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March 16, 2019, 03:51:52 AM
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It is already being manipulated by whales, media FUDs, where there is market there is manipulation.

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March 17, 2019, 04:09:08 PM
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It is already being manipulated by whales, media FUDs, where there is market there is manipulation.

Well i kinda agree with you there since it's not a question of "could it be manipulated" anymore. Manipulation is happening and we're at times at the mercy of the whims of big players. You just have to learn how to ride these manipulations and make profits when these whales do.

 
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March 17, 2019, 04:35:01 PM
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Btc cant be manipulated like wall street the reason is bitcoin is decentralized and transparent it cant be manipulated like other stocks
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March 17, 2019, 05:06:14 PM
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Btc cant be manipulated like wall street the reason is bitcoin is decentralized and transparent it cant be manipulated like other stocks

Being decentralized does not means that it cannot be manipulated anymore  .  bitcoin can be manipulated by crypto whales  .  though i dont know if what is the difference between wall street manipulation and crypto manipulation  .

exchanges and whales are the one manipulating the price.

Exchanges dont manipulate the price . they only list what is based on the exact data or infos about the crypto coins  .   some says there are exchanges that manipulate the volume of the coins but those exchange are crappy and seems shady .
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March 17, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
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It is already being manipulated by whales, media FUDs, where there is market there is manipulation.

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March 17, 2019, 06:23:53 PM
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Btc is already manipulated by big whales.

If btc will be present on Wall Street one day, then manipulation will be there at another level. Huge whales will be anywhere, so price will not be "free of manipulation" no matter what.

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March 17, 2019, 06:47:10 PM
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there are many whales in the community and they are the on who can manupilate the market.
If you have a hundred BTC and you want to sell it at rush, then it will be a big problem then. that is manipulation!
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March 17, 2019, 07:11:52 PM
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According to Wyckoff's theory, the manipulation refers to the Market Makers, Strong Hands, if we take it to the cryptocurrency market it would be the whales, but it is not a totally directed manipulation in one direction, as there are the bearish whales and the bullish whales, where there is a constant battle to prove who has the most strength in the market.

Today, we have seen that the Bitcoin graphic has a student structure since 2009, where according to Wyckoff's theory it shows the Accumulation and Distribution stages. At present we can make studies of technical analysis and fundamental analysis, then, the Strong Hands , they are the ones that decide the direction of the market, and for now until they do not accumulate 70 or 80% of the bitcoins, they will not be able to have the bitcoin their bullish.

According to Tom Williams, author of the book Master the Markets, there is talk about Institutional money, which refers to a possible manipulation of the market, but why manipulation? Simply because they are the ones who have enough money to move the market to the levels they decide to carry.

If we make a parenthesis, in the Stock Market, there are also these movements, which, many times, are not seen as manipulation but as an injection of institutional money.

Then, making a small analogy, that manipulation is of the people or institutions under which, with large amounts of money are able to move the market, and if they exist, being that most of the traders in the cryptocurrency market do not have Such a high power of money to move the market as they can. Then it will be a good term to call these movements manipulation?

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March 17, 2019, 07:41:32 PM
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To my opinion Bitcoin could be manipulated in some extend although not that big as Wall street. Whales already have their role in Bitcoin manipulation whether we like it or not but as I said crypto market is not such corupted as fiat and I think it will never be. It can't be fully controlled and manipulated because cryptocurrencies are not functioning that way that would allow to individuals or to institutions that take over it.

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March 17, 2019, 10:19:33 PM
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Of course it can. There are so many manipulations that goes on exchange platforms which I surveyed noticed several times. All these are actions of bot and it has a bad effect for those who keep coins on exchange. Manipulation is not far-fetched in crypto and I believe everyone should be aware of this and be careful in their dealing on exchange platforms.
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March 18, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
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Holding crypto assets in exchanges is not a good practice because there are many manipulators in exchanges who tries to change the market price for there advantage which destroy the balance of a currency and make losses for honest investors but still cryptocurrency investment is a profitable one if done with patience and proper understanding   

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March 18, 2019, 08:28:36 PM
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Btc is already manipulated by big whales.

If btc will be present on Wall Street one day, then manipulation will be there at another level. Huge whales will be anywhere, so price will not be "free of manipulation" no matter what.

i hate to say it but it's true.

people say wall street is waiting for custody solutions backing regulated markets and what that really means is this: they are waiting for paper bitcoins.

there is this attitude that bitcoin is transparent, therefore it can't be manipulated. and while we may be able to transparently see the registered bitcoins in bakkt's vault for example, we will not be able to see bakkt's books where it will be rehypothecating (using and lending for its own purposes) those bitcoins. like all other assets used as collateral in physically settled markets, the supply of paper bitcoins will be diluted this way. it will be just like the paper gold markets, where multiple gold certificate holders all hold claims on the same piece of physical gold.

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March 18, 2019, 09:53:21 PM
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As we know, the battered price of BTC that occurred throughout 2018 is one of the effects of the act of manipulation, no doubt the series of corrections have finally contributed greatly to the problems that investors must face or those who adhere to the HODL technique.

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March 18, 2019, 11:20:57 PM
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bitcoin cannot be manipulated because the data is interconnected between one server and another ... but the possibility of crime is always there, we are obliged to always be careful about everything.

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March 19, 2019, 01:01:07 AM
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The value of every asset is open to be manipulation and speculation. When it comes to BTC, I think bitcoiners show their strong resistence in 2018 to manipulations. Most of them kept their patience and didn't lose their belief to BTC. Even though some people remember the year of 2018 as a bad year for bitcoiners, I am not one of those. I think previous year must be remembered as a year of victory against to manipulators.
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March 19, 2019, 02:26:31 AM
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Yes, it's easy to manipulate especially now that there are many centralized exchanges. I hate centralized exchange because you are not the one holding your funds or private keys for every coin you have in your centralized exchange account. The decentralized exchange is the solution for every manipulation happening in crypto.

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March 19, 2019, 07:24:43 PM
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Yes, it's easy to manipulate especially now that there are many centralized exchanges. I hate centralized exchange because you are not the one holding your funds or private keys for every coin you have in your centralized exchange account. The decentralized exchange is the solution for every manipulation happening in crypto.

decentralized exchanges are just as easy to manipulate. even easier actually because they have thin order books.

why would it matter who is holding the private keys? the issue is whether large traders are engaging in pump-and-dumps and trapping gullible investors with their shady "pump groups" and "signal groups". this can happen on centralized or decentralized exchanges---doesn't matter one bit.

centralized exchanges have much better liquidity, so they tend to lead price. that's why they are more important for manipulation. if decentralized exchanges had more liquidity, the manipulation would occur there.

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March 20, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
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It is already being manipulated by whales, media FUDs, where there is market there is manipulation.

Well i kinda agree with you there since it's not a question of "could it be manipulated" anymore. Manipulation is happening and we're at times at the mercy of the whims of big players. You just have to learn how to ride these manipulations and make profits when these whales do.
Of course that kind of thing is very possible, we have experienced very crazy changes several times, prices can go to $19k and down to $3k, of course it also contributes to manipulation, wall street has capital that is arguably infinite so they might just do it..
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March 20, 2019, 09:27:18 PM
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Manipulation can be done but end result will just run for a short period of time. Since the price is all dependent on the dependent, someone who has all the resources could buy great volume in a higher price which will let them set the price higher. Another thing would be whales can do sudden changes, most who has bigger and larger volume has the ability to change the game.
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March 20, 2019, 10:55:38 PM
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I have heard so many things about this and then at a point I felt sad and pitiful for some people that are always in the ocean of this manipulation process. Anyways the manipulation game is real and it’s being played at will by some set. Everyone should be careful not to lose their bitcoin because of greed or trying to catch some pumps.

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