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September 01, 2011, 02:34:08 AM |
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Hi, Please restart your Ixcoin 0.3.24.2 client (or upgrade to it if you haven't done so yet). It should now activate the new Ixcoin-specific peering marker to setup for the upcoming difficulty algo. The new difficulty algo will start in 29 blocks - at block 2055. Thomas.
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 02:38:51 AM |
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When the new retargetting algorithm goes live at block 20055, will Ixcoin reset the difficulty back to 1 like I0coin did? Or is it just going to ratchet down organically?
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Mousepotato
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ctoon6
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September 01, 2011, 02:42:32 AM |
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When the new retargetting algorithm goes live at block 20055, will Ixcoin reset the difficulty back to 1 like I0coin did? Or is it just going to ratchet down organically?
it will probably so the same thing as the client he copied it from.
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 02:44:44 AM |
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When the new retargetting algorithm goes live at block 20055, will Ixcoin reset the difficulty back to 1 like I0coin did? Or is it just going to ratchet down organically?
it will probably so the same thing as the client he copied it from. Oh damn, well then I know what I'm mining in a few days!
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BadPenny
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September 01, 2011, 02:48:14 AM |
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Here's a better idea: shut down your Ixcoin client.
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Nasakioto (OP)
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September 01, 2011, 02:57:09 AM |
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It'll go down organically by /4 at first, then readjust every 24 hours / 144 blocks. So depending on the mining load, it should go down fast at first then slowly climb back up.
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 03:03:44 AM |
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I was hoping for a hard reset but oh well.
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September 01, 2011, 03:17:18 AM |
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How about no one update their client nor restart it.
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simonk83
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September 01, 2011, 04:00:47 AM |
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29 blocks. So that's what, some time next month?
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ElectricMucus
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September 01, 2011, 04:20:51 AM |
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how about no? Anybody has a old IXcoin client for download? To use his own words: "You stupid suckers download my damn new client "
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joulesbeef
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September 01, 2011, 04:56:15 AM |
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what is the average time on the blocks
has it really been 2 hours since this post was made without a block found?
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September 01, 2011, 05:07:07 AM |
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Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.
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simonk83
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September 01, 2011, 05:11:18 AM |
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what is the average time on the blocks
has it really been 2 hours since this post was made without a block found?
Put it this way. I transferred some old IX that'd I'd forgotten about from my client to bitparking some time yesterday morning. It still hasn't confirmed (it's supposed to take 6 blocks and I believe it's been 5 so far).
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 06:46:21 AM |
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Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.
I dunno, I kind of like Ixcoin. I was able to buy a shiny new 5970 from my first day of mining IxC
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September 01, 2011, 06:51:47 AM |
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Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.
I dunno, I kind of like Ixcoin. I was able to buy a shiny new 5970 from my first day of mining Pumping&Dumping IxC Fixed
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September 01, 2011, 09:49:39 AM |
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Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.
I dunno, I kind of like Ixcoin. I was able to buy a shiny new 5970 from my first day of mining Pumping&Dumping IxC Fixed +1 lol
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September 01, 2011, 02:13:35 PM |
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When the new retargetting algorithm goes live at block 20055, will Ixcoin reset the difficulty back to 1 like I0coin did? Or is it just going to ratchet down organically?
it will probably so the same thing as the client he copied it from. ctoon6 - You're assuming he can cut 'n paste without fscking it up. He's already proven he's not even capable of that. Quite why anyone would get involved in this farce is beyond me. Oh wait, they're not, and that's the current problem....
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joulesbeef
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September 01, 2011, 04:08:30 PM |
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wow simon.. well I still havent seen a single block. I sent the ixcoins i had left over yesterday and they are still sitting at 0 confirms.
can we verify that the new ixcoin client works? cause at the rate it is going here it will be a month or longer before the diff change.
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 04:37:25 PM |
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Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.
I dunno, I kind of like Ixcoin. I was able to buy a shiny new 5970 from my first day of mining Pumping&Dumping IxC Fixed Shh! You're going to give away my secret!
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 04:38:53 PM |
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wow simon.. well I still havent seen a single block. I sent the ixcoins i had left over yesterday and they are still sitting at 0 confirms.
can we verify that the new ixcoin client works? cause at the rate it is going here it will be a month or longer before the diff change.
This weekend it was at block 19996 or so. Last night before I went to bed it as at 20026. I'm at work now, so I can't see the current block number but I'm curious to see what it's at now.
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September 01, 2011, 04:47:56 PM |
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 05:17:53 PM |
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So my question is, come block 20055, will we see an immediate difficulty drop? Or will we have to wait 24hrs for the new algorithm to evaluate block velocity first?
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Mousepotato
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bcpokey
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September 01, 2011, 06:02:52 PM |
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So my question is, come block 20055, will we see an immediate difficulty drop? Or will we have to wait 24hrs for the new algorithm to evaluate block velocity first?
A new difficulty adjustment algorithm will activate on block 20055. The current block count is 19968 so we should hit this count in about ~2 weeks. After that, difficulty retargets every 144 blocks (i.e. every 24 hours) with max increments of 10% and max decrements at 400% (like Solidcoin). The aim is to achieve a much more consistent block rate. (commit) (commit2) You will have to wait until 144 blocks occur, so ~3weeks give or take.
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wolftaur
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September 01, 2011, 08:05:06 PM |
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i've downloaded it and started it on my computer just to annoy thomas :-P
Everyone who thinks ixcoin is a scam should do that, and mine on it.
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Mousepotato
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September 01, 2011, 09:37:47 PM |
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So my question is, come block 20055, will we see an immediate difficulty drop? Or will we have to wait 24hrs for the new algorithm to evaluate block velocity first?
A new difficulty adjustment algorithm will activate on block 20055. The current block count is 19968 so we should hit this count in about ~2 weeks. After that, difficulty retargets every 144 blocks (i.e. every 24 hours) with max increments of 10% and max decrements at 400% (like Solidcoin). The aim is to achieve a much more consistent block rate. (commit) (commit2) You will have to wait until 144 blocks occur, so ~3weeks give or take. I thought it's using the same difficulty algo as Solidcoin though, where if there weren't 144 block solves by the 24hr mark, difficulty would retarget automatically.
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September 01, 2011, 10:24:23 PM |
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i've downloaded it and started it on my computer just to annoy thomas :-P
Everyone who thinks ixcoin is a scam should do that, and mine on it. Done
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September 01, 2011, 10:26:23 PM |
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I'll donate my spillover hashes to the effort, I wish I could do more but I haven't enough to toy with
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September 01, 2011, 10:31:16 PM |
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i've downloaded it and started it on my computer just to annoy thomas :-P
Everyone who thinks ixcoin is a scam should do that, and mine on it. Done How much hash?
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Nasakioto (OP)
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September 01, 2011, 11:47:16 PM |
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So my question is, come block 20055, will we see an immediate difficulty drop? Or will we have to wait 24hrs for the new algorithm to evaluate block velocity first?
A new difficulty adjustment algorithm will activate on block 20055. The current block count is 19968 so we should hit this count in about ~2 weeks. After that, difficulty retargets every 144 blocks (i.e. every 24 hours) with max increments of 10% and max decrements at 400% (like Solidcoin). The aim is to achieve a much more consistent block rate. (commit) (commit2) You will have to wait until 144 blocks occur, so ~3weeks give or take. I thought it's using the same difficulty algo as Solidcoin though, where if there weren't 144 block solves by the 24hr mark, difficulty would retarget automatically. The new difficulty algo will reduce the speed at block 20130 by 4x. After that, it'll continue readjusting every 144 blocks. If it does take longer than 24 hours to mine the next 144 blocks, it'll decrease the difficulty (and vice versa). By the way, block 20027 on 0.3.24.2 is now propagating.
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September 02, 2011, 07:20:02 AM |
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i've downloaded it and started it on my computer just to annoy thomas :-P
Everyone who thinks ixcoin is a scam should do that, and mine on it. Done How much hash? What would be _PERFECT_ is if ixcoin's original block speed target was at least mostly met for a while. Then (especially uninformed) people would never upgrade. And many ixcoin.2 people would switch back. Then throw as much has as we absolutely can get (Hey, Artforz, want in?) for a couple weeks... get difficulty _WAY_ up, then all abandon simultaneously one block after a difficulty adjustment. The two block chains would be nearly impossible to reconcile because Thomas made them two different p2p networks and protocol versions. And ixcoin.2 would be mostly abandoned and ixcoin.1 would be retargeting in 2150.
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September 02, 2011, 08:00:30 AM |
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What would be _PERFECT_ is if ixcoin's original block speed target was at least mostly met for a while. Then (especially uninformed) people would never upgrade. And many ixcoin.2 people would switch back. Then throw as much has as we absolutely can get (Hey, Artforz, want in?) for a couple weeks... get difficulty _WAY_ up, then all abandon simultaneously one block after a difficulty adjustment. The two block chains would be nearly impossible to reconcile because Thomas made them two different p2p networks and protocol versions. And ixcoin.2 would be mostly abandoned and ixcoin.1 would be retargeting in 2150. The old .1 blockchain is useless, wasted resources if you hash on it. You can't stop the new chain to reach block 20055, then the new retargeting gets active. It all depends on the new chain, if exchanges and pools are switching... Mining on the orphan chain won't have any effect on the new one. The people who support the new chain will switch, and this new support will define the value of the new chain...
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September 03, 2011, 01:24:24 AM |
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What would be _PERFECT_ is if ixcoin's original block speed target was at least mostly met for a while. Then (especially uninformed) people would never upgrade. And many ixcoin.2 people would switch back. Then throw as much has as we absolutely can get (Hey, Artforz, want in?) for a couple weeks... get difficulty _WAY_ up, then all abandon simultaneously one block after a difficulty adjustment. The two block chains would be nearly impossible to reconcile because Thomas made them two different p2p networks and protocol versions. And ixcoin.2 would be mostly abandoned and ixcoin.1 would be retargeting in 2150. The old .1 blockchain is useless, wasted resources if you hash on it. You can't stop the new chain to reach block 20055, then the new retargeting gets active. It all depends on the new chain, if exchanges and pools are switching... Mining on the orphan chain won't have any effect on the new one. The people who support the new chain will switch, and this new support will define the value of the new chain... What defines the value of the chain is the people who mine on it and use it to transact in. Otherwise it is rubbish.
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