[Mods: NUKE 120 act] Commercial Spambots post and delete 1000s of posts per day

[LoyceV]

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I've downloaded the last page of [ANN][DEX-ICO] 🔥🔥CrypTollBooth - New Wallet with Exchange Connected [ICO!] 🔥🔥💰💰 302 times, with x seconds interval (x: I'm not going to post my timing information for spammers to read).

Thanks Mods for banning those bots! Interesting enough, without the bump bots there hasn't been any new post in that thread for 6 days.

I won't manually check my other list, most of the accounts have been banned, if some got away I'll catch them in their next run.

Banning them is the motivation I needed to continue my hunt, so prepare for more lists to nuke

I noticed 🔥[ANN][ICO] Seal - The Currency of Authenticity 💖 still fills with Brand new spammers, but they don't instantly delete their posts now. I wouldn't be surprised if the spambots adjusted the delay between posts in that thread.

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[LoyceV]

I made a new list of accounts to nuke. The "strike through" lines are from accounts that don't instantly delete their posts. My counter at the start of each line is off by 2 posts (sorry).

URL: [ANN] [BOUNTY] SUCHAPP 5G Instant Messaging Bounty Program

   -13.    1000                                                         Warfare
   -12.     997                                                         Fenderr
   -11.     500                                                         kmil91712
   -10.     500                                                         ethmylovee
    -9.     500                                                         caracso5831malabanan
    -8.     500                                                         chainguru12
    -7.     500                                                         riboku0105
    -6.     500                                                         icomarketing
    -5.     500                                                         Cryptonatureben
    -4.     500                                                         joletartare
    -3.     500                                                         icocheck
    -2.     500                                                         kriskarthik
Nuke please:
    -1.      29                                                         Diagonalig
     0.      28                                                         howareic
     1.      27                                                         anxield
     2.      26                                                         campyrone
     3.      24                                                         inlovestra
     4.      24                                                         happism
     5.      24                                                         taryradiant
     6.      23                                                         Dailiesas
     7.      23                                                         groupplield
     8.      23                                                         rozentral
     9.      23                                                         foxbridio
    10.      23                                                         regearna
    11.      22                                                         bilitech
    12.      22                                                         wundervewo
    13.      21                                                         wayzgigro
    14.      21                                                         HanChilledXx
    15.      21                                                         glamourpeach
    16.      21                                                         greytriale
    17.      21                                                         nayborrun
    18.      21                                                         fiftera
    19.      21                                                         heavenvital
    20.      20                                                         runningeryl
    21.      20                                                         shmoeraventinny
    22.      20                                                         wetlakhoura
    23.      20                                                         midrota
    24.      20                                                         kingkiddo
    25.      20                                                         antatech
    26.      19                                                         Dataland
    27.      19                                                         heligale
    28.      19                                                         sacetron
    29.       1                                                         Godsinocool

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In this post in the Portuguese section, only Bot posts something. And they also post on other similar topics. No one writes the way they're writing, so it's clear they're using a translator. What, by the rules, is forbidden in the local sections.

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

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[TheBeardedBaby]

Let me list one here, I was about to report it but deleted the only post he had.
naybormann
proof

I think we need a report button on the profile page in case there are no posts. Otherwise I have to bother the mods with PMs or put it in the list.

edited:
one more
bilitech
proof
two more :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2167876
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2167867

Updated

[LoyceV]

A few more:

URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3616790.660 : the first 10 posts are spam too, but they're not deleted.

     0.     324                                                         icooker
     1.     319                                                         Oleg_93
     2.     301                                                         Poy.Jon
     3.     284                                                         Timur.brnd
     4.     238                                                         Kostya.bom
     5.     193                                                         Valya_87
     6.     133                                                         VityalyaVik
     7.     115                                                         gerymakgyaer
     8.     115                                                         Anton_p
     9.      50                                                         Vladik24
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    10.      14                                                         Latinadops
    11.      14                                                         shadesviking
    12.      14                                                         grandglimmer
    13.      13                                                         deepnchuma
    14.      13                                                         interiorth
    15.      13                                                         wetvash
    16.      13                                                         wowsaway
    17.      13                                                         diagonalfairy
    18.      12                                                         Cristics
    19.      12                                                         midnightstud
    20.      12                                                         Retroomar
    21.      12                                                         readaudience
    22.      11                                                         minteachem
    23.      11                                                         Proudgery
    24.      11                                                         lunatic2free
    25.      11                                                         cerqantar
    26.      11                                                         vasonite
    27.      11                                                         quviser
    28.      11                                                         jeansluda
    29.      11                                                         VodXanDark
    30.      11                                                         brainyomaha
    31.      10                                                         castrama
    32.      10                                                         chelsae
    33.      10                                                         invadertricky
    34.      10                                                         divisionco
    35.      10                                                         Katranthal
    36.      10                                                         tutenedi
    37.      10                                                         hiverttere
    38.       8                                                         sorrienter
    39.       8                                                         wavesysis
    40.       8                                                         Kitty.Tanya



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   -17.     311                                                         nhaila
   -16.     311                                                         necromastery
   -15.     311                                                         joey alexander
   -14.     311                                                         anafiene
   -13.     311                                                         Qumiu
   -12.     311                                                         bitcrescent1
   -11.     311                                                         xetofficial
   -10.     311                                                         NohchiVuso
    -9.     311                                                         SD1907
    -8.     311                                                         cryptocinderblock
    -7.     311                                                         Sheentaide
    -6.     311                                                         Stephanie2608
    -5.     311                                                         weisner
    -4.     311                                                         Devourer
    -3.     311                                                         sacskate
    -2.     311                                                         blockchain-man
    -1.     311                                                         gogok
     0.     309                                                         zgrdyg
Please nuke:
     1.      19                                                         sacetron
     2.      17                                                         fiftera
     3.      16                                                         groupplield
     4.      16                                                         anxield
     5.      16                                                         shmoeraventinny
     6.      16                                                         HanChilledXx
     7.      16                                                         inlovestra
     8.      16                                                         nayborrun
     9.      16                                                         heavenvital
    10.      15                                                         runningeryl
    11.      15                                                         wetlakhoura
    12.      15                                                         Dataland
    13.      15                                                         heligale
    14.      15                                                         greytriale
    15.      15                                                         Diagonalig
    16.      14                                                         Dailiesas
    17.      14                                                         bilitech
    18.      14                                                         rozentral
    19.      14                                                         wayzgigro
    20.      14                                                         glamourpeach
    21.      14                                                         midrota
    22.      14                                                         howareic
    23.      14                                                         kingkiddo
    24.      14                                                         antatech
    25.      14                                                         foxbridio
    26.      13                                                         wundervewo
    27.      12                                                         campyrone
    28.      12                                                         happism
    29.      12                                                         taryradiant
    30.      12                                                         regearna



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    -8.     612                                                         maaldaz
    -7.     306                                                         gobisirom
    -6.     306                                                         Teraboy
    -5.     306                                                         kavishka
    -4.     306                                                         henjhou
    -3.     306                                                         dadaner
    -2.     306                                                         feby
    -1.     306                                                         wack slacker
     0.     304                                                         MaestroProject
     1.     139                                                         ozing
Please nuke:
     2.      31                                                         tinopuser
     3.      14                                                         Givelecada
     4.      13                                                         allyeditor
     5.      13                                                         Sheervionic
     6.      13                                                         croison
     7.      13                                                         venuechiari
     8.      13                                                         insighted
     9.      13                                                         skiertalent
    10.      12                                                         rockstomaro
    11.      12                                                         exclusivetheborg
    12.      12                                                         bankumba
    13.      12                                                         Getrvinri
    14.      11                                                         ninjafunzippo
    15.      11                                                         actuallyactually
    16.      11                                                         parkensetc
    17.      11                                                         gameralemax
    18.      11                                                         algottec
    19.      11                                                         naybormann
    20.      11                                                         famousglace
    21.      11                                                         ledesysde
    22.      10                                                         chronospinwasabi
    23.      10                                                         Theborgylan
    24.      10                                                         logoswill
    25.      10                                                         buteolagi
    26.      10                                                         midlasc
    27.      10                                                         Fourbamade
    28.       9                                                         snoopdarkten
    29.       9                                                         mountainzero
    30.       9                                                         thebell
    31.       8                                                         Jewelliters

[hilariousetc]

Anyone noticed this bot spam in Off Topic recently?



I think they're related to the Russian bump bot services. Probably farming accounts getting ready to use. Pretty easy to spot though giving the naming of them:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2161508     Scott Spiegel     May 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2105501     Robin Smith     May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2107797 Kathryn Lentz May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2162230     Marisa Summers     May 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2105481     Mark Clem May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2161478 Albert Cornelius     May 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098397 Davis Vanbuskirk May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2162962     Noah David May 29, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125721     Letitia Bolden     May 16, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2126601 Barbara Pieper May 16, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2108071     William Jeffers     May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2108082     Kayla Schmidt May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2158933     Med Johnson     May 27, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098383 Madelyn Jackson May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098408     Rebecca May     May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2107000     Alberto Del Rio May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2105580 Peggy Almaraz     May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2099190     Loraine Stewart May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2107802     Eileen Johnson May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2127951     Ruby Erickson May 17, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125759     Edwin King May 16, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2151070     Lillian Keely May 24, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098408 Rebecca May     May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2162161     Carolyn Hendricks May 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2162949      Jordan Zane May 29, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2105387     Carolyn Roberts May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098383 Madelyn Jackson May 09, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2111229     Lillie Bowman May 13, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098455     Angel Roldan May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2108102 Roger Jackson     May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098869 Vanessa Gravel May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2104456     Russell B Martin     May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2098347     Simon Peterson May 09, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2105076 Christa Wrigley     May 11, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2100852 Karen Stearns May 10, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2151078     James Singer May 24, 2018

They're copy and pasting from the looks of it:

A man starts with good health, but he is not happy with it. Man sacrifices his health to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present. The result being that he does not live in the present or the future. He lives as if he is never going to die and then dies having never lived at all

He’s got a great idea of how to disrupt his industry. I think his idea is great. Drew and I had coffee to discuss his options.

[alani123]

Look at this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4438289.3780

Filled with 'joined' posts by new accounts. Those posts make no sense and aren't serving as proof for any part of the campaign, they're clrearly using them as a distraction to keep bumping the thread. 190+ pages of spam in 5 days...

Edit: Another bounty that seems to be doing the same
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4418531.2480

Edit2:
Announcement thread that appears to be utilizing spam bumping

Lots of one liners from new accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3213051.2360

[seoincorporation]

I've been thinking that something like a shadow ban could be useful in these situations

A shadow ban works only on the account you use, the spammer who has 35 accounts in his bot is unlikely to read the forum from any one of those accounts. Unless you mean their current bots won't get a banned-error and don't realize they need to switch to the next batch of accounts > that would work!

I'm sure mitchell could hook up his bot to automatically flag these phrases

What bot is this? This is the first time I hear about it.

I would love a captcha that would make them read the rules on the forum, like typing the second word, the last character or the first of a random rule around here.  

I love it! It won't stop bots, but it will teach humans how to behave on the forum.

I agree with (mostly) all that has been said.
But, to be honest, from a couple of weeks I have begun to think that the best solution can be:
1.- Newbie's jail. Yes, I don't completely like it, but, given all the spams, newcomers, etc, I think this is the moment to implement that again. The forum is becoming a newbies-spam-fest and the place for "forever Juniors" because it is easy to create an infinite number of new accounts and just use the ctrl+C and ctrl+V buttons in your computer. If newbies can only post in one board, probably it will change it.
2.- 5 Merits to become Jr. Member. Why? When you become JR, under my proposal, you will be able to go out to the jail. If you have to earn 5 merits in order to do so, maybe the Jrs will have some quality. Just take a look at all those "forever juniors" we have in the forum: people with hundreds of posts and no merit...

Of course, it can make the merit farming and trade more "popular", but also easier to detect, for all the newbies will be in a jail, and the ones receiving non-deserving merits will be easier to discover.

This is just an opinion. I'm tired. I'm tired of just seeing how each day the newbies and Forever Juniors come and spam and spam the forum, endlessly.

I think in this jail, also we maybe will find some deserving merits newbies and ease the work to some concerned sources.

[bitart]

+1 for the newbie jail, but I think it won't come back (neither as a merit jail)
If the newbie jail would come back, it could raise the prices of the jr. accounts (with or without merits) so the 5 merit seems fine to escape the jail, because in this situation, the thousands of jr. member account without merits would become worthless...
In order to be able to handle the situation that this change can cause, the beginner's board (or any board which will be dedicate to let the newbies spam post there) should have more mods in the beginning and more merit sources. If we concentrate the newbies into one place, mods of the other boards will have less work, so they can help in the beginner section also.
Also, mods of the beginner board should give no mercy to those who copypaste or spam, because account farmers would still try to raise their activity in the beginning...
I know there's no solution that will be good for everyone, but something should be done, the sooner the better...

[alani123]

Anyone here with more technical knowledge and insight that could be able to speculate as to whether those spamming efforts might be automated?
My feeling is that it might be a possibility. It seems to me like threads will shoot back up at the top as soon as they leave the front page and it feels like this is done in automation.

I know that there are limitation in place already like a time limit. But the time limit can't exactly help in posting not being automated... Currently those accounts are being created and start posting faster than the mods can purge them. When spam responses to each spam-promoted thread are shy of 500 per day it would be hard for a handful of humans to keep deleting accounts and moreover pointless if the spammers can utilize newly created accounts.

My suggestions for the simpler solutions I can come up with:
1. Remove pumping powers from new accounts.
2. Implement reCaptcha for each post to new accounts posting in frequently spammed sub-forums.

#1 Would no longer allow spammers to use new accounts for their effors. Anyone would be able to post anything but it wouldn't have any value in 'bumping'
#2 Would make it harder to automate posting. I can't be sure if anyone has managed to automate posting on bitcointalk but it would be a countermeasure for reassurance.

[bitart]

Anyone here with more technical knowledge and insight that could be able to speculate as to whether those spamming efforts might be automated?
...

You can be 100% sure that there are automated spam/bump bots on the forum...

My suggestions for the simpler solutions I can come up with:
1. Remove pumping powers from new accounts.
....

If you mean about the removing of the pumping power that if a newbie posts in a thread it won't jump on the top of the list (if it's sorted by latest post), this can be a solution.

Unfortunately, this would impact the 'normal' newbie accounts too, and they won't get help (or it will be real hard to ask for help) if they can't get the topic to the top of the list with an important question posted in the topic.
A kind of solution could be not to implement this feature on the beginner's board, to let newbies ask for help, but restrict newbies (even jr.members also) on the other boards from bumping...

[alani123]

If you mean about the removing of the pumping power that if a newbie posts in a thread it won't jump on the top of the list (if it's sorted by latest post), this can be a solution.

Yes, exactly!

Unfortunately, this would impact the 'normal' newbie accounts too, and they won't get help (or it will be real hard to ask for help) if they can't get the topic to the top of the list with an important question posted in the topic.
A kind of solution could be not to implement this feature on the beginner's board, to let newbies ask for help, but restrict newbies (even jr.members also) on the other boards from bumping...

Yes, there could be exceptions for certain boards.

[DarkStar_]

My suggestions for the simpler solutions I can come up with:
1. Remove pumping powers from new accounts.
....

If you mean about the removing of the pumping power that if a newbie posts in a thread it won't jump on the top of the list (if it's sorted by latest post), this can be a solution.

Unfortunately, this would impact the 'normal' newbie accounts too, and they won't get help (or it will be real hard to ask for help) if they can't get the topic to the top of the list with an important question posted in the topic.
A kind of solution could be not to implement this feature on the beginner's board, to let newbies ask for help, but restrict newbies (even jr.members also) on the other boards from bumping...

I think putting that restriction only in Announcements (Altcoins), Tokens (Altcoins) and Bounties (Altcoins) should be enough, at least initially. There's no reason to restrict them from boards such as Technical Support, or Development and Technical Discussion.

[seoincorporation]

I think putting that restriction only in Announcements (Altcoins), Tokens (Altcoins) and Bounties (Altcoins) should be enough, at least initially. There's no reason to restrict them from boards such as Technical Support, or Development and Technical Discussion.

Possibly, but they can ask whatever they need in their "newcomers" board. Anyway, seems a great solution to the spam problem: Newbie jail (it can be in more than just one board) and 5 merits required to Jrs.
The point about having them in just one board is based on the willing of easing the work to mods and merit sources. From time to time you can find a great newbie making his/her best, so maybe the "newcomers" board can be a great place for merit sources to look for them.
Besides, as told before, it will ease the work of many other moderators. The Bitcoin Discussion board, as well as the Politics & Society, Marketplace or the Altcoin board,  are a mess. You just can't enjoy a good debate anymore in those ones, even if you try to start one soon will become a spam-fest.

Something needs to be done. The forum is decaying too fast.

[alani123]

I think putting that restriction only in Announcements (Altcoins), Tokens (Altcoins) and Bounties (Altcoins) should be enough, at least initially. There's no reason to restrict them from boards such as Technical Support, or Development and Technical Discussion.

Possibly, but they can ask whatever they need in their "newcomers" board. Anyway, seems a great solution to the spam problem: Newbie jail (it can be in more than just one board) and 5 merits required to Jrs.
The point about having them in just one board is based on the willing of easing the work to mods and merit sources. From time to time you can find a great newbie making his/her best, so maybe the "newcomers" board can be a great place for merit sources to look for them.
Besides, as told before, it will ease the work of many other moderators. The Bitcoin Discussion board, as well as the Politics & Society, Marketplace or the Altcoin board,  are a mess. You just can't enjoy a good debate anymore in those ones, even if you try to start one soon will become a spam-fest.

Something needs to be done. The forum is decaying too fast.

If we're going to have a newbie jail with merit I believe it would be better to have a limit based on 'receive merit by x people' instead of just 'receive x merit'.

[seoincorporation]

If we're going to have a newbie jail with merit I believe it would be better to have a limit based on 'receive merit by x people' instead of just 'receive x merit'.

Surely it will prevent farming, but to implement that is kind of difficult, isn't it? Anyway, I don't see it coming. Merits, for the moment, are helping on the ranking-up matter for those who don't deserve to rank-up, but each day some new boards become a spam-fest. Beginners&Help is almost all about bounties now, as well as so many others. Even here in Meta most of the new topics are about merits, rank-up, or scam persecution (necessary as hell, given the situation), but, I don't know, I think we need to come back to good discussions and to help the people interested in knowledge instead of some bucks from their airdrops.
Anyway, I don't see any action to be taken, at least for the moment, sadly.

[xtraelv]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437670.540 is a classic case of spam bumping to keep the thread up top.

[LoyceV]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437670.540 is a classic case of spam bumping to keep the thread up top.

It's deleted by now.

The thread title doesn't apply anymore since theymos' changes, but the spam still continues elsewhere, so a bump.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Try searching for this:

Code:

a very

This is Cyrillic "a" so you can just copy what I wrote.
You can see what the hompgraph cheaters are doing now

PS is there a modlog history database?I used BPIP before but now there's nothing available.

[LoyceV]

Try searching for this:

Code:

a very

No results, but I only have patrol-files downloaded for less than 24 hours.

PS is there a modlog history database?I used BPIP before but now there's nothing available.

Apart from Vod's site, I wouldn't know where else to look.