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September 05, 2011, 02:34:27 AM
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As far as TLD's go, it's not a matter of actually being more secure or functional or whatever. Functionally they are all equal.

It is a matter of PERCEPTION

Seriously, if you see a .tk,.kn, .ru, .in or .lv I bet you are a little more leary about it on first glance more than a .com.

Why do you think Mtgox is mtgox.com and NOT mtgox.jp ?

Like it or not, this is a fact and denial doesn't change it.

Back on topic

SolidCoin's decision to close the license will kill and probably already has killed SC. Without Bitparking and Ruxum there are no exchanges worth trading on.

No way to trade, means no future.



dot tk i agree with. Same with co.cc or any other free domains. Also, solidcoin's choice to use dot info was a bit of a put off since spammers use them all the time, they just have a bad rep.
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September 05, 2011, 02:38:24 AM
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It is a matter of PERCEPTION being American and think US rules the whole World or everybody in the planet abides by American's tendencies

fix'd.  Tongue

Here folks would be looking prior to .pt rather than .com/.org/.net, at Russia they tend to look first at .ru, France .fr, Italy .it... too bad for you .us came a bit too late or .us would be your primarily "perception" regarding American businesses.

Actually your "perception" is a result of a massive scam in the late 90's, the so called Domain bubble. Even if the bubble in the end blasted, it's massive publicity helped to imprint some ".com friendliness" with internet users.
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September 05, 2011, 02:41:57 AM
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Here folks would be looking prior to .pt rather than .com/.org/.net, at Russia they tend to look first at .ru, France .fr, Italy .it... too bad for you .us came a bit too late or .us would be your primarily "perception" regarding American businesses.

You're absolutely right on that point. And frankly, the fact that most Americans think ".com" means something is pretty sad in and of itself.

It's pretty trivial for someone in, say, Nigeria (which Americans online think is where almost all scams come from) to get a .com, or a .net.

And just because someone has an .ru doesn't guarantee that's where the business is headquartered, etc.

The concept that the domain name system is simply a "yellow pages" phone book for IP addresses and not all entries will be correct or under honest names or even filed correctly is of course lost on the general public.

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September 05, 2011, 02:45:42 AM
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.ru has a bad name due to legions of "warez" sites loaded down with half a billion trojans.
.com/net/org have a good reputation for some reason or other, despite having plenty of attack sites themselves.  Regardless, they are viewed as safer than others.

Should they be?  Hell no.
Are they?  Hell yes.

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September 05, 2011, 03:59:49 AM
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And you take .com as your "primary thought"?! Wow!... Still, not many people knows or cares that .in stands for India. As .tv is for Tuvalu and .fm for Micronesia or .it to Italy.

I though you were american not for "superiority", believe in superiority is what inferior beings do, but for that obnoxious habit of speak ad orbi.
They don't say "our/the US/the American government", they say "THE government".
They don't say "FBI/CIA/our county's police", they say "THE police".
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September 05, 2011, 06:44:10 AM
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@CoinHunter

As someone who was one of the very first people to mine SC and have had a lot of fun doing so I say the following as a SC supporter.

The license change you made will KILL Solid Coin a 100 times faster than anything a few idiots here in this forum could ever do. You are reacting EXACTLY the way they wanted you to and even better.

Without the Bitparking Exchange and Ruxum, especially Bitparking, Solid Coin is terminal.

The remaining three exchanges are pathetic. Mooncoin and Solidcoin24, are you serious???

Your version 1.04 makes some very good changes, but the world will never see it if you don't update your license agreement.

~BCX~

Bitparking looked like a middle school students website project, it was very clunky to use and not very professional looking for it's purpose. The only thing it had going for it was the amount of users on it. I will miss the Ruxum exchange though.

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September 05, 2011, 06:46:43 AM
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@CoinHunter

As someone who was one of the very first people to mine SC and have had a lot of fun doing so I say the following as a SC supporter.

The license change you made will KILL Solid Coin a 100 times faster than anything a few idiots here in this forum could ever do. You are reacting EXACTLY the way they wanted you to and even better.

Without the Bitparking Exchange and Ruxum, especially Bitparking, Solid Coin is terminal.

The remaining three exchanges are pathetic. Mooncoin and Solidcoin24, are you serious???

Your version 1.04 makes some very good changes, but the world will never see it if you don't update your license agreement.

~BCX~

Bitparking looked like a middle school students website project, it was very clunky to use and not very professional looking for it's purpose. The only thing it had going for it was the amount of users on it. I will miss the Ruxum exchange though.

Looks are not everything. DoubleC has been reliable and kept the exchanges up and has great support for all of its users.

It can look better but I rather it work correctly first.

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September 05, 2011, 07:32:06 AM
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I could careless what it looked like, the Bitparking functionality and support was awesome.Never used Ruxum so I cannot comment on it.
Without Bitparking and Ruxum, SC is terminal. Mooncoin as the lead, are you f*cking kidding me?

and...

The way it looks by Coinhunter/RealSolid post he just made over on the Solidcoin forum, he doesn't think anything is wrong, he is right and this will blow over.

Should I take bets on whether he'll piss himself when Oracle goes after him for the money he owes them for using BerkeleyDB in a closed-source for-profit venture in violation of their IP rights? Smiley

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September 05, 2011, 07:39:12 AM
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Should I take bets on whether he'll piss himself when Oracle goes after him for the money he owes them for using BerkeleyDB in a closed-source for-profit venture in violation of their IP rights? Smiley
<sarcasm> How can Oracle have any claim to it, CoinHunter changed the license and he owns it all now  </sarcasm>

Be sure to mention that when you write to piracy@oracle.com because the lawyers might realize CoinHunter is right and there's no way they could...

I'm sorry, I'm laughing too hard to finish the sarcastic reply to your sarcasm. Smiley

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September 05, 2011, 07:49:49 AM
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Not that I believe Realsolid did the right thing (I certainly support open source), it should be noted that under the MIT license he is capable of doing what he did legally, so if it is successful (which I personally believe it won't be) I don't see why it matters if you don't have a preference.
RealSolid removed the COPYING file from the source distribution. That file, the license, states:
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all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
He also renamed the copyright in each file from 'Bitcoin Developers' to 'Solidcoin Developers'. When called out for this by one of the bitcoin developers he refused to change saying something to the effect of "Why should you have a copyright on the bugs you've added". Would you be happy if someone took your open source code, removed the license and changed all the copyright statements to be someone else?
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September 05, 2011, 07:51:55 AM
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Not that I believe Realsolid did the right thing (I certainly support open source), it should be noted that under the MIT license he is capable of doing what he did legally, so if it is successful (which I personally believe it won't be) I don't see why it matters if you don't have a preference.
RealSolid removed the COPYING file from the source distribution. That file, the license, states:
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The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
He also renamed the copyright in each file from 'Bitcoin Developers' to 'Solidcoin Developers'. When called out for this by one of the bitcoin developers he refused to change saying something to the effect of "Why should you have a copyright on the bugs you've added". Would you be happy if someone took your open source code, removed the license and changed all the copyright statements to be someone else?

Nope, but that's why society has lawyers. Smiley

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September 05, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
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So let me get this straight, you are claiming there is absolutely no PERCEIVED difference between a .COM and Country TLD.

Well then I would love to hear the intelligent reason behind why, with your very own site www.mbtCasino.com that you chose a .com over .pt for your homeland of Portugal. Because you knew that a .com was considered more legit, that's why. Which was my original point.



Wrong pal, I "chose" .com because there's no way I could register a .PT unless I've a company registered with that name or such is my civil name.
So, in the subject of legitimacy, .PT is way more legit than any .COM.

«I-dont-have-this-company-registered-anywhere-but-the-name-was-available-for-registering».COM exists
«I-dont-have-this-company-registered-anywhere-but-the-name-was-available-for-registering».PT doesn't

Here you've a little FAQ about the .pt TLD:

http://dominios.pt/domain/examples.aspx
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September 05, 2011, 06:30:38 PM
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Besides arguing that takes time away from your main hobby of being an apologist for CoinHunter.

Here comes the usual straw-man arguments...
No, I'm not, but also not a Troll to go spam the forum with bs.
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September 05, 2011, 06:45:28 PM
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Besides arguing that takes time away from your main hobby of being an apologist for CoinHunter.

Out of all the SolidCoin soap opera, this weird attitude from the campaigners against SC is becoming my favorite part lol.   They are nearly making CoinHunter no longer seem like such a bad guy, and that really sucks, I think you all should tone it down a bit, stick to tech talk, and leave your personal issues with the guy out, it is really looking bad.

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September 05, 2011, 11:29:07 PM
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Without the Bitparking Exchange and Ruxum, especially Bitparking, Solid Coin is terminal.

Yes except now mooncoin has all of bitparkings volume and the other pools are taking SCGuilds share. Strange how people keep wanting to mine and buy SolidCoin. If people want to make business decisions based on their religious like values that is fine, they'll just lose money and let other people take over.

Your version 1.04 makes some very good changes, but the world will never see it if you don't update your license agreement.

Plenty of people are using it, thousands of downloads have been made since 1.04 was released. And just a FYI, people have been saying SolidCoin was dead/terminal/dying since the very first day I released it. It's not exactly shocking to hear someone else think/say it. Smiley

Try SolidCoin or talk with other SolidCoin supporters here SolidCoin Forums
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September 05, 2011, 11:33:15 PM
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Without the Bitparking Exchange and Ruxum, especially Bitparking, Solid Coin is terminal.

Yes except now mooncoin has all of bitparkings volume and the other pools are taking SCGuilds share. Strange how people keep wanting to mine and buy SolidCoin. If people want to make business decisions based on their religious like values that is fine, they'll just lose money and let other people take over.

Your version 1.04 makes some very good changes, but the world will never see it if you don't update your license agreement.

Plenty of people are using it, thousands of downloads have been made since 1.04 was released. And just a FYI, people have been saying SolidCoin was dead/terminal/dying since the very first day I released it. It's not exactly shocking to here someone else think/say it. Smiley

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September 05, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
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I'm OK with that, I'm in "buying SLC season", so the more they turn CH down the better.  Grin
Already have more than 1K Solidcoins (and about 2K IXCoins) to put to my "pen freezer" and wait.
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September 06, 2011, 06:53:23 AM
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Does Apple use bsd code for their os and konqueror code for their browser.  Bitparking is just going to lose out and allow other exchanges to grow stronger.  There are 3 other exchanges, and some open source.   solidcoin making their code non-gpl or non-open might be a mistake.  But, maybe not if people were just going to exploit it.  yes, solidcoin used 99.9% of bitcoin code and knowledge to make his client, but the guy is young and a little upset all the time he spent can be gone with a few clicks. 

To me the concept is not the licenses, it is the power of a full reserve, non-inflationary currency not based on gold.  If he succeeds god bless.
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