Obligatory I'm not dead or running post

[saif92]

• I am an expert in IT and I have a good understanding of financial deals.

do you have a dead man switch? thanks.

lol why is this must for becoming a escrow service provider 

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[greyhawk]

Aaaand this is why you don't do "one-man" escrows.

Anyone can be hit by a bus at any time, regardless of how trustworthy they are or seem.

I would say more at this point, but I need to start my tour, people are waiting for their bus.

[johnmatrix]

Damn so what the hell is happening here... another month to wait or what

[greyhawk]

nobody noticed my secret message? 

I did, but it conflicts with my bus theory.

[danyy]

Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle.

[saif92]

Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle.

I think he is going back on drone and by mistake drone throw him in Afghanistan instead of his homeland 

[cardcomm]

Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle.

I think he is going back on drone and by mistake drone throw him in Afghanistan instead of his homeland 

WTF? There was a time when I thought certain people could be trusted on this forum based on their past history and good feedback.

Let this be a lesson to me - NEVER trust ANYONE online. Bummer.

[Kouye]

Active and very trustworthy global moderator of this forum.

If John K ever commits an immoral act, I'll become an uncompromising cynic. Level-headed, humble, and genuinely interested in helping others, John is by far the best escrow agent to ever exist within the Bitcoin community, and otherwise an incredible asset.

JohnK is a fellow Malaysian and highly recommended for escrows.

Trusted escrow service. Make sure to verify that the escrow addresses and contract are actually signed by John! Don't just go "oh, it looks like gpg, hopefully it's legit"

See why public positive ratings are bad and why we should stick only to negative ones?

To conclude, here's the most dangerous one in my opinion (positive feedback from 2014, months after John has gone MIA):

Held BTC for the forum.

Please, people, quit posting "positive trust", this is a scammer's godly tool.
Time to remove all those ratings, too.

[theymos]

To conclude, here's the most dangerous one in my opinion (positive feedback from 2014, months after John has gone MIA):

Held BTC for the forum.

Please, people, quit posting "positive trust", this is a scammer's godly tool.
Time to remove all those ratings, too.

He held 1000 BTC for a long time and then returned it at around the time of that rating (after annoyingly being MIA, but still). This is worthy of positive feedback in my book, and it's strong evidence that John will probably not intentionally scam anyone.

I agree that it's unprofessional for him to leave everyone hanging, but sometimes life happens and these things become unavoidable. (I don't know his exact circumstances.)

[Kouye]

This is worthy of positive feedback in my book

I 100% agree, and am sure you slept a sound night after he finallly sent back those coins.
I understand why you would put a positive entry in YOUR book.
What I disagree with is the fact that this feedback made it OUT of your book.

The next user subscribing here will see that you endorsed John K. (again) publicly, and thus will be tempted to trust him, when his trustworthyness is highly questionable, now.

Just don't allow public +Trust. All big-time scammers had an extensive list of +Trust.
-Trust is the way to go.

EDIT: btw, theymos, you still have a +Trust rating posted for TradeFortress "in your book"... 

[Kouye]

I'll try one last time to make my point.

I register for the fist time on this forum.

"Bitcoin, cool! I want some, too!"
"Oh, a marketplace sub!"
*clicks*
"This guy has a high rating, all green, I'll buy from him, and send first, since I'm new"
"Oh, a scam accusation sub. I should post here now, I guess...  "
"I've been fucked by the whole community".

vs

"Bitcoin, cool! I want some, too!"
"Oh, a marketplace sub!"
*clicks*
"Ewwww, everyone has red ratings, that's horrible. I'm going to have to make my own opinion before anything else."
"Ok, this guy seems legit, I'll +trust him in MY book".
"Cool, now he's greenish, nice tool to remember that he's got my trust."
"If he fucks me, then I won't be able to blame anyone else than him and me".

As much as I know it takes a little stupidity to send first to some random "trusted" user on a random forum, this still creates confusion and suspicion, and could simply be avoided by keeping the +Trust private.

[danyy]

You have to spam his email inbox to get him back here again

[Unluckyduck]

It's just unprofessional to leave people in the lurch like this. Especially when he's getting $2k in fees for just holding the raffle coins.

[cardcomm]

This is worthy of positive feedback in my book

I 100% agree, and am sure you slept a sound night after he finallly sent back those coins.
I understand why you would put a positive entry in YOUR book.
What I disagree with is the fact that this feedback made it OUT of your book.

The next user subscribing here will see that you endorsed John K. (again) publicly, and thus will be tempted to trust him, when his trustworthyness is highly questionable, now.

Just don't allow public +Trust. All big-time scammers had an extensive list of +Trust.
-Trust is the way to go.

EDIT: btw, theymos, you still have a +Trust rating posted for TradeFortress "in your book"... 

i think you are using the trust system wrong. It has nothing to do with trust.

Perhaps you could explain how to use the trust system then. How does the trust system have nothing to do with trust?

Clearly I need a lesson in the proper way to interpret a user's "trust" rating because right now it seems more harmful than useful.

[johnmatrix]

Winners


50 BTC

66. imamanandyou


5 BTC

169. vendetahome
136. hope4me
36. datguyian
5. Amph
90. clearcrystal


1 BTC

108. jerelimZ
122. stromma44
19. pvtbrutus
72. CoinDiver
57. adworker
1. uvwvj
27. yurimir
157. pokerFace2
150. johnmatrix
161. kolesozw
28. AquaMan
30. teste
91. nerFohanzo
103. hellfrozenow
131. AFox
59. over1977v
80. terman45x
84. poewerden
69. Unluckyduck
128. xephireusMMX
7. miner2020
100. zeraTunerse
54. testconpastas2
173. zeta1
29. bigtimespaghetti



There have been the following address changes:
Unluckyduck: 13i2b4TvxtYh85vSPLZnaXVJzgRGJYofWh
Amph: 1MaUT3H6rHpZKDSuBxfVuXqgsYrTpNn1zm
imamanandyou: 1BQxQ5a3STdDuAh1v1ro591cfdavLaRc5X
clearcrystal: 1EvG9e15UVWkziBAHPLHrygnwYYCo4yrYj
bigtimespaghetti: 1KwieREHm8nz2s5Pmbt9Qf7SG8EMGWfwDv

imamanandyou, Amph and clearcrystal should confirm that these are indeed their intended addresses. I have sent a PM to vendetahope, hope4me and datguyian.

thankyou,

[saif92]

now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money

[HellDiverUK]

their money. 

[saif92]

now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money

I'm tired of waiting for my coin. Bitcoin lost half it's value since early January. IMO, coinroll should pay out the prize to the winners and wait for John K themselves. It's good PR.

he is one of legit persons here but his last 2 months are very disappointed so all are not good for him he must reply some one or mod must do about this

[saif92]

now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money

I'm tired of waiting for my coin. Bitcoin lost half it's value since early January. IMO, coinroll should pay out the prize to the winners and wait for John K themselves. It's good PR.

he is one of legit persons here but his last 2 months are very disappointed so all are not good for him he must reply some one or mod must do about this

I have this bad feeling he is receiving chemotherapy and it's really serious. Otherwise, this total silence and no communication doesn't make any sense.

yes agree because now he is very old and after long visit to China And Malaysia may be some stress happen to him so he is unable to join here again

[hilariousandco]

He's still holding all that raffle money? Can't Theymos contact him and ask him to send the money out? I think he returned the forums money he was holding pretty swiftly.