than your electric bills caused by bitcoin mining and also i heard that bitcoin mining is already banned in china . china is also a modern country with large population so i dont think that the cost for thier electricity is cheap when compared to other poorer countries like africa and india .

I have read much about bitcoin mining and i come to know that it is good for creation of coins

bitcoin mining only generate bitcoins but it cant be used for creating new coins , afaik there are services online that offers coin creation and i think their method is not totally related to mining .


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November 13, 2018, 12:00:10 AM
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If you count all Coca Colas, that have to be cooled down to 5 C at this moment, you will find out that it uses 10 times more energy than Bitcoin mining.

The problem with that argument is this.

The energy used to cool down those sodas is fairly constant from year to year and took multiple years to reach ,
It also won't require double or triple the amount next year to accomplish the same, in fact thru advancements in refrigeration technology it is probably a little less each year.
Also Bitcoin has achieved no where near the adoption of Coca Cola usage.

The problem is Bitcoin Continued Geometric Energy Growth Rate,
If Bitcoin Growth rate was stable or only grew by a few % per year it would be no problem as supply would be able to match demand.

Thinking a Product can continue wasting energy at a geometric rate without having a seriously damaging effect on the environment
and the other participants in energy usage, shows an amazing lack of foresight.

Bitcoin Energy waste is noting more than waste as their is no geometric increase in transaction performance only an excuse that the waste = security.
The Fact is the Waste itself is a security issue painting a target on every ASICS installation for a rogue military element with a few RPGs,
to easily destroy the entire bitcoin network in a few short hours. The remaining few ASICS would be unable to keep the bitcoin network running if said attack occurred.
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Since in many countries , a permit has to be applied for to draw that much electricity,
and approval or removal of said permits can be used as a way to manipulate owners of those ASICS Warehouse
into including or excluding transactions per the Government Officials requests.

Energy Waste does not increase security, it turns Bitcoin Security into a Glass shield that a few bricks from a few politicians can easily crack.

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November 13, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
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If you count all Coca Colas, that have to be cooled down to 5 C at this moment, you will find out that it uses 10 times more energy than Bitcoin mining.

Wow, somebody went and created a Reddit topic about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9vsoft/how_much_energy_does_it_take_to_cool_down_all/
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Anyhow seems you were a bit wrong, a few hundred times wrong:


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I disagree by more than 2 orders of magnitude with your calculation but the conclusion is about the same:
35 30 -> 5 degrees: 25 degrees
8 oz = 226 gram
1.7 Billion servings / day
Specific heat of water: 4.2 Joule/gram/degree (a well known number)
Heat per serving = 25 x 226 x 4.2 = 23730 Joule
Total heat = 23730 x 1700000000 = 40341000000000 Joule/day
1 kWh = 3600000 joule
Total heat = 40341000000000 / 3600000 = 11205833 kWh/day
1 TWh = 1000000000 kWh
Total heat = 11205833/1000000000 = 0.01120 TWh/day
Taking the COP of 2 into account, energy required is half (thanks user Watada) that.
Total heat consumption = 0.00560 TWh/day

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November 19, 2018, 04:19:53 AM
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Power consumption of bitcoin is one of the reasons the enemies of bitcoin are after it. They are claiming that the environment is being harmed by the emission from bitcoin mining. I do not believe this and it is still working towards destroying of bitcoin. I still believe that miners should not give them the chance to kill bitcoin by looking for other energy sources for bitcoin mining.
In fact, bitcoin mining does require enormous electricity. In Bitcoin transactions, it will be processed and validated by miners in the Bitcoin network. Whereas in mining it performs calculations and calculations called "hashes".
Hash operation is needed as a solution to complex mathematical algorithm solutions. If the miner is successful, he will get a number of new Bitcoin units (reward), plus a certain amount of transaction costs.
This mining process will guarantee system security in the Bitcoin network. According to Sebastian Deetman (a 2010 Leiden University Industrial Ecology graduate), the Bitcoin mining process consumes approximately 350 megawatts of electricity. That amount is equivalent to the electricity needs of 280,000 households in America
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