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January 30, 2014, 08:03:58 PM
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We don't recommend you to register and deposit in bitvesor because of we had found it's creators and had filed a lawsuit on them. So this site will be closed soon.

"Yes your honor I'd like to file a claim against bitvestor for infringement on our propriety concept known as a 'Ponzi-scheme"
*handcuff clicking noise*

That's like calling the cops because somebody stole your bag of crack.

I'm sure some people will make profits with this but it's only a matter of time until this turns all bitbond-y and the SEC is taking action. I haven't done a whois on the domain but if either site has any connection to the actual owners of the funds then i'd start sweating if I were the owners. Just because you put up a risk of loss disclaimer doesn't mean you are off the hook. Again, that'd be like a crack dealer putting a warning on their bags "may be addictive" and expecting use that as a defense in court.
From SEC.gov:
"With little or no legitimate earnings, Ponzi schemes require a consistent flow of money from new investors to continue. Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out."

Let me fix your post while i'm at it:
We don't recommend you to register and deposit in bitvesor because of we had found it's creators and had filed a lawsuit on them. So this site* will be closed soon.

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January 30, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
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Their site ATM:

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Catchable fatal error: Object of class Main could not be converted to string in /home/makebtco/public_html/Main.class on line 1606

I didn't understand your post

I don't want to defend makebtc because I understand that it may seems like a bank/investment opportunity when it is gambling but I am not sure it is worse than playing a casino game
Most people will just play some money that they can afford to lose and sadly some will play too big and get hurt

We are at 14.66 out of 15 on this bank, it looks good to pass this bank, the problem with the bonuses is that each 1BTC deposit only contributes to a 0.5BTC augmentation in the bank collection

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January 30, 2014, 08:40:49 PM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

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January 31, 2014, 01:27:15 AM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

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January 31, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

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Ok, when will it start?

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January 31, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
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Catchable fatal error: Object of class Main could not be converted to string in /home/makebtco/public_html/Main.class on line 1606

I didn't understand your post

I don't want to defend makebtc because I understand that it may seems like a bank/investment opportunity when it is gambling but I am not sure it is worse than playing a casino game
Most people will just play some money that they can afford to lose and sadly some will play too big and get hurt

We are at 14.66 out of 15 on this bank, it looks good to pass this bank, the problem with the bonuses is that each 1BTC deposit only contributes to a 0.5BTC augmentation in the bank collection

Bank 15 made it but has someone experience with the payout of the bonus. As you all can see I sold a lot but I didnt receive it all........
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January 31, 2014, 08:02:00 PM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.
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January 31, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?
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January 31, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?

Yes, sure there is at least 50 people having profit from this up to now. And I'm one of them Smiley (Yesterday I re-invest to the system, so my profit lowered, but I was %57 profit until my last investment. I don't know the exact number of people who reach profit, but you can easily check from the logs.
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January 31, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?

Yes, sure there is at least 50 people having profit from this up to now. And I'm one of them Smiley (Yesterday I re-invest to the system, so my profit lowered, but I was %57 profit until my last investment. I don't know the exact number of people who reach profit, but you can easily check from the logs.

Yes, you can check the logs but I sold 10BTC levels and should receive 5BTC as you can see in the logs. Payment has stopped at 1BTC so many profit but no payment. I dont deposit anymore. Thats for sure!
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February 01, 2014, 12:41:33 AM
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February 01, 2014, 07:45:49 AM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?

Yes, sure there is at least 50 people having profit from this up to now. And I'm one of them Smiley (Yesterday I re-invest to the system, so my profit lowered, but I was %57 profit until my last investment. I don't know the exact number of people who reach profit, but you can easily check from the logs.

Yes, you can check the logs but I sold 10BTC levels and should receive 5BTC as you can see in the logs. Payment has stopped at 1BTC so many profit but no payment. I dont deposit anymore. Thats for sure!

Do you understand that whenever you sell your level, you will receive 50% of the value only?
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February 01, 2014, 07:56:51 AM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?

Yes, sure there is at least 50 people having profit from this up to now. And I'm one of them Smiley (Yesterday I re-invest to the system, so my profit lowered, but I was %57 profit until my last investment. I don't know the exact number of people who reach profit, but you can easily check from the logs.

Yes, you can check the logs but I sold 10BTC levels and should receive 5BTC as you can see in the logs. Payment has stopped at 1BTC so many profit but no payment. I dont deposit anymore. Thats for sure!

This morning when I logged in my level was mysteriously ~1BTC lower.  I reached out to them and was told that it was a computing error and that it had been fixed.  I logged back in and all they did was modify my other statistics to show lower numbers as well.  When I pointed out the discrepancy and that the logs showed the correct higher amount I was accused of cheating and told the system was correct and I was wrong.  Needless to say, I think I'm done.

There was a bug. When you had your levels listed for sale, you were also buying, and you bought from yourself. Your level was adding as you bought with 50% bonus but didn't lower as you sold. Now the bug is fixed. When you noticed this, you were under obligation to report to us, according to our rules, but you started to sell your level again hoping to receive some more levels for free. (Technically this is violation of the user agreement and you are lucky we haven't set your level to zero.)
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February 01, 2014, 09:32:51 AM
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Makebtc, could you please give us some updates about when&where you plan to advertise?

Google + bitcointalk

You were too new to bid on the advertising auction, but maybe you could sell signatures.

Not sure selling signatures for a pyramid will go down too well. Doubt google would advertise this either.

Is anyone in profit yet from this?

Yes, sure there is at least 50 people having profit from this up to now. And I'm one of them Smiley (Yesterday I re-invest to the system, so my profit lowered, but I was %57 profit until my last investment. I don't know the exact number of people who reach profit, but you can easily check from the logs.

Yes, you can check the logs but I sold 10BTC levels and should receive 5BTC as you can see in the logs. Payment has stopped at 1BTC so many profit but no payment. I dont deposit anymore. Thats for sure!

Do you understand that whenever you sell your level, you will receive 50% of the value only?

I understand that very good and thats what I saw on my wallet. When someone deposit 0,5BTC I received 0,25BTC. As the site says. So yes I know that very well but the numbers say I sold about 10BTC, erverybody can see in the logs. But the payments opf selling the levels stopped at about 1BTC. I know 50% but I didnt know thats the site only pays 20%. Same as Opnoskat I think I am done. The site does not what it says. We all could know it, but I didnt expect it after 1 month.......
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February 01, 2014, 12:35:25 PM
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makeBTC is apparently buying adds on bitcointalk : he can expect 1200 000 impressions which should bring thousands of new players and hundreds of new deposits, don't you think?

Quote from: MakeBTC on January 31, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
I've sent you the bitcoins equal to my bid of 1.25

OK, you can bid up to 2.5 total without paying more. Pay to the same address as before if you want to increase your bids beyond that.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.30 Goat
1 1.30 victorhing
1 1.25 MakeBTC
2 1.25 ppanther
3 1.20 CEX

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February 01, 2014, 12:44:08 PM
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makeBTC is apparently buying adds on bitcointalk : he can expect 1200 000 impressions which should bring thousands of new players and hundreds of new deposits, don't you think?

Quote from: MakeBTC on January 31, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
I've sent you the bitcoins equal to my bid of 1.25

OK, you can bid up to 2.5 total without paying more. Pay to the same address as before if you want to increase your bids beyond that.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.30 Goat
1 1.30 victorhing
1 1.25 MakeBTC
2 1.25 ppanther
3 1.20 CEX

Bitcointalk will advertise a pyramid scheme?
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February 01, 2014, 01:39:03 PM
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makeBTC is apparently buying adds on bitcointalk : he can expect 1200 000 impressions which should bring thousands of new players and hundreds of new deposits, don't you think?

Quote from: MakeBTC on January 31, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
I've sent you the bitcoins equal to my bid of 1.25

OK, you can bid up to 2.5 total without paying more. Pay to the same address as before if you want to increase your bids beyond that.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.30 Goat
1 1.30 victorhing
1 1.25 MakeBTC
2 1.25 ppanther
3 1.20 CEX

Bitcointalk will advertise a pyramid scheme?

Apparently yes, I guess they accept it because it advertises itself as it is. Ponzi scheme are illegal because they don't work though but I guess that if you change the rules along the way you can keep it going for a while, we will see
1 200 000 ads impressions in 9days on bitcointalk will definitely bring a lot of players and probably 10BTC in deposits, makeBTC could use some of the money deposited or revinvested by players to buy add campaigns

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February 01, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
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your site has a really nice design
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February 02, 2014, 10:18:55 AM
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your site has a really nice design

Design is great but I think it is more inportant that the site does what it promise. And there is goes wrong. No payments. I hope a lot registered people will read this forum. I think they do because the deposit is not going very well. Don't deposit. It is fake, no payments!
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February 02, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
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makeBTC is apparently buying adds on bitcointalk : he can expect 1200 000 impressions which should bring thousands of new players and hundreds of new deposits, don't you think?

Quote from: MakeBTC on January 31, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
I've sent you the bitcoins equal to my bid of 1.25

OK, you can bid up to 2.5 total without paying more. Pay to the same address as before if you want to increase your bids beyond that.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.30 Goat
1 1.30 victorhing
1 1.25 MakeBTC
2 1.25 ppanther
3 1.20 CEX

Bitcointalk will advertise a pyramid scheme?

Apparently yes, I guess they accept it because it advertises itself as it is. Ponzi scheme are illegal because they don't work though but I guess that if you change the rules along the way you can keep it going for a while, we will see
1 200 000 ads impressions in 9days on bitcointalk will definitely bring a lot of players and probably 10BTC in deposits, makeBTC could use some of the money deposited or revinvested by players to buy add campaigns

I hope nobody will deposit on MakeBTC because they are losing money. Read my posts and you will never deposit again on that site. It is fake. No payments. Promised a lot nut they dont do what they promise.
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