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January 08, 2014, 02:48:11 PM
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Then help me find them!

Here are the biggest wallets to start with:

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

The Winkles own roughly 92.000 BTCs ("Their investment was worth $11 million in April at $120 per coin." Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101190181)

I saw a video in which they stated they still hadn't sold any coins, I'm pretty sure that video was from September 2013.

So which one(s) are they? Any additional hints?

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January 08, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
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none of our business really.  they could have splitted their coins randomly in random amount of wallets/addresses anyway
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January 08, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
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none of our business really.  they could have splitted their coins randomly in random amount of wallets/addresses anyway

Of course the could have. That's why I'm looking for additional hints.

Or maybe it was already made public somewhere somehow?

It's Bitcoin business.
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January 08, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
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While I couldn't care less about the concrete answer to this, I welcome these investigations to raise awareness to the issue. Not investigating publicly does not mean others don't already sell this data for money and having the tools and knowledge public is worth a lot.

People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …

Please find their stash and confirm or question their claim of not having cashed out. It is of interest.

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January 08, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
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I would like to find out because I would be really interested to know when they will be selling in the future and how much. If you have any ideas or info how to go about that, let me know!


People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.
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January 08, 2014, 04:47:05 PM
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Why do you want to know?

Do you ask random strangers how much money they make and how much they have in their bank accounts?
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January 08, 2014, 04:53:40 PM
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Why do you want to know? 

See post #3 of this thread.


Do you ask random strangers how much money they make and how much they have in their bank accounts?

I could, if I wanted to.

BTC is public. Let's take advantage of that.

No need to play the guy with the ultra-high morals when there isn't even anything wrong done.
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January 08, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
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Take advantage of what? Others peoples financial affairs?

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January 08, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
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If smart they used 1000 keys

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January 08, 2014, 11:56:28 PM
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Some people in this thread are funny.  Forbes puts out their list of Top 50 richest people in the world and it is very interesting and many people read it.   Of course the top bitcoin holders is an interesting subject as well.
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January 09, 2014, 12:01:17 AM
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Then help me find them!

Here are the biggest wallets to start with:

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

The Winkles own roughly 92.000 BTCs ("Their investment was worth $11 million in April at $120 per coin." Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101190181)

I saw a video where they stated, they still hadn't sold any coins, I'm pretty sure that video was from September 2013.

So which one(s) are they? Any additional hints?



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January 09, 2014, 12:34:15 AM
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There's no way they keep their Bitcoins in a single wallet.
Probably spread throughout hundreds, if not thousands.
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January 09, 2014, 12:51:01 AM
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I would like to find out because I would be really interested to know when they will be selling in the future and how much. If you have any ideas or info how to go about that, let me know!


People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.

I think he was that was just an attempt to plug his wallet software (it's in his sig).  That made no sense in context.

Also, my guess for wanting to find out which wallet belongs to the Winklevii would probably be to somehow track their future investments.  However, I would imagine  that they would probably split into smaller wallets and do some coin mixing.

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January 09, 2014, 01:45:09 AM
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I would like to find out because I would be really interested to know when they will be selling in the future and how much. If you have any ideas or info how to go about that, let me know!


People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.

Who you like someone investigating how many bitcoins you owned? Wink
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January 09, 2014, 01:48:45 AM
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If smart they used 1000 keys

I know, and they ARE very smart.

I thought maybe somebody would have additional information. But this is probably a lost cause. *sigh*
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January 09, 2014, 01:52:44 AM
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Some people in this thread are funny.  Forbes puts out their list of Top 50 richest people in the world and it is very interesting and many people read it.   Of course the top bitcoin holders is an interesting subject as well.

For me, it's not about celebrity gossip, I really don't care if Kim went out with Lindsey or what Britney's dog has eaten lately.

Those Winklevoss guys are very smart, and they got in early and held all the way through. I would really like to know when they sell so I can use it for my own decisionmaking.
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January 09, 2014, 01:56:50 AM
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I would like to find out because I would be really interested to know when they will be selling in the future and how much. If you have any ideas or info how to go about that, let me know!


People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.

Who you like someone investigating how many bitcoins you owned? Wink

Feel free to go for it! Smiley

Lol, I would have never expected answers like that to this thread!
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January 09, 2014, 02:58:20 AM
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I would like to find out because I would be really interested to know when they will be selling in the future and how much. If you have any ideas or info how to go about that, let me know!


People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.

Who you like someone investigating how many bitcoins you owned? Wink

Feel free to go for it! Smiley

Lol, I would have never expected answers like that to this thread!

Just pointing out they have a right to their privacy, same as you and me
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January 09, 2014, 03:25:34 AM
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I doubt they have them all sitting in one address. Nobody really does that...

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January 28, 2014, 05:21:43 PM
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People who are new to bitcoin don't care cause they "only invested $1000" but then they realize they are paying with their Mycelium wallet since 2 years and their transaction history always involves one address and they moved a fortune worth of coins due to price increase …


I don't get what you want to express here.

I used bitcoin spinner for a long time until somebody noticed that my account processed 15000usd and I never had anything near that number on my phone. It was just the accumulated ins and outs of my phone over 2 years. Bitcoinspinner is now replaced by mycelium which I did not contribute so far despite me advertizing it in my sig.

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January 28, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
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Why do you want to know?

Because it's public information.

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January 28, 2014, 05:29:34 PM
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Then help me find them!

Here are the biggest wallets to start with:

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

The Winkles own roughly 92.000 BTCs ("Their investment was worth $11 million in April at $120 per coin." Source: http://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/id/101190181)

I saw a video where they stated, they still hadn't sold any coins, I'm pretty sure that video was from September 2013.

So which one(s) are they? Any additional hints?



Q4 2013 in their reddit AMA they verified they still hadn't sold anything.

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January 28, 2014, 05:59:57 PM
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These wallets clearly seem to be from the same person. All have 10,000 BTC each. All were created on Dec 23, 2013. That's over 200,000 BTC worth about $160 million USD!

1f1miYFQWTzdLiCBxtHHnNiW7WAWPUccr
1GaUYQmgfJXYJBcwhQjsDXxh5bqu8aWwYa
145YHsQU7HMzkRnD5SBSuFAzQgCYnAnLkN
1P1iThxBH542Gmk1kZNXyji4E4iwpvSbrt
1KbrSKrT3GeEruTuuYYUSQ35JwKbrAWJYm
12dUggmXPYsPVHaHr1DoW5J6bb6gvh4yZq
1Le6MkiTvkorvC1JwYXzQUSfqA3ebzGW7N
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1CPaziTqeEixPoSFtJxu74uDGbpEAotZom
1EyArywoLEhFto6uKWMxA9QKXJWLTNghsz
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1JtpgqCf3SSeCeYWEDJjkfYFH7Ruhy4Vp1
14YK4mzJGo5NKkNnmVJeuEAQftLt795Gec
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1BAFWQhH9pNkz3mZDQ1tWrtKkSHVCkc3fV
1AM5xJLHAenvTdzRDh6rv5TUFJm84W4uvT
1NN2bPz6gLYx7cquCscw918npUVBdD9Lmu
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These wallets clearly seem to be from the same person. All have 10,000 BTC each. All were created on Dec 23, 2013. That's over 200,000 BTC worth about $160 million USD!

1f1miYFQWTzdLiCBxtHHnNiW7WAWPUccr
1GaUYQmgfJXYJBcwhQjsDXxh5bqu8aWwYa
145YHsQU7HMzkRnD5SBSuFAzQgCYnAnLkN
1P1iThxBH542Gmk1kZNXyji4E4iwpvSbrt
1KbrSKrT3GeEruTuuYYUSQ35JwKbrAWJYm
12dUggmXPYsPVHaHr1DoW5J6bb6gvh4yZq
1Le6MkiTvkorvC1JwYXzQUSfqA3ebzGW7N
12tLs9c9RsALt4ockxa1hB4iTCTSmxj2me
1CPaziTqeEixPoSFtJxu74uDGbpEAotZom
1EyArywoLEhFto6uKWMxA9QKXJWLTNghsz
1Du2jAQsBQnkkVZkN4oqC46tS78k7WMkVq
1JtpgqCf3SSeCeYWEDJjkfYFH7Ruhy4Vp1
14YK4mzJGo5NKkNnmVJeuEAQftLt795Gec
18k9tin39LKegFzHe8rxSgvJXDpuMriGJq
1ucXXZQSEf4zny2HRwAQKtVpkLPTUKRtt
1BAFWQhH9pNkz3mZDQ1tWrtKkSHVCkc3fV
1AM5xJLHAenvTdzRDh6rv5TUFJm84W4uvT
1NN2bPz6gLYx7cquCscw918npUVBdD9Lmu
16qBQ6cs4R76gwAF85XF8tdxscz8fGjoJr
18BgWxZRdoCc21tdDPTNuEqREAofBnwG7M

But anything linking them to the Winklevosses?
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January 28, 2014, 06:50:34 PM
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These wallets clearly seem to be from the same person. All have 10,000 BTC each. All were created on Dec 23, 2013. That's over 200,000 BTC worth about $160 million USD!

1f1miYFQWTzdLiCBxtHHnNiW7WAWPUccr
1GaUYQmgfJXYJBcwhQjsDXxh5bqu8aWwYa
145YHsQU7HMzkRnD5SBSuFAzQgCYnAnLkN
1P1iThxBH542Gmk1kZNXyji4E4iwpvSbrt
1KbrSKrT3GeEruTuuYYUSQ35JwKbrAWJYm
12dUggmXPYsPVHaHr1DoW5J6bb6gvh4yZq
1Le6MkiTvkorvC1JwYXzQUSfqA3ebzGW7N
12tLs9c9RsALt4ockxa1hB4iTCTSmxj2me
1CPaziTqeEixPoSFtJxu74uDGbpEAotZom
1EyArywoLEhFto6uKWMxA9QKXJWLTNghsz
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1JtpgqCf3SSeCeYWEDJjkfYFH7Ruhy4Vp1
14YK4mzJGo5NKkNnmVJeuEAQftLt795Gec
18k9tin39LKegFzHe8rxSgvJXDpuMriGJq
1ucXXZQSEf4zny2HRwAQKtVpkLPTUKRtt
1BAFWQhH9pNkz3mZDQ1tWrtKkSHVCkc3fV
1AM5xJLHAenvTdzRDh6rv5TUFJm84W4uvT
1NN2bPz6gLYx7cquCscw918npUVBdD9Lmu
16qBQ6cs4R76gwAF85XF8tdxscz8fGjoJr
18BgWxZRdoCc21tdDPTNuEqREAofBnwG7M


I haven't looked at the data to determine if your use of the word "clearly" is accurate here, but one thing that's definitely NOT accurate is your use of the word "person". Use "entity" instead.

People annoyingly forget that many of the big wallets are likely exchanges or other bitcoin-holding businesses, which in turn, likely represent thousands of individual holders.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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January 28, 2014, 06:53:50 PM
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Then help me find them!

Here are the biggest wallets to start with:

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

The Winkles own roughly 92.000 BTCs ("Their investment was worth $11 million in April at $120 per coin." Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101190181)

I saw a video where they stated, they still hadn't sold any coins, I'm pretty sure that video was from September 2013.

So which one(s) are they? Any additional hints?



Would be hard to track because Robert M. Faiella had them put all their bitcoins in Mt GOx for safe keeping.

"Robert, we're both new to this Bitcoin thingy, and..."

"Don't worry about a thing. I have two friends of which I work closely with on the board at The Bitcoin Foundation."

"Good enough for me!"

"Me, too, Skro!"

"Great! I brought along some NEFT to celebrate."

<after a few drinks>

"Well, you boys ready to sign? We're losing money!"

"Shouldn't we have our lawyer look..."

"Already ahead of you! Patrick wrote it."
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January 28, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
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So much for the first wallet on the list above belonging to them: https://blockchain.info/address/1f1miYFQWTzdLiCBxtHHnNiW7WAWPUccr

Created on: 2011-05-04 02:10:49

But...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/09/the-11-million-in-bitcoins-the-winklevoss-brothers-bought-is-now-worth-32-million/

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A lot of people laughed at Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss when they announced in April that they had acquired $11 million worth of bitcoins. The announcement came on April 11, the day after the virtual currency hit a record high of $266 and then plummeted to $120. Over the next few days, it would fall as low as $50, cutting the value of the brothers' bitcoin stake in half.

Since it was mentioned that all the wallets are somewhat connected, I believe more hunting is in store.

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January 28, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
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Then help me find them!

Here are the biggest wallets to start with:

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

The Winkles own roughly 92.000 BTCs ("Their investment was worth $11 million in April at $120 per coin." Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101190181)

I saw a video where they stated, they still hadn't sold any coins, I'm pretty sure that video was from September 2013.

So which one(s) are they? Any additional hints?



Would be hard to track because Robert M. Faiella had them put all their bitcoins in Mt GOx for safe keeping.

"Robert, we're both new to this Bitcoin thingy, and..."

"Don't worry about a thing. I have two friends of which I work closely with on the board at The Bitcoin Foundation."

"Good enough for me!"

"Me, too, Skro!"

"Great! I brought along some NEFT to celebrate."

<after a few drinks>

"Well, you boys ready to sign? We're losing money!"

"Shouldn't we have our lawyer look..."

"Already ahead of you! Patrick wrote it."


He he, nice story there!
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January 28, 2014, 09:30:54 PM
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

Any evidance for your guess Huh
It seems like an ordinary address to me...
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Does any body care ?
Ok I do a little, tell us.
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How can you find anyone's address by "guessing"Huh
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How can you find anyone's address by "guessing"Huh

By rolling the SHA256 dice.
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How do you know it's theirs though, it's not like a name is attached to it... or maybe there is.

I'm confused here.
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How do you know it's theirs though, it's not like a name is attached to it... or maybe there is.

I'm confused here.

I know BTC isn't anonymous like we used to get told but I'm pretty sure an address doesn't come with an ID attached. Maybe bitcoin 0.1 Smiley
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You would need to have Bitcoin exchange logs to know this info, so unless your gov agency, good luck
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January 29, 2014, 10:50:20 AM
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How can you find anyone's address by "guessing"Huh

The chance of it being a Winkleaddress is pretty good since the Winklei owe a significant percentage of all the bitcoins.
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January 29, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
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This is one of their addresses:15D2pY5KJkv5yBcZEakgARFmhwYQ76hhFM

I was able to find this by guessing.

-edit-  Looks like they keep moving those coins.

How can you find anyone's address by "guessing"Huh

The chance of it being a Winkleaddress is pretty good since the Winklei owe a significant percentage of all the bitcoins.

And that's your "evidence"? Good luck with that ...
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January 29, 2014, 10:57:12 AM
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When did the bros get into BTC? Were they early adopters or did they start later?

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When did the bros get into BTC? Were they early adopters or did they start later?

Not the time to be asking questions about how people got huge numbers of coins, kind of sensitive at the moment Wink
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When did the bros get into BTC? Were they early adopters or did they start later?

Not the time to be asking questions about how people got huge numbers of coins, kind of sensitive at the moment Wink
Not interested in their bank accounts, just asking when they did "find out" about cryptos Smiley

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When did the bros get into BTC? Were they early adopters or did they start later?

Not the time to be asking questions about how people got huge numbers of coins, kind of sensitive at the moment Wink
Not interested in their bank accounts, just asking when they did "find out" about cryptos Smiley

What you asked was "when did the bros get into BTC"? Suggests acquisition of coins to me, not "find out".
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would be a nice twist of history if BTC makes these 2 twins richer than Zuckerberg  Cool

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would be a nice twist of history if BTC makes these 2 twins richer than Zuckerberg  Cool

lol that would be great.

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would be a nice twist of history if BTC makes these 2 twins richer than Zuckerberg  Cool

Quite likely to happen, if not from meteoric rise of BTC then from slow decline of FB
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would be a nice twist of history if BTC makes these 2 twins richer than Zuckerberg  Cool

Quite likely to happen, if not from meteoric rise of BTC then from slow decline of FB

lol Cheesy
IMHO, FB will slowly die in a few years.
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would be a nice twist of history if BTC makes these 2 twins richer than Zuckerberg  Cool

Quite likely to happen, if not from meteoric rise of BTC then from slow decline of FB

lol Cheesy
IMHO, FB will slowly die in a few years.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/22/facebook-princeton-researchers-infectious-disease

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These wallets clearly seem to be from the same person. All have 10,000 BTC each. All were created on Dec 23, 2013. That's over 200,000 BTC worth about $160 million USD!

1f1miYFQWTzdLiCBxtHHnNiW7WAWPUccr
1GaUYQmgfJXYJBcwhQjsDXxh5bqu8aWwYa
145YHsQU7HMzkRnD5SBSuFAzQgCYnAnLkN
1P1iThxBH542Gmk1kZNXyji4E4iwpvSbrt
1KbrSKrT3GeEruTuuYYUSQ35JwKbrAWJYm
12dUggmXPYsPVHaHr1DoW5J6bb6gvh4yZq
1Le6MkiTvkorvC1JwYXzQUSfqA3ebzGW7N
12tLs9c9RsALt4ockxa1hB4iTCTSmxj2me
1CPaziTqeEixPoSFtJxu74uDGbpEAotZom
1EyArywoLEhFto6uKWMxA9QKXJWLTNghsz
1Du2jAQsBQnkkVZkN4oqC46tS78k7WMkVq
1JtpgqCf3SSeCeYWEDJjkfYFH7Ruhy4Vp1
14YK4mzJGo5NKkNnmVJeuEAQftLt795Gec
18k9tin39LKegFzHe8rxSgvJXDpuMriGJq
1ucXXZQSEf4zny2HRwAQKtVpkLPTUKRtt
1BAFWQhH9pNkz3mZDQ1tWrtKkSHVCkc3fV
1AM5xJLHAenvTdzRDh6rv5TUFJm84W4uvT
1NN2bPz6gLYx7cquCscw918npUVBdD9Lmu
16qBQ6cs4R76gwAF85XF8tdxscz8fGjoJr
18BgWxZRdoCc21tdDPTNuEqREAofBnwG7M

All the above stemmed from newly mined blocks of 50 bitcoins, created back in early 2011, by the same miner that were either all sold to one entity or the owner opted to change the place where he stores the coins that he still holds.
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