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January 14, 2014, 03:22:09 AM
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what would it be?

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"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our constitution; I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its constitution," Jefferson wrote. "I mean an additional article taking from the federal government the power of borrowing.

I think that is pretty good but it might allow for loopholes. I think a better approach would be make sure that the government had to actually tax money before it could spend it. in this way they couldn't borrow money and they also couldn't just create it themselves.

I think it would be possible to let government create their own money on the condition that it was all taxed back from circulation.
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January 14, 2014, 08:07:15 AM
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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January 14, 2014, 08:08:17 AM
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I would make it so that you could be president at 18 or maybe even lower, that's actually one of the only things I disagree with what was written in the U.S constitution, otherwise it's a very good document.
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January 18, 2014, 03:19:29 AM
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I would have added a secession amendment to the bill of rights.

"The right to secede from the union shall be preserved for all states and persons."

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January 18, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
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I would make it so that you could be president at 18 or maybe even lower, that's actually one of the only things I disagree with what was written in the U.S constitution, otherwise it's a very good document.

You're kidding right? A lot of 18 year olds don't know anything about the people running for president except for baseless rumours and "facts" fed by the media and political opponents.

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January 18, 2014, 08:19:45 AM
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All U.S. citizens who are not currently, nor have ever received a salary or aid from the government, are hereby empowered to abolish every totalitarian unit of government with extreme prejudice, and liquidate its assets. The government is absolutely forbidden to resist in any way whatsoever (only fleeing the country into permanent exile will be accepted), and any violent resistance shall be returned legally a thousand fold.

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January 18, 2014, 08:20:27 AM
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I would make it so that you could be president at 18 or maybe even lower, that's actually one of the only things I disagree with what was written in the U.S constitution, otherwise it's a very good document.

You're kidding right? A lot of 18 year olds don't know anything about the people running for president except for baseless rumours and "facts" fed by the media and political opponents.

I'm 23 Smiley there are actually younger people out there who know far more than most adults do about this sort of thing and many of them have access to the internet so they aren't as likely to fall for propaganda anymore, Bitcoin and any other technology is a classic example where the adults are always coming to them for help on it.
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January 18, 2014, 09:55:15 PM
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I wouldn't change anything; if we can't even follow the constitution as-is, then it's a failed concept: a piece of paper cannot defend your rights, only you can.

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January 19, 2014, 03:27:06 AM
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I would make it so that you could be president at 18 or maybe even lower, that's actually one of the only things I disagree with what was written in the U.S constitution, otherwise it's a very good document.

You're kidding right? A lot of 18 year olds don't know anything about the people running for president except for baseless rumours and "facts" fed by the media and political opponents.

I'm 23 Smiley there are actually younger people out there who know far more than most adults do about this sort of thing and many of them have access to the internet so they aren't as likely to fall for propaganda anymore, Bitcoin and any other technology is a classic example where the adults are always coming to them for help on it.
I know but I'm talking about the majority.

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January 19, 2014, 09:24:47 AM
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I would make it so that you could be president at 18 or maybe even lower, that's actually one of the only things I disagree with what was written in the U.S constitution, otherwise it's a very good document.

You're kidding right? A lot of 18 year olds don't know anything about the people running for president except for baseless rumours and "facts" fed by the media and political opponents.

I'm 23 Smiley there are actually younger people out there who know far more than most adults do about this sort of thing and many of them have access to the internet so they aren't as likely to fall for propaganda anymore, Bitcoin and any other technology is a classic example where the adults are always coming to them for help on it.
I know but I'm talking about the majority.

Who gives a fuck? Smiley
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January 20, 2014, 03:40:38 AM
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The USA isn't allowed to exist.
The end.

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January 20, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
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The USA isn't allowed to exist.
The end.

That's a bit extreme isn't it?

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January 20, 2014, 11:52:16 PM
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The USA isn't allowed to exist.
The end.

That's a bit extreme isn't it?
Not at all.

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January 21, 2014, 06:34:15 PM
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I would get rid of the electoral college. Just have a popular vote for president.

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January 21, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
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I would get rid of the electoral college. Just have a popular vote for president.

The electoral college is a thing of beauty. Otherwise cali and ny would pick the president every election. Think of the electoral college as the World Series. You have 50 contests instead of 7. Each contest though is still weighted by the number of people in each state.

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January 22, 2014, 02:31:46 AM
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I would get rid of the electoral college. Just have a popular vote for president.

The electoral college is a thing of beauty. Otherwise cali and ny would pick the president every election. Think of the electoral college as the World Series. You have 50 contests instead of 7. Each contest though is still weighted by the number of people in each state.

Remove the states from the idea; just let every American individual have an equal vote on who the president will be.  Not every New Yorker and Californian is going to be the same fellow.

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January 22, 2014, 02:46:15 PM
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I would get rid of the electoral college. Just have a popular vote for president.

The electoral college is a thing of beauty. Otherwise cali and ny would pick the president every election. Think of the electoral college as the World Series. You have 50 contests instead of 7. Each contest though is still weighted by the number of people in each state.

Remove the states from the idea; just let every American individual have an equal vote on who the president will be.  Not every New Yorker and Californian is going to be the same fellow.

I take it you don't know the difference betwee a democracy and a republic.

Popular vote is just majority rules and majority rule is just two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner.

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January 22, 2014, 03:34:26 PM
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I would get rid of the electoral college. Just have a popular vote for president.

The electoral college is a thing of beauty. Otherwise cali and ny would pick the president every election. Think of the electoral college as the World Series. You have 50 contests instead of 7. Each contest though is still weighted by the number of people in each state.

Remove the states from the idea; just let every American individual have an equal vote on who the president will be.  Not every New Yorker and Californian is going to be the same fellow.

I take it you don't know the difference betwee a democracy and a republic.

Popular vote is just majority rules and majority rule is just two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner.

There is a big difference between direct democracy and a popularly elected president. A popular vote for president still keeps the republic. For governor we do not elect delegates by county, we have a state-wide popular vote. Why should the national election be any different?

On another note, I think the budget should be balanced, but I do not think we need an amendment for that, we just need to have the congress agree to not pass any budget which is not balanced.

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January 22, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
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Have a new item added - Put the people before big corporations, and abolish the federal reserve.
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January 22, 2014, 05:42:48 PM
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Have a new item added - Put the people before big corporations, and abolish the federal reserve.

Putting people first before corporations is a nice thing to say, but what could you do to make that happen? What changes would you want to make to the way things are run that would result in that goal being met?

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