Bitcoin Forum
December 13, 2024, 01:25:59 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Mitigating Risk, the One Thing You Need to Know!  (Read 1218 times)
alpha492 (OP)
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 195
Merit: 100


View Profile
January 17, 2014, 04:22:16 PM
Last edit: January 22, 2014, 07:35:37 PM by alpha492
 #1

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.net/2014/01/mitigating-risk-only-thing-you-need-to.html

empoweoqwj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
 #2

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2014/01/mitigating-risk-one-thing-you-need-to.html

If you don't know about stop losses, you shouldn't be trading, period. Doesn't guarantee a profit though!
kelsey
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 11:27:07 AM
 #3

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2014/01/mitigating-risk-one-thing-you-need-to.html

Read that link and rather interesting.

I cringe everytime I hear a newbie/or try-hard expert trader using stoploss' (or charts for that matter). The moment you use charts as your primary entry/exit points tis the moment you are just gambling and will never be a longterm profitable trader.

Been in the trading game awhile, yet to meet a wealthy chartist, and yet myself to use a % stop loss strategy.
sofuca
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 16
Merit: 0


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 11:56:50 AM
 #4

how can this be automated? say with bitstamp?

I'd throw a lot more money into bitcoin if I could be rest assured I could go to bed and not wake up in the morning having lost all my money because China has caused a massive crash....
empoweoqwj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
 #5

how can this be automated? say with bitstamp?

I'd throw a lot more money into bitcoin if I could be rest assured I could go to bed and not wake up in the morning having lost all my money because China has caused a massive crash....

Bitstamp does not provide stoplosses. Its amateur in that respect. You need to look at something like coinsetters
sofuca
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 16
Merit: 0


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
 #6

I just found this, http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2013/12/how-to-short-btc-or-ltc.html

Time for some studying!
empoweoqwj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 12:21:35 PM
 #7


bitfinex is awful is many respects. Tread carefully!
alpha492 (OP)
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 195
Merit: 100


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
 #8


bitfinex is awful is many respects. Tread carefully!

They have upsides and downsides, leverage is nice but low volume allows for very strange market behavior.

danyy
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 145
Merit: 100



View Profile
January 18, 2014, 06:43:28 PM
 #9

Always put a stop loss sonner than the take profit action.

odolvlobo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4522
Merit: 3426



View Profile
January 18, 2014, 08:06:02 PM
 #10

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2014/01/mitigating-risk-one-thing-you-need-to.html

Read that link and rather interesting.

I cringe everytime I hear a newbie/or try-hard expert trader using stoploss' (or charts for that matter). The moment you use charts as your primary entry/exit points tis the moment you are just gambling and will never be a longterm profitable trader.

Been in the trading game awhile, yet to meet a wealthy chartist, and yet myself to use a % stop loss strategy.

+1
Traders typically use stop loss to lock in losses, automatically. Think about it.

Join an anti-signature campaign: Click ignore on the members of signature campaigns.
PGP Fingerprint: 6B6BC26599EC24EF7E29A405EAF050539D0B2925 Signing address: 13GAVJo8YaAuenj6keiEykwxWUZ7jMoSLt
alpha492 (OP)
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 195
Merit: 100


View Profile
January 18, 2014, 08:14:13 PM
 #11

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2014/01/mitigating-risk-one-thing-you-need-to.html

Read that link and rather interesting.

I cringe everytime I hear a newbie/or try-hard expert trader using stoploss' (or charts for that matter). The moment you use charts as your primary entry/exit points tis the moment you are just gambling and will never be a longterm profitable trader.

Been in the trading game awhile, yet to meet a wealthy chartist, and yet myself to use a % stop loss strategy.

The % stop-loss example was used here in order to cater to a more general audience, more advanced stop-loss techniques will be coming to the site soon.

But I was afraid mentioning more advanced stop-loss techniques may convolute the point of the article which is that stop-loss is the one and only means to becoming a profitable trader.

As mentioned in the article, even the most primitive stop-loss techniques can be used very successfully.  Unfortunately, as mentioned in previous comments many exchanges in the 'crypto-biz' don't offer a platform that allows for reasonably seamless management of more advanced stop-loss techniques.

So if you have found a way to execute something in an effective way more power to you, but for your average reader, % stop-loss is still effective.

empoweoqwj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 19, 2014, 03:30:43 AM
 #12

I cringe every time a new trader asks me in our live Q&A channel whether or not that should exit some horrible position at ~10%, ~15%, or even ~20% losses.  Stop-loss is everything for a trader and if you don't have some grasp on how to mitigate risk your just gambling.

The moment you can mitigate risk effectively is the moment you become a consistently profitable trader!

http://www.wallstreetcrypto.com/2014/01/mitigating-risk-one-thing-you-need-to.html

Read that link and rather interesting.

I cringe everytime I hear a newbie/or try-hard expert trader using stoploss' (or charts for that matter). The moment you use charts as your primary entry/exit points tis the moment you are just gambling and will never be a longterm profitable trader.

Been in the trading game awhile, yet to meet a wealthy chartist, and yet myself to use a % stop loss strategy.

The % stop-loss example was used here in order to cater to a more general audience, more advanced stop-loss techniques will be coming to the site soon.

But I was afraid mentioning more advanced stop-loss techniques may convolute the point of the article which is that stop-loss is the one and only means to becoming a profitable trader.

As mentioned in the article, even the most primitive stop-loss techniques can be used very successfully.  Unfortunately, as mentioned in previous comments many exchanges in the 'crypto-biz' don't offer a platform that allows for reasonably seamless management of more advanced stop-loss techniques.

So if you have found a way to execute something in an effective way more power to you, but for your average reader, % stop-loss is still effective.

There are many varieties of stop-loss. A % stop-loss is the most basic, but better than nothing. The hard part most people find with stop losses is actually sticking to them - they instead often cancel the stop-loss and turn to "hope" that the trade will turn round into a winner Wink
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!