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May 21, 2018, 04:00:01 PM
Last edit: August 15, 2018, 08:15:54 AM by vlad230
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In support of my [CryptoNight] CPU mining guide & coins that will get you a return thread I've decided to create a thread where I will list all of the CryptoNight coins that have forked, type of algorithm they're currently on and if they are ASIC resistant or not.

I hope other people will find this helpful too as I know a lot of people in my CPU mining thread are interested in this.

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Coin Name | ASIC resistant? | Current Algorithm
MONEROYesCN v7
ITALOYesCN v7
STELLITEYesCN v7
ELECTRONEROYesCN v7
FONEROYesCN v7
GRAFTYesCN v7
ELYAYesCN v7
INTENSEYesCN v7
MONEROVYesCN v7
BBSYesCN v7
QRLYesCN v7
TRITONYesCN-LITE
IRIDIUMYesCN-LITE
LOKIYesCN-Heavy
OMBREYesCN-Heavy
SOLACEYesCN-Heavy
HAVENYesCN-Heavy
SARONITEYesCN-Heavy
RYOYesCN-Heavy
BLOCYesCN-Heavy
NBRYesCN-Heavy
ALLOYYesALLOY-CN
TUBEYesCN-LITE-BITTUBE
MASARIYesCN-v7-FAST
AEONYesCN-v7-LITE
BLURYesCN-Adaptive
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May 21, 2018, 05:14:21 PM
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any news on electroneum forking too?
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May 21, 2018, 05:41:58 PM
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In support of my [CryptoNight] CPU mining guide & coins that will get you a return thread I've decided to create a thread where I will list all of the CryptoNight coins that have forked, type of algorithm they're currently on and if they are ASIC resistant or not.

I hope other people will find this helpful too as I know a lot of people in my CPU mining thread are interested in this.

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Coin Name | ASIC resistant? | Current Algorithm
MONEROYesCN v7
ITALOYesCN v7
TRITONYesCN-LITE
IRIDIUMYesCN-LITE
SUMOYesCN-Heavy
LOKIYesCN-Heavy
OMBREYesCN-Heavy
SOLACEYesCN-Heavy
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Very good list, you should also include all the equihash algorithm coins resistant to ASIC's. As for example the Bitcoin Gold
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May 21, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
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any news on electroneum forking too?

theres a community fork which is named electronero. with 1:1 ratio for electroneum to electronero.

Also what about other coins like stellite or bittube?
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May 21, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
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any news on electroneum forking too?

May 30th.
https://electroneum.com/2018/04/25/blockchain-update/

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May 22, 2018, 07:54:41 AM
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any news on electroneum forking too?
ETN should fork soon, hopefully - May 30th.
I don't understand why they didn't fork yet, as the majority of ASIC miners have moved to it since Monero forked. See what this lack of action has did to ETN's price...

Very good list, you should also include all the equihash algorithm coins resistant to ASIC's. As for example the Bitcoin Gold
This thread will be dedicated to CryptoNight  as it is meant to also support my other CN CPU mining guide.

any news on electroneum forking too?

theres a community fork which is named electronero. with 1:1 ratio for electroneum to electronero.

Also what about other coins like stellite or bittube?
Thanks for the suggestions, I've added STELLITE & ELECTRONERO to the main post Smiley
I didn't find any news on BitTube forking, do you have a source for that?

Thanks for the heads up, will include it here as soon as it is confirmed.
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May 22, 2018, 08:09:25 AM
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ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy
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May 22, 2018, 10:45:41 AM
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If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks
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May 22, 2018, 11:10:57 AM
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If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks

BCN and XDN didn't go Anti ASIC. Not sure about AEON, don't follow this coin.
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May 22, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
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ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy
Thanks for the suggestions! Smiley

I've added Heaven & Alloy on the main post of this thread. Alloy seems to have a custom algorithm called Alloy-Cryptonight. More details here: https://alloyproject.org/

If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks
As far as I know, BCN & XDN did not fork and aren't ASIC resistant.

AEON, on the other hand is ASIC reistant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0 I've added it. Smiley

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May 22, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
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ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy
Thanks for the suggestions! Smiley

I've added Heaven & Alloy on the main post of this thread. Alloy seems to have a custom algorithm called Alloy-Cryptonight. More details here: https://alloyproject.org/

If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks
As far as I know, BCN & XDN did not fork and aren't ASIC resistant.

AEON, on the other hand is ASIC reistant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0 I've added it. Smiley



Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)

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May 22, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
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Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)
I was basing my post on their announcement thread where they were saying that AEON is ASIC resistant.

In the comments from the git repository I see they are talking about adopting more changes from Monero but maybe it isn't related to the changes regarding ASIC resistance but something else.

Do you know anyone mining it with ASICs?
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May 23, 2018, 04:43:45 AM
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Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)
I was basing my post on their announcement thread where they were saying that AEON is ASIC resistant.

In the comments from the git repository I see they are talking about adopting more changes from Monero but maybe it isn't related to the changes regarding ASIC resistance but something else.

Do you know anyone mining it with ASICs?

That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play Wink
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart

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May 23, 2018, 07:59:46 AM
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That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play Wink
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart
Ok, I assumed the announcement thread was being updated constantly and that it was recently edited.

Yes, indeed there are some high spikes in difficulty and that could be related to ASICs. I have removed AEON from the list, will add it back when they fork and everything was successful.
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May 23, 2018, 08:17:54 AM
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That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play Wink
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart
Ok, I assumed the announcement thread was being updated constantly and that it was recently edited.

Yes, indeed there are some high spikes in difficulty and that could be related to ASICs. I have removed AEON from the list, will add it back when they fork and everything was successful.

AEON is asics friendly, it is written in one of the mining pool.
anyway, wait till electroneum fork 30th may and all asics will be on AEON.  Grin

if I have AEON, I sell it now.
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May 23, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
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AEON is asics friendly, it is written in one of the mining pool.
anyway, wait till electroneum fork 30th may and all asics will be on AEON.  Grin

if I have AEON, I sell it now.
Yeah, I agree it will ruing the coin even more than it is right now  Sad

I don't get why these guys don't implement ASIC resistance as soon as it is known that people are mining it with ASICs. I mean that should be top priority unless you want the coin to drop in value considerably and also be vulnerable to a possible attack on the blockchain.
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June 08, 2018, 07:56:58 AM
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I've added in a new coin that has forked to implement ASIC resistance. It is called: FONERO (FNO) and it is a fork of Monero (XMR).

They're announced this in their announcement thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109546.msg34310632#msg34310632

Do you have any other news on coins that may have forked?
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June 08, 2018, 09:10:31 AM
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GRAFT - ASIC resistant - CN-v7
SARONITE - ASIC resistant - CN-heavy
BITTUBE - ASIC resistant - CN-lite-bittube
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June 08, 2018, 09:16:25 AM
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SUMO forked back to ASIC-friendly and a fork coin name RYO remain CN-heavy
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June 08, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
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You have a neat list that is probably worth some merits (would give some if i had any left). Might i just make some little recommendations that could potentially make it even better?

  • It would be useful if there was a link to the coin's website / ANN thread / or any sort of reference
  • I know price is volatile and what you post today may be invalid tomorrow, but at first glance the price of a coin could be a good way to filter which coins to research first
  • If no price, maybe a link to an exchange where it's available


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