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January 10, 2014, 12:15:21 AM
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January 10, 2014, 12:24:22 AM
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views =/= value

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January 10, 2014, 12:26:16 AM
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So go buy at a discount until the discount's gone. Why tell us?
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January 10, 2014, 12:33:15 AM
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Sounds like a good value, but then, aren't all alt-coins going to have to crash if people keep making new ones every day?
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January 10, 2014, 01:20:39 AM
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NXT and QRK are very old, that's why so many views (and larger market cap), DOGE was first of its kind.

Considering the cat and its badly chosen parameters, hardfork troubles .... it is sort of miracle that is is still alive and while it may rise, it may as well drop to the bottom.

Views may only be a slight indicative of the hype factor - i.e. the difference between the real value and the percieved value. Once hype is gone, coin value drops, as the perceived value drops down closer to the real value. Like with DOGE.

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January 10, 2014, 01:28:37 AM
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While trying to flog the little CAT that I had on Cryptsy, its value dropped over 10%.

I don't see CAT as being a viable long-term currency. With its problems and whatnot, it seems destined for the world of "it was fun while it lasted" coins.

Ðogecoin on the other hand is kind of freakish. It actually has some pretty decent infrastructure behind it - something most alts don't have.

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January 10, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
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Considering that there is no reason whatsoever to use catcoin it's actually severely overvalued.
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January 10, 2014, 01:45:38 AM
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views =/= value
Tell that to Google, Alexa, Facebook, Yahoo, etc etc...


Except that the views related to the sites you mentioned directly correlate to the use of a particular service.  There have been over 4.6 million views of the "What is Bitcoin?" video on YouTube, but there aren't 4.6 million Bitcoin users.
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January 10, 2014, 01:51:18 AM
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Nobody cares about another shitcoin.
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January 10, 2014, 01:53:01 AM
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EAC, QRK and DOGE all have very high number of coins, which definitely helps to "pump" their market caps. Low price per single coin looks more attractive to potential buyer and provides false impression of having a good deal. It's easier to convince someone that 0.00000040 for DOGE is a cheaper than 0.00048000 for CAT, even if he knows the difference in coin supply.

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January 10, 2014, 01:57:38 AM
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Catcoin is an exact copy of Bitcoin with scrypt algo. All other coins provide something different.
1. Nxt -> 2. generation
2. Doge -> Meme + total random blocks
4. EAC -> good markting, fast transactions, different distribution model
5. Quark -> different distribution model and 6 differenent hashes

What offers CAT?

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January 10, 2014, 02:03:38 AM
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Considering that there is no reason whatsoever to use catcoin it's actually severely overvalued.

Is this the case for every single cryptocurrency except BTC, LTC and Maybe PTS ?

Cat is only 2 weeks old, BTC is 6years maybe? ltc 2-3 years old? real value comes with time but for now, you can mine them for a profit, you can also use cat to have fun in the virtual casinos/dice and what's not that accept the coin
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January 10, 2014, 02:08:53 AM
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Catcoin is an exact copy of Bitcoin with scrypt algo. All other coins provide something different.
1. Nxt -> 2. generation
2. Doge -> Meme + total random blocks
4. EAC -> good markting, fast transactions, different distribution model
5. Quark -> different distribution model and 6 differenent hashes

What offers CAT?

All of them scrypt based with similar model of use they have nothing original (except Quark) I don't see how can you say such a thing, all of what you mentioned about Doge/EAC can be said about CAT.

What hit cat in the last few days and how it managed to survice and remain steady proves that this coin has a solide user base, but this user base need to grow to give the coin more opportunities.
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January 10, 2014, 02:55:12 AM
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I've stopped looking at market value and instead focus on market cap. 300k is about right for such a new coin (http://coinmarketcap.com/), to break into the top 10 coins they'll need to prove themselves but meme based coins don't exactly scream credibility or reliability.
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January 10, 2014, 04:37:08 AM
Last edit: January 10, 2014, 05:11:30 AM by kalus
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disclaimer:  i own a lot of catcoin.  

before you invest, know that catcoin is in play.

the value you see is not a true value: I believe the currency is being actively manipulated by the catcoin community.  i support this statement with the ongoing discussion in the catcoin thread itself.  

the catcoin community is also planning to change the fundamentals of the currency again by forking the currency for a third time.  
OP mentioned this in previous catcoin threads, but i didn't see discussion of this here. Failing to mention the ongoing plan to fork the coin may mislead investors, and I now feel ethically compelled to speak out.  

please, please be cautious before jumping in. I am saying this even though it will damage my investment in catcoin. I have much to gain if i just shut up, but i just don't want someone to invest before they know the whole story.

don't believe me:  you can read the last 40 pages of the catcoin thread to get an idea of what is going on, and decide for yourself whether this coin is under or overvalued.  

invest smart, and be safe in this forum.  lots of warning flags surround not just catcoin, but many altcoins in general.  

I have created multiple threads on other forums promoting CAT and received a ton of views but very little feedback.
And last but not least, I've been trying over and over to drive the price up by buying but no one backs me up so I have taken consistent losses.
I may have the cash but I'm not stupid. If I see a dead end I'll cut my losses. Luckily I have faith that we will recover Cheesy

The market is very thin, if we get 30 people with 1 BTC each we could double our price per coin easily
. And that isn't unreasonable, look at the volume on cryptsy.


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January 10, 2014, 04:56:36 AM
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P.S. What does the fork have to do with anything?

Then there should be no harm in telling people about it.  

at least when people knew about the fork before, they could make an informed decision.  I am merely informing them.

people are investing hard-earned money, and they should know the coin is due to be changed in fundamental ways for the second time.  (the last fork was unintentional).

every dollar of value that is in catcoin comes out of a real person's pocket.  And as i've stated, i have a vested interest in catcoin: that should be enough of a caveat.  I want to be real about my investments, so i am realistic about their flaws.  

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January 10, 2014, 05:00:00 AM
Last edit: January 10, 2014, 05:53:12 AM by kalus
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last fork we had may have inflated the currency: I was able to mine at extremely low difficulty and double my catcoins this week after the fork.  

  perhaps someone that wants to buy catcoin, might wait for the difficulty to drop and mine it instead.

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January 10, 2014, 05:00:50 AM
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the issue with not talking about the fork openly is because people should buy into an altcoin based on its features, and merits.  Changing how the coin behaves, however slightly, should be openly talked about in every thread about catcoin right now, especially when that thread is giving investment advice.  the more information everyone has, the better. 

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January 10, 2014, 05:04:21 AM
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Cool, you went from 50 cat to 100. Good job, now move along. There were literally only about 14 blocks post fork with crazy low difficulty. Thats 700 coins. Stop bullshitting.
as a catcoin miner, i've mined for days since the first two forks this week.  I'm not an opportunistic miner:  if you actually read the catcoin thread there was an active call for miners after the fork.  you're shitting on people that are making you catcoins.  

i also bought some catcoins.  you are now shitting on people that are buying what you're recommending.  

I never mentioned forks. Why? Because they don't matter in the long run.

ask yourself:  would you rather invest knowing there was an imminent fork in the currency and the specs were going to be changed, or not?

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January 10, 2014, 05:07:57 AM
Last edit: January 10, 2014, 06:07:47 AM by kalus
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I never mentioned forks. Why? Because they don't matter in the long run.

ask yourself:  would you rather invest knowing there was an imminent fork in the currency and the specs were going to be changed, or not?

Uh yes? In fact I WOULD invest knowing...
 exactly.  tell people about the fork.

Here are a few sayings that I have learned in my 5 years trading stocks.
welcome to cryptocurrencies.  they're not stocks.

Five years experience only gives you enough confidence to get yourself into trouble.  

Information asymmetry doesn't exist when both the manipulator and the marks read the same forums.

And last but not least, I've been trying over and over to drive the price up by buying but no one backs me up so I have taken consistent losses.
I may have the cash but I'm not stupid. If I see a dead end I'll cut my losses. Luckily I have faith that we will recover Cheesy

The market is very thin, if we get 30 people with 1 BTC each we could double our price per coin easily
. And that isn't unreasonable, look at the volume on cryptsy.

This is why you will never have money
oh fuc

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