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July 09, 2018, 12:14:39 AM
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Not sure why Cormier called out Brock, surely he understands the massive disadvantage he'll have? Brock is massive as fuck.

He got a good win over Miocic, but it wasn't entirely unexpected, yes, he's getting older, but UFC isn't as much of a young man's game as some other contact sports, e.g. Boxing. Brock Lesnar will probably wreck Cormier simply due to the 50lbs weigh advantage. Cormier is a beast true, but punching against the weight is never a good idea.

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July 09, 2018, 02:05:51 AM
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Not sure why Cormier called out Brock, surely he understands the massive disadvantage he'll have? Brock is massive as fuck.

He got a good win over Miocic, but it wasn't entirely unexpected, yes, he's getting older, but UFC isn't as much of a young man's game as some other contact sports, e.g. Boxing. Brock Lesnar will probably wreck Cormier simply due to the 50lbs weigh advantage. Cormier is a beast true, but punching against the weight is never a good idea.

Maybe Daniel Cormier want's a big payday that's why he is calling out Brock Lesnar. I was expecting Derrick Lewis to be Daniel Cormier's next opponent because there we're rumors during the conference Derrick Lewis says "You’re smaller than everybody up here" and Daniel Cormier vs Derrick Lewis much interesting and reasonable than Daniel Cormier vs Brock Lesnar. Where is Brock Lesnar ranked? Sure he is a crowd drawer but this guy only have a few tricks in his bag.
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July 09, 2018, 02:34:19 AM
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I reckon you 2 do not have experience in Dana's UFC storyboards yet? hehehe

Cormier's call out was scripted. A money fight versus Brock Lesnar is Daniel's reward after winning the heavyweight championship, and to Dana's relief because he can now make a new storyboard after Daniel versus Brock.

Daniel Cormier versus Jon Jones in heavyweight should be the possible next in line for the UFC.

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July 09, 2018, 04:01:57 AM
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Fighting a massive pay per view draw like Conor McGregor translates to higher UFC paycheck. As a result, UFC fighters prefer big fights with big names like Brock Lesnar knowing they'll be paid more for their efforts. I think the UFC has also recently negotiated a new tv deal with ESPN that pays out much more than the old deal with Fox Sports. That should also result in a pay raise for fighters in the UFC.

The UFC 226 card was ok. There were a lot of big names. I have a feeling we've seen more talented fighters on some of the smaller tv cards. Wish Daniel Cormier had fought cleaner and not poked Stipe around the eyes so much with his fingers. Ngannou seemed like he froze up during his fight. Maybe he had flashbacks to his fight with Stipe which kept him from performing the way he might want to.

I don't care about Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Cormier. Two big names but they both could be past their prime and no matter what Cormier does, he'll always be compared to Jon Jones and people will always remember that he lost twice. I don't know if anything DC does will ever overshadow that or make people forget.
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July 09, 2018, 04:50:50 AM
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I reckon you 2 do not have experience in Dana's UFC storyboards yet? hehehe

Cormier's call out was scripted. A money fight versus Brock Lesnar is Daniel's reward after winning the heavyweight championship, and to Dana's relief because he can now make a new storyboard after Daniel versus Brock.

Daniel Cormier versus Jon Jones in heavyweight should be the possible next in line for the UFC.

I agree. With joe rogan's laughing face in the back, that post fight was better than most wwe promos and vince mcmahon would be very proud of brock lol. Stipe i think deserves a rematch period. Brock's been getting everything the easy way wherever he goes because he attracts more money but i don't think it's good for the sport.

 
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July 09, 2018, 10:45:38 AM
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Ooook...  Well that was unexpected.  Lmao.  I really didn't think Cormier would be a beast at HW.  Now I'm thinking his weight cutting is what's taking him to a disadvantage at LW...?  (Aside from Jon Jones' use of steriods, of course...  If vs Jones.  Otherwise, he's still also a beast at LW)

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July 09, 2018, 12:46:54 PM
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Awesome card, except Francis Ngannou which ruined the fight because the guy was incapable of throwing a single shoot. What the hell was he thinking?

Not surprised at DC's win. Guy is an elite fighter, tremendous knockout power with these uppercuts, he got in range and KO'd the giant. Fantastic win, now I can't wait to see him fight Brock, that will be a fun fight, he will look even smaller next to the massive Brock Lesnar.

Yep, that right was on the target.  I think he is better fighting at Heavyweight division.  But I don't know why he calls Brock Lesnar, that guy is totally irrelevant in UFC now. Or perhaps there's a lot of money involved, and Brock is is one scary dude. Lol.

Obviously there is the most money involved in an huge Brock Lesnar fight, plus DC is the better fighter so he has the advantage skills wise by a mile. The only problem he will have to face is to defeat an huge guy, but he has proven it can be done by KO'ing none other tan Stipe. Stipe is a superior fighter to Brock as well. Of course Lesnar is probably the bigges guy in the HW division, let's see how DC deals with that. I think it will just take a single punch and Lesnar goes down. He hates being punched in the face, he just can't take a punch.

If I was DC I would fight him too, then retire with an huge win, huge payday to leave as a 2 belt world champion. But he said he will at least do 2 more fights, so thats Brock and a rematch with Stipe or Bones.
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July 09, 2018, 12:49:41 PM
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Ooook...  Well that was unexpected.  Lmao.  I really didn't think Cormier would be a beast at HW.  Now I'm thinking his weight cutting is what's taking him to a disadvantage at LW...?  (Aside from Jon Jones' use of steriods, of course...  If vs Jones.  Otherwise, he's still also a beast at LW)

He outweigh Stipe if i'm not mistaken, and I think that its a big factor contributing to the KO, because once Stipe was hit, BOOM bye bye.

I agree with @Hydrogen, the stigma that he was beaten by Jones twice during their prime will be a big question mark on his career. Unless he won against Jones in either LHW or HW and removed that doubt from the fans.

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July 09, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
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Ooook...  Well that was unexpected.  Lmao.  I really didn't think Cormier would be a beast at HW.  Now I'm thinking his weight cutting is what's taking him to a disadvantage at LW...?  (Aside from Jon Jones' use of steriods, of course...  If vs Jones.  Otherwise, he's still also a beast at LW)

He outweigh Stipe if i'm not mistaken, and I think that its a big factor contributing to the KO, because once Stipe was hit, BOOM bye bye.

I agree with @Hydrogen, the stigma that he was beaten by Jones twice during their prime will be a big question mark on his career. Unless he won against Jones in either LHW or HW and removed that doubt from the fans.

Indeed, DC was outweighting Stipe by a bit. 242.5 vs 246 for DC. Not that much of a difference in my opinion, also it was mostly fat, not muscle. DC is just a very strong guy, very explosive in the uppercuts, he shocked Jones too on the last fight, but in HW he is definitely under his natural weight.

Also DC's HW belt is totally separated from the LW belt so ther are no question marks there. In any case the ball is on Jones' court since he was the one that as caught cheating after all.
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WOW!  Talk about upset city- all 5 of the main card fights the underdog won -

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@BillyBobZorton. I reckon Dana White's new storyboard will be Stipe versus Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier versus Brock Lesnar double header hehehe.

I also reckon that Dana wants to kill Stipe's career after Stipe disrespected him after Stipe's fight versus Francis Ngannou. Dana will feed him to Jon Jones, who has the skill to win versus the former heavyweight champion.

Daniel can win versus Brock Lesnar very easily, I reckon. This fight is only a money fight reward for the winner of UFC 226 heavyweight championship.

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July 10, 2018, 09:31:52 AM
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I reckon you 2 do not have experience in Dana's UFC storyboards yet? hehehe

Cormier's call out was scripted. A money fight versus Brock Lesnar is Daniel's reward after winning the heavyweight championship, and to Dana's relief because he can now make a new storyboard after Daniel versus Brock.

Daniel Cormier versus Jon Jones in heavyweight should be the possible next in line for the UFC.
Dana White confirmed that a week before the fight Brock Lesnar called him (Dana) and apologized for keeping him in the dark, I guess that means ignoring him while Lesnar is busy with his part time job in WWE. Anyway, if the fight between Brock Lesnar and Daniel Cormier pushes through, it's one massive payday again for Daniel Cormier, allegedly he was paid by UFC 500k USD while its 750K for Miocic. Looking at Miocic during the post fight conference, his face received a lot of beating.
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July 11, 2018, 11:08:53 AM
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I can't wait for the rematch between these two...  I hope Miocic gets it asap.  The Lesnar thing seems like nothing but a distraction. 

Anyway, Miocic could've learned a thing or two by watching past matches of Cormier's other opponents, esp. the ones vs Jon Jones.  'Nullifying that right arm during a collar tie is key, to the vid below to see.'  Wink

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July 13, 2018, 03:28:20 AM
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Just a reminder there are two bellator events friday and saturday.

Bellator 202

Julia Budd (c)   vs.   Talita Nogueira            
Eduardo Dantas   vs.   Michael McDonald            
Chris Honeycutt   vs.   Leo Leite            
Valentin Moldavsky   vs.   Ernest James            

Jon Hill   vs.   Rudy Schaffroth            
Fernando Gonzalez Trevino   vs.   Tyler Ingram            
Emily Ducote   vs.   Veta Arteaga            
Gerald Harris   vs.   Yaroslav Amosov            
Will Morris   vs.   Charles Williams            
Nation Gibrick   vs.   Luis Erives            
Aaron Webb   vs.   Daniel Carey            
Steve Kozola   vs.   Ryan Walker

Bellator 203

Patricio Freire (c)   vs.   Daniel Weichel            
Alessio Sakara   vs.   Jamie Sloane            
Andrey Koreshkov   vs.   Vaso Bakocevic            
Simone La Preziosa   vs.   Maxim Radu            
Michele Martignoni   vs.   Simone D'Anna            
Will Fleury   vs.   Alen Amedovski            

(Kickboxing)   Giorgio Petrosyan   vs.   Chingiz Allazov            
(Kickboxing)   Kevin Ross (c)   vs.   Gabriel Varga   

Another UFC event on saturday also.

UFC Fight Night, JDS vs Blagoy Ivanov

Junior dos Santos   vs.   Blagoy Ivanov            
Sage Northcutt   vs.   Zak Ottow            
Dennis Bermudez   vs.   Rick Glenn            
Randy Brown   vs.   Niko Price            
Myles Jury   vs.   Chad Mendes            
Cat Zingano   vs.   Marion Reneau            

Eddie Wineland   vs.   Alejandro Pérez            
Darren Elkins   vs.   Alexander Volkanovski            
Justin Scoggins   vs.   Said Nurmagomedov            
Kurt Holobaugh   vs.   Raoni Barcelos            

Liz Carmouche   vs.   Jennifer Maia            
Mark De La Rosa   vs.   Elias Garcia            
Jessica Aguilar   vs.   Jodie Esquibel

....

If I remember right, Daniel Cormier says he's retiring after the Brock Lesnar fight?

There might never be a DC versus Jon Jones III. I can't say I'm a fan of how cocky Daniel Cormier is over winning his fight. Stipe's eyes had scratches all around them, it looked like he got scratched by a cat. That could have been critical and is not the type of clean win someone should be proud of imo.

I hope more UFC light heavyweights try fighting @ heavyweight. Anthony Johnson fought Andrei Arlovski and won @ heavyweight years ago. Heavyweight could be a shallow division.

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July 21, 2018, 03:59:04 AM
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If I remember right, Daniel Cormier says he's retiring after the Brock Lesnar fight?
There might never be a DC versus Jon Jones III. I can't say I'm a fan of how cocky Daniel Cormier is over winning his fight. Stipe's eyes had scratches all around them, it looked like he got scratched by a cat. That could have been critical and is not the type of clean win someone should be proud of imo.
Daniel Cormier could retire after the Brock Lesnar fight because that is not going to happen this year, he has two more fights left and he will either defend his light heavyweight title before his fight against Brock Lesnar, what i would like to see is Jon Jones being cleared to fight and a show down between Daniel Cormier and Jon Jones for the heavy weight belt as i am more interested to see how Daniel could do different in the higher weight division rather than seeing another dominant win by Jon Jones . Cheesy
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July 21, 2018, 05:14:15 AM
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If I remember right, Daniel Cormier says he's retiring after the Brock Lesnar fight?
There might never be a DC versus Jon Jones III. I can't say I'm a fan of how cocky Daniel Cormier is over winning his fight. Stipe's eyes had scratches all around them, it looked like he got scratched by a cat. That could have been critical and is not the type of clean win someone should be proud of imo.
Daniel Cormier could retire after the Brock Lesnar fight because that is not going to happen this year, he has two more fights left and he will either defend his light heavyweight title before his fight against Brock Lesnar, what i would like to see is Jon Jones being cleared to fight and a show down between Daniel Cormier and Jon Jones for the heavy weight belt as i am more interested to see how Daniel could do different in the higher weight division rather than seeing another dominant win by Jon Jones . Cheesy

I agree that a DC vs Jon Jones as Heavyweight could put fans on the arena to watch the way. It could be Jon Jones comeback fight and its for the belt that DC won. This two has a lot of drama between them that fans wanted to see them settle inside the Octagon. DC shows that he is comfortable as HW so its really interesting how the fight will end.

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July 21, 2018, 01:58:28 PM
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Reminder, UFC Fight Night Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs Anthony "Lionheart" Smith is live around 8-10 hours earlier than normal this sunday morning for US residents.

Maurício Rua   vs.   Anthony Smith            
Glover Teixeira   vs.   Corey Anderson            
Vitor Miranda   vs.   Abu Azaitar            
Marcin Tybura   vs.   Stefan Struve            
Danny Roberts   vs.   David Zawada            
Nasrat Haqparast   vs.   Marc Diakiese            

Nick Hein   vs.   Damir Hadžović            
Emil Weber Meek   vs.   Bartosz Fabiński            
Khalid Taha   vs.   Nad Narimani            
Justin Ledet   vs.   Aleksandar Rakić            

Davey Grant   vs.   Manny Bermudez            
Jeremy Kimball   vs.   Darko Stošić            
Damian Stasiak   vs.   Liu Pingyuan

Dana White's "Contender" series has also been airing on tuesdays.

Not much news in MMA. Looks like Valentina Shevchenko and Nicco Montano will fight for the 125 lb title. Tyron Woodley and Colby Covington are supposed to fight for the 170 title later this year. Khabib Nurmagomedov isn't fighting until after ramadan. Max Holloway is being checked out by doctors to figure out what his health condition is. The UFC didn't pay Brian Ortega anything as he didn't fight Jeremy Stephens on short notice. Brendan Schaub and Dana White got into a twitter beef. Conor McGregor met Vladimir Putin in russia. Etc.
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