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January 16, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
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Bitcoin is a virtual gold rush right now.  There are so many opportunities for innovation and entrepreneurship that it's hard to sleep at night.  

there's a lot of opportunities to exploit people's naivete, assumptions and ignorance(coupled to sheer greed) regarding this technology.

I agree and that's why the term "virtual gold rush" is appropriate.  There is great promise of rewards but be careful of the risks involved.

In any case, it's an exciting time to be involved in bitcoin.    


what required is a restatement of the goals here.  It was supposed to be a PEER TO PEER currency.  IT wasnt supposed to have blacklists, it wasn't supposed to have a monopoly of processor banks, even the concept of 'mining pools' seems to have been out of the scope of the initial design.  Some of these other supposed leaders suggesting we come international accords regarding Bitcoin?  this is not fulfilling the original goals of this software, actually it's fulfilling the goals of the groups this software was meant to circumvent.  Unfortunately, not enough people see that right now, but plenty will eventually.

reconsider what we currently have from a user perspective... we have 1) a great deal of centralization 2) increasing tx fees 3) unclear valuation 4) unreliability.

Increasing tx fees? I just sent a transaction the other day for half a cent.
Unclear valuation? No I think it's pretty clear at the moment.
Unreliability? I haven't had any troubles so far.

Go troll somewhere else.

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January 16, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
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Bitcoin is a virtual gold rush right now.  There are so many opportunities for innovation and entrepreneurship that it's hard to sleep at night.  

there's a lot of opportunities to exploit people's naivete, assumptions and ignorance(coupled to sheer greed) regarding this technology.

I agree and that's why the term "virtual gold rush" is appropriate.  There is great promise of rewards but be careful of the risks involved.

In any case, it's an exciting time to be involved in bitcoin.    


what required is a restatement of the goals here.  It was supposed to be a PEER TO PEER currency.  IT wasnt supposed to have blacklists, it wasn't supposed to have a monopoly of processor banks, even the concept of 'mining pools' seems to have been out of the scope of the initial design.  Some of these other supposed leaders suggesting we come international accords regarding Bitcoin?  this is not fulfilling the original goals of this software, actually it's fulfilling the goals of the groups this software was meant to circumvent.  Unfortunately, not enough people see that right now, but plenty will eventually.

reconsider what we currently have from a user perspective... we have 1) a great deal of centralization 2) increasing tx fees 3) unclear valuation 4) unreliability.

Increasing tx fees? I just sent a transaction the other day for half a cent.
Unclear valuation? No I think it's pretty clear at the moment.
Unreliability? I haven't had any troubles so far.

Go troll somewhere else.

block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

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January 16, 2014, 09:31:10 PM
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block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

Maybe when there is no more coin being generated, then I'll agree that TX fees must go up. We are a long way from there. It's still drastically better than credit card fees.

I've caught a few double spend stories so unless you can be specific, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Most of the time the claims are unsubstantiated or the people are accepting 0 confirmation transactions.



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January 16, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
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block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

Maybe when there is no more coin being generated, then I'll agree that TX fees must go up. We are a long way from there. It's still drastically better than credit card fees.

correct but Credit Cards are accepted everywhere.

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January 16, 2014, 09:34:04 PM
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block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

Maybe when there is no more coin being generated, then I'll agree that TX fees must go up. We are a long way from there. It's still drastically better than credit card fees.

correct but Credit Cards are accepted everywhere.

LOL

Bitcoin is so young I don't know what you are expecting. Oh wait yes I do - Troll confirmed.

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January 16, 2014, 09:36:21 PM
Last edit: January 16, 2014, 10:07:01 PM by bluemeanie1
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block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

Maybe when there is no more coin being generated, then I'll agree that TX fees must go up. We are a long way from there. It's still drastically better than credit card fees.

correct but Credit Cards are accepted everywhere.

LOL

Bitcoin is so young I don't know what you are expecting. Oh wait yes I do - Troll confirmed.

Im just reasoning through your failed arguments.  But 'troll' seems to be the standard response of someone who doesn't have anything useful to contribute.  As it currently stands, Bitcoin is not really used for any significant commerce.  People like yourself who insist that it can be used for such typically dont have any experience or credibility in this subject matter.

In my view, Bitcoin could be used for most commercial functions but you would need to add a lot more, which will invariably increase the costs associated with it's use.  What youre left with in the end is a very expensive Paypal that does a lot of SHA-256 hashing.  Usually, these kind of oversights have a way of working themselves out, but there's a lot of people who bought a ticket on this ship and theyre not going to let it sink now.

just to give another example, I've done a few consulting assignments where I agreed to be paid in Bitcoin.  It was unbelievably complex, unwieldy, if not expensive.  These simple facts of Bitcoin's usability doesn't seem to deter a certain core of Bitcoin users.  Practically all of this core of bitcoin users are youngish whiteish males.

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January 17, 2014, 04:51:19 AM
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block rewards will get smaller, and the required TX fee will get larger.

guess you didnt catch that news about double spends?

Maybe when there is no more coin being generated, then I'll agree that TX fees must go up. We are a long way from there. It's still drastically better than credit card fees.

correct but Credit Cards are accepted everywhere.

LOL

Bitcoin is so young I don't know what you are expecting. Oh wait yes I do - Troll confirmed.
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That is why I stopped feeding him. Oh dammit, I just did.

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January 17, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
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That is why I stopped feeding him. Oh dammit, I just did.

Jan, all you've contributed to this conversation is fairly uninformed, poorly articulated boosterism.

Pronouncing people who disagree with you as 'trolls' is just a sign of immaturity.

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