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http://bitgroups.org/pdf/official_program.pdf

UPDATE 09/11/2011

Thanks to a major sponsor coming on board ticket prices are 75€

UPDATE 08/10/2011

We have a great lineup and program just about complete, here is the preliminary program.

http://conference.bitgroups.org/officialprogram.pdf

More speakers, activities and entertainment to come.

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UPDATE: 16/09/2011

Just over a week left for early bird registrations, please register to take advantage of the discount.  We need to get an idea of numbers so we can make some reservations for an appropriate venue.
  
Payment is not due, just register yourself to lock in the price, 150 Euros is the early bird price 165 Euros after that.
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UPDATE: 13/09/2011

Keynote Speakers:

Amir Taaki (Confirmed)
Rickard Falkvinge (Confirmed)
Vladimir Marchenko (Confirmed)


Offer:

Hotel is now unbundled from the package, we won't be offering accommodation at all but will recommend some hotels where participants can book to stay in the same place as others.

Conference Price:
150 Euro early bird price for registrations up till 24th of September.
165 Euro after this date.

Limit of 280 people.

Still awaiting confirmation on the venue but it looks like it will be at The Prague Conference Centre.

Sponsorship is still 10 bitcoins for all registrations up till the 16/09/2011 and then 15 bitcoins.

Due to logistics we are able to offer lower prices for anyone registering or sponsoring early.  So jump online, payment is not due at the time of registration.


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We are glad to announce after weeks of planning we will be holding a European Bitcoin Conference in Prague, hosted by Mitchell Bourne in association with the Bitcoin Consultancy.

My name is Mitchell Bourne, the Organiser.  You can find more about me at gplus.to/mitchellbourne/about .  Like everyone here, I have a passion for bitcoin.  I have been involved in various businesses and entrepreneurial activities for a long time.  This is my introduction to the forums and what I plan to bring is a conference and hub for European bitcoiners to learn, meet, do business and share ideas.  The specifics of the conference are well organised and detailed in this post and on the site.  However, if the community wants to change something, we will be as flexible as possible.  Planning first started for this event back in late July.  We have tried to fill in as many details as possible before making this announcement to the community.  The venture is being held in association with the Bitcoin Consultancy who have been long-term active and reliable members of the bitcoin community.  They have been good enough to lend their expertise and support in order to make it a great event.

I have the resources and organisational background to properly execute the function.  There are 4 people on this fulltime from now till the event.  We also have a professional event organiser on the team.

We want to make something for all parts of the community by having very in depth talks from experts about Bitcoin in the following areas;
•   development
•   mining
•   law
•   economics
•   finance
•   Plus more

We want it to be a place to share ideas where people already involved can learn at a high level.  We want to include merchants and focus on merchants who are doing novel things that play on the strengths of bitcoin.  Instead of a merchant who sells a good or a commodity like one would sell for dollars, a merchant who is using the microtransaction capacity, a merchant whose business could not survive without irreversible electronic and fast payments as is only possible in bitcoin... and ideas... what can we do with this new technology that is not just cheaper but fundamentally different (new markets).

Prior to this announcement, I have been in touch with as many guys in the community as I could to get their feedback and incorporate it into the plan.

We know that there has been some controversy surrounding Bruce Wagner. We have been delaying our announcement of this Conference but as we do not know how/when this might die down we are forced to announce in the middle of the storm.

The most important part of making this conference a success is the community getting behind it.  If you would like to show your support, this is what I ask of the community;

•   Provide feedback in what you would like to see at the conference, we love ideas.
•   Constructive criticism welcome
•   If you have something interesting in the works and would like to do a talk on, please submit your ideas.
•   If you have some interesting technology you would like to assist in any aspect of the conference please get in touch.
•   Any other assistance you would like to offer that doesn’t fit into the above points please let us know.
•   Register on the site as early as you can so we have more time to organise logistics.

If we can get community support on the above points then we can focus on marketing the conference to a wider audience.  Our aim is to bring in Business People, Entrepreneurs and Media that bitcoin needs for public adoption.  

Why Prague?
Prague is a beautiful city, in a Central European location which is cost effective.  It’s safe and a great place to visit so we think it’s the perfect place to hold the first European Conference.  There has been some discussion about holding the conference in a major financial hub which we think is a really good idea.   We have to take into account the costs of putting on such a conference in these early days of bitcoin and how that would reflect in ticket prices.  These are the reasons we have selected Prague as the host city.

The Venue
There are some very nice hotels in Prague to hold the conference at and we think we have secured one of the better ones, our current plans are for http://www.panoramahotelprague.com/home where we have confirmed our booking.  There will be a second hotel of equal quality which will be confirmed before payments are taken.

The Package
2 nights accommodation, free internet, breakfast, fitness centre and business room included.
3 day entry to the conference.

Price
310 Euro payable in Bitcoins
CZ residents that don't want hotel package 150 Euro
If you are not interested in the hotel package, please register and mention it.  We will make a decision on availability of this soon.

You can download the overview here: http://conference.bitgroups.org/program.pdf and visit the site here: http://conference.bitgroups.org/ Payments will be collected and held by Bitcoinconsultancy.com and refunds available up till the 24th of October with a limit of 300 people to attend.
We will keep everyone updated with Twitter (http://twitter.com/bitgroups and Blog posts (http://conference.bitgroups.org/blog/).

Looking forward to seeing you in Prague,

Mitchell Bourne and Team
Organisers of the European Bitcoin Conference, Prague 2011
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Hashtag: #eurobit
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Very interesting. Will definitely keep an eye on this.
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Looks great, I hope all goes well and it is a great success!
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Looks like a good idea. Prague is affordable, the hotel seems affordable, and a flight to Prague is at approximately €60 for me. Unless I have obligatory appointments during those days, I may very well attend the conference!
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Nice!
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GLBSE, The Bitcoin Stock exchange is sponsoring this event (along with others), we're going to have a speaker ....speaking (sadly not me).
I'm really grateful to worldly who has put a lot of effort into this (and is continuing to do so), and we're really looking forward to it.

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Mitch contacted us at the Bitcoin Consultancy a few weeks ago and I started talking to him and getting to know him over Skype. Before he contacted me, he already had done a great job at planning and looking at the most cost effective way of having a high-class bitcoin conference in Europe. He was also open suggestions. The more I talked with him I got confidence in his ability to organize an event.

After a few days of talking, I got our lawyer involved. I can safely say that Mitch is doing things the right way. For this reason, I wanted to support him greatly. While the event is co-hosted, Mitch is the supreme organizer and creative director for this conference.
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Mitch is doing things the right way and I'm impressed with how he and his team are going about it this - completely professionally and above board. None of the crazy antics and over blown hype here, these guys know what they are doing.  If I can get away for that weekend, I will most certainly be there.

THIS is the conference that will actually have some groundbreaking announcements and real work being done to better our community and the acceptance of BTC in the mainstream.
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Hey Mitch:

Here's a suggestion for the conference. Find Bitcoin detractors and let them debate the issues with members of the Bitcoin community. Find an economist who thinks Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme, give him a platform to expose his ideas, then have him debate them in the open with someone from the Bitcoin camp. Find a tech guy who thinks he may have detected a problem with the code and let him debate Gavin or Jeff. Find someone who believes the current monetary system is just fine, and that centralisation is crucial to a currency... you get the gist.

We need to open this discussion a bit. The rest of the world sees Bitcoin as a hobby, largely because the Bitcoin community is closed and has a definite proselytising slant to it. A sophisticated, high level argument will only benefit us in the end.

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I, aka Bitcoil, will be attending the event as a sponsor.

They NYC conference was very interesting, but we need a much better organized conference. I'm confident in Mitchell's ability to run this professionally and successfully.

Mitchell, there should be an official attendance list to which people can optionally add their real name and/or forum/IRC nickname. It should also be possible for people who haven't yet paid to be able to add themselves with an "unconfirmed" status. In addition to a list of names, the total number of people, including those who wished not to reveal their identity, should be displayed.

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Watching this as well.

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THIS is the conference that will actually have some groundbreaking announcements...


Careful now...   Wink


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THIS is the conference that will actually have some groundbreaking announcements...


Careful now...   Wink


OT:
Btw, I've always been curious why Ron Paul has a pancake on his head.  

The better question is why Ron Paul wouldn't have a pancake on his head?  Wink

I actually just like the art and the pancake is just random that it makes it hilarious, plus I love Ron Paul. I'm sorry, I'm odd.
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Awesome, its cool to see someone put some effort into a real convention.  Props to you.  Smiley

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They probably want it in Prague because of the prevalent sex trade..

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060878.html


sorry...I just could not help myself..

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They probably want it in Prague because of the prevalent sex trade..

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060878.html


sorry...I just could not help myself..

Prague has actually taken significant steps at curbing the trade of children and adults into sex trafficking, according to UNESCO.

Unlike other places that shall remain nameless *cough* Pattaya *cough*
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They probably want it in Prague because of the prevalent sex trade..

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060878.html


sorry...I just could not help myself..

Prague has actually taken significant steps at curbing the trade of children and adults into sex trafficking, according to UNESCO.

Unlike other places that shall remain nameless *cough* Pattaya *cough*

Yeah, well it doesn't really seem to work to well.

This is what ECPAT International has to say on the Prague situation:

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strengthening of the social security system and protection measures. The problem appears to be more evident now and is
concentrated in Prague, where the situation remains
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They probably want it in Prague because of the prevalent sex trade..

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060878.html


sorry...I just could not help myself..

Prague has actually taken significant steps at curbing the trade of children and adults into sex trafficking, according to UNESCO.

Unlike other places that shall remain nameless *cough* Pattaya *cough*

Yeah, well it doesn't really seem to work to well.

This is what ECPAT International has to say on the Prague situation:

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The prostitution of children in the Czech Republic in general has reportedly decreased in the last few years, partly due to the
strengthening of the social security system and protection measures. The problem appears to be more evident now and is
concentrated in Prague, where the situation remains
, particularly in and around railway stations

That's very unfortunate to hear. I was under the impression that they were making great strides in cleaning up this problem in Prague. At the very least, it seems they are headed in the right direction and hopefully they can curb this practice completely in the near future.
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My name is Mitchell Bourne, the Organiser.


Hmmm. Hey, Mitchell, are there going to be any accounts mysteriously hacked again?

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Cool stuff.
Might go if stuff allows me to.

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Great idea! Will try to attend if possible. Could even consider to present something about my mining experiences, if there is any interest. Not that I am big on public speaking, but hey, there is always the first time.


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THIS is the conference that will actually have some groundbreaking announcements...


Careful now...   Wink


OT:
Btw, I've always been curious why Ron Paul has a pancake on his head.  

The better question is why Ron Paul wouldn't have a pancake on his head?  Wink

Good point!  
He's got my vote. ( although it might be more helpful if I was an American. )


But getting back on topic:

I suggest, if it hasn't been already.

  • Video the event, or the major talks. Live streaming and for video to be viewed later.
  • Check your equipment and have backups, especially the sound equipment.
  • Have one or more microphones in the audience so we can hear the questions and not just the answers.

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I'm in.

I'd love to see lower price where somebody takes care about accomodation himself.

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Would like to go and possibly participate in some way.
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25th Nov, new moon - good choice for starting a new venture, 4th partial solar eclipse of a series - hopefully helps in eclipsing the NY bitcon pump & dump fiasco, black Friday sales in the US if I'm not mistaken - Apple's yearly discount window - all in all = good vibes, I hope to be there

& agreed with above post, why not also list conf 3 day passes for those who prefer to make their own accom arrangemnts (no star to 5 star, or like me with www.airbnb.com - late Nov isn't peak seasson)

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This looks amazing and very professional.

But, the price... the organizers will accept payment in Bitcoin, right? Speak with Steve and Tony at Bit-pay.com for an easy solution.
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But, the price... the organizers will accept payment in Bitcoin, right?

I did email Mitch.  It is important for the bitcoin economy to have all payments made in bitcoins for this event.  If not now, when?? 

An attendee goes on the exchange and buys bitcoins.  Those get paid to the conference, the conference sells them back into circulation on the exchange, for the next person to buy them.  The conference then has Euros to pay the hotel and the necessary expenses. 

If you've been waiting for more trading volume in BTC/EUR, this is your chance to make it happen!


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I did just check the conference website, and it indicates that attendees can pay either with bitcoins or wire transfer. So it seems they do intend to accept bitcoins, but perhaps the method is not yet determined.
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I'll also consider attending, but only if I can pay in Bitcoins.

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Hey Mitch:

Here's a suggestion for the conference. Find Bitcoin detractors and let them debate the issues with members of the Bitcoin community. Find an economist who thinks Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme, give him a platform to expose his ideas, then have him debate them in the open with someone from the Bitcoin camp. Find a tech guy who thinks he may have detected a problem with the code and let him debate Gavin or Jeff. Find someone who believes the current monetary system is just fine, and that centralisation is crucial to a currency... you get the gist.

We need to open this discussion a bit. The rest of the world sees Bitcoin as a hobby, largely because the Bitcoin community is closed and has a definite proselytising slant to it. A sophisticated, high level argument will only benefit us in the end.

Cheers,

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when paid in fiat it is often easier to write off taxes

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It's very nice to hear some positive feedback from the community, will try and reply to all the constructive criticism, suggestions and feedback every day.
There has been some mention of of not bundling the hotel in with the conference package.  We have taken this onboard and at this stage we will be offering this to Czech Residents only.
There are some reasons behind this due to logistics in regards to distribution of welcome packs, possibility of moving the conference location to cater for larger numbers and revenue needed to
make the conference work. 

Putting on a great conference is first priority we will then try and please as many people as possible.


Mitch is doing things the right way and I'm impressed with how he and his team are going about it this - completely professionally and above board. None of the crazy antics and over blown hype here, these guys know what they are doing.  If I can get away for that weekend, I will most certainly be there.

THIS is the conference that will actually have some groundbreaking announcements and real work being done to better our community and the acceptance of BTC in the mainstream.


Thanks for the feedback BlockHash, If anyone has a groundbreaking announcement please get in touch.
I've had some discussion about things in the works and I'm sure there will be a lot to showcase in November.

Hey Mitch:

Here's a suggestion for the conference. Find Bitcoin detractors and let them debate the issues with members of the Bitcoin community. Find an economist who thinks Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme, give him a platform to expose his ideas, then have him debate them in the open with someone from the Bitcoin camp. Find a tech guy who thinks he may have detected a problem with the code and let him debate Gavin or Jeff. Find someone who believes the current monetary system is just fine, and that centralisation is crucial to a currency... you get the gist.

We need to open this discussion a bit. The rest of the world sees Bitcoin as a hobby, largely because the Bitcoin community is closed and has a definite proselytising slant to it. A sophisticated, high level argument will only benefit us in the end.

Cheers,

We like this idea a lot, if anyone wants to suggest likely candidates for us to get in touch with please do.



I, aka Bitcoil, will be attending the event as a sponsor.

They NYC conference was very interesting, but we need a much better organized conference. I'm confident in Mitchell's ability to run this professionally and successfully.

Mitchell, there should be an official attendance list to which people can optionally add their real name and/or forum/IRC nickname. It should also be possible for people who haven't yet paid to be able to add themselves with an "unconfirmed" status. In addition to a list of names, the total number of people, including those who wished not to reveal their identity, should be displayed.


Hi Meni, will add this to our to do list.
Thanks for the feedback.


Great idea! Will try to attend if possible. Could even consider to present something about my mining experiences, if there is any interest. Not that I am big on public speaking, but hey, there is always the first time.



Submissions are open for talks, please email or PM

Here is our policy:

We are looking for new technologies, concepts in bitcoin that the community and those outside will find interesting.  We are going to stay away from advertisements, or people just discussing their business in the talks section.  If you have something that you think fits this format please submit your idea for a talk.



But getting back on topic:

I suggest, if it hasn't been already.

  • Video the event, or the major talks. Live streaming and for video to be viewed later.
  • Check your equipment and have backups, especially the sound equipment.
  • Have one or more microphones in the audience so we can hear the questions and not just the answers.

Thanks.


Thanks for the suggestions, first 2 points are a given, the 3rd is added to our suggestions list.


But, the price... the organizers will accept payment in Bitcoin, right?

I did email Mitch.  It is important for the bitcoin economy to have all payments made in bitcoins for this event.  If not now, when?? 

An attendee goes on the exchange and buys bitcoins.  Those get paid to the conference, the conference sells them back into circulation on the exchange, for the next person to buy them.  The conference then has Euros to pay the hotel and the necessary expenses. 

If you've been waiting for more trading volume in BTC/EUR, this is your chance to make it happen!




PM coming soon, we will be accepting bitcoin as payment.

If anyone has suggestions on the conference we are very flexible this early on. As we move further down the track we will not be able to take on as many suggestions so if you have something to add please get in early.

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i very like your conference!
note this:
-invite as much new bitcoin services and shops as possible and let them promote theyr product (courses or make a promotion room)
-invite as much media as possible!
-accept tickets for fiat money, that also people can come, who dont know much about Bitcoin
-Organize bublic relations on non Bitcoin-sites and in the non virtual world
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good luck!

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Hello!

I am happy to announce that AurumXchange has been asked (and have accepted) to be a sponsor for this conference! I am still unsure if I will be able to travel on those dates, but if unable, we will make sure to send a representative of our company to this event.

Thank you to the organizers for their invitation, and hope to see you all there!

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Sounds good. Price with hotel is fine but somehow I would rather prefer to stay at a friend's house. Is booking without hotel really limited to locals??? Would be sad but maybe no blocker for me.

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There has been some mention of of not bundling the hotel in with the conference package.  We have taken this onboard and at this stage we will be offering this to Czech Residents only.

Dealbreaker for me if it remains like this, as I'll be "resident" at a friend's place about 20 minutes' walking distance from the hotel.

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Great idea of this conference! I am definitely IN for this! Plus, its not so far for me Smiley

Please, consider setting a lower price, without accommodation, just for entry to the conference, for locals.

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i very like your conference!
note this:
-invite as much new bitcoin services and shops as possible and let them promote theyr product (courses or make a promotion room)
-invite as much media as possible!
-accept tickets for fiat money, that also people can come, who dont know much about Bitcoin
-Organize bublic relations on non Bitcoin-sites and in the non virtual world
-get something absolutely revolutionary; give the people and the media sth exiting!

all in all:
look for promotion: the more non-bitcoin-people hear about it (before or after), the more influence the conference will have

good luck!

Thanks Cloon, taken on board.


There has been some mention of of not bundling the hotel in with the conference package.  We have taken this onboard and at this stage we will be offering this to Czech Residents only.

Dealbreaker for me if it remains like this, as I'll be "resident" at a friend's place about 20 minutes' walking distance from the hotel.

Ah well... badge-forging and/or partycrashing may occur Cheesy


Please register and state your position of whether you are only interested without the hotel so we can get a count on serious attendees. 

You can register here: http://conference.bitgroups.org

Thanks for the feedback.

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Very interesting! I'm afraid I'm no fan of international travel but I'll definitely tune in to any live feeds!

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As a Prague resident, I'm supporting this conference and bitcoin.cz is official sponsor of this event. Mitchell Bourne is very professional and I have no doubt he can organize really great event in the heart of Europe Smiley.

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Why Prague? Nobody yet mentioned Czech republic as a country of beer.
I think it'd be fun talking some pub owner (preferably a pub with beer from minor breweries) into accepting bitcoins. At least for the duration of the con.
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Flights booked  Grin Prague looks to be a nice little touristy spot to hang around for a few days before the conference too.
Another +1 here for entrance only fee option as I will be arranging my own accommodation.
... Must remember to buy slush a beer!

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Im wondering if the conference will also be open for mere visitors, come-byers and not just attendees. If so, what's gonna be entrance fee, if any?


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Great - about time to see some international Bitcoin-community events in Europe Wink

I'm definitely going to be there!

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looks good. will try to attend.
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Maybe its a good idea to post some pictures from the hall (where its gonna take place) itself?

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$325 + $573 taxes & fees = $898 USD  per person

Too bad the taxes and fees are more then the ticket for me!

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Been a busy few days, so much to do. Main focus after organising our admin logistics has been to get speakers

We are trying to get a varied list of speakers from outside the community.  We have managed to get our request to wikileaks staff for Julian Assange to appear via video link, fingers crossed on that one.

Rickard Falkvinge has also been contacted and has replied saying he would be honoured to attend but has to work around a prior commitment, no confirmation yet but it sounds good.

We have contacted a representative of the FSA and they have requested more information which is better than no response.   

Jgarzik and Andresen of course are on our hitlist so we are making some enquiries about getting them over.

The biggest problem we are having is finding the detractors to come so we can have some kind of debate, ive contacted Ben Laurie but he may have scheduling issues. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR VERY OUTSPOKEN DETRACTORS?

3 days in and things are looking good, thanks to the positive responses from everyone in the community to date, lots of sponsors onboard, its only 10 Bitcoins so if you have something to sell let us know.

If you are not already following us on twitter please do so and help spread the word @bitgroups

Feedback we have received so far is mainly concerned with unbundling the hotel from the conference, here is our latest thought process and the challenges associated with it:

It increases the logistics of registering at the event
Decreases the numbers of people in the hotels reducing the bargaining power of everyone else
Reduces the amount of money we spend at the hotel and reduces our ability to negotiate on the conference room
If we need to move conference rooms to cater for larger numbers we can provide transport to the new venue from one hotel but not from many.

They are the reasons for not unbundling but we have had enough registrations to consider it.  The price without hotel will be 150Euro, if you are adamant you don't want the hotel bundled please vote with your feet and register http://conference.bitgroups.org stating so.

We will announce it in 2 days, so get in and register to let us know what you think.


Very interesting! I'm afraid I'm no fan of international travel but I'll definitely tune in to any live feeds!

We've spoken to a few sponsors and media, we have confirmed there will be a live stream of the talks on our site and
Coverage in english, German and Polish.

Why Prague? Nobody yet mentioned Czech republic as a country of beer.
I think it'd be fun talking some pub owner (preferably a pub with beer from minor breweries) into accepting bitcoins. At least for the duration of the con.

We agree, it's the perfect time to get a local establishment onboard that will accept bitcoins.  This is high on the priorities list, we will have a map
of locations accepting bitcoins around the event.  Beer sounds like a great place to start.

Flights booked  Grin Prague looks to be a nice little touristy spot to hang around for a few days before the conference too.
Another +1 here for entrance only fee option as I will be arranging my own accommodation.
... Must remember to buy slush a beer!

+1


@wordly

Maybe its a good idea to post some pictures from the hall (where its gonna take place) itself?


Pics coming soon

$325 + $573 taxes & fees = $898 USD  per person

Too bad the taxes and fees are more then the ticket for me!


how does that work, tax rates of 180% ill never understand.


Im also using Gplus to spread the word, if you are on Gplus please add me gplus.to/mitchellbourne and make a comment on a post telling me you belong in the bitcoin circle


Suggestions, suggestions, suggestions, please add them, especially speakers you would want to see.


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Great!! The dates are penciled down in my agenda book (those words sound weird on such hi tech forum don't they).

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Ah, a nice little hop over from where I am.  We will likely try to make an appearance.

Not a bad price, either.

Cool.  Will talk with my partners and get back to you.
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love this!!  I had posted a few months back to see if there was interest to hold a conference in US, but there was little interest.
i'm gonna have to visit Prague now... Smiley never been there, always wanted to visit though...
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good luck with the conference.  Been a while since I've been to .cz might be nice to have a good reason to go back.

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Actually, i was just looking at my calendar... Sad

This is going to be tough for anyone from US.  Thanksgiving is Nov. 24th and I can't make it in time for 25th...
Oh well.... maybe next one...
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an option to buy conference entry only? i'm quasi local and the bed & breakfast is uhm, overpriced compared to couch surfing and budget gourmet dining at pubs for dinner. no need to make it "cesky sen" style for free but keep in mind the 26$ entry fee for the August NY gig. there was even a lady present ; )

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an option to buy conference entry only? i'm quasi local and the bed & breakfast is uhm, overpriced compared to couch surfing and budget gourmet dining at pubs for dinner. no need to make it "cesky sen" style for free but keep in mind the 26$ entry fee for the August NY gig. there was even a lady present ; )

oranges & lemons, while a low entry fee is essential if you want any general public to even look in for 1 day & is the best way to spread Btc, the NY operation on the other hand was just a cover for a known scammer's pump & dump operation, pumped up with BS hype to over $11, crashed to under $8 with the total lack of any important news releases & none what so ever in the main stream media, easy money for those setting it up, you'd almost think that the 'pedo island cruise' etc was announced there just for the purpose of crashing the price to the max

ps - didn't I see BWanker on your original guest speakers wish list, that'd be fun to see/hear - but still not worth $150+ walk in

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oranges & lemons ...

i don't have a problem with 20+ eur/day conference fee. it's the bed & breakfast that i'm not willing to pay.
what i don't see is why any major media should cover a conference related to an open source project.
where's the call for papers? what do you want to discuss for 3 days? what did you eat for thanksgivings?

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VENUE and HOTEL Pics

PLEASE NOTE VENUES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
As there are many participants not interested in the hotel bundle there is a chance we will change hotels and conference venue depending on numbers.  This will all be finalised before accepting payment.

Room comes with Wifi, access to fitness centre, pool, business lounge and breakfast included.



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Wow!  Shocked

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UPDATE:

Rick Falkvinge confirmed speaker

http://falkvinge.net/

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UPDATE:

Rick Falkvinge confirmed speaker

http://falkvinge.net/

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an option to buy conference entry only? i'm quasi local and the bed & breakfast is uhm, overpriced compared to couch surfing and budget gourmet dining at pubs for dinner. no need to make it "cesky sen" style for free but keep in mind the 26$ entry fee for the August NY gig. there was even a lady present ; )

More or less what I've asked before, guess we'll probably get old and die before it gets answered.


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September 05, 2011, 07:51:27 AM
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an option to buy conference entry only? i'm quasi local and the bed & breakfast is uhm, overpriced compared to couch surfing and budget gourmet dining at pubs for dinner. no need to make it "cesky sen" style for free but keep in mind the 26$ entry fee for the August NY gig. there was even a lady present ; )

More or less what I've asked before, guess we'll probably get old and die before it gets answered.

We will announce it within 24 hours, please be patient. 

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an option to buy conference entry only? i'm quasi local and the bed & breakfast is uhm, overpriced compared to couch surfing and budget gourmet dining at pubs for dinner. no need to make it "cesky sen" style for free but keep in mind the 26$ entry fee for the August NY gig. there was even a lady present ; )

More or less what I've asked before, guess we'll probably get old and die before it gets answered.

We will announce it within 24 hours, please be patient. 

I'm not in hurry to know the location, calendar entry made. I can imagine it's a lot of work to organize a conference, evaluation of offers etc. good luck and thanks for considering the proposals in this thread. : )

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The venue looks fantastic from the picture and Having Falkvinge there to speak is icing. I wish badly I didn't live on the other side of the globe right now. Maybe it's time I plan a Eurotrip?  Grin
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UPDATE:

Vladimir from bitcoin.org.uk is a confirmed speaker.

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Getting better and better...

A well setup video link to a few people who might not be able to join in person (Gavin, Jeff, Julian,...) would also be great!

As for detractors: maybe someone from the BVDW (German organization representing interests of companies in the digital world - claiming: "We are the net"). They had a very critical press release back in June, basically warning every consumer in Germany to use Bitcoins because they have the potential to sustainably damage society as a whole.

If you can't find anybody else, maybe even just an articulate (local) economics professor who opposes some of Bitcoins fundamentals.

While we're at it: please have a panel discussion - especially if you find a good detractor! Panel discussions (with a good moderator) are IMHO just the perfect format for such conferences.

Apart from that, I second the suggestion to have a microphone ready for the audience or a moderator repeating their questions and please schedule enough time for Q&A.

I'm really looking forward to this event and its great to see it in such capable hands!

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We have already enough detractors in the world, no need to bring some at the conference in my opinion

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We have already enough detractors in the world, no need to bring some at the conference in my opinion

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/echo-chamber-confidence.html
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We have already enough detractors in the world, no need to bring some at the conference in my opinion
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/echo-chamber-confidence.html
+10, as much as many detractors get it completely wrong, groupthink and memetic inbreeding are a very serious problem with the Bitcoin community.

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We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

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We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

Perhaps start here:

http://www.quora.com/Bitcoin/Is-the-cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-a-good-idea
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We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

There are several types of detractors, it depends on what you look for.

Only on the economics side, there are Keynesians, lovers of inflation, and also the goldbugs ("It's backed by nothing!"). Bringing somebody that's for inflation is probably pointless, but high profile goldbugs might be interesting. You may find them around places like the Mises Institute. Hasn't Peter Schiff made these type of criticisms on bitcoin, by the way? He would be very "high profile", maybe even too much expensive since he's a media guy already... but it doesn't hurt asking. ;-)

There's also the technical side. I'd like to see some good technical criticism.
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We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

I'll send you a group made of bernanke, some of the sa trolls, some keynesian guys and some "hackers can hack anything, bitcoin too" ppl Grin

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We have been looking for high profile detractors, a debate or panel discussion might work nicely.

Does anyone have any suggestions for detractors?

I'll send you a group made of bernanke, some of the sa trolls, some keynesian guys and some "hackers can hack anything, bitcoin too" ppl Grin

Invite Krugman http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/07/golden-cyberfetters/

Have him do a panel with Falkvinge!

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UPDATE:

Still confirming conference and hotel deal, decision to unbundle the conference package has caused a few logistical problem we will try and solve.
It's early days, we will have a decision soon.

Keep sending us your suggestions for speakers, detractors, libertarians, bitcoin people, economists -  preferably form Europe.

Who do you want to hear talk?

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UPDATE: 13/09/2011

Keynote Speakers:

Amir Taaki (Confirmed)
Rickard Falkvinge (Confirmed)
Vladimir Marchenko (Confirmed)
Rudolf Elmer (Accepted invitation awaiting on details)

Offer:

Hotel is now unbundled from the package, we won't be offering accommodation at all but will recommend some hotels where participants can book to stay in the same place as others.

Conference Price:
150 Euro early bird price for registrations up till 24th of September. Payment not due at time of registration.
165 Euro after this date.

Limit of 280 people.

Still awaiting confirmation on the venue but it looks like it will be at The Prague Conference Centre.

Sponsorship is still 10 bitcoins for all registrations up till the 16/09/2011 and then 15 bitcoins.

Due to logistics we are able to offer lower prices for anyone registering or sponsoring early.  So jump online, payment is not due at the time of registration.

Register here: http://conference.bitgroups.org/


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Hotel is now unbundled from the package, we won't be offering accommodation at all but will recommend some hotels where participants can book to stay in the same place as others.
I don't understand this. Was it not possible to have the bundle as a default and add an unbundled option for the minority who have other accommodations?

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Hotel is now unbundled from the package, we won't be offering accommodation at all but will recommend some hotels where participants can book to stay in the same place as others.
I don't understand this. Was it not possible to have the bundle as a default and add an unbundled option for the minority who have other accommodations?


It's the majority of people that want to unbundle it.

We just don't have the numbers to warrant it the bundle option.  We have been taking into account everyone who has registered stating their preference.

It works out better if we recommend a hotel so we get as many people under the one roof that want to be.  Once we confirm the venue we will make a recommendation.

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A bit delayed, but finally submitted and added icon in header. ^_^
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UPDATE: Early bird discount ends in 8 days.

Just over a week left for early bird registrations, please register to take advantage of the discount.  We need to get an idea of numbers so we can make some reservations for an appropriate venue.
 
Payment is not due, just register yourself to lock in the price, 150 Euros is the early bird price 165 Euros after that.

register here:
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Hi, I just registered as sponsor (right in time before midnight to join the club at 10 btc) and did not received any btc address nor confirmation via mail. I suppose it's normal and I will wait.

edit: I just noticed the confirmation web message that you'll contact me later. no problem then. keep up the good work!

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Would it be possible to arrange live video streaming for people who will be unable to get there (e.g. me Tongue)?

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Would it be possible to arrange live video streaming for people who will be unable to get there (e.g. me Tongue)?

+1 +1


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+1 to the live video streaming

and i mean a REAL live video streaming, not like in new york  Cheesy

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UPDATE:

24th of September is the final day for early bird prices, 4 days away.
Payment not required just register to give us an idea of numbers.

Early Bird Prices 150 Euro
Regular Price 165 Euro

Go to the site to register, payment is due when bitcoin goes up a bit more Smiley

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UPDATE:

24th of September is the final day for early bird prices, 4 days away.
Payment not required just register to give us an idea of numbers.

Early Bird Prices 150 Euro
Regular Price 165 Euro

Go to the site to register, payment is due when bitcoin goes up a bit more Smiley

Why is this important?

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Why is this important?

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I would assume he wants to benefit the attendees, so we don't have to fork over as many bitcoins to cover the hotel cost in Euros.

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gauging the numbers of attendees is important, the earlier you can make an estimate on this the better.

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gauging the numbers of attendees is important, the earlier you can make an estimate on this the better.

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He asked about why you're waiting for the exchange rate to increase to collect payment.

And I'm guessing it was tongue-in-cheek.

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gauging the numbers of attendees is important, the earlier you can make an estimate on this the better.

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He asked about why you're waiting for the exchange rate to increase to collect payment.

And I'm it was tongue-in-cheek.


It was tongue in cheek, we are just waiting on a payment system to be finalised.


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Jon Matonis has expressed his interest in speaking at the conference

http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.com/

2 days left for early bird registration at 150Euro
please register at the site conference.bitgroups.org

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i just signed up. i am looking forward for payment details and destination confirmation.
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Some great new bitcoin technology from bit-pay

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We are looking to find some locations around the conference where we can use this system.

If anyone else has a new product or service that you would like to showcase please get in touch.

Tomorrow is the final day for early bird registrations, more speakers that have expressed interest:

Max Keiser
Stacey Herbert
Richard Bluestein

The conference is shaping up to be a great event.

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Max & Stacey would be really great!

I'm looking forward to the conference and kudos to worldly for the professional organization of this event!

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wow! max keiser + stacy herbert. i am big fans of them Smiley

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Unconfirmed but will try and make it, will get back to me in a few days with confirmation.

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Unfortunately the numbers of registrations have not been sufficient at this stage.

There is a good chance that the conference will have to be cancelled.

If you have intentions of attending please register.


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Ouch Sad
Just to get an indication - are we talking about 10, 50 or 100 more people who would need to register?

While a European Bitcoin conference would sure be a great thing - I think most agree that it should only be held if there's enough demand.

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September 26, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
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We would want the conference to have at least 200 people attend and there just doesn't seem to be that level of interest.

The difficult decision is to push on and risk putting something together that won't be what has been advertised.

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Well, Max Keiser just tweeted that he'll be speaking in Prague! There surely are some more people who would attend just to see him and Rick Falkvinge.

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yes i just saw that.

This should get some registrations in the door.


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Registrations are coming in again.

Max will confirm by friday, we have a suitable venue lined up and things are looking much better.

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We would want the conference to have at least 200 people attend and there just doesn't seem to be that level of interest.

While your goal is completely understandable, that's a very high number of paying (I assume) attendees for an unproven conference. Especially if most of them need to/will be traveling in and not local.

I go to a lot of conferences (both as attendee and as speaker), and have been to everything from well published recurring ones where the only attendees ended up being the speakers (!) to those where there are thousands of of local and hundreds of traveling participants. Many conferences end up doing last minute "bring # of your colleagues / classmates for free!" deals.

Here's hoping you will succeed Smiley From the outside (my schedule simply hasn't got room for me to join) it looks as if you're doing a great job.





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We would want the conference to have at least 200 people attend and there just doesn't seem to be that level of interest.

The difficult decision is to push on and risk putting something together that won't be what has been advertised.
I would consider a lower price next time.  Conference pricing is all over the place, but for something like this, a 80 euro pricetag might draw more people and should allow to pay for the space, speakers (if they are paid) and a nice profit. 

Have a vendor price that does not scare off vendors as well.  Vendors (advertised as coming) bring in attendees, and they usually reserve earlier so the fact that they are coming can be shown off as well. 

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Worldly - I would strongly recommend, if registrations are an issue, that you promote this event a bit more on this forum (and the other btc forums cropping up). Furthermore, many people may be planning to attend, but procrastinating.

It's very important for prospective attendees to register ASAP - and this is a message you need to push out there. I bet there are at least one or two dozen who are just being lazy, and will be shocked to see a cancellation... reach those people!!
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

Conference is looking very strong, we have Max Keiser, Stacey Herbert and Richard Bluestein confirmed as attending.

We now have a very good line up of speakers, sponsors, registrations, and we have a few options on venues so all is good.

All in all its shaping up for a great event.


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Update the website with pictures of the confirmed speakers?

I updated http://bitcoin.witcoin.com/p/1951/The-European-Bitcoin-Conference

moved this line to end of thread to spread more awareness.
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Academic guys *need* a stable program of talks online at the site before they have a chance to secure funding to attend such an event.

So...looking forward to a more complete program.

Also, some info on how to submit contributions would be *really* helpful.

Just some nice pictures of confirmed speakers are not enough...
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Just some nice pictures of confirmed speakers are not enough...

Good point.  Comparably at http://acen.org/ (anime convention) the main page shows a link to Panel Request Form (must be logged in) and Panel Request Policy.

Also, at the registration page, for the "I am a" field, I suggest changing "Miner" to "Miner/Validator."  I'm sure Amir Taaki would agree (or instead prefer "Validator" only). ^_^
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Has the media agreed to show up here yet?

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This is offtopic, but I wanted to reference it here because Rick Falkvinge (affiliated with The Pirate Bay in some fashion) will be attending, and I recently experienced a bit of obnoxious bannage from The Pirate Bay crew both at http://thepiratebay.org/ and in their irc channel in relation to uploading bitcoin-related content to http://thepiratebay.org.  However, noticeably there still exists other bitcoin-related content at http://thepiratebay.org/ with the 'bitcoin' tag and therefore I am not entirely confident of their reasoning of banning my account because bitcoin is "ponzi scheme" (also disregarding that bitcoin isn't a ponzi scheme) to be accurate since the other bitcoin-related torrents have not been removed or affiliated accounts banned.

I do not intend to hijack this thread, so instead direct all responses to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=46751
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Update the website with pictures of the confirmed speakers?

I updated http://bitcoin.witcoin.com/p/1951/The-European-Bitcoin-Conference

I think you got the wrong Vladimir Cheesy

That's not him:


Here's our good old Vladimir:


You're not new here so you surely remember him - don't fall for that 89 year old imposter Wink

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That's not him:


Here's our good old Vladimir ...
You're not new here so you surely remember him - don't fall for that 89 year old imposter Wink

+1
expecting the true vladimir to speak

btw nice preview of his talk can be found as video recording from the london's hackerspace talks on bitcoin

full/raw footage part 1 here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bitcoin-weekend
and part two: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bitcoinweekend
is set on autoplay, might want to mute or correct speaker loudness before following any of those links
part 2 skip first 10 minutes (no talk ongoing). further spoiler on talk hosts, topics covered and time stamps for direct jumping to talk starts available upon request.

as for vladimir's talk it starts on video 'part 1' around 02:07:00
cake is mentioned also in 'part 1' around 1:50:00

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This is offtopic

Not only that, it's just plain wrong.

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The Pirate Party, neither the Swedish nor the international movement, aren't affiliated with The Pirate Bay anymore than your regular Green party is affiliated with Greenpeace. On that note, one of the founders of TPB votes green and not pirate.

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Update the website with pictures of the confirmed speakers?

I updated http://bitcoin.witcoin.com/p/1951/The-European-Bitcoin-Conference

I think you got the wrong Vladimir Cheesy

That's not him:


Here's our good old Vladimir:


You're not new here so you surely remember him - don't fall for that 89 year old imposter Wink

lawl, oops... I just bought this account from someone on ebay.  My apologies.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, will be replying soon. 
Things are getting busy around here.

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I just bought this account from someone on ebay.
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Sarcasm to cover for my mistake regarding the two Vladimir Marchenkos.
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Update:

Confirmed Speaker:
Stefan Thomas

We are putting together the program now, its looking strong.

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We are putting together the program now, its looking strong.

I am not completely aware of the process / workflow you are using for this. and how suggestions get selected . From my personal point of view I would be ready to offer some topics myself.

Bitcoin - How I understand it: My high-level conceptual understanding of the Bitcoin mechanism after having read and documented the entire reference client code for myself. 45 minutes, tutorial style.

An Analysis of Bitcoin Anonymity: To which degree is Bitcoin really anonymous? How do Bitcoin usage patterns affect anonymity? What can be done to improve Bitcoin anonymity? How can Bitcoin payment flows can be traced? 30 minutes, talk, describes work-in-progress (and will contain first results when applying our analysis algorithm to the current block chain).

Improving Bitcoin Wallet Security: How can we split the authorization phase in the Bitcoin mechanisms to two machines in such a manner that compromising ONE machine does not result in money being stolen? Which crypto possibilities are there? Which solution are we in the process of implementing? 30 minutes, talk, describes work-in-progress (currently at the stage of starting to work on the selected embedded hardware)

Bitcoin Todo List: Critical remarks on the state of development in Bitcoin. What must be done (and at which level or priority) if Bitcoin shall become a success any time soon. 20 - 30 minutes, could be part of a brainstorming session or panel discussion.

I am not sure what fits the conference mode best and how things get organized there - as I am more used to the traditional ol' style of "over"organized conferences with submission deadlines and schedules and stuff. Just post what suits you best.

To give you an idea on myself: I have been regularly lecturing in class and giving industry talks for the last twenty years or so. Currently I am hacking on a forked version of the reference client to which I added some 1.000 lines of code and I am supervising two students working on Bitcoin related topics.

I am dependent on the precise schedule of the program, because I have to match some time & travelling constraints. "Just come and see" will not work for myself (besides being detrimental to the possibility of preparing something).

I can provide more details on my suggestions above.



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We are putting together the program now, its looking strong.

I am not completely aware of the process / workflow you are using for this. and how suggestions get selected . From my personal point of view I would be ready to offer some topics myself.

Bitcoin - How I understand it: My high-level conceptual understanding of the Bitcoin mechanism after having read and documented the entire reference client code for myself. 45 minutes, tutorial style.

An Analysis of Bitcoin Anonymity: To which degree is Bitcoin really anonymous? How do Bitcoin usage patterns affect anonymity? What can be done to improve Bitcoin anonymity? How can Bitcoin payment flows can be traced? 30 minutes, talk, describes work-in-progress (and will contain first results when applying our analysis algorithm to the current block chain).

Improving Bitcoin Wallet Security: How can we split the authorization phase in the Bitcoin mechanisms to two machines in such a manner that compromising ONE machine does not result in money being stolen? Which crypto possibilities are there? Which solution are we in the process of implementing? 30 minutes, talk, describes work-in-progress (currently at the stage of starting to work on the selected embedded hardware)

Bitcoin Todo List: Critical remarks on the state of development in Bitcoin. What must be done (and at which level or priority) if Bitcoin shall become a success any time soon. 20 - 30 minutes, could be part of a brainstorming session or panel discussion.

I am not sure what fits the conference mode best and how things get organized there - as I am more used to the traditional ol' style of "over"organized conferences with submission deadlines and schedules and stuff. Just post what suits you best.

To give you an idea on myself: I have been regularly lecturing in class and giving industry talks for the last twenty years or so. Currently I am hacking on a forked version of the reference client to which I added some 1.000 lines of code and I am supervising two students working on Bitcoin related topics.

I am dependent on the precise schedule of the program, because I have to match some time & travelling constraints. "Just come and see" will not work for myself (besides being detrimental to the possibility of preparing something).

I can provide more details on my suggestions above.





Hi Forp,

Slots for speakers is nearly full, please send us an email to conference@bitgroups.org.

There won't be a 'just come and see' program, it's just taking a bit of time to put all the pieces together.  It should be ready tomorrow at the latest.

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We are putting together the program now, its looking strong.

I am not completely aware of the process / workflow you are using for this. and how suggestions get selected . From my personal point of view I would be ready to offer some topics myself.

Hi Forp,

Slots for speakers is nearly full, please send us an email to conference@bitgroups.org.

There won't be a 'just come and see' program, it's just taking a bit of time to put all the pieces together.  It should be ready tomorrow at the latest.

You got email.  Smiley

Where could that information have been obtained earlier ?  Huh  Embarrassed Embarrassed

I would have been in touch earlier if I had had a chance to know more details about this organizational process in advance. Moreover, there would have been more contributions and more participants. Sad that this chance now remains unused. Maybe we should discuss how in the next event an approach can be used which is also adapted to the boundary conditions under which academic and research people have to function.  Roll Eyes
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We are putting together the program now, its looking strong.

I am not completely aware of the process / workflow you are using for this. and how suggestions get selected . From my personal point of view I would be ready to offer some topics myself.

Hi Forp,

Slots for speakers is nearly full, please send us an email to conference@bitgroups.org.

There won't be a 'just come and see' program, it's just taking a bit of time to put all the pieces together.  It should be ready tomorrow at the latest.

You got email.  Smiley

Where could that information have been obtained earlier ?  Huh  Embarrassed Embarrassed

I would have been in touch earlier if I had had a chance to know more details about this organizational process in advance. Moreover, there would have been more contributions and more participants. Sad that this chance now remains unused. Maybe we should discuss how in the next event an approach can be used which is also adapted to the boundary conditions under which academic and research people have to function.  Roll Eyes


We received your mail and had you down for a potential speaker already.  
Just getting together the official program for your Institution.  
This thread has all the information in it and is the main place for communication.

It will be a great conference and Im looking forward to meeting you there, will be replying with more info.

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Come discuss in Freenode #bitcoin-prague
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Come discuss in Freenode #bitcoin-prague

Ill be hanging out here if anyone would like to discuss ideas.

We have a confirmed venue, Blue Hall ECM centre.  Preliminary conference program coming out tomorrow.

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October 08, 2011, 08:00:11 AM
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http://conference.bitgroups.org/officialprogram.pdf

We have got the preliminary program finished, now we are just waiting on the details of speakers and their talk durations before we lock in the Saturday schedule. Plus we have more speakers to add.

We are still open to suggestions on ideas to enrich the conference so dont hold back.

Time to get to the site and register, we are recommending a hotel near the conference centre that is around 60€ a night so hold off your accommodation bookings until we get details on how to book.

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I'm really looking for paying beer in bitcoins! Good job :-)

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Confirmed Speaker: David Birch
http://digitaldebateblogs.typepad.com/digital_money/

Looking forward to this one.

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Thanks to radiobitcoin.pl/radio-bitcoin for sponsoring the European Bitcoin Conference, Prague 2011
They will be broadcasting from the event in German, Polish and English.

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I don't have the money for a train ticket or anything along those lines, so I was wondering if there was anyone from the Netherlands I could get a ride from...? A ticket for the conference itself has already been arranged.

I have no issue with doing something along the lines of web development and such in return (within reason) Smiley

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I don't have the money for a train ticket or anything along those lines, so I was wondering if there was anyone from the Netherlands I could get a ride from...? A ticket for the conference itself has already been arranged.

I have no issue with doing something along the lines of web development and such in return (within reason) Smiley

We might be able to use some web development, let us know if you find a ride.

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UPDATE:

Confirmed speaker at the European Bitcoin Conference

Economist Detlev Schlichter from http://papermoneycollapse.com/

Detlev S. Schlichter is an author and Austrian School Economist. His first book Paper Money Collapse – The Folly of Elastic Money and the Coming Monetary Breakdown was published by John Wiley & Sons in September 2011. Mr. Schlichter has appeared as a commentator on television and radio (Sky News, Reuters TV) and his editorials have been published by The Wall Street Journal, TheStreet.com and mises.org. He is a senior fellow at the Cobden Centre, London, a free-market think tank devoted to issues of money and banking. Mr. Schlichter had a 19-year career as an investment manager in international financial markets.

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Fantastic speakers! Looking forward to this.
Thanks for your hard work!
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UPDATE:

Confirmed speaker at the European Bitcoin Conference

Economist Detlev Schlichter from http://papermoneycollapse.com/

Detlev S. Schlichter is an author and Austrian School Economist. His first book Paper Money Collapse – The Folly of Elastic Money and the Coming Monetary Breakdown was published by John Wiley & Sons in September 2011. Mr. Schlichter has appeared as a commentator on television and radio (Sky News, Reuters TV) and his editorials have been published by The Wall Street Journal, TheStreet.com and mises.org. He is a senior fellow at the Cobden Centre, London, a free-market think tank devoted to issues of money and banking. Mr. Schlichter had a 19-year career as an investment manager in international financial markets.


Awesome!!
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Fantastic speakers! Looking forward to this.
Thanks for your hard work!

no worries, should be a nice event.

UPDATE:

Confirmed speaker at the European Bitcoin Conference

Economist Detlev Schlichter from http://papermoneycollapse.com/

Detlev S. Schlichter is an author and Austrian School Economist. His first book Paper Money Collapse – The Folly of Elastic Money and the Coming Monetary Breakdown was published by John Wiley & Sons in September 2011. Mr. Schlichter has appeared as a commentator on television and radio (Sky News, Reuters TV) and his editorials have been published by The Wall Street Journal, TheStreet.com and mises.org. He is a senior fellow at the Cobden Centre, London, a free-market think tank devoted to issues of money and banking. Mr. Schlichter had a 19-year career as an investment manager in international financial markets.


Awesome!!

we think so too, its quite a lineup now.

If anyone has any input on sunday activities we are open to ideas.

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The European Bitcoin Conference 2011 is being held at the City Conference Center in The Blue Hall.  There will be a free wireless Internet connection for all participants, and lunch and coffee breaks will be catered for.

Price
165 euros payable in bitcoins or by wire transfer (select during registration)

Amir Taaki
Amir Taaki is co-founder of the London-based Bitcoin Consultancy(no comma here) as well as a Bitcoin developer.  He wrote the original currency exchange software Intersango, the stock exchange client (name?), bitcoin poker software and an end-user graphical user interface for Bitcoin.  Prior to working with Bitcoin, Amir programmed video games and has ten years of experience writing open-source software.  Now he's working on the Bitcoin Consultancy rewrite of Bitcoin: libbitcoin which will enable B?itcoin to scale and people to quickly (-start) build(-ing) Bitcoin applications.
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Rick Falkvinge is the founder of the first Pirate Party and a campaigner for next-generation civil liberties and sensible information policy.  In particular, he stresses how the copyright industries work in collusion with Big Brother hawks to erode or eliminate the parts of Internet that guarantee our civil liberties.  At the end of May 2011, he announced that he would invest all his savings into bitcoins.  He even took a loan to buy more bitcoins.  He has been listed as one of the 100 most influential people in Sweden by the Fokus magazine.
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Vladimir Marchenko
Vladimir Marchenko runs one of the largest private Bitcoin mining operations in the UK, and probably the world, under Marchenko Ltd.  He is the founder of bitcoin.org.uk and a distributor and service provider for Bitcoin mining rigs.  He is known as an author of the p2p websites FileDonkey and Figator, had run a FIDO node in Russia in the early 90(no apostrophe)s, worked for the Russian Ministry of Defence and for companies such as Coca-Cola, Pipex, Ebuyer and also founded and ran a number of private companies in the UK.
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Max Keiser
Max Keiser is a TV presenter, radio host, entrepreneur, broadcaster and journalist.  He is a former Wall Street broker, the inventor of the virtual specialist technology / prediction markets, Hollywood Stock Exchange, Karmabanque(no comma) and Pirate MyFilm (PMF).
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David G.W. Birch is a Director of Consult Hyperion, the IT management consultancy that specialises in electronic transactions.  Here he provides specialist consultancy support to clients around the world including all of the leading payment brands, major telecommunications providers, government(no s) bodies and international organisations including the OECD.
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Clemens Cap
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Stefan Thomas aka justmoon, creator of the WeUseCoins.com

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Help bring Vili Lehdonvirta to the conference, accused of being Satoshi by the New Yorker Magazine

http://vili.lehdonvirta.com

Here is his take on the the conference:

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I am fascinated by Bitcoin, and I also think I have something of value to contribute to the Bitcoin community. The first is that as a researcher, I have studied payment and digital currency design and user adoption issues, and I think this is an area where the Bitcoin ecosystem could do better. The second is that as a long-time member of Electronic Frontier Finland, I have spent a lot of time thinking and publically debating about privacy and digital freedom issues. I am worried that Bitcoin is a step too far as it leaves no possibility for even democratic governments to enforce their laws. This is a topic I would love to debate with the community and hear opposing views. I think the end result could be a better understanding for me, but also a better understanding for the Bitcoin community on how to live in harmony with democratic authority.

If you can donate some bitcoins to help cover cost of travel it would be appreciated
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Help bring Vili Lehdonvirta to the conference, accused of being Satoshi by the New Yorker Magazine

http://vili.lehdonvirta.com

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I am fascinated by Bitcoin, and I also think I have something of value to contribute to the Bitcoin community. The first is that as a researcher, I have studied payment and digital currency design and user adoption issues, and I think this is an area where the Bitcoin ecosystem could do better. The second is that as a long-time member of Electronic Frontier Finland, I have spent a lot of time thinking and publically debating about privacy and digital freedom issues. I am worried that Bitcoin is a step too far as it leaves no possibility for even democratic governments to enforce their laws. This is a topic I would love to debate with the community and hear opposing views. I think the end result could be a better understanding for me, but also a better understanding for the Bitcoin community on how to live in harmony with democratic authority.

If you can donate some bitcoins to help cover cost of travel it would be appreciated
12n1VQq7kfH18iP74cCYQ2cMwKZZodZr8S

I recommend also to consider Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry.
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I recommend also to consider Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry.
Great idea - that way we could be pretty sure to have the real Satoshi on board! You could make a contest on Sunday, with each of them explaining why they did not invent Bitcoin and let the audience decide on who gave the least convincing speech - winning him an "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" T-shirt Grin

On a more serious note: Vili Lehdonvirta would surely be an interesting guest for a talk or a panel discussion - I just hope that there is still enough time for each of the speakers!

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October 20, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
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I recommend also to consider Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry.
Great idea - that way we could be pretty sure to have the real Satoshi on board! You could make a contest on Sunday, with each of them explaining why they did not invent Bitcoin and let the audience decide on who gave the least convincing speech - winning him an "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" T-shirt Grin

Too late! At the NYC Bitcoin conference I bought a T-shirt with the text "I am Satoshi".

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Now that Bitcoin is dead, Satoshi could really step up Grin

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Seriously. Come on! Do not be fooled by Vili Lehdonvirta and his viewpoints on bitcoin above regarding democratic governments. Here are some of his twitter thoughts (below). While it's genuinely a good thing to have debate about digital currencies and the law, it is a waste of time for bitcoin because the nature of the bitcoin currency is antithetical to governments and regulation and centralized control over what transactions are made and/or identified. Bitcoin is not a project to debate the dilution of bitcoin decentralization, bitcoin anonymity, or bitcoin untraceability.

This would be like inviting the CIA or FBI or US Treasury to debate. Who really fuckin' cares? What's at stake for forward-looking bitcoin proponents is the robustness of the transaction offerings and the stability and pervasiveness of the global exchanger network.

ViliLe Vili Lehdonvirta
What matters to authorities is what you can do with it, not whether it's made of bits, paper or gold.
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Not sure I agree with that. e-Gold dealt in commodity, yet they were prosecuted. Security is a contract, a promise, which Bitcoin is not.
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"Bitcoin is in a [legal] gray area, because we don't know whether it's a currency, a commodity like gold,or a security" nyr.kr/qMTZGL
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October 23, 2011, 04:16:13 PM
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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!

That would be incredible. Let the world see our arguments in the open based on individual merit!

More openness to alternative viewpoints in the community please. Lets not stop challenging ourselves otherwise we will become dogmatic cultists repeating each others inbred lines. Vili represents a significant proportion of society who thinks along his lines. We can build a bridge to them.

You won't win people over by shutting them out or fighting them. Bitcoin is an inclusive thing, and there is no reason why everybody can't be accommodated. There is an enormous potential with Bitcoin for huge positive social good. And a whole lot more than mere anonymity and anti-authoritarianism.

By not being willing to also demonstrate the other aspects that make bitcoin so amazing, we are handing a victory to the naysayers who argue that bitcoin is a way for drug traffickers, criminals, terrorists and paedophiles to evade the law. Bitcoin is MUCH MORE than that.

It is something that will transform culture on the internet with funding models previously unimagined due to the simplicity, the divisibility and the extensible scripting system. It is a system that will weaken international borders and bring about an egalitarian inter-connected future for economics, how the internet transformed knowledge-transfer for information.
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October 23, 2011, 04:33:15 PM
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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!

That would be incredible. Let the world see our arguments in the open based on individual merit!

More openness to alternative viewpoints in the community please. Lets not stop challenging ourselves otherwise we will become dogmatic cultists repeating each others inbred lines. Vili represents a significant proportion of society who thinks along his lines. We can build a bridge to them.


You are still missing the point. Bitcoin was invented/designed to route around the intrusive regulatory aspects of central planning for monetary systems. That will never change. Of course, no one has stopped challenging themselves, but it is immature to think that you can adapt the bitcoin cryptocurrency into something suitable for the Statist apologists like Vili and the other significant portion of society that you cite. No one cares -- it's a distraction and red herring diverting attention away from more serious discussions (at this conference and any other forum). Have a conference on "Should Bitcoin Exist?" if that's what you want to discuss. Furthermore, you don't understand the essence of bitcoin if you believe that dismissing legal conformity and moving beyond it is "dogmatic" and "inbred".

Bitcoin exchanges are constantly under attack in various parts around the globe. Let's truly take your suggestion and "challenge ourselves" on creating decentralized exchanges and creating business models and paradigms that make fitting into the current institutional structure irrelevant. It is a perpetually losing battle to seek minor legal victories within the confines of an arbitrary, subjective court system.

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Great post, matonis.
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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!

That would be incredible. Let the world see our arguments in the open based on individual merit!

More openness to alternative viewpoints in the community please. Lets not stop challenging ourselves otherwise we will become dogmatic cultists repeating each others inbred lines. Vili represents a significant proportion of society who thinks along his lines. We can build a bridge to them.


You are still missing the point. Bitcoin was invented/designed to route around the intrusive regulatory aspects of central planning for monetary systems. That will never change. Of course, no one has stopped challenging themselves, but it is immature to think that you can adapt the bitcoin cryptocurrency into something suitable for the Statist apologists like Vili and the other significant portion of society that you cite. No one cares -- it's a distraction and red herring diverting attention away from more serious discussions (at this conference and any other forum). Have a conference on "Should Bitcoin Exist?" if that's what you want to discuss. Furthermore, you don't understand the essence of bitcoin if you believe that dismissing legal conformity and moving beyond it is "dogmatic" and "inbred".

Bitcoin exchanges are constantly under attack in various parts around the globe. Let's truly take your suggestion and "challenge ourselves" on creating decentralized exchanges and creating business models and paradigms that make fitting into the current institutional structure irrelevant. It is a perpetually losing battle to seek minor legal victories within the confines of an arbitrary, subjective court system.


Being belligerent and flaunting oneself as a direct threat to the status quo I don't think will be helpful for Bitcoin acceptance.
And if you are not interested in such acceptance than that would be "inbred" and all that genjix was saying, which I agree with.



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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!


Err no, however I would love to have an open panel discussion with some central bankers

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You are still missing the point. Bitcoin was invented/designed to route around the intrusive regulatory aspects of central planning for monetary systems.
Bitcoin itself is a tool and even if the rules of Bitcoin are pretty much set in stone, the way we deal with it as individuals and as a society can make for an interesting discussion.

I personally don't see a big problem if a hypothetical democratic government required businesses in its jurisdiction to accept Bitcoin payments only through a pool of officially registered Bitcoin addresses to enforce tax laws (as I mentioned in this thread).
The same hypothetical government could also have some control over the amount of Bitcoins in circulation by building up a currency reserve from taxes collected in BTC.

These are of course extremely speculative ideas, but discussing ways in which Bitcoin can fit into existing legal and governmental structures is certainly not a bad thing all by itself.

The nice thing is that everybody is free to use Bitcoin as they like and not everybody who likes this freedom wants to dismantle or undermine the courts and governments of this world at the same time. Even part-time revolutionists can find a home in the Bitcoin world Wink

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There is a professor that went to a Senate hearing in front of Ron Paul that wanted the U.S. to allow competing currencies including bitcoin.  He seems to be a good candidate for a speaker.
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Some fun facts for those that may not yet know:

Vili Lehdonvirta advocates regulation: "A New Frontier in Digital Content Policy: Case Studies in the Regulation of Virtual Goods and Artificial Scarcity"  http://www.hiit.fi/~vlehdonv/documents/Lehdonvirta-2010-virtual-goods-regulation.pdf

"We are working with the government to make sure indeed the long arm of the government can reach Bitcoin"
Jeff Garzik, Bitcoin Developer  http://rulingclass.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/bitcoin-and-agorism/

Donald Norman, the co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy,  advocates for Bitcoin's regulation, according to CNBC. "Norman is pushing to bring Bitcoin away from its roots and closer to a traditional currency — he is reaching out to regulators, looking to get legislation to oversee the system," says CNBC.  http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/this-is-what-will-really-crash-bitcoin.html?spref=tw

"In the UK, supporters of Bitcoin made an urgent appeal to the Financial Services Authority to regulate the largest London-based exchange, so as to reassure people that using Bitcoin is safe. "Unregulated businesses don't usual cry out for regulation," said Donald Norman, co-founder of the exchange Britcoin. "But because we are unusual, and because we are dealing with people's money, and because of all the scary stories around Bitcoin, we would like nothing more than to have a government authority looking into our accounts – especially now."  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/hack-attack-pushes-bitcoin-to-the-brink-2300384.html

Amir goes for bitcoin regulation (on national radio program):  http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3768:sat-june-25-2011&catid=20:show-archives&Itemid=44


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Some fun facts for those that may not yet know:

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"Fun"?? You, sir, have a bitter sense of irony.
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October 25, 2011, 12:11:57 PM
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I recommend also to consider Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry.
Great idea - that way we could be pretty sure to have the real Satoshi on board! You could make a contest on Sunday, with each of them explaining why they did not invent Bitcoin and let the audience decide on who gave the least convincing speech - winning him an "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" T-shirt Grin

On a more serious note: Vili Lehdonvirta would surely be an interesting guest for a talk or a panel discussion - I just hope that there is still enough time for each of the speakers!

That would be great, ill try and get in touch.

We have plenty of time for speakers, it wont be a problem.

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October 31, 2011, 08:00:49 AM
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Update: New speaker confirmed and we just about have a full line up.  We are heading over to Prague today to make sure everything runs smoothly, if you are in the neighbourhood get in touch.


New Speaker: Cameron Garnham

Cameron Garnham is a partner at TiguSoft.pl a company focused on
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financial industry is a key reason for its ongoing failure.
Cameron is an experienced advocate for technological solutions such as
Open Transactions and Bitcoin, which enable people to be in control of
their own finances.

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October 31, 2011, 10:07:23 AM
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How do I get a discount to the hotel? I have booked the flight, just hotel and conference left to pay.
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October 31, 2011, 11:13:46 AM
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http://conference.bitgroups.org/images/oziodownload/bitcoin_conference_registration_form_panorama_hotel_prague.pdf

download this form and send it in.


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Sure, but what is the rebate code? You ask people at the bottom of the main page to contact you for such a code.

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We can provide accommodations at the Panorama Hotel (walking distance from the conference hall) with a price of 54 eur + 10% VAT/night/person.
Please contact us to secure  a discount.

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Hi Mats,

Where is this quote from?

The price is included in the form.


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October 31, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
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Hi Mats,

Where is this quote from?

The price is included in the form.


The quote is at the very end of your own home page:

http://conference.bitgroups.org
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Even part-time revolutionists can find a home in the Bitcoin world Wink

lol. this goes onto my list of favorite bitcoin quotes.

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October 31, 2011, 11:52:59 AM
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Some fun facts for those that may not yet know:

Vili Lehdonvirta advocates regulation: "A New Frontier in Digital Content Policy: Case Studies in the Regulation of Virtual Goods and Artificial Scarcity"  http://www.hiit.fi/~vlehdonv/documents/Lehdonvirta-2010-virtual-goods-regulation.pdf

"We are working with the government to make sure indeed the long arm of the government can reach Bitcoin"
Jeff Garzik, Bitcoin Developer  http://rulingclass.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/bitcoin-and-agorism/

Donald Norman, the co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy,  advocates for Bitcoin's regulation, according to CNBC. "Norman is pushing to bring Bitcoin away from its roots and closer to a traditional currency — he is reaching out to regulators, looking to get legislation to oversee the system," says CNBC.  http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/this-is-what-will-really-crash-bitcoin.html?spref=tw

"In the UK, supporters of Bitcoin made an urgent appeal to the Financial Services Authority to regulate the largest London-based exchange, so as to reassure people that using Bitcoin is safe. "Unregulated businesses don't usual cry out for regulation," said Donald Norman, co-founder of the exchange Britcoin. "But because we are unusual, and because we are dealing with people's money, and because of all the scary stories around Bitcoin, we would like nothing more than to have a government authority looking into our accounts – especially now."  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/hack-attack-pushes-bitcoin-to-the-brink-2300384.html

Amir goes for bitcoin regulation (on national radio program):  http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3768:sat-june-25-2011&catid=20:show-archives&Itemid=44



They're trying to make their exchange (intersango, formerly britcoin) function in the future. Something mtgox is also trying, but without much success (see french central bank and court-case). For the bitcoinconsultancy crowd, in my mind, it's about securing the working of exchange of BTC to FIAT. It's not about changing the inner workings of bitcoin itself. I doubt they'd attempt to do that.

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October 31, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
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Hi Mats,

Where is this quote from?

The price is included in the form.


The quote is at the very end of your own home page:

http://conference.bitgroups.org


Cheesrs Mats, will fix that up.

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They're trying to make their exchange (intersango, formerly britcoin) function in the future. Something mtgox is also trying, but without much success (see french central bank and court-case). For the bitcoinconsultancy crowd, in my mind, it's about securing the working of exchange of BTC to FIAT. It's not about changing the inner workings of bitcoin itself. I doubt they'd attempt to do that.


Securing the workings of an exchange is a jurisdictional issue, with regulations as varied as the number of countries. Choosing to domicile an exchange in the US or UK is of course a conscious decision but it undoubtedly has ramifications for the majority of traders that will choose another jurisdiction for their exchange business. This is evidenced by the lack of support for US-based exchanges. It will become even more apparent for transactions and transfers in excess of 500 USD or 500 EUR. I believe that the win for bitcoin exchanges will come from selecting jurisdictions (or legal arrangements) that are more forward looking in their approach to bitcoin rather than attempting to "beg" or "work" for regulatory recognition as a currency. More latitude will be afforded to bitcoin as a non-currency.

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Do anybody plan to sell Casascius coins on conference? It would be nice to buy few of them without paying overseas post...

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Do anybody plan to sell Casascius coins on conference? It would be nice to buy few of them without paying overseas post...

Slush I can bring you a few.  how many do you want?

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Invite Bill Still the monetary reformist! I'm sure he would be very interested in this debt free money system
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The program is just about full with another confirmed speaker:

Simon Dixon of http://banktothefuture.com/

Will update the subject of his talk soon.

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Nice!

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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!
Don't worry, they will be there even without invitation.
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Protip: Europe is not america.  Roll Eyes Your fbi and cia are powerless her  Cheesy Sure they can start insulting us bitcoin users but that's all   Cheesy

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CIA, FBI, Taliban and wikileaks will be there.

Wikileaks are the only ones that have announced their intention though.
Julian Assange may be doing a pre recorded talk and they have offered their spokesperson also.


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Do anybody plan to sell Casascius coins on conference? It would be nice to buy few of them without paying overseas post...

Slush I can bring you a few.  how many do you want?
Bring as much as you can!
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I would love to invite the CIA or FBI to debate bitcoin!
The CIA don't come to Bitcoin conferences, they just invite the Bitcoin lead developer to talk.

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Slush I can bring you a few.  how many do you want?
Bring as much as you can!
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I'd be willing to buy a few as well!

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Do anybody plan to sell Casascius coins on conference? It would be nice to buy few of them without paying overseas post...

Slush I can bring you a few.  how many do you want?
Bring as much as you can!
+1
I'd be willing to buy a few as well!

the casascius guy agreed to sell me a bunch of cheap coins if I buy in bulk. if you all message me, then we can maybe do something like we all pool our monies and everybody gets a share of X coins to do whatever they want with (resell them at the conference for profit .etc).

If there's sufficient interest then I'll make a new thread and get the casascius guy to post. Then we'll have the coins shipped directly to the conference venue.
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surely some of the exchanges there will sell some btc too right? Cheesy

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the casascius guy agreed to sell me a bunch of cheap coins if I buy in bulk. if you all message me, then we can maybe do something like we all pool our monies and everybody gets a share of X coins to do whatever they want with (resell them at the conference for profit .etc).

If there's sufficient interest then I'll make a new thread and get the casascius guy to post. Then we'll have the coins shipped directly to the conference venue.
That's a very good idea - please do start a new thread for this!

A bulk order shipped to the conference venue with some cost advantage would be great. I also would be very interested in the new gold plated bars! They will make for awesome Christmas presents this year Cheesy

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the casascius guy agreed to sell me a bunch of cheap coins if I buy in bulk. if you all message me, then we can maybe do something like we all pool our monies and everybody gets a share of X coins to do whatever they want with (resell them at the conference for profit .etc).

If there's sufficient interest then I'll make a new thread and get the casascius guy to post. Then we'll have the coins shipped directly to the conference venue.
That's a very good idea - please do start a new thread for this!

A bulk order shipped to the conference venue with some cost advantage would be great. I also would be very interested in the new gold plated bars! They will make for awesome Christmas presents this year Cheesy

+1 I want some too ! Goldplated bars and cascasius coins !

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+1 I want some too ! Goldplated bars and cascasius coins !
Obviously, casascius has to establish production capacity in Europe.  Smiley
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OK, I posted a pledge thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51070.0

I PMed the Casascius guy to let him know.
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If you want to sponsor Max Keisers film "European Bitcoin - Prague"... you can now do so using Bitcoin by buying glbse-shares of issue MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm.

Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.0

(This is related because Max will be talking at the conference and because the 26 minute film will probably (I'm assumning) include footage from the conference)

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Ticket prices are reduced to 75€ as we have a major sponsor paying us some money Smiley


Looking forward to seeing you in Prague.

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Ticket prices are reduced to 75€ as we have a major sponsor paying us some money Smiley

Looking forward to seeing you in Prague.

Awesome! 

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Ticket prices are reduced to 75€ as we have a major sponsor paying us some money Smiley


Looking forward to seeing you in Prague.

Nice! This might change my status from "wont come" to "will come" Wink

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How can I know that I have a valid ticket reservation? I have some 5 mails from you starting with "Dear Conference Registrants," but somehow not having payed feels like it's only a reservation valid until yesterday. If things are all set and clear, I wouldn't mind paying asap getting rid of this maybe-feeling.

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How can I know that I have a valid ticket reservation? I have some 5 mails from you starting with "Dear Conference Registrants," but somehow not having payed feels like it's only a reservation valid until yesterday. If things are all set and clear, I wouldn't mind paying asap getting rid of this maybe-feeling.


We will be sending an email out with payment instructions today for people that have registered.  If you havent registered please go to the site now and do so http://conference.bitgroups.org/

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Can you call him to the conference? Smiley
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Can you call him to the conference? Smiley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSazz4mtYM

Awesome! Lew Rockwell. Like him. "we need monetary decentralization"... hehe

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Having Lew Rockwell, also as a guest, would be awesome! Cheesy

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Invite sent, but its a little close to be optimistic.

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just registered together with a "non-bitcoin" friend.

we're probably driving by car from stuttgart on friday. If anyone wants a ride.... PM me.


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just registered together with a "non-bitcoin" friend.

we're probably driving by car from stuttgart on friday. If anyone wants a ride.... PM me.

Via Munich is a 100km detour but if for any reason you do it, post again Wink

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Posting mainly to follow this thread.
I'm from Ireland, but I would very much like to attend at this conference.

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I filled out the registration form.

Would expect some kind of email or payment instructions... nothing since 2 days.

What's up with that?

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I filled out the registration form.

Would expect some kind of email or payment instructions... nothing since 2 days.

What's up with that?

Hi, You caught us on the weekend. Staff need some time off but no doubt you will hear from us tomorrow.

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I filled out the registration form.

Would expect some kind of email or payment instructions... nothing since 2 days.

What's up with that?

Hi, You caught us on the weekend. Staff need some time off but no doubt you will hear from us tomorrow.

Allright, thanks, no problem.

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New speaker confirmed for the conference:

Peter Kleisner http://web17.webbpro.de/index.php?page=peter-kleissner

Here are a few topics he will cover:


-          Current BitCoin Malware in the wild

-          How to write a bitcoin stealer/miner and how to analyze/reverse it

-          SecureCoin: Sample plugin for the official BitCoin client to secure wallet with the current user token

-          New approach: Redirecting BitCoin transactions like web-inject malware like ZeuS and SpyEye are doing on wires

Its time to get your ticket, the conference is looking fantastic!

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From website:
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The access from following countries is denied: Austria, Germany, Czech.

lol, I need Tor to visit his pages.

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http://simonhunt.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/truecrypt-vs-peter-kleissner-or-stoned-bootkit-revisited/

he has quite a few links around the web, should be an interesting talk.

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I hope there will be live video coverage  Cheesy And i mean a decent one!

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I hope there will be live video coverage  Cheesy And i mean a decent one!

It's undecided yet, we are leaning towards releasing polished edited videos asap after the event.  If we get some donations for a live feed then it would definitely help.

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I'm looking forward to the content, hopefully the videos can be uploaded soon after the event. That's important. The stream for me is not that important because it requires some significant effort to actually be able to get a high quality stream. Personally I'd rather just wait for good quality vids rather than watch poor quality stream. So if you do stream, do it properly, if it can't be done properly, don't do it at all.

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I'm looking forward to the content, hopefully the videos can be uploaded soon after the event. That's important. The stream for me is not that important because it requires some significant effort to actually be able to get a high quality stream. Personally I'd rather just wait for good quality vids rather than watch poor quality stream. So if you do stream, do it properly, if it can't be done properly, don't do it at all.

+1

As I will be busy at the time when the conference will be held, I myself am not impatient either, just please don't ommit anything Smiley

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There hasn't been much hype for Bitcoin lately. Are there any interesting developments to be announced at this conference?

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There hasn't been much hype for Bitcoin lately. Are there any interesting developments to be announced at this conference?

Yes.
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There hasn't been much hype for Bitcoin lately. Are there any interesting developments to be announced at this conference?

Yes.

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There hasn't been much hype for Bitcoin lately. Are there any interesting developments to be announced at this conference?

Yes.

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I can't wait :-)

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Would it be possible just to come to Prague and pay on the spot, €75 in plain cash?
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It's possible, however we can't reserve any places until payment is received so to avoid disappointment I would recommend paying earlier.

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http://bitgroups.org/pdf/official_program.pdf

Official program is complete, have a look at it, we think it's pretty good.

Also a couple of points, if you do a bank transfer without contacting us, we will not have an email to contact you on for important information.  Please always email us if you have paid.

We have also started using bit-pay on the site to take conference payments, it's a very nice solution, thanks Tony!

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The image at the top of the pdf says www.bitgroups.com -  looks like it should be www.bitgroups.org though.. right?

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The image at the top of the pdf says www.bitgroups.com -  looks like it should be www.bitgroups.org though.. right?

Thanks for that, fixing now.

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I hope there will be live video coverage  Cheesy And i mean a decent one!

It's undecided yet, we are leaning towards releasing polished edited videos asap after the event.  If we get some donations for a live feed then it would definitely help.

feel free to make a donation.

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We have also started using bit-pay on the site to take conference payments, it's a very nice solution, thanks Tony!


Great!  Now the bitcoin conference can accept bitcoins automatically for the ticket payments!  Anyone can pay for their admission 24/7 with up-to-the-minute Euro pricing. 

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This actually looks really good.  I am thinking about attending next year.  Can't wait to check out the videos of the conference.  Hopefully the videos will be in HD so I can burn it on to DVDs for friends.
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We have also started using bit-pay on the site to take conference payments, it's a very nice solution, thanks Tony!


Great!  Now the bitcoin conference can accept bitcoins automatically for the ticket payments!  Anyone can pay for their admission 24/7 with up-to-the-minute Euro pricing. 

Bit-pay has been a life saver.  It's incredibly busy here in the office putting the final touches on everything, having to email attendees with a price that's valid until the price changes was a real pain. 

This actually looks really good.  I am thinking about attending next year.  Can't wait to check out the videos of the conference.  Hopefully the videos will be in HD so I can burn it on to DVDs for friends.

You can do that, or you can also view them on Youtube.  Our main focus is producing high quality videos of every talk, after all the effort that's gone in it would be a waste to churn out low quality vids.

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Make sure to record from two or more angles and especially to have a recording in case one or more of the cameras experiences technical difficulties...
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Make sure to record from two or more angles and especially to have a recording in case one or more of the cameras experiences technical difficulties...

It also gives the cutter something to do Wink

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What happened to Vladimir's talk?

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What happened to Vladimir's talk?

Vladimir Pulled out last week due to scheduling issues.

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It also gives the cutter something to do Wink
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The guy editing the vids, however we don't have a spare cameraman or video so we will just do a good job with one.

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It's time to print, please get in touch with us if you havent registered yet so we can print your welcome pack.


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The guy editing the vids, however we don't have a spare cameraman or video so we will just do a good job with one.

I can bring my cam. it's consumer grade, a canon hf 100, records 720p to avchd sdcard.

I don't have a tripod, though. I'll look around for a tripod...

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The guy editing the vids, however we don't have a spare cameraman or video so we will just do a good job with one.

I can bring my cam. it's consumer grade, a canon hf 100, records 720p to avchd sdcard.

I don't have a tripod, though. I'll look around for a tripod...


Sure that works for us, thanks!

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If you're going to spend money on something, make it audio. A good lavalier or shotgun mic will make the sound much clearer and the whole video more enjoyable. If you input to your lockdown camera, you'll have a good A source to edit to. Cutaways can be photos, stills, or a second camcorder if you have one.

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If you're going to spend money on something, make it audio. A good lavalier or shotgun mic will make the sound much clearer and the whole video more enjoyable. If you input to your lockdown camera, you'll have a good A source to edit to. Cutaways can be photos, stills, or a second camcorder if you have one.

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https://www.bitstamp.net/

Thanks to BitStamp for their support in sponsoring the conference.

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[url]https://solidbitshop.com/[url]

Thanks to SolidBitShop for sponsoring the conference.

An automatic BTC/SC accepting e-shop.

Sounds interesting!


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ftfy https://solidbitshop.com/
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thanks, we are pretty busy here right now, heading to prague tomorrow.
Apologies to https://solidbitshop.com/

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Ok, so I'm bringing my cam and I have a tripod from a friend.

Do you guys have sound recording solution? will the PA be used?

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It's kind of last minute, but maybe coordinate with local hackerspaces to assist with recording?

http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Brmlab
http://brmlab.cz/

http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/PiSeC
http://www.kufr.cz/

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We have written a short "MultiBit themed" press release for the European Bitcoin Conference:


EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011 PRESS RELEASE

Making Money From Other People's Passions
Dedicated geeks give away software worth tens of thousands of euros at the 2011 European Bitcoin Conference.

Read full press release:
http://multibit.org/news/eurobit2011.html



It is written for journalists covering the conference from the business/ accountancy angle.


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jim, I love you. That was a snappy heart-warmer that made me feel good about free software Smiley
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Thanks!
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thanks, we are pretty busy here right now, heading to prague tomorrow.
Apologies to https://solidbitshop.com/


No problem at all.


Anyway. Apart from conference, we would like to propose a "Donation to Bitcoin Community" For those who support bitcoins and its ideas. Even for those that didn't supported the idea, coz now they can see that bitcoin rocks.

So, for a donation. SolidBitShop will buy Your bitcoins, with exchange ratio of two times greater that it is now: - 00:04 24-11-2011 UTC - 2,3138$ x 2 = 4,6276$:

Which means, for the same amount of bitcoins you can get 2x more from the shop. and even have half the shipping.

This even will take place, under the same time with oppening and closing European Bitcoin Conference in Prague.

So we start at: Friday, November 25 15:00 CET
We finish at: Sunday, November 27 17:00 CET


Have a nice hunting.


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Will there be anyone selling bitcoins for cash (euros) during the conference?
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There will surely be lots of people selling them Cheesy...i know because i am planning on buying a few..

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There will surely be lots of people selling them Cheesy...i know because i am planning on buying a few..

Heh, that does not compute. Just because you're planning to buy doesn't mean people will be selling (depending on price).

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I think there will be few people selling them ;-). Only depends on amount, mine is limited to few hundreds USD (actually I'm selling mtgoxusd traded time ago for higher than current price, I don't want to sell at current price as I'm a bull).

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I think there will be few people selling them ;-). Only depends on amount, mine is limited to few hundreds USD (actually I'm selling mtgoxusd traded time ago for higher than current price, I don't want to sell at current price as I'm a bull).

I might be interested in buying some mtgox USD from you (I think it's time to buy). Would you accept EUR cash?


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Make sure to record from two or more angles and especially to have a recording in case one or more of the cameras experiences technical difficulties...

And with speakers who have slides or other multimedia presentations it is good to have one camera
on the slides and another on the speaker himself and it can can edited to show the better view at the
right time. 

It is frustrating to watch a video of a speaker saying something, "Now this graph shows...",
with the camera staying on the speaker and one never gets to see that graph.  And constantly
panning back and forth with one camera, and perhaps refocusing, can look unprofessional and
be disconcerting.   

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Make sure to record from two or more angles and especially to have a recording in case one or more of the cameras experiences technical difficulties...

And with speakers who have slides or other multimedia presentations it is good to have one camera
on the slides and another on the speaker himself and it can can edited to show the better view at the
right time. 

It is frustrating to watch a video of a speaker saying something, "Now this graph shows...",
with the camera staying on the speaker and one never gets to see that graph.  And constantly
panning back and forth with one camera, and perhaps refocusing, can look unprofessional and
be disconcerting.   



If you can't do that, it helps to get a copy of the Power Point slides

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Lights are always the most expensive equipment at movie making. It helps the final look a lot (3-point lighting, if possible):

Key light (main light), Fill light (softer one, helps the contrast), Back light (also called "hair light", it helps the contour, a back light de-attach the subject from the background, and looks nice), and if feasible, a Background light.



And good shotgun mics.
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I just returned from short pub session with Mitch (wordly), Tony from bit-pay and few other guys who are already in Prague. Firstly, casascius coins are really nice and everybody wanted them too! Too sad that two people convinced me and I sold some of coins to them. Poor slush. Good thing is that I sold them for bitcoins using Bitcoin wallet on Android, my first real face2face transaction using mobile phones. It was smoother and faster than I expected!

Then, I finally saw some of prepared (and still secret) projects using bitcoin and I must see - really cool! I laughted a lot especially because of p***coin.

Now I have no doubts that conference will be wonderful event.

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wonderful news, too bad I can't join you.

make sure you report back EVRYTHING :-)

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Wow, interesting! Too bad i can't partecipate

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slush i'm at the hackerspace staying at prusnak's house. cya tomorrow

BTW i will be selling bitcoins since i need CZK. dont like to pay the scammy money changers.

i'll be in prague for a week hanging around the hackerspace. we're planning on doing a bunch of after conference events and workshops here.
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genjix, give my regards to Pavol, now I finally understand why is brmlab mentioned in conference program ;-). That "after conference event" is probably also (periodic) brmlab's Bitcoin seminar planned to beginning of the next week, it will be great to have you on the board :-).

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slush i'm at the hackerspace staying at prusnak's house. cya tomorrow

BTW i will be selling bitcoins since i need CZK. dont like to pay the scammy money changers.

i'll be in prague for a week hanging around the hackerspace. we're planning on doing a bunch of after conference events and workshops here.

Tomorrow we can pay for everything over the bar with btc using bit-pay in the hard rock cafe.  im sure there will be plenty of people that need btc so you can exchange some for czk

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slush i'm at the hackerspace staying at prusnak's house. cya tomorrow

BTW i will be selling bitcoins since i need CZK. dont like to pay the scammy money changers.

i'll be in prague for a week hanging around the hackerspace. we're planning on doing a bunch of after conference events and workshops here.

Tomorrow we can pay for everything over the bar with btc using bit-pay in the hard rock cafe.  im sure there will be plenty of people that need btc so you can exchange some for czk

haha, it seems the conference is already generating some real life bitcoin demand here. Very nice to see this.

I originally planned to leave on sunday afternoon back to hamburg. Maybe I'll stay a little longer for whatever goes down in the hackerspace and enjoy...

Too bad I only arrive Friday late at night. We (a friend and I). It'll be around 23:00 at night, I guess. I don't know if it makes sense to try to meet up with people at that point. I'm guessing the Conference Center will be empty at that time? Where are you guys (slush, genjix, ...) going to be Friday night? At the hackerspace, at some bar, ...? Maybe it makes more sense to go to sleep early to be fit for a long Saturday... not sure.

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If you'll be lurking around after the conference with me and slush then I wouldn't stress it. A conference is meant to be fun. It should be good. The hackerspace people are affable.
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slush i'm at the hackerspace staying at prusnak's house. cya tomorrow

BTW i will be selling bitcoins since i need CZK. dont like to pay the scammy money changers.

i'll be in prague for a week hanging around the hackerspace. we're planning on doing a bunch of after conference events and workshops here.

Tomorrow we can pay for everything over the bar with btc using bit-pay in the hard rock cafe.  im sure there will be plenty of people that need btc so you can exchange some for czk

haha, it seems the conference is already generating some real life bitcoin demand here. Very nice to see this.

I originally planned to leave on sunday afternoon back to hamburg. Maybe I'll stay a little longer for whatever goes down in the hackerspace and enjoy...

Too bad I only arrive Friday late at night. We (a friend and I). It'll be around 23:00 at night, I guess. I don't know if it makes sense to try to meet up with people at that point. I'm guessing the Conference Center will be empty at that time? Where are you guys (slush, genjix, ...) going to be Friday night? At the hackerspace, at some bar, ...? Maybe it makes more sense to go to sleep early to be fit for a long Saturday... not sure.


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Aren't you going to make any live streaming of that conference?  Sad

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People keep asking me about conference videos:

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Some us were able to spend our Bitcoins on beer today at the Hard Rock Cafe in Prague.  The wi-fi sucked, but we still got through.   The price of a beer is 50 kroner, or 1.05 bitcoins!  I will take 2 more beers please!

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Some us were able to spend our Bitcoins on beer today at the Hard Rock Cafe in Prague.  The wi-fi sucked, but we still got through.   The price of a beer is 50 kroner, or 1.05 bitcoins!  I will take 2 more beers please!

Pics pics pics!

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Some us were able to spend our Bitcoins on beer today at the Hard Rock Cafe in Prague.  The wi-fi sucked, but we still got through.   The price of a beer is 50 kroner, or 1.05 bitcoins!  I will take 2 more beers please!

cool. This fact alone is worth a short news article!

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If anyone at the conference is still looking to buy some BTC or BTC-shirts: I can hook you up. Wink

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1st session finished at the conference, met max kaiser, Rick falkvinge and loads of forum members. Apologies for not remembering everyone's name, its been a busy few months. Tomorrow is going to be fantastic, looking forward to it.

Thanks to tony from bit-pay for making the night bitcoin friendly, sorry about the rubbish WiFi in hard rock but I still managed to eat and drink in bitcoin.

Amir I have 12 bitcoins in my wallet that are yours.

We will try to get some footage out soon so we can share the experience with those that couldn't make it.

It's been nice to put names to faces, I encourage everyone to put their forum name on their badges tomorrow, we have marker pens at rego desk.



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What guy Wink.  I hope you all have a great time.  I wish I could be there.  I'm anxious to see some pictures/footage, but I'll just have to wait.  Focus on having a great conference and I'm sure there will be plenty for us onlookers afterwards.

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Hope you all have fun.

Yeah, sitting in the conference room a bit early, setup the cam and waiting for people to shuffle in. Should be fun.

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i might be coming just checked with my charter and got a veryvery good offer for a short trip form frankfurt to prague.

so if anybody wanst to join, we´ll share fair, departing at about 13:00. pm me!

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Max Keiser just concluded a panel discussion on stage, and I was one of the participants. There was also a lawyer, an economist, a banker, and a technology guru. it was a really great talk!

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Max Keiser just concluded a panel discussion on stage, and I was one of the participants. There was also a lawyer, an economist, a banker, and a technology guru. it was a really great talk!

This was actually kind of the highlight of the talks for me. You guys could've probably discussed things for a whole day or two Wink, although there was a lot of agreement, there still seemed to be some differences, especially regarding economics (oh wonder Wink

Congrats, Tony, also on your great talk and thanks for setting that goal (1 million bitcoin users within a year).


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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

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Mitchell Bourne is an Australian wandering Romania without a fixed address ( google him) .  He demanded that our firm www.fnib.co send him a wire transfer of US$5000 to cover his costs in Prague.  We cut all ties.  He has slandered our name in retaliation and pressured this forum to censor our posts.  We will go to the press about him and this forum.  We will nor shut up.

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Dude - not a single person who is actually at the conference is saying a single bad thing about it or Mitchell. Nobody is corroborating your story, and you have no credibility anyway. So, you're kinda making a fool of yourself at this point.

And who the hell cares if he doesn't have a "fixed address" and is "wandering"...? That seems to be your primary attack vector and it's pretty silly, as if a proper Australian ought to stay at his home in Australia!

With your posts, you're slandering your own name more than Mitchell has... so if you're going to report him you may as well turn yourself over to the reputation police because you're your own worst enemy at this point.
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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

BitTalk.TV would have streamed it live unfortunately there are no 'press passes' and I think that's probably what's keeping any serious media out.

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Re: European Bitcoin Conference

Mitchell Bourne is an Australian wandering Romania without a fixed address ( google him) .  He demanded that our firm www.fnib.co send him a wire transfer of US$5000 to cover his costs in Prague.  We cut all ties.  He has slandered our name in retaliation and pressured this forum to censor our posts.  We will go to the press about him and this forum.  We will nor shut up.

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  No offense if this is a legitimate issue. Maybe you should have discussed things more clearly about what was expected from your end if you actually believe what you are saying in regards to the request for money seeming some how wrong..  Without you giving out some concrete info in relation to what exactly your agreement was and why you were under the impression that having a spot there was without cost then there is no reason I see to take your side.  No one is attacking you, or accusing you, but you are indeed doing just that, and without providing any proof what so ever of your claims....

  And furthermore, adding in things like, "Australian wandering Romania without a fixed address" as some sort of measure to make him seem less professional or whatever the intention, is very childish. There are many highly professional, active, go getter business types out there that live very modestly, and yes, move a LOT. This hardly makes one less credible.

  Well, to everyone at the confrence, wish I was there it sounds awesome. Can't wait to catch some of the videos.


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No dude, we are not slandering our name and we are not commenting on the conference itself; rather we are reacting to previous comments, including Mitchell Bourne's, since he decided to retaliate by slandering us, and we will not stop, we will not be censored or shouted down. We will take this to the financial press if need be.   Count on us, dude.   And we dont need the approval of the trolls on this forum or the forum admin, and frankly  we dont need your business dollars either.  This forum isnt really about business anyway, its about arguments, and we will win this argument.  Grin

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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

BitTalk.TV would have streamed it live unfortunately there are no 'press passes' and I think that's probably what's keeping any serious media out.

There was press, spiegel.de was one that stands out but Its been a very busy few days and I can't recall the other names right now. Press passes were available definitely, sorry we didn't get the message out to everyone.
No dude, we are not slandering our name and we are not commenting on the conference itself; rather we are reacting to previous comments, including Mitchell Bourne's, since he decided to retaliate by slandering us, and we will not stop, we will not be censored or shouted down. We will take this to the financial press if need be.   Count on us, dude.   And we dont need the approval of the trolls on this forum or the forum admin, and frankly  we dont need your business dollars either.  This forum isnt really about business anyway, its about arguments, and we will win this argument.  Grin

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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

BitTalk.TV would have streamed it live unfortunately there are no 'press passes' and I think that's probably what's keeping any serious media out.

There was press, spiegel.de was one that stands out but Its been a very busy few days and I can't recall the other names right now. Press passes were available definitely, sorry we didn't get the message out to everyone.

Usually a press pass means that the press are allowed in without needing to pay an admission fee (since they are not there for the purpose of enjoying the show, but just helping the presenters to spread the word). If I am wrong in my definition then I'll be happy to clarify.

There may be press passes, but press needs to pay to get in, and that may be what is keeping many serious media out.

I hope somebody is going to stream it though-- this lackluster history of bitcoin conventions we have going on in our community isn't help us much.


No dude, we are not slandering our name and we are not commenting on the conference itself; rather we are reacting to previous comments, including Mitchell Bourne's, since he decided to retaliate by slandering us, and we will not stop, we will not be censored or shouted down. We will take this to the financial press if need be.   Count on us, dude.   And we dont need the approval of the trolls on this forum or the forum admin, and frankly  we dont need your business dollars either.  This forum isnt really about business anyway, its about arguments, and we will win this argument.  Grin

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Don't even bother with him. His post is off-topic and it will be removed. He'll also be banned if he keeps posting off-topic. As for his arguments about 'never giving up', frankly he's already lost and he's going to have his ass handed to him in front of 30,000 viewers on bittalk.tv come this Christmas during our Christmas Special. People need to learn that when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

BitTalk.TV would have streamed it live unfortunately there are no 'press passes' and I think that's probably what's keeping any serious media out.

There was press, spiegel.de was one that stands out but Its been a very busy few days and I can't recall the other names right now. Press passes were available definitely, sorry we didn't get the message out to everyone.

Usually a press pass means that the press are allowed in without needing to pay an admission fee (since they are not there for the purpose of enjoying the show, but just helping the presenters to spread the word). If I am wrong in my definition then I'll be happy to clarify.

There may be press passes, but press needs to pay to get in, and that may be what is keeping many serious media out.

I hope somebody is going to stream it though-- this lackluster history of bitcoin conventions we have going on in our community isn't help us much.


No dude, we are not slandering our name and we are not commenting on the conference itself; rather we are reacting to previous comments, including Mitchell Bourne's, since he decided to retaliate by slandering us, and we will not stop, we will not be censored or shouted down. We will take this to the financial press if need be.   Count on us, dude.   And we dont need the approval of the trolls on this forum or the forum admin, and frankly  we dont need your business dollars either.  This forum isnt really about business anyway, its about arguments, and we will win this argument.  Grin

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Don't even bother with him. His post is off-topic and it will be removed. He'll also be banned if he keeps posting off-topic. As for his arguments about 'never giving up', frankly he's already lost and he's going to have his ass handed to him in front of 30,000 viewers on bittalk.tv come this Christmas during our Christmas Special. People need to learn that when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

Press passes were available for free,your definition is correct.
We had a guy coming for free that was offering professional streaming however he pulled out and we just had so many things to do, we didn't have the resources. Would have taken you up on the offer in a heartbeat.

We did focus on content and we have so much of it we will be releasing it every day for the next month. Unfortunately I didn't get to talk properly with many people or even take in the talks as there was just so much to do, tomorrow i look forward to chatting with people at lunch and the hackerspace as my official duties are pretty much over.

I'll be heading back home to Romania Monday and start on some production Tuesday so we can share with everyone what just happened.

I'll at least get some photos up tomorrow, there were a lot of cameras so others should too.


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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

BitTalk.TV would have streamed it live unfortunately there are no 'press passes' and I think that's probably what's keeping any serious media out.

There was press, spiegel.de was one that stands out but Its been a very busy few days and I can't recall the other names right now. Press passes were available definitely, sorry we didn't get the message out to everyone.

Usually a press pass means that the press are allowed in without needing to pay an admission fee (since they are not there for the purpose of enjoying the show, but just helping the presenters to spread the word). If I am wrong in my definition then I'll be happy to clarify.

There may be press passes, but press needs to pay to get in, and that may be what is keeping many serious media out.

I hope somebody is going to stream it though-- this lackluster history of bitcoin conventions we have going on in our community isn't help us much.


No dude, we are not slandering our name and we are not commenting on the conference itself; rather we are reacting to previous comments, including Mitchell Bourne's, since he decided to retaliate by slandering us, and we will not stop, we will not be censored or shouted down. We will take this to the financial press if need be.   Count on us, dude.   And we dont need the approval of the trolls on this forum or the forum admin, and frankly  we dont need your business dollars either.  This forum isnt really about business anyway, its about arguments, and we will win this argument.  Grin

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Don't even bother with him. His post is off-topic and it will be removed. He'll also be banned if he keeps posting off-topic. As for his arguments about 'never giving up', frankly he's already lost and he's going to have his ass handed to him in front of 30,000 viewers on bittalk.tv come this Christmas during our Christmas Special. People need to learn that when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

Press passes were available for free,your definition is correct.
We had a guy coming for free that was offering professional streaming however he pulled out and we just had so many things to do, we didn't have the resources. Would have taken you up on the offer in a heartbeat.

We did focus on content and we have so much of it we will be releasing it every day for the next month. Unfortunately I didn't get to talk properly with many people or even take in the talks as there was just so much to do, tomorrow i look forward to chatting with people at lunch and the hackerspace as my official duties are pretty much over.

I'll be heading back home to Romania Monday and start on some production Tuesday so we can share with everyone what just happened.

I'll at least get some photos up tomorrow, there were a lot of cameras so others should too.



Looking forward to it!

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Hackerspace party is sick. The hackerspace is holding a party and everyone came here. All night long Smiley
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Hackerspace party is sick. The hackerspace is holding a party and everyone came here. All night long Smiley

Amir goes to hacker space and we go to the strip clubs.  See, Prague has something for everyone! 

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Is there any press there, besides Max and Stacy?

There we're quite a few journalists taking photos and notes. One was recording the talks to audio but did not interview people. He looked like an old-school journalist from a newspaper to me, which was pretty interesting to think about when Rick Falkvinge talked about disruptions in "news and media" Wink.

A journalist from "Der Spiegel Online" (online-version of a major german weekly). Talked to him after at the brmlab hackerspace (nice place, thanks for cool party, brmlab people (they even had girls!)). Apparently there will be a small piece in the "Science and Technology" section of the print Edition.

The talks were recorded with one cam by Mitch and another one by me (and more). I gave Mitchell all my recordings (and will get his on request). The audio was recorded directly from the PA system, so the material should be good. Be patient, though, it's a lot of stuff and someone has to edit it.

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Hackerspace party is sick. The hackerspace is holding a party and everyone came here. All night long Smiley

Amir goes to hacker space and we go to the strip clubs.  See, Prague has something for everyone! 

Did you take Max?

Hope you had a great time!

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I was talking with this guy in the colosseum pizzeria, he's from some economic newspaper and he was interested mainly in the mining. I tried to explain him economic aspect of the mining and about auto-regulation of the network. He looked like he catched it, however i don't know what he's thinking about bitcoin overall...

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I was surprised too. It looks like pretty smart camouflage, like Potemkin's village Wink

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One was recording the talks to audio but did not interview people. He looked like an old-school journalist from a newspaper to me

I was talking with this guy in the colosseum pizzeria, he's from some economic newspaper and he was interested mainly in the mining. I tried to explain him economic aspect of the mining and about auto-regulation of the network. He looked like he catched it, however i don't know what he's thinking about bitcoin overall...

  Probably looking for soundbites he could use that would reinforce whatever distorted view he feels best fits his paper or readers....

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Here are a few pics i had on my camera, mainly behind the scenes stuff, dont worry im not the official photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70833481@N05/?saved=1

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Did you take Max?

Hope you had a great time!

Nope, Max and Stacy just went back to the hotel.  It was good to finally meet you!

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I knew one girl in my life who was a stripper. I also knew one girl in my life who had herpes. They were one and the same.

You probably know more than one girl with herpes, you just don't know which ones.

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RE: press.

There was a guy from a Norwegian newspaper (a businessey journal I think he said) taking notes and photos with a nice SLR camera.

Thanks to Mitch for organising this conference - it has been excellent fun.  I especially liked the running order, with the tech presentations in the morning and it gradually getting more social/ general/ controversial as the day progressed.   I noticed that the hall had - hmm - 200 (?) in the morning but when I looked round in the evening when Max Keiser was speaking there were a *lot* more than that.

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I wish I could have been there... Maybe next time though Smiley

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Did you take Max?

Hope you had a great time!

Nope, Max and Stacy just went back to the hotel.  It was good to finally meet you!

Same here, really ncie to to put faces to people Wink. I also heard you apparently _did_ have a great time, lol. Way to go.

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Thank you Mitchell for organizing a great event!

I very much enjoyed the program, the great lineup and meeting all those interesting people from the Bitcoin community!

I really appreciate all the effort you put into making this conference a reality and I'm already looking forward to the next Wink

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when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

I don't think they are worried.  You can't get herpes twice.





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when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

I don't think they are worried.  You can't get herpes twice.


Can you??

I guess if you already have the same type of herpes, you just get a different kind instead.

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when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

I don't think they are worried.  You can't get herpes twice.


Can you??

I guess if you already have the same type of herpes, you just get a different kind instead.

Ask a doctor, not trolls.

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when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

I don't think they are worried.  You can't get herpes twice.


Can you??

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Here are a few pics i had on my camera, mainly behind the scenes stuff, dont worry im not the official photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70833481@N05/?saved=1

Now that's a convention, from the looks of it after viewing your photos.
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It was a great experience, thanks to the organisers and all the participants. It was also a nice experience to use Bitcoins in trade, I bought a beer with Bitcoins at the brmlab hackspace. I also sold all Casascius coins that I had with me (only kept the last one for myself), there was so much demand I ran out of them in a couple of minutes. Maybe I should have sold them at a higher price :-).

The payment didn't work out for me the first night at the cocktail party due to issues with wifi. Maybe next time there's a conference like this, someone can bring a portable 3g/wifi router, or maybe the devs can develop a mobile payment app that does not require the payer to have an internet connection (rather his mobile just creates the transaction and transmits it back to the payee, who then injects it into the network instead).

Overall it was very interesting and will help me in my research.
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Just adding my voice to all those saying that the conference was a great experience.

The talks were good, and meeting so many other bitcoin enthusiasts was also great. I hope I can keep in touch with most of them.

Prague is also a nice city, even when we add the frozen weather to the equation. Impressive how it has good infrastructure and at the same time prices are so low. A hotel of the same quality of that Panorama one would likely cost three times more here in France. And what can I say about those cheap beers and the deliciously cheap pork meat! Cheesy You made a good choice of venue, for sure!

My sincere congratulations to everyone behind the organization of this great event!
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They are to be announced.
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Here are a few pics i had on my camera, mainly behind the scenes stuff, dont worry im not the official photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70833481@N05/?saved=1

What a contrast with the NY conference pictures!!!
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Sorry but in the chaos, I forgot to make the announcement. It was that we found a bug in the AGPL due to a specific behaviour of bitcoin, and that the SFLC/FSF will be drafting a new version of the AGPL which will include a p2p clause. It's based on the fact that derivative works need to be proactive in providing the source code (you can't provide it on request). Also there was the talk of making a lesser AGPL too.

Something small + nice that's happening for bitcoin. But in the confusion I forgot to say it.
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We announced a pre-alpha of MultiBit Merchant. Open source software for merchants to set up a store and accept bitcoin payments. It has an HTML5 web socket back from the server to the client to push transaction / blockchain notifications.

The slides and a backup screencast are in this thread on the other eurobit thread here - and on the Alternative Clients MultiBit thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43616.msg632096#msg632096)

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There was also the announcement of that dedicated device development, by Clemens Cap.
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Max Keiser announced to add Bitcoin as a payment option for his project http://piratemyfilm.com. He also wants to push Bitcoin into broader adoption (1 million users) in 2012.

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Thank you for organizing the conference, it was amazing experience for me. I met a lot of people from this forum and also a people who helped me to build or improve the pool.

I also appreciated speakers who express some criticism and talked about problems. Sometimes it's absolutely necessary to leave our Bitcoin cave and look around for different opinion of people and find some new inspiration.

During those three days I made around 10 of real-world bitcoin payments. I found it very easy and convenient. Bitcoin payments are much faster than credit cards and even than cash. I went to the local market after the conference and found that I forgot to withdraw cash, because I paid almost everything with bitcoins in last days. I hope they'll accept Bitcoins soon so I don't need to find ATM :-).

I'm also pretty happy for that experience with wifi in Hard Rock Cafe. Obviously not all wifi routers are capable to download blockchain for 50 people at the same time ;-). It was definitely mistake of Cafe staff, because we asked them for fixing wifi a day ago, but we can think about some alternative solutions for situations like this (support sending transactions over sms or over QR code, for example?).

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Thanks for the conference! It was a great experience and i hope to see a continuation next year!

What i especially liked:
  • Very good selection of speakers!
  • Nice hotel, good venue.
  • Prague very good reachable from many locations - especially from Vienna Smiley
  • Many opportunities to talk to other conference participants. At the hotel, at the Registration and afterwards!
  • The panel discussion lead by Max Keiser was great.

Some tips how you can further improve the professional experience:
  • Allow Questions to be posted to google moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator) during the talk, that the speaker can answer them afterwards. provide a display for him to see them.
  • More Time for the Talks. We started quite late in the morning (11:00) and had few pauses. There would have been enough material for an extra half day.
  • upload the talks to parleys afterwards. this is the best and most professional place to host presentations i know of. it may cost a bit to host there. but it is the only space i know of that provides slides + video in good sync.
  • Aamir Takir had a good talk, i liked it. He has some strengths, but moderation is not one of them. Sometimes it is better to let the speakers talk or take questions from the audience instead of stating opinions for extended amount of time. I would have liked a more neutral moderator with more practice.
  • Provide more alternative drinks (Club Mate!) and maybe even professional catering. i had problems paying full attention at the end of the day without caffeine and i don't drink coffee. plus there was not really time to buy it at the mall.
  • The wifi at hard rock cafe must be mentioned. If you had a mobile hotspot from a phone that would have solved some problems.

Of course some of those things cost money, but i would be happy to pay my share. if it cost 100€ instead of 75€ - this would still be a fair price.

Something that is not easy to fix: I was quite shocked that almost ONLY male, middle-aged white were attending. It makes me sad how society is excluding women from pursuing tech careers and interests.
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genjix, worldly, others,

What is your take (and the legal implications for that matter) on me publishing my recordings (or parts of them) on youtube or otherwise? Can I do this? If so, what license should I choose (youtube or cc)?

EDIT: I know you're going to use my and your material and the good audio to produce good videos of the talks, which will take some time.

Maybe it makes sense to publish at least some outtakes of the raw material to satisfy the understandable desire of the community get an impression of what the conference was about and what it felt like. For me it had quite a revolutionary feel to it... everyone was so excited.

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Something that is not easy to fix: I was quite shocked that almost ONLY male, middle-aged white were attending. It makes me sad how society is excluding women from pursuing tech careers and interests.

I'm tempted to answer this, but it would lead the thread off topic. This merits a seperate thread. If you make one, I'll happily let you know my opinions on this issue. ^^

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genjix, worldly, others,

What is your take (and the legal implications for that matter) on me publishing my recordings (or parts of them) on youtube or otherwise? Can I do this? If so, what license should I choose (youtube or cc)?

EDIT: I know you're going to use my and your material and the good audio to produce good videos of the talks, which will take some time.

Maybe it makes sense to publish at least some outtakes of the raw material to satisfy the understandable desire of the community get an impression of what the conference was about and what it felt like. For me it had quite a revolutionary feel to it... everyone was so excited.


Hi molecular

Feel free to post some teasers/outtakes etc, would appreciate if you left any full talks to us.
I should be able to put some material up tomorrow too.

Thanks again for the extra video, im sure it will make a lot of difference.

I would choose the license that allows anyone to reuse the content.

Thanks for the conference! It was a great experience and i hope to see a continuation next year!

What i especially liked:
  • Very good selection of speakers!
  • Nice hotel, good venue.
  • Prague very good reachable from many locations - especially from Vienna Smiley
  • Many opportunities to talk to other conference participants. At the hotel, at the Registration and afterwards!
  • The panel discussion lead by Max Keiser was great.

Some tips how you can further improve the professional experience:
  • Allow Questions to be posted to google moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator) during the talk, that the speaker can answer them afterwards. provide a display for him to see them.
  • More Time for the Talks. We started quite late in the morning (11:00) and had few pauses. There would have been enough material for an extra half day.
  • upload the talks to parleys afterwards. this is the best and most professional place to host presentations i know of. it may cost a bit to host there. but it is the only space i know of that provides slides + video in good sync.
  • Aamir Takir had a good talk, i liked it. He has some strengths, but moderation is not one of them. Sometimes it is better to let the speakers talk or take questions from the audience instead of stating opinions for extended amount of time. I would have liked a more neutral moderator with more practice.
  • Provide more alternative drinks (Club Mate!) and maybe even professional catering. i had problems paying full attention at the end of the day without caffeine and i don't drink coffee. plus there was not really time to buy it at the mall.
  • The wifi at hard rock cafe must be mentioned. If you had a mobile hotspot from a phone that would have solved some problems.

Of course some of those things cost money, but i would be happy to pay my share. if it cost 100€ instead of 75€ - this would still be a fair price.

Something that is not easy to fix: I was quite shocked that almost ONLY male, middle-aged white were attending. It makes me sad how society is excluding women from pursuing tech careers and interests.


Thanks for the feedback, hopefully we can get a whole lot more by the time the next one comes around.  I wont reply to each point individually, ill take the suggestions on board.

Thanks for turning up.

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The conference was super interesting! I enjoyed it a lot!

Here is my honest and direct summary. I hope for honest and direct answers Wink

Paying in BitCoin at Hardrock? Not really. Those 5 that I saw trying failed. Still I love BitPay as a service! Being in a location where I don't have internet for my smart phone is not the default use case. I'm only afraid we could not convince the Hardrock Cafe staff Wink


Sergey Kurtsev's talk about decentralizing exchange was ... not quite what I had in mind when reading the announcement. I thought it would be some way to like use some peer to peer ripple pay system to calculate exchange rates and trade partners ... but in the end that's what it sounded to me: "I did a trade platform and now I want to borrow liquidity from other exchanges. Hey, it's a win win for all of us!"

Stefan Thomas ... his emphasis on splitting secrets across two independent hosts with different security measures was inspiring. When I tried to talk to him about the basic idea he left a narrow minded impression to me as my interpretation of his response was something like "you can do it your way. my software does it this way." Kind of a downer but maybe it was a misunderstanding.

Amir Taaki's speak was ... ok but he did a soso job as a moderator until the last question round on Saturday where he really spoiled it. We got sooo far off topic and he enjoyed talking sooo much it really was a pain. At least for me. I only wanted to know where the party will be so I can head off and eat something. When he was finally done with it, he announced that there is no central party. He did not even mention the hacker space party.

In Jim Burton's talk I most liked Multibit Merchant. I like multibit in that it allows to conveniently handle multiple wallets but in my opinion he's too dogmatic withmuch focusing on these swatches. Wonder if multibit merchant also has some weird dogma inside. Else I will look into it if I ever plan to add some payment functionality to a product.

David Birch was a must have! Although he does not believe in Bitcoin like 90% of his audience I have no doubt that 90% enjoyed his refreshing style and insights.

Simon Dixon did speak well. Inspiring but somehow there were no buzz concepts I found worthy to note down. Edit: He was the guy who said that Open Source and free services cause unemployment? I don't remember the exact quote but as my mind set is rather along ideas like the venus project than this slavery-like full employment goal with people working for virtually nothing.

Jason Chia did not convince me at all. Ok, he's young so maybe speaking is not what he did much before but also content-wise it was wird. He's a lawyer. We all laughed at his disclaimer of not giving legal advise. He listed some of the most obvious points valid in Europe to conclude all is fine with bitcoin - until some court rules otherwise. Kind of knew that before didn't you? His proposed attack against the bitcoin of buying all the coins was so well known that people yawned and didn't even bother to protest. Long way to go I would say.

Detlev Schlichter's talk was definitely inspiring to me as he put the fiat money crisis into a broader historical, political and geographical context. Change happened before!

Peter Kleissner's talk was too much on the surface and had no real news to me but that might be different for others although I guess the security literacy in the audience was very high in general. I was fine with the Windows focus of his talk as that's the audience we are targetting so I did not like the "why not talk about Linux" bashing from ... not sure ... was it Amir again?

Cameron Garnham presented open transaction. A real life demo would have helped. Unfortunately the project is in a state where he could not even present a special case demo something. Ok, cool, a framework to sign that I assign one gram of gold to you. How do I get the gold into the system? How about doublespending? I did not get the concept, sorry.

Clemens Cap: I'm happy to see yet another university professor working with bitcoin both theoretically and on an actual device that holds private keys to be integrated in the payment process.

Rick Falkvinge was good as always. Lets see if his forecast holds true that crypto currency success will take till 2019. I somehow doubt it will take that long Wink His focus on the gate keepers was a good one. Keep that in mind! Fuck the gate keepers! (Disclaimer: I'm a pirate)

Max Keiser is a good speaker. Somehow he had little to contribute to the subject of bitcoin though. He's an important player in the bitcoin eco system trying to push bitcoin to 1 million users by end of next year but to me it was not insightful.



Overall thanx for the conference! It really felt special to be part of it Smiley

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giszmo: Great summary! :-)

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There hasn't been much hype for Bitcoin lately. Are there any interesting developments to be announced at this conference?
Yes.
What were the announcements?

Max Keiser announced his crowdfunding film productions project (http://piratemyfilm.com) will be accepting payment of shares in bitcoin and also pay dividends in bitcoin. He bashed paypal rightfully. Max is now officially a bitcoin supporter, he loves it for its "disruptive qualities".

Also: Stacey Herbert now actually has a bitcoin wallet Wink

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I wonder, is Max also gonna report about this event during one of his keiser reports or on his website?

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Here's a clip of the venue, Friday Night Cocktail party.  For a restaurant like this to accept bitcoin, even just for a few hours was great.  Next time we will get them to provide decent internet too Smiley.  This is after the party had finished, there were a few bitcoin people mingling around.

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Sounds great! Let Max Keiser be the new Bruce!  Tongue

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People keep asking me about conference videos:

/topic in #bitconconsultancy

"Conference videos: we've decided on high quality after conference videos vs low quality difficult-to-setup webcasts. Videos should be out during next few weeks."

For future reference see http://livestream.com/ or http://ustream.tv/ to realize how not difficult at all it is.
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People keep asking me about conference videos:

/topic in #bitconconsultancy

"Conference videos: we've decided on high quality after conference videos vs low quality difficult-to-setup webcasts. Videos should be out during next few weeks."

For future reference see http://livestream.com/ or http://ustream.tv/ to realize how not difficult at all it is.

  I see, but what does this cost; http://www.ustream.tv/production-services/conference-package

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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i find it funny, when - i think it was Simon Dixon - stated (cited from my memory):

"I do not think it is a good idea to give away all kinds of software for free, as this kills employment" - nobody even bothered to argue against it. heard lots of people chuckle..
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Just to add my voice to the growing list of appreciation for this conference

Thanks most of all to Mitch for organising everything. The organisation was very good, and the whole show was very professionally run. It must've taken alot of effort to bring everything together for that final day and I'm sure everyone attending appreciated it. It is good that Europe is holding its own against the rest of the world in supporting Bitcoin. Congrats to Amir as well for hosting.

It was the content and the speakers that really made this talk so good. I'd like to pass on thanks to all of the speakers for their talks, all of which were very well delivered and insightful. I and I'm sure everyone else present enjoyed everything that was said, and the effort that was put into creating every presentation.

Highlights for me were the less technical talks, as I'm not too heavily involved in the development side at the moment: David Birch, Rick Falkvinge, Detlev Schlichter.

One thing which I thought very special about the conference was the mix of older and younger speakers - older and wiser talks from the likes of David Birch, Max Keiser, Rick Falkvinge, Clemens Cap along with those actually creating the new technologies like Cameron Garnham, Amir Taaki, Stefan Thomas, Peter Kleissner, etc.

I really hope that we can continue to hold the interest of all these very knowledgeable and clever people.

I think important to listen to the more experienced speakers. Whilst its exciting to hear about the new technologies and ideas from the likes of Amir and Stefan, it is fundamental to listen to those who understand how the 'real world' works.

Also interesting to hear from Detlev Schlichter, Max Keiser and Rick Falkvinge, particularly good to have them along given what's going on in the economy. I thought they added a very interesting additional dimension to the conference that would have otherwise been missing. Congrats again to Mitch/Amir for working hard to get these people along.

All in all, I thought it was a very thoughtful and insightful event. My only thoughts are that the venue itself was a little far out from the rest of Prague and in particular the Hacker Space where a lot of people went afterwards. It was excellently positioned vis a vis the hotel however. Prague was a great location for it aswell.

Well done guys for organising everything. Once again , an amazing conference with some great talks. Hopefully the next one can be bigger and better

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Just to add my voice to the growing list of appreciation for this conference

Thanks most of all to Mitch for organising everything. The organisation was very good, and the whole show was very professionally run. It must've taken alot of effort to bring everything together for that final day and I'm sure everyone attending appreciated it. It is good that Europe is holding its own against the rest of the world in supporting Bitcoin. Congrats to Amir as well for hosting.

It was the content and the speakers that really made this talk so good. I'd like to pass on thanks to all of the speakers for their talks, all of which were very well delivered and insightful. I and I'm sure everyone else present enjoyed everything that was said, and the effort that was put into creating every presentation.

Highlights for me were the less technical talks, as I'm not too heavily involved in the development side at the moment: David Birch, Rick Falkvinge, Detlev Schlichter.

One thing which I thought very special about the conference was the mix of older and younger speakers - older and wiser talks from the likes of David Birch, Max Keiser, Rick Falkvinge, Clemens Cap along with those actually creating the new technologies like Cameron Garnham, Amir Taaki, Stefan Thomas, Peter Kleissner, etc.

I really hope that we can continue to hold the interest of all these very knowledgeable and clever people.

I think important to listen to the more experienced speakers. Whilst its exciting to hear about the new technologies and ideas from the likes of Amir and Stefan, it is fundamental to listen to those who understand how the 'real world' works.

Also interesting to hear from Detlev Schlichter, Max Keiser and Rick Falkvinge, particularly good to have them along given what's going on in the economy. I thought they added a very interesting additional dimension to the conference that would have otherwise been missing. Congrats again to Mitch/Amir for working hard to get these people along.

All in all, I thought it was a very thoughtful and insightful event. My only thoughts are that the venue itself was a little far out from the rest of Prague and in particular the Hacker Space where a lot of people went afterwards. It was excellently positioned vis a vis the hotel however. Prague was a great location for it aswell.

Well done guys for organising everything. Once again , an amazing conference with some great talks. Hopefully the next one can be bigger and better

Xavier

+1. I think this conference might be viewed as a cornerstone for bitcoin in retrospect. It all came together: science, entrepreneurialism, people, politics and money.

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when you mess with the bulls, you get the herpes.

I don't think they are worried.  You can't get herpes twice.


Can you??

I guess if you already have the same type of herpes, you just get a different kind instead.

Ask a doctor, not trolls.

I wanted a second opinion.

Now I see there is a whole new scary double herpes world out there.  Just when you thought you were safe...
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16 second takeout: Rick Falkvinge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw85GURiS58

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David Birch was a must have! Although he does not believe in Bitcoin like 90% of his audience I have no doubt that 90% enjoyed his refreshing style and insights.
Simon Dixon did speak well. Inspiring but somehow there were no buzz concepts I found worthy to note down.

By my mind both of them were 'must not have'. David B. didn't say a word about bitcoin and he acknowledged of being bitcoin 'sceptic' (not to say 'against' bitcoin). Simon D.'s presentation was all about making traditional banks stronger. And, 'accidentally' both guys supported each other during panel.
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David B. didn't say a word about bitcoin and he acknowledged of being bitcoin 'sceptic'.

I enjoyed his skepticism because he's watching on bitcoin from the view of "normal people". We have to leave our bitcoin cave if we want to make it successful - this was his message to us as I understood it.

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David B. didn't say a word about bitcoin and he acknowledged of being bitcoin 'sceptic'.

I enjoyed his skepticism because he's watching on bitcoin from the view of "normal people". We have to leave our bitcoin cave if we want to make it successful - this was his message to us as I understood it.

I like this guy already.

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My take, don't remember every talk that well since I was coding at the same time.

Sergey Kurtsev: Not really about decentralized exchange, but potential concept nonetheless.

Amir Taaki: His first speech on friday was interesting (and a little funny), but overall he wasn't a good choice for as a moderator. Too much ideological/political stuff to my tastes, too little concrete stuff.

Jim Burton: I would have liked more about technical stuff about multibit client, such as watch advantages does it offer over the traditional client (speed?). The swatches do not inspire me. The bitcoin merchant wasn't either too interesting, for example I don't support using openid/etc login methods on web shop, I think they lower the conversion rate and with bitcoin much more efficient checkout process is possible.

David Birch: I didn't get this guys "criticism" (as I understood it was meant as such). For example, he was talking long about how computers are only for nerds and mobile is going to be the stuff in the future. How is this relevant? Bitcoin is not technology tied to specific platform, and there are lots of bitcoin-related mobile software already. Interesting stories, but not related much to bitcoin.

Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.

Jason Chia: This guy was definitely in the wrong place. Goverments buying all the bitcoins?

Peter Kleissner: Interesting stuff, but not that in-depth.

Cameron Garnham: Open transactions project has a marketing problem. I don't get what it is useful for, and I didn't understand that after the presentation. I unfedstood that with their technology you can currently issue centralized "tokens". The vision is de-centralized, however I don't understand how that could be achieved. And generally I don't really understand what the open-transactions project is practically useful for. More practical examples, please!

Clemens Cap: Some ideas how to promote the bitcoin project etc, not that interesting/new to me.

Rick Falkvinge: Somewhat inspiring talk, however nothing new to me since I'm a fan and read his blog pretty regularly (the only political blog I read).

Max Keiser: boring.

Overall I was a little disappointed, too much speech about economics/politics/etc and too little about technology/businesses.  Of course it is about personal tastes, though.

Thanks for the conference, it was great meeting some bitcoin people.

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By my mind both of them were 'must not have'. David B. didn't say a word about bitcoin and he acknowledged of being bitcoin 'sceptic' (not to say 'against' bitcoin).

How are you going to have a fruitfull discussion if everyone is of the same opinion. We didn't meet to pad ourselves on the back and look at our shiny casascius coins (well, not only, that is).

One of the organizers told me they tried to get 6 speakers "against" bitcoin. Most of the people they contacted refused for lack of balls, which I can understand.

I think it's great Birch came and he offered interesting facts and opinions and he's correct about one thing: We must be on the phone in order to succeed in gaining wider adoption.

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I would have gone with my girlfriend but it was a bit too expensive to fly out from Korea.

I guess I'll head to out to the Texas one. At least then Atlas and I can have a real pissing contest. I hear he has a piss fetish anyway.

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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.
I must have been stuck in a strange wormhole timewarp thingy where what I heard from Simon's talk was different from everyone else. To me it seems he put banks in the same category as killing people and the planet, and criticized their fractional reserve and lending policies.

Jason Chia: This guy was definitely in the wrong place. Goverments buying all the bitcoins?
The "governments buying bitcoins" part isn't that far-fetched. It was the "and then deleting them" that was silly.

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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.
I must have been stuck in a strange wormhole timewarp thingy where what I heard from Simon's talk was different from everyone else. To me it seems he put banks in the same category as killing people and the planet, and criticized their fractional reserve and lending policies.

Jason Chia: This guy was definitely in the wrong place. Goverments buying all the bitcoins?
The "governments buying bitcoins" part isn't that far-fetched. It was the "and then deleting them" that was silly.

That's the ultimate troll though. I'm tempted to myself....

While Bitcoin allows for such a ridiculous concept, it deserves to be tested.

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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.

This guy needs to learn some economics. His take on "free things cause unemployment" was so wrong... He could start reading some Bastiat; http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html

Cameron Garnham: Open transactions project has a marketing problem. I don't get what it is useful for, and I didn't understand that after the presentation. I unfedstood that with their technology you can currently issue centralized "tokens". The vision is de-centralized, however I don't understand how that could be achieved. And generally I don't really understand what the open-transactions project is practically useful for. More practical examples, please!

If I understood it correctly, it is a common protocol for issuing centralized tokens for anything. The idea is that people can exchange different tokens, from different issuers, digitally, using the same protocol.
I also don't know much about Open Transaction, I would need to learn more. I wonder if with alternative chains and merged mining we couldn't actually completely decentralize the double-spend verification part of the Open Transaction protocol, making it less centralized. It is inherently centralized anyway, since we're talking about token issuers.
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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.
This guy needs to learn some economics. His take on "free things cause unemployment" was so wrong... He could start reading some Bastiat; http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html
Yeah, he's a luddite. Though in his defense I do sympathize with a related sentiment - while it's great when people offer free stuff, it's bad when people demand to be given stuff for free. This dries up the incentives to create high-quality products and services, and the people end up with free stuff worth exactly what they paid for them.

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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.
This guy needs to learn some economics. His take on "free things cause unemployment" was so wrong... He could start reading some Bastiat; http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html
Yeah, he's a luddite. Though in his defense I do sympathize with a related sentiment - while it's great when people offer free stuff, it's bad when people demand to be given stuff for free. This dries up the incentives to create high-quality products and services, and the people end up with free stuff worth exactly what they paid for them.

I never understood as a kid, why everybody wanted to work so badly. It seemed so much more attractive to just play all day.

Maybe we should, as a global society, rethink some stuff from the ground up, and talk to children in the process, they might have some good ideas Wink

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while it's great when people offer free stuff, it's bad when people demand to be given stuff for free.

I fully agree there.
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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.

This guy needs to learn some economics. His take on "free things cause unemployment" was so wrong...

Oh! That was his quote? Guess then I will have to edit my summary a bit as that part I totally disagreed with, too.

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Simon Dixon: mostly boring pro-banking stuff.
This guy needs to learn some economics. His take on "free things cause unemployment" was so wrong... He could start reading some Bastiat; http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html
Yeah, he's a luddite. Though in his defense I do sympathize with a related sentiment - while it's great when people offer free stuff, it's bad when people demand to be given stuff for free. This dries up the incentives to create high-quality products and services, and the people end up with free stuff worth exactly what they paid for them.

I never understood as a kid, why everybody wanted to work so badly. It seemed so much more attractive to just play all day.

Maybe we should, as a global society, rethink some stuff from the ground up, and talk to children in the process, they might have some good ideas Wink


Or just invite me on literally every project in the community. Everyone who works with me pretty much says it's like working with a 12 year old. Wait...

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I never understood as a kid, why everybody wanted to work so badly. It seemed so much more attractive to just play all day.
Maybe we should, as a global society, rethink some stuff from the ground up, and talk to children in the process, they might have some good ideas Wink
+1 !

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I'm allowed to up more teasers.

http://youtu.be/IavQ-Wc8S1U - Clemens Cap about electronic bitcoin wallet at EuroBit

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I'm allowed to up more teasers.

http://youtu.be/IavQ-Wc8S1U - Clemens Cap about electronic bitcoin wallet at EuroBit

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A max keiser teaser would be awesome.

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Cameron Garnham: Open transactions project has a marketing problem. I don't get what it is useful for, and I didn't understand that after the presentation. I unfedstood that with their technology you can currently issue centralized "tokens". The vision is de-centralized, however I don't understand how that could be achieved. And generally I don't really understand what the open-transactions project is practically useful for. More practical examples, please!

If I understood it correctly, it is a common protocol for issuing centralized tokens for anything. The idea is that people can exchange different tokens, from different issuers, digitally, using the same protocol.
I also don't know much about Open Transaction, I would need to learn more. I wonder if with alternative chains and merged mining we couldn't actually completely decentralize the double-spend verification part of the Open Transaction protocol, making it less centralized. It is inherently centralized anyway, since we're talking about token issuers.

Open-Transactions vs. the "typical centralized system"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20425.msg255411#msg255411

I recommend the agorist radio interview.

I think Open Transactions will do a lot for Bitcoin. 

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Cameron Garnham is da2ce7

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One week later and close to nothing released ?

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One week later and close to nothing released ?



unfortunately ive been a bit snowed under, hopefully today i should be able to get 1 done.

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Stacy, Max and Richard talk in Paris, partly about Bitcoin and the Conference.

Stacy seems genuinly impressed by having actually used bitcoin (thanks to Tony of bit-pay for making that happen!)

Here's a quote from http://ia700801.us.archive.org/5/items/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-03December2011/TaM-031211.mp3 (start listen at 31:30 for bitcoin):

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Now, that's the thing that I really learned at the Bitcoin Conference. Now, I guess I got a little bit confused by a lot of the trolls and propaganda out there who don't understand, because, a lot of shreekers, who actually haven't used bitcoin. Now I assumed, like they, at a certain point, you know, people are like: 'it's a ponzy scheme!'. But what it is: it's a unit of transaction. If you've actually ever used it, you can see the simplicity of using it just to friggin' purchase something, not to speculate and hope to flip it to somebody at a greater price. You just convert your currency that day to whatever... there's some place that'll convert it to gold for you, you can convert it to euros, swiss franks, dollars, whatever you want.

(I sense the marketing direction will be less about bitcoin as money (enemy: USD) and more about bitcoin as a payment system (enemy: paypal))

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Stacy, Max and Richard talk in Paris, partly about Bitcoin and the Conference.

Stacy seems genuinly impressed by having actually used bitcoin (thanks to Tony of bit-pay for making that happen!)

Here's a quote from http://ia700801.us.archive.org/5/items/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-03December2011/TaM-031211.mp3 (start listen at 31:30 for bitcoin):

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Now, that's the thing that I really learned at the Bitcoin Conference. Now, I guess I got a little bit confused by a lot of the trolls and propaganda out there who don't understand, because, a lot of shreekers, who actually haven't used bitcoin. Now I assumed, like they, at a certain point, you know, people are like: 'it's a ponzy scheme!'. But what it is: it's a unit of transaction. If you've actually ever used it, you can see the simplicity of using it just to friggin' purchase something, not to speculate and hope to flip it to somebody at a greater price. You just convert your currency that day to whatever... there's some place that'll convert it to gold for you, you can convert it to euros, swiss franks, dollars, whatever you want.

(I sense the marketing direction will be less about bitcoin as money (enemy: USD) and more about bitcoin as a payment system (enemy: paypal))

exactly.  forget trying to explain what it is or how it works.  just show someone how to use it!  ask what kind of phone they have, and then set them up with a wallet.  send them one bitcoin, and show them how to send it back to you.  

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very true.  Bitcoin is not a threat to the dollar.  Bitcoin is a threat to the Banks and their stupid fees!

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(I sense the marketing direction will be less about bitcoin as money (enemy: USD) and more about bitcoin as a payment system (enemy: paypal))
very true.  Bitcoin is not a threat to the dollar.  Bitcoin is a threat to the Banks and their stupid fees!
Yes…and it's the foolishness of politicians and bureaucrats that are a threat to the dollar.

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(I sense the marketing direction will be less about bitcoin as money (enemy: USD) and more about bitcoin as a payment system (enemy: paypal))
very true.  Bitcoin is not a threat to the dollar.  Bitcoin is a threat to the Banks and their stupid fees!
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As I've said before, Bitcoin can only be a threat to banks if it is a threat to the dollar. If not, then whatever service is used to store a dollar balance and convert it to bitcoins and back for every transaction, is in fact the new bank and will suffer from all the problems of existing banks.

I don't disagree with the principle though, widespread adoption of Bitcoin will probably start with using it as a payment mechanism while only holding a small amount of it at any given time.

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(I sense the marketing direction will be less about bitcoin as money (enemy: USD) and more about bitcoin as a payment system (enemy: paypal))

very true.  Bitcoin is not a threat to the dollar.  Bitcoin is a threat to the Banks and their stupid fees!


I agree with your second statement.

So let's go with that for a year or two, it's powerfull enough.

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good news, everyone!

Max Keisers film project 291 on piratemyfilm.com "European Bitcoin - Prague" is now >100% funded.

The funds needed for this project have been reduced from $1.500 to $300, probably due to bit-pay.com paying the flights.

Awesome!

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edit: Never mind.

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A max keiser teaser would be awesome.

Max Keiser introduces himself and talks shortly about why he likes bitcoin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFSbj-MidPw ("I like challenging authority")

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December 05, 2011, 01:55:30 AM
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Tony is a big asset to what we are all trying to achieve.
A real entrepreneur in bitcoin creating practical applications for businesses to adopt bitcoin.

He helped fund the conference, he helped fund Max and his (small) entourage and now we have a real profile involved in pushing bitcoin to the masses.

It's hard to coordinate everyone to focus on a goal from what ive seen but i think tonys idea of going for a million bitcoin users is something the whole community should get behind.

Thanks to moleccular for posting some tasters of the conference, ive set aside time tomorrow to get some production done.


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December 06, 2011, 11:50:09 PM
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Here's something funny:

My mtgox account had withdrawals disabled due to "suspicious activity".

The "suspicious activity" was using the wifi at the conference center Wink. Many people logged in from that IP and that's seen as hacker-like behaviour.

Quote from: #mtgox
<MagicalTux> I'll check logs for other people using the same ip and unblock them

So if you've been to the conference, logged in to mtgox from there and you encounter problems. This might be it. There might be more IPs flagged suspicious: starbucks, hotel, brmlab hackerspace,...

Just thought I'd let you know so you don't panik when you can't withdraw.

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Several emails I sent from the conference center wifi to Gmail addresses were also blocked because of the originating IP address. 

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worldly (Mitch) finished editing the first talk.




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Almost 2 weeks further and just one keynote speaker on Youtube.
Bringing media to the rest of the community as fast as possible is one of the most important things about this conference.
I hope we will not have to wait a year more untill all footage has been released.
Cause at this rate it will take that long.
No offense but I hope you will understand my and surely also other people there frustration.

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Almost 2 weeks further and just one keynote speaker on Youtube.
Bringing media to the rest of the community as fast as possible is one of the most important things about this conference.
I hope we will not have to wait a year more untill all footage has been released.
Cause at this rate it will take that long.
No offense but I hope you will understand my and surely also other people there frustration.
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Calm down. We spent months organising the conference and made negative money from it. If the videos are slow then it's because we are editing them in our free time.
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http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z93ZXZT

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Calm down. We spent months organising the conference and made negative money from it. If the videos are slow then it's because we are editing them in our free time.

Mitch does a good job, but the editing takes time. He'll get more experienced and faster over time.

There are reasons against it, but we could think about, for the next conference, to crowdsource editing. We could require the crowd to have the output videos meet certain criteria (branding, sponsor demands,...)

On the upside: we'd probably have all the talks edited by now Wink

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Calm down. We spent months organising the conference and made negative money from it. If the videos are slow then it's because we are editing them in our free time.

Mitch does a good job, but the editing takes time. He'll get more experienced and faster over time.

There are reasons against it, but we could think about, for the next conference, to crowdsource editing. We could require the crowd to have the output videos meet certain criteria (branding, sponsor demands,...)

On the upside: we'd probably have all the talks edited by now Wink

Editing DOES take time. I'm horrified I won't get back to Korea in time to finish editing our Christmas Special. -_-;;;

Happy Holidays guys.

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Rick Falkvinge video from Hard Rock Cafe,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D63xgnnOr2I

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Rick Falkvinge video from Hard Rock Cafe,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D63xgnnOr2I
cool

Less accent than i imagine.

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Rick Falkvinge video from Hard Rock Cafe,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D63xgnnOr2I

cool

nice!

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NICE!
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largely offtopic, but Max Keiser talks to Detlev Schlichter in The Keiser Report 222 "World Currency War 1": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8FIXhDJ8o0&feature=player_embedded

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heads up, can the guy who was on my flight from Prague to Amsterdam send me a private message?  Sorry I forgot your name, but you live in the Netherlands.

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worldly (Mitch) finished editing the second talk.


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worldly (Mitch) finished editing the second talk.


Thanks for posting the videos. They look and sound great.

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Thanks for posting the videos. They look and sound great.

+1, Excellent quality, Thanks
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Thanks for posting the videos. They look and sound great.

+1, Excellent quality, Thanks

All thanks go to worldly for some awesome editing!

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Stefan Thomas ... his emphasis on splitting secrets across two independent hosts with different security measures was inspiring. When I tried to talk to him about the basic idea he left a narrow minded impression to me as my interpretation of his response was something like "you can do it your way. my software does it this way." Kind of a downer but maybe it was a misunderstanding.

I feel like I should explain where I was coming from there. I'm definitely sorry I came off so dismissive. My point was that I don't presume to know what the right solution is. After the talk, I talked to ten or more different people and every single person had their own different idea on how it should be done. So at some point I just threw up my hands, saying "I don't know what the correct way is."

We will have to follow multiple avenues and let the market decide. What people end up using/recommending and what gets hacked the least, that's the best solution.

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Stefan Thomas ... his emphasis on splitting secrets across two independent hosts with different security measures was inspiring. When I tried to talk to him about the basic idea he left a narrow minded impression to me as my interpretation of his response was something like "you can do it your way. my software does it this way." Kind of a downer but maybe it was a misunderstanding.

I feel like I should explain where I was coming from there. I'm definitely sorry I came off so dismissive. My point was that I don't presume to know what the right solution is. After the talk, I talked to ten or more different people and every single person had their own different idea on how it should be done. So at some point I just threw up my hands, saying "I don't know what the correct way is."

We will have to follow multiple avenues and let the market decide. What people end up using/recommending and what gets hacked the least, that's the best solution.

Thanks for clearing this up. When I read giszmos comment back when he made it, I thought to myself: strange, Stefan came across as a really nice and reasonable guy to me.

Indeed we're looking at interesting times concerning solutions to how people can manage their money. Let's just hope we don't run into too big of an exchange rate bubble too soon. I doubt we'll run into another mybitcoin fiasco, at least not one of that magnitude. People are warned now and what Stefan and many others work on are much better solutions obviously.

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David Birch released


Thanks to worldly for more wonderfull editing!

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Nice!

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new talk released: Simon Dixon


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new talk released: Tony Gallippi - Bitcoin Adoption


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new talk released: Tony Gallippi - Bitcoin Adoption



Thanks Mitchell and Nic for doing this!  I will download all these videos and play them at CES this week. 

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new talk released: Tony Gallippi - Bitcoin Adoption



Thanks Mitchell and Nic for doing this!  I will download all these videos and play them at CES this week.  

Thank Mitchell, I didn't do anything.

All the best wishes for CES!

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new talks released, thanks Mitchell!


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new talks released, thanks Mitchell!


Thanks, Mitchell and molecular.
Rick Falkvinge - excellent talk.
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With much thanks to Mitch for the extra-ordinary effort he put into the conference, and it's post production (excellent videos), I would like to announce Bitcoin2012, in London.

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Max Keisers talk released:


thanks Mitch!

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Max Keisers talk released:


What about Detlev Schlichter's talk? Is it available somewhere?
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Max Keisers talk released:


What about Detlev Schlichter's talk? Is it available somewhere?

not yet as far as I know. Mitch edits the material whenever he can find some time. It's a lot of work... we'll have to wait some more, I guess.

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too bad I didn't know about this earlier, I would have liked to visit this conference...
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too bad I didn't know about this earlier, I would have liked to visit this conference...

the next one is in London, September 15th through 16th: bitcoin2012.com

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