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February 23, 2014, 10:32:35 PM
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Shortly something according to the average symbol... we have not an average coin here why should I use the average symbol for it??? Please explain?
Another thing the Bitcoin has build is own one an not just used an existing.... I will vehement recommend not to use it.... every normal person will thing: what's that? Average!!!!
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February 23, 2014, 10:42:32 PM
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Shortly something according to the average symbol... we have not an average coin here why should I use the average symbol for it??? Please explain?
Another thing the Bitcoin has build is own one an not just used an existing.... I will vehement recommend not to use it.... every normal person will thing: what's that? Average!!!!

The average joe public wouldn't even know what an average is!

Anyway, you objection is noted again, so lets see what the rest of the community think. Nobody is saying "Yes, this is what we are going to do"

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February 23, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
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Shortly something according to the average symbol... we have not an average coin here why should I use the average symbol for it??? Please explain?
Another thing the Bitcoin has build is own one an not just used an existing.... I will vehement recommend not to use it.... every normal person will thing: what's that? Average!!!!

I agree that if we were to take the alternative logo we should also take the symbol proposed in it. Not take an existing symbol.

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February 23, 2014, 11:14:52 PM
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Saad.

Can we try your logo with just a single strike through ?

The reason I ask is that there is actually an ASCI/ UTF8 code that has a Latin character O with a single strike. This would make it really easy to price goods with a currency symbol.

U+00D8 Ø Ø latin capital letter O with slash

i.e.
Ø15,000

Just like the dollar
$15,0000

What does everybody think about this as a text based coino currency symbol ?




making that symbol is def. what we should do! thats one of the ideas ive seen yet! keep up the good work

yep! Ø (ALT + 0216) is better... You can use the ALT code! Maybe saad can make a version of that... Or what do you think?

sry but that is the symbol of the arithmetic average... lol -why not using this one ¢ or this ©

i like the versions saad has done so far, but I would prefer to use the current logo as well at the coino.org and all other websites... I think it is something special. Look at the whole other coins which have jsut these boring static brand logos...

If we talking about forms or static ads in newspapers - or if we have in the future a merchandising shop.. with t-shirts, longsleeves, stickers, cups and so on we should use the version saad had done.

I also like the logo Saad has done but for writing out a currency value on your keyboard it would be good to adopt an existing ASCII symbol, and the LATIN O with Strike is the closest symbol to the logo.
It doesn't mater if it's the mathematical average sign, there is no reason it can't be used when referring to coino quantities

I also like the ¢ symbol but maybe to refer to coino cents Smiley

500¢ is equal to Ø5.00

But I think  µØ looks pretty cool anyway

Yeah exactly. I Second the single struck O. I love the double strike but unfortunately we can't implement it. We can easily adopt the single strike, however.

I was trying to find an ASCII symbol with a struck O, that one's perfect. Also love the cent for 100 units, and the mu coino Smiley That'll be the day, when we're dealing in fractions Smiley

No one would confuse it. Only us techies, maths and science majors would know what the averages sign even means. Bitcoin does have it's own symbol, yes. But it can't be used anywhere as it's not implemented into the alt codes... You have to make do with the existing struck Bs.

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February 23, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
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Hi guys,

This is Saad, a user from coinoforum.com

I've been working on rebranding Coino to a more acceptable (by us and normal people) brand look and feel.

The problem for me with the current logo is that it looks geeky, old and not really a logo but an implementation of what the logo should've been. I'm in no way disrespecting the creator of the current logo but I feel that a more solid and full branding task should commence sooner than later.

Here is the final outcome of many valued opinions from members of that forum:







Let me know what you guys think. Smiley

Wow! Awesome job man!I hope Mr Coino and his crew agree aswell!
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February 24, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
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Please stop quoting that huge ass picture its so annoying.
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February 24, 2014, 01:59:12 AM
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Hi guys,

This is Saad, a user from coinoforum.com

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Let me know what you guys think. Smiley

Looks great mate Smiley
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February 24, 2014, 01:59:15 AM
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We should translate an article about Coino into a bunch of languages.
Mandarin first? Any volunteers that have a native language other than English? Or are very proficient in a second language?

Please stop quoting that huge ass picture its so annoying.

lol I agree. Just edit the picture out if you want to quote and comment on it Tongue Like Soregums here did!

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February 24, 2014, 04:38:50 AM
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AT coinmarket.io:

Price   CON   BTC
0.00001504   10   0.0001504
0.00001509   10   0.0001509
0.00001514   10   0.0001514
0.00001519   10   0.0001519
0.00001524   10   0.0001524
0.00001529   10   0.0001529
0.00001534   10   0.0001534
0.00001539   10   0.0001539
0.00001544   10   0.0001544
0.00001549   10   0.0001549
0.00001554   10   0.0001554
0.00001559   10   0.0001559
0.00001564   10   0.0001564
0.00001569   10   0.0001569
0.00001574   10   0.0001574
0.00001579   10   0.0001579
0.00001584   10   0.0001584
0.00001589   10   0.0001589
0.00001594   10   0.0001594
0.00001599   10   0.0001599
0.00001604   10   0.0001604
0.00001609   10   0.0001609
0.00001614   10   0.0001614
0.00001619   10   0.0001619
0.00001624   10   0.0001624
0.00001629   10   0.0001629
0.00001634   10   0.0001634
0.00001639   10   0.0001639
0.00001644   10   0.0001644
0.00001649   10   0.0001649
0.00001650   20.3735   0.00033616
Skipping meaningless orders

I think there will someone that the difficulty stays longer low - another explanation came not in my mind Wink

This just looks like somebody trying to manipulate the price. Otherwise, it's a problem with coinmarket.io

I suspect this is artificial and is designed to get you all to sell you coino low so that they can come along and buy yours cheap

I would pretty much just ignore it.

Yep, definitely price manipulation. Notice how they are all for 10 coino and each order is undercutting the last by 5 satoshi instead of 1.  This is the sort of thing that admins of exchanges should be banning people for.
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February 24, 2014, 04:56:55 AM
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Yep, definitely price manipulation. Notice how they are all for 10 coino and each order is undercutting the last by 5 satoshi instead of 1.  This is the sort of thing that admins of exchanges should be banning people for.

I agree. Does anybody here have contact with the exchange admins?

We really need to point these things out to them.

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Yep, definitely price manipulation. Notice how they are all for 10 coino and each order is undercutting the last by 5 satoshi instead of 1.  This is the sort of thing that admins of exchanges should be banning people for.

I agree. Does anybody here have contact with the exchange admins?

We really need to point these things out to them.

Hmm I think I'm missing something - why ban??

Free markets are suppose to be free...

If someone does this and it works, it is because the market supports it.

If the market is made of up stupid people, then that can't be helped.

If you want total control (any control) then it isn't a free market.

Please Explain to me why you think controls and rules on the "free capitalist market" is the way forward?

(this is like a government wanting to filter the internet)

also lets take this back to BitCoin, everyone is quick to point out how no one can control it unless they own 51% of the hash rate, that is the only place control is enforceable... everything else is agreements between people
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February 24, 2014, 06:33:45 AM
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SoreGums, you make a good point. The problem is just that most people are too ignorant to understand the manipulation that is taking place and it is bad for the coin as a whole.

I don't agree with censorship but there are certain things that cross the line I think.  Take the internet for example.  I don't think the use of the internet should be regulated, but at the same time, people can use the internet to stage DoS attacks.  I think when there is malicious intent, a line has to be drawn somewhere. In this case, the intent is to trick people out of their coins, and therefor their money.  I do understand the idea of, "if they are dumb enough to be fooled into it then it serves them right to lose their coins". But at the same time, it doesn't just hurt the people that are being tricked.  Everyone's coinos are losing value due to this.

In our free market, it is illegal to participate in insider trading.  All these people are doing is benefiting from information being passed along right?  Wrong.  They are profiting off of other peoples loss due to manipulation and being in the know before hand that it is happening.  In a free market, prices should go up and down based on supply and demand, not market manipulation.

These exchanges that coino is on are not setup very well. They are not taking volume into account when determining ticker prices so they are very easily manipulated.  I do agree that people should educate themselves enough to not get taken advantage of, but it is still no excuse to purposely trick people out of their earnings.

I'm with you though, I hate censorship and regulation. Just not as much as I hate manipulation.
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February 24, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
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The solution to this problem is probably not to ban people. The exchanges just need to redo the way they determine the ticker price and take into account the volume. Then the ticker will reflect the true value and the people that are attempting the manipulation will have no incentive to post all of these small orders undercutting themselves over and over.
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February 24, 2014, 06:40:45 AM
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SoreGums, you make a good point. The problem is just that most people are too ignorant to understand the manipulation that is taking place and it is bad for the coin as a whole.

I don't agree with censorship but there are certain things that cross the line I think.  Take the internet for example.  I don't think the use of the internet should be regulated, but at the same time, people can use the internet to stage DoS attacks.  I think when there is malicious intent, a line has to be drawn somewhere. In this case, the intent is to trick people out of their coins, and therefor their money.  I do understand the idea of, "if they are dumb enough to be fooled into it then it serves them right to lose their coins". But at the same time, it doesn't just hurt the people that are being tricked.  Everyone's coinos are losing value due to this.

In our free market, it is illegal to participate in insider trading.  All these people are doing is benefiting from information being passed along right?  Wrong.  They are profiting off of other peoples loss due to manipulation and being in the know before hand that it is happening.  In a free market, prices should go up and down based on supply and demand, not market manipulation.

These exchanges that coino is on are not setup very well. They are not taking volume into account when determining ticker prices so they are very easily manipulated.  I do agree that people should educate themselves enough to not get taken advantage of, but it is still no excuse to purposely trick people out of their earnings.

I'm with you though, I hate censorship and regulation. Just not as much as I hate manipulation.

I'm with you on the manipulation part thanks for that perspective. This sort of direction makes sense and I think the focus on these sorts of discussions is a preferred than a simple/blunt reactionary "ban hammer".

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February 24, 2014, 06:47:58 AM
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SoreGums, you make a good point. The problem is just that most people are too ignorant to understand the manipulation that is taking place and it is bad for the coin as a whole.

I don't agree with censorship but there are certain things that cross the line I think.  Take the internet for example.  I don't think the use of the internet should be regulated, but at the same time, people can use the internet to stage DoS attacks.  I think when there is malicious intent, a line has to be drawn somewhere. In this case, the intent is to trick people out of their coins, and therefor their money.  I do understand the idea of, "if they are dumb enough to be fooled into it then it serves them right to lose their coins". But at the same time, it doesn't just hurt the people that are being tricked.  Everyone's coinos are losing value due to this.

In our free market, it is illegal to participate in insider trading.  All these people are doing is benefiting from information being passed along right?  Wrong.  They are profiting off of other peoples loss due to manipulation and being in the know before hand that it is happening.  In a free market, prices should go up and down based on supply and demand, not market manipulation.

These exchanges that coino is on are not setup very well. They are not taking volume into account when determining ticker prices so they are very easily manipulated.  I do agree that people should educate themselves enough to not get taken advantage of, but it is still no excuse to purposely trick people out of their earnings.

I'm with you though, I hate censorship and regulation. Just not as much as I hate manipulation.

I'm with you on the manipulation part thanks for that perspective. This sort of direction makes sense and I think the focus on these sorts of discussions is a preferred than a simple/blunt reactionary "ban hammer".



You're right.  It's just like the issue of drug policy.  Locking up a drug warlord doesn't solve the problem. Someone else will just step into that role the next day.  Just the same, if one manipulator gets banned, there will be plenty more.  The exchanges just need to be setup better and take into account the volume so that there is no incentive for people to post a bunch of small sell orders at low prices in the first place.
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February 24, 2014, 07:01:47 AM
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Saad.

Can we try your logo with just a single strike through ?

The reason I ask is that there is actually an ASCI/ UTF8 code that has a Latin character O with a single strike. This would make it really easy to price goods with a currency symbol.

U+00D8 Ø Ø latin capital letter O with slash

i.e.
Ø15,000

Just like the dollar
$15,0000

What does everybody think about this as a text based coino currency symbol ?




making that symbol is def. what we should do! thats one of the ideas ive seen yet! keep up the good work

yep! Ø (ALT + 0216) is better... You can use the ALT code! Maybe saad can make a version of that... Or what do you think?

sry but that is the symbol of the arithmetic average... lol -why not using this one ¢ or this ©

i like the versions saad has done so far, but I would prefer to use the current logo as well at the coino.org and all other websites... I think it is something special. Look at the whole other coins which have jsut these boring static brand logos...

If we talking about forms or static ads in newspapers - or if we have in the future a merchandising shop.. with t-shirts, longsleeves, stickers, cups and so on we should use the version saad had done.

I also like the logo Saad has done but for writing out a currency value on your keyboard it would be good to adopt an existing ASCII symbol, and the LATIN O with Strike is the closest symbol to the logo.
It doesn't mater if it's the mathematical average sign, there is no reason it can't be used when referring to coino quantities

I also like the ¢ symbol but maybe to refer to coino cents Smiley

500¢ is equal to Ø5.00

But I think  µØ looks pretty cool anyway

Yeah exactly. I Second the single struck O. I love the double strike but unfortunately we can't implement it. We can easily adopt the single strike, however.

I was trying to find an ASCII symbol with a struck O, that one's perfect. Also love the cent for 100 units, and the mu coino Smiley That'll be the day, when we're dealing in fractions Smiley

No one would confuse it. Only us techies, maths and science majors would know what the averages sign even means. Bitcoin does have it's own symbol, yes. But it can't be used anywhere as it's not implemented into the alt codes... You have to make do with the existing struck Bs.

Please appologise but I don't know where you are living.. Here in Germany every kid after the 6th grade knows the average sign and is normally using it.
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February 24, 2014, 07:27:01 AM
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Please appologise but I don't know where you are living.. Here in Germany every kid after the 6th grade knows the average sign and is normally using it.

For some reason they didn't teach this symbol to me through my 11.5yrs of formal education in Australia.
I even did the 2unit maths (being the 2nd level) in 10 and 11.

Funny.

I thought Unicode handled this for us as well.
Create a font and have it override something that is good enough if the person doesn't have that font?
This would work fine on the internet, only run into issues when working offline and not able to include the required font.

Hmm I see a flaw in my idea, once the world caught up with coino then we'd have a conflict and have two characters occupying the same spot in the map, boo.

Got any other existing characters we are able to cannibalise for our purposes???
Else we might have to simply live with the square character showing up until everyone catches up and it is a non issue going forward.
(wanted to paste the square char however everything I Googled showed how to solve the problem)
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February 24, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
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I was never thought that average sign in shool Sad

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February 24, 2014, 08:13:02 AM
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I was never thought that average sign in shool Sad

It is only used in German-speaking countries.

Elsewhere it is an x with a bar above it or a =  with ~ above it.

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February 24, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
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I was never thought that average sign in shool Sad

It is only used in German-speaking countries.

Elsewhere it is an x with a bar above it or a =  with ~ above it.


yep, that signs i recognize Smiley

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