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[BitcoinCasino.org]

Sad to see Seals With Clubs go. It appears that player funds are safe at least. We just attempted a cashout, full details here: http://www.bitcoincasino.org/blog/bitcoin-poker-site-seals-with-clubs-closes-bitcoin-not-to-blame

We will post an update once we learn more, hopefully with good news.

Payment just hit the our wallet. I can confirm that withdrawals are working.

congrats....although about 30 people already confirmed this

Yeah, but that was not the case when we submitted the cashout request just over 12 hours ago, and I promised to give an update and did just that.

Anyway, I think we are all happy that this wasn't just another hit and run in the bitcoin world.

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[Smooth0ne]

How can I request a cashout from seals? website is down and I can not log into the software...

[NLNico]

Website should work? You will see some story above and a cashout form below.

[wwwin]

hey everyone! Grindabit is sad to see Seals going down. We know there will be lots of players switching over to Betcoin now, so I wanted to let you know what we have to offer. We have an exclusive deal with Betcoin that allows us to offer a Rake Chase with up to 25% rakeback, and anyone can join! If you want more info, click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676776.0

This rakeback does not affect any other earnings you get, so be sure to take advantage!

poor form chazley.  Would have expected better from such a long term partner...

Not poor form, you guys totally didnt give any information of relevence in 9 days, then release a page and a half wall of text that basically says nothing.  

Poor form on seals.

And they hint that the domain is in danger of being seized yet the new site is also .eu domain instead of .ag for Antigua. If the new seals is gonna do the same, allowing  players from  the illegal  states, WA, NV, NJ, etc., than what is the difference  as far as getting seized? It would be da javu all over sgain, as Yogi Berra would say. Why don't they register a seals domain for Antigua, which last time I checked are available.  
So they say no software issue yet they are in perpetual  jeopardy. How can hardware be in perpetual jeopardy? Just move  it to new physical address. This whole thing is very convoluted. The only thing they have done rigth is allowing  withdrawals.  They should come out and say what the problem was.

Pretty sure the problem was they were threatened by doj type outfit. Anything else would be possible to overcome. They all live in the states most likely which is why it was a legitimate threat to make them snap fold. Nothing else makes sense. Harder to threaten and prosecute someone living in antigua though.

If it was law enforcement it would not have been the DOJ. They have pretty much decided to leave legality  and enforcement to the individual  States as they issued an opinion that the Wire Act does not apply to online poker and seals was not running a casino. It could have been Nevada state action since it was illegal  in NV and was competing with  NVs legalized online gambling. Also Micon lived or was in NV all the time so he was flaunting it.  But how does that make an .eu domain  be in perpetual jeopardy?. Not even the Feds have ever seized an .eu domain and the new domain is .eu instead of .ag. It would have Micon the promoter??? in jeopardy not the foreign domain. An example would be that the feds are after Calvin Ayre but bovada.lv keeps operating.

Bottom line, they need to clarify this because some people believe it was leaked inside info happening and others  believe it was law enforcement. It behooves to clear this up for the sake of the new site. Until they do the speculation will continue and that can be worse than what really happened.

[NLNico]

hey everyone! Grindabit is sad to see Seals going down. We know there will be lots of players switching over to Betcoin now, so I wanted to let you know what we have to offer. We have an exclusive deal with Betcoin that allows us to offer a Rake Chase with up to 25% rakeback, and anyone can join! If you want more info, click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676776.0

This rakeback does not affect any other earnings you get, so be sure to take advantage!

poor form chazley.  Would have expected better from such a long term partner...

Not poor form, you guys totally didnt give any information of relevence in 9 days, then release a page and a half wall of text that basically says nothing. 

Poor form on seals.

And they hint that the domain is in danger of being seized yet the new site is also .eu domain instead of .ag for Antigua. If the new seals is gonna do the same, allowing  players from  the illegal  states, WA, NV, NJ, etc., than what is the difference  as far as getting seized? It would be da javu all over sgain, as Yogi Berra would say. Why don't they register a seals domain for Antigua, which last time I checked are available. 
So they say no software issue yet they are in perpetual  jeopardy. How can hardware be in perpetual jeopardy? Just move  it to new physical address. This whole thing is very convoluted. The only thing they have done rigth is allowing  withdrawals.  They should come out and say what the problem was.

Pretty sure the problem was they were threatened by doj type outfit. Anything else would be possible to overcome. They all live in the states most likely which is why it was a legitimate threat to make them snap fold. Nothing else makes sense. Harder to threaten and prosecute someone living in antigua though.

If it was law enforcement it would not be the DOJ. They have pretty much decided to leave legality  and enforcement to the individual  States as they issued an opinion that the Wire Act does not apply to online poker and seals was not running a casino. It could have Nevada stste action since it was illegal  in NV and was competing with  NVs legalized online gambling. Also Micon lived or was in NV all the time so he was flaunting it.  But how does that make an .eu domain  be in perpetual jeopardy?. Not eeven the Feds have ever seized an .eu domain the new domain is .eu instead of .ag.

Did you guys watch this video already? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaD8ion8iGI Answers in video.

[TippingPoint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaD8ion8iGI

11 Feb 8AM
many guys with guns
broke down door
search warrant
Nevada Gaming Commission
handcuffed Micon
next 8 hours they took his computers and camera
same time frame, something happened at the Seals server in Romania, not clear what
remainder of Seals management team quit
Bitcoins are safe
will start SwCPoker.eu soon
they knew Micon is non-violent, and they knew there was a 2 year-old kid in the house
not charged with any crime
was already planning a family trip to Antigua
does not want to raise kid where creativity is met with guns and handcuffs

[donk4u]

hey everyone! Grindabit is sad to see Seals going down. We know there will be lots of players switching over to Betcoin now, so I wanted to let you know what we have to offer. We have an exclusive deal with Betcoin that allows us to offer a Rake Chase with up to 25% rakeback, and anyone can join! If you want more info, click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676776.0

This rakeback does not affect any other earnings you get, so be sure to take advantage!

poor form chazley.  Would have expected better from such a long term partner...

Not poor form, you guys totally didnt give any information of relevence in 9 days, then release a page and a half wall of text that basically says nothing.  

Poor form on seals.

And they hint that the domain is in danger of being seized yet the new site is also .eu domain instead of .ag for Antigua. If the new seals is gonna do the same, allowing  players from  the illegal  states, WA, NV, NJ, etc., than what is the difference  as far as getting seized? It would be da javu all over sgain, as Yogi Berra would say. Why don't they register a seals domain for Antigua, which last time I checked are available.  
So they say no software issue yet they are in perpetual  jeopardy. How can hardware be in perpetual jeopardy? Just move  it to new physical address. This whole thing is very convoluted. The only thing they have done rigth is allowing  withdrawals.  They should come out and say what the problem was.

Pretty sure the problem was they were threatened by doj type outfit. Anything else would be possible to overcome. They all live in the states most likely which is why it was a legitimate threat to make them snap fold. Nothing else makes sense. Harder to threaten and prosecute someone living in antigua though.

If it was law enforcement it would not have been the DOJ. They have pretty much decided to leave legality  and enforcement to the individual  States as they issued an opinion that the Wire Act does not apply to online poker and seals was not running a casino. It could have been Nevada state action since it was illegal  in NV and was competing with  NVs legalized online gambling. Also Micon lived or was in NV all the time so he was flaunting it.  But how does that make an .eu domain  be in perpetual jeopardy?. Not even the Feds have ever seized an .eu domain and the new domain is .eu instead of .ag. It would have Micon the promoter??? in jeopardy not the foreign domain. An example would be that the feds are after Calvin Ayre but bovada.lv keeps operating.

Bottom line, they need to clarify this because some people believe it was leaked inside info happening and others  believe it was law law enforcement. It behooves to clear this up for the sake of the new site. Until they do the speculation will continue and that can be worse than what really happened.

That fucking yolo , They didn't even let bro throw on a bathrobe dragged him out in his boxers

[wwwin]

hey everyone! Grindabit is sad to see Seals going down. We know there will be lots of players switching over to Betcoin now, so I wanted to let you know what we have to offer. We have an exclusive deal with Betcoin that allows us to offer a Rake Chase with up to 25% rakeback, and anyone can join! If you want more info, click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676776.0

This rakeback does not affect any other earnings you get, so be sure to take advantage!

poor form chazley.  Would have expected better from such a long term partner...

Not poor form, you guys totally didnt give any information of relevence in 9 days, then release a page and a half wall of text that basically says nothing.  

Poor form on seals.

And they hint that the domain is in danger of being seized yet the new site is also .eu domain instead of .ag for Antigua. If the new seals is gonna do the same, allowing  players from  the illegal  states, WA, NV, NJ, etc., than what is the difference  as far as getting seized? It would be da javu all over sgain, as Yogi Berra would say. Why don't they register a seals domain for Antigua, which last time I checked are available.  
So they say no software issue yet they are in perpetual  jeopardy. How can hardware be in perpetual jeopardy? Just move  it to new physical address. This whole thing is very convoluted. The only thing they have done rigth is allowing  withdrawals.  They should come out and say what the problem was.

Pretty sure the problem was they were threatened by doj type outfit. Anything else would be possible to overcome. They all live in the states most likely which is why it was a legitimate threat to make them snap fold. Nothing else makes sense. Harder to threaten and prosecute someone living in antigua though.

If it was law enforcement it would not have been the DOJ. They have pretty much decided to leave legality  and enforcement to the individual  States as they issued an opinion that the Wire Act does not apply to online poker and seals was not running a casino. It could have been Nevada state action since it was illegal  in NV and was competing with  NVs legalized online gambling. Also Micon lived or was in NV all the time so he was flaunting it.  But how does that make an .eu domain  be in perpetual jeopardy?. Not even the Feds have ever seized an .eu domain and the new domain is .eu instead of .ag. It would have Micon the promoter??? in jeopardy not the foreign domain. An example would be that the feds are after Calvin Ayre but bovada.lv keeps operating.

Bottom line, they need to clarify this because some people believe it was leaked inside info happening and others  believe it was law law enforcement. It behooves to clear this up for the sake of the new site. Until they do the speculation will continue and that can be worse than what really happened.

That fucking yolo , They didn't even let bro throw on a bathrobe dragged him out in his boxers

So in the video he says he wasn't arrested or anything. What does he think they wanted the computer, the camera and the other stuff they took for. I don't think Micon is gonna be playing in the WSOP in the foreseeable future.

[donk4u]

hey everyone! Grindabit is sad to see Seals going down. We know there will be lots of players switching over to Betcoin now, so I wanted to let you know what we have to offer. We have an exclusive deal with Betcoin that allows us to offer a Rake Chase with up to 25% rakeback, and anyone can join! If you want more info, click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676776.0

This rakeback does not affect any other earnings you get, so be sure to take advantage!

poor form chazley.  Would have expected better from such a long term partner...

Not poor form, you guys totally didnt give any information of relevence in 9 days, then release a page and a half wall of text that basically says nothing.  

Poor form on seals.

And they hint that the domain is in danger of being seized yet the new site is also .eu domain instead of .ag for Antigua. If the new seals is gonna do the same, allowing  players from  the illegal  states, WA, NV, NJ, etc., than what is the difference  as far as getting seized? It would be da javu all over sgain, as Yogi Berra would say. Why don't they register a seals domain for Antigua, which last time I checked are available.  
So they say no software issue yet they are in perpetual  jeopardy. How can hardware be in perpetual jeopardy? Just move  it to new physical address. This whole thing is very convoluted. The only thing they have done rigth is allowing  withdrawals.  They should come out and say what the problem was.

Pretty sure the problem was they were threatened by doj type outfit. Anything else would be possible to overcome. They all live in the states most likely which is why it was a legitimate threat to make them snap fold. Nothing else makes sense. Harder to threaten and prosecute someone living in antigua though.

If it was law enforcement it would not have been the DOJ. They have pretty much decided to leave legality  and enforcement to the individual  States as they issued an opinion that the Wire Act does not apply to online poker and seals was not running a casino. It could have been Nevada state action since it was illegal  in NV and was competing with  NVs legalized online gambling. Also Micon lived or was in NV all the time so he was flaunting it.  But how does that make an .eu domain  be in perpetual jeopardy?. Not even the Feds have ever seized an .eu domain and the new domain is .eu instead of .ag. It would have Micon the promoter??? in jeopardy not the foreign domain. An example would be that the feds are after Calvin Ayre but bovada.lv keeps operating.

Bottom line, they need to clarify this because some people believe it was leaked inside info happening and others  believe it was law law enforcement. It behooves to clear this up for the sake of the new site. Until they do the speculation will continue and that can be worse than what really happened.

That fucking yolo , They didn't even let bro throw on a bathrobe dragged him out in his boxers

So in the video he says he wasn't arrested or anything. Why  does he think they wanted the computer, the camera and the other stuff they took for. I don't think Micon is gonna be playing in the WSOP in the foreseeable future.

To get all his records on the site and all associated with it probably as would probably be stored on his computer

[jeffthebaker]

So what is the everyone going to do in the meantime? Is betcoin going to be the website everyone flocks to? I deposited a bit recently, it's much different from seals but I am enjoying myself so far.

[GamingOn]

So what is the everyone going to do in the meantime? Is betcoin going to be the website everyone flocks to? I deposited a bit recently, it's much different from seals but I am enjoying myself so far.

Hardly any games there if you want Omaha and no games for Omaha hi lo

[WearsMyLiberty]

Will have to wait it out. Spend time on socail life as well

Yeah, you can play somewhere else in the meantime, but it's nice to take a short break from poker too. 

A few days of getting out and doin something else makes you feel a lot fresher when you come back.

That fucking yolo , They didn't even let bro throw on a bathrobe dragged him out in his boxers

LOL.  Pretty sick what they did to him though. 

To get all his records on the site and all associated with it probably as would probably be stored on his computer

Yeah, glad to see that he wasn't arrested and was able to leave safely.

Seems like they weren't actually after him and just wanted to use the info on his computers to find info on the site and owners.

If any of the rest of the Seals team sees this... good luck, stay safe, and thank you for everything.

[katerniko1]

you can always join other good poker sites like luckyflop or nitrogen

[GamingOn]

you can always join other good poker sites like luckyflop or nitrogen

No thanks I will wait for SwC 2.0

[SurReality89]

so i just won a freeroll at nitrogen, one of the hourly. and just got a balance of PLY. play money?? wtf kind of sick joke is that?

[sangaman]

Wow very interesting to learn those details from the video and thanks Micon for sharing. I am even more impressed to know that the SWC tradition will continue. Nevada's actions are not just those of a police state, but a police state that is largely controlled by business interests who will gladly use the state's power to scare its competition out of the market.

[donk4u]

Just deleted all my hand histories and seals download I was playing since april of 2014. If micon gets liscensed in antigua players will have to provide documentation.

[sangaman]

I also meant to add that I and everyone I know who had a balance on Seals received their full balance within roughly 24 hours of submitting a request through the website. Again kudos to Seals for having the competence and trustworthiness to operate this long with this many players and bitcoins going through their servers and never lose any player deposits even despite facing adversity. It's a refreshing change of pace from the Mt Goxes and Full Tilts/UB&APs of the world.

[TippingPoint]

If micon gets liscensed in antigua players will have to provide documentation.

That appears to be a true statement.

http://www.antiguagaming.gov.ag/files/Antigua_and_Barbuda_Gaming_Regulations-Final.pdf

A licence holder must not permit a person to play an authorised game or wager unless the person is registered as a player. For registration to take place, the player must confirm his or her identity, date of birth and place of residence.

[traincarswreck]

I also meant to add that I and everyone I know who had a balance on Seals received their full balance within roughly 24 hours of submitting a request through the website. Again kudos to Seals for having the competence and trustworthiness to operate this long with this many players and bitcoins going through their servers and never lose any player deposits even despite facing adversity. It's a refreshing change of pace from the Mt Goxes and Full Tilts/UB&APs of the world.

Yup, just connecting with this.  And want to say its obvious.  Micon cares, who knows what the future holds but poker should be played freely amongst citizens, Micon clearly sees this. He's clearly not an angel, but there is sincerity and intent, and we should look to him for true change in this world.

Poker sites are like banks, and this means with success brings malicious attacks from all sorts of competition.

Good luck all.