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[TanteStefana2]

Hey guys, Can I please ask all you Masternode Voters out there, to come read and give your thoughts on this possible proposal to increase the core team's salaries.  It's currently too small.  The guys are getting paid something like under $200 worth of dash a month and they do so much.  Unlike Evan and possibly one or two other people, most of the team came to us after the initial mining hiccup and cheap prices.  What Dash they own were hard bought, and not so many.  I know Evan wanted to be conservative, but I also think he intended to share the initial salary budget with a much smaller team.  The team has grown quite a bit, and there are new team members going through the vetting process.

Now I know that in the future, the way this should work, is each person working for Dash should be a sub-contractor.  But we're still early on, and the wheels are being greased, and the MN owners are fickle, so one budget seems the safest route to go for now, the short term.

Speaking of which, I propose we do this no more than quarterly, as the Dash price could jump up this year, and the budget Evan proposes could become plenty.  Then again, it could continue to stagnate. 

So please come discuss this.  I'm willing to put the 5 coins up for this, but I'm pretty damn poor so that's a lot of money to me, so I want a good indicator that this will be voted in before I risk it (It would break my heart if I lost them thar coins to a failed effort, LOL)  So I can only feel confident if you all speak up.  So please come over and give me a piece of your mind

https://dashtalk.org/threads/core-team-budget-update-proposal.7427/#post-77620

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[eduffield]

Hey guys, Can I please ask all you Masternode Voters out there, to come read and give your thoughts on this possible proposal to increase the core team's salaries.  It's currently too small.  The guys are getting paid something like under $200 worth of dash a month and they do so much.  Unlike Evan and possibly one or two other people, most of the team came to us after the initial mining hiccup and cheap prices.  What Dash they own were hard bought, and not so many.  I know Evan wanted to be conservative, but I also think he intended to share the initial salary budget with a much smaller team.  The team has grown quite a bit, and there are new team members going through the vetting process.

Now I know that in the future, the way this should work, is each person working for Dash should be a sub-contractor.  But we're still early on, and the wheels are being greased, and the MN owners are fickle, so one budget seems the safest route to go for now, the short term.

Speaking of which, I propose we do this no more than quarterly, as the Dash price could jump up this year, and the budget Evan proposes could become plenty.  Then again, it could continue to stagnate. 

So please come discuss this.  I'm willing to put the 5 coins up for this, but I'm pretty damn poor so that's a lot of money to me, so I want a good indicator that this will be voted in before I risk it (It would break my heart if I lost them thar coins to a failed effort, LOL)  So I can only feel confident if you all speak up.  So please come over and give me a piece of your mind

https://dashtalk.org/threads/core-team-budget-update-proposal.7427/#post-77620

We're actually working on making sweeping changes to the way the core-team salaries are calculated at the moment. Can we wait to have this conversation? We'll be releasing something soon, maybe Monday.

[RobRoy]

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[dazbarlby]

design 2

It is also good alternative design! But I insist we need a "www.dash.org" somewhere on top (as most visible place in crowd).
Because it'll be not Dash's conference, but Bitcoin's - so lots of new people will want to know "What is Dash?"- so we have to give them the direction where to go.

What's with the heart? It would look better with a giant "D" or a cartoon DASH WIZARD

The heart represents the love for dash everybody will have after using it :-)

I don't think the DASH D needs to be in as it is incorporated into the word DASH.

[Minotaur26]

last one

That is really cool and people would be able to see the website from afar so it works as a billboard too.

[bluebit25]

Hey guys, Can I please ask all you Masternode Voters out there, to come read and give your thoughts on this possible proposal to increase the core team's salaries.  It's currently too small.  The guys are getting paid something like under $200 worth of dash a month and they do so much.  Unlike Evan and possibly one or two other people, most of the team came to us after the initial mining hiccup and cheap prices.  What Dash they own were hard bought, and not so many.  I know Evan wanted to be conservative, but I also think he intended to share the initial salary budget with a much smaller team.  The team has grown quite a bit, and there are new team members going through the vetting process.

Now I know that in the future, the way this should work, is each person working for Dash should be a sub-contractor.  But we're still early on, and the wheels are being greased, and the MN owners are fickle, so one budget seems the safest route to go for now, the short term.

Speaking of which, I propose we do this no more than quarterly, as the Dash price could jump up this year, and the budget Evan proposes could become plenty.  Then again, it could continue to stagnate. 

So please come discuss this.  I'm willing to put the 5 coins up for this, but I'm pretty damn poor so that's a lot of money to me, so I want a good indicator that this will be voted in before I risk it (It would break my heart if I lost them thar coins to a failed effort, LOL)  So I can only feel confident if you all speak up.  So please come over and give me a piece of your mind

https://dashtalk.org/threads/core-team-budget-update-proposal.7427/#post-77620

Maybe Otoh can chip in Two people own like 5% of Dash on https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-darkcoin-addresses.html

Might be one person, would be nice if they chip in.

[Minotaur26]

Maybe Otoh can chip in Two people own like 5% of Dash on https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-darkcoin-addresses.html

Might be one person, would be nice if they chip in.

I doubt it, Dash investors run masternodes, so that is much more likely to be exchanges or something.

[qwizzie]

there are now two extra soda machine budget proposals since the last hour :



The first one has transaction id : cf26e6b9bca96048c8fc9ff48f3dbbc3eeb80c19ebc895c2bc13b6f4525170f9 so that looks to be Evan's budget proposal,
is the second one a mistake ?

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

there are now two soda machine budget proposals since the last hour :



The first one has transaction id : cf26e6b9bca96048c8fc9ff48f3dbbc3eeb80c19ebc895c2bc13b6f4525170f9 so that looks to be Evan's budget proposal,
is the second one a mistake ?

First one couldn't fit, one DASH too much, so Evan submitted another one with a new total.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

last one

That is really cool and people would be able to see the website from afar so it works as a billboard too.

I can see why it's final! Nicely done. Clean, and incorporates everything.

[pille]

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Good one. Although I liked the ICE cooling Dash-D idea too. Maybe some smaller Dash-D ice cubes in between the cans?

[qwizzie]

there are now two soda machine budget proposals since the last hour :

The first one has transaction id : cf26e6b9bca96048c8fc9ff48f3dbbc3eeb80c19ebc895c2bc13b6f4525170f9 so that looks to be Evan's budget proposal,
is the second one a mistake ?

First one couldn't fit, one DASH too much, so Evan submitted another one with a new total.

i think its better we all vote NO to the second incorrect budget proposal (Proposal “591-soda-machine“) so it disappears from the budget list fast...

[TanteStefana2]

https://www.dashwhale.org/budget

Instantx-Soda-Machin

Will not be paid with next budget. This proposal exeeds the remaining
unallocated budget of 591 DASH!

FYI.... my advice to budget proposal OP : try to get as many votes as possible as its battling other budget proposals for allocation right now...

edit : with the one-time payment of the sponsership of the Daily Decrypt, the budget round after the next one should get the Instantx-Soda_Machin covered (frees up 150 Dash).
(unless another budget proposal pops up). Not sure if this budget proposal needs to be resubmitted though ...

There is 591 DASH available, the simple solution would be to do a proposal for that amount so the whole budget can be allocated. The difference is small 60 DASH that we can fund separate or later. Otherwise the 590 DASH would no be created. This way we can have full budget allocation this month which would be nice.

Full allocation, YES!

If a penny saved is a penny earned, then a duff lost is a duff wasted!

[TanteStefana2]

There is 591 DASH available, the simple solution would be to do a proposal for that amount so the whole budget can be allocated. The difference is small 60 DASH that we can fund separate or later. Otherwise the 590 DASH would no be created. This way we can have full budget allocation this month which would be nice.

I can see:
1. Instantx-Soda-Machine - 650 DASH - 21.67%
2. labitconf-adv - 1,500 DASH - 18.7%

So... Is there a risk of labitconf-adv won't be compensated (1500 DASH won't be created)? ... Seems like there is some space to improve the budget allocation algorithm...

labitconf-adv is an old proposal, it was already paid and it will not be paid ever again. Maybe we should continue the conversation in dashtalk, not to disturb the conversation here.  

The only issue with the soda machine proposal is it exceeds the available budget by 60 DASH, that is all. To be honest proposal owner should have checked when making the proposal what was the availability. Solution is simple just do a new one for 590 DASH and done, the difference is small, no need to make it a big deal.

Unfortanately the "591-soda-machine" was a little bit too big for the next super block and will not be paid. Due to this I've went ahead and submitted a new proposal called "590-soda-machine", which will definitely fit in the next budget. For future reference, here's how I figured out out the spacing.

The command "mnbudget projection" will give you the exact budget that will be paid if the budget was finalized right now. From this command, from this command you can look at the last "TotalBudgetAlloted", which represents the total amount that will be allocated and paid in the next super block. Currently this amount is 7432.26000000. I've also added a new command in the v13-evo branch on our main github, "mnbudget nextbudgetsize", this will calculate the next budget superblock size.

mnbudget nextbudgetsize == 802285689600
mnbudget totalbudgetalloted == 7432.26000000

802285689600-7432.26000000 = 59059689600 (590.59 DASH)

So now we have an excess of .59 DASH, I think we're good

Ps: this is exactly how the budget system was intended to be used and work! It's really exciting to see us filling up the budgets to their exact allowed amount and prioritizing what we're doing. I'll also try to improve the commands for getting this type of information from the budget system, it's a real pain at the moment, but I see what needs to be done.

Please vote!

mnbudget vote cf26e6b9bca96048c8fc9ff48f3dbbc3eeb80c19ebc895c2bc13b6f4525170f9 yes

It would be nice to have a clean easy to read monthly budget allocation, or proposed future allocation that's easy to read.  I tried to understand it by looking into the budget command, but it was just confusing!

[eduffield]

there are now two soda machine budget proposals since the last hour :

The first one has transaction id : cf26e6b9bca96048c8fc9ff48f3dbbc3eeb80c19ebc895c2bc13b6f4525170f9 so that looks to be Evan's budget proposal,
is the second one a mistake ?

First one couldn't fit, one DASH too much, so Evan submitted another one with a new total.

i think its better we all vote NO to the second incorrect budget proposal (Proposal “591-soda-machine“) so it disappears from the budget list fast...

Yep, that's the best idea.

[qwizzie]

Now that we are discussing budget proposals ..

Do we have a fix for the problem which caused the public awareness budget not getting paid in december 2015 ?

[TanteStefana2]

Hey guys, Can I please ask all you Masternode Voters out there, to come read and give your thoughts on this possible proposal to increase the core team's salaries.  It's currently too small.  The guys are getting paid something like under $200 worth of dash a month and they do so much.  Unlike Evan and possibly one or two other people, most of the team came to us after the initial mining hiccup and cheap prices.  What Dash they own were hard bought, and not so many.  I know Evan wanted to be conservative, but I also think he intended to share the initial salary budget with a much smaller team.  The team has grown quite a bit, and there are new team members going through the vetting process.

Now I know that in the future, the way this should work, is each person working for Dash should be a sub-contractor.  But we're still early on, and the wheels are being greased, and the MN owners are fickle, so one budget seems the safest route to go for now, the short term.

Speaking of which, I propose we do this no more than quarterly, as the Dash price could jump up this year, and the budget Evan proposes could become plenty.  Then again, it could continue to stagnate. 

So please come discuss this.  I'm willing to put the 5 coins up for this, but I'm pretty damn poor so that's a lot of money to me, so I want a good indicator that this will be voted in before I risk it (It would break my heart if I lost them thar coins to a failed effort, LOL)  So I can only feel confident if you all speak up.  So please come over and give me a piece of your mind

https://dashtalk.org/threads/core-team-budget-update-proposal.7427/#post-77620

We're actually working on making sweeping changes to the way the core-team salaries are calculated at the moment. Can we wait to have this conversation? We'll be releasing something soon, maybe Monday.

OK, sorry I'm so late seeing this.  I'm doing projects at the same time trying to catch up here, LOL. 

[eduffield]

Now that we are discussing budget proposals ..

Do we have a fix for the problem which caused the public awareness budget not getting paid in december 2015 ?

Yes,  this will be fixed completely in the next version or evolution . Until then we will be finalizing the budgets manually to make sure they work.

[TanteStefana2]

last one

OK, something has been bothering me.  I like the red of the coke cans, but hate the yellow/orange of the Fanta cans.  Can you include cans with cooler colors?  Not that I want to keep it monotone so much as not so jarring?  Red just looks good with blue, and you could add silver diet coke cans too.  Maybe Dr. Pepper?  It'd keep the theme looking cool and refreshing.  The one with the heart and warm browns would be awesome for a coffee or hot cocoa machine  

Now that I've caught up, I think I'll be out-voted anyway, and with the cans bigger, it's not so bad, so ignore my comment unless you agree, LOL 

OK, that was my 2 cents......... except that my favorite so far was the evolution D and the dash.org at the bottom because that's not as important IMO, they'll find the website easy enough

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

last one

OK, something has been bothering me.  I like the red of the coke cans, but hate the yellow/orange of the Fanta cans.  Can you include cans with cooler colors?  Not that I want to keep it monotone so much as not so jarring?  Red just looks good with blue, and you could add silver diet coke cans too.  Maybe Dr. Pepper?  It'd keep the theme looking cool and refreshing.  The one with the heart and warm browns would be awesome for a coffee or hot cocoa machine  

OK, that was my 2 cents......... except that my favorite so far was the evolution D and the dash.org at the bottom because that's not as important IMO, they'll find the website easy enough

I don't believe we will be able to please everyone on this. This last one has been getting good reviews, overall.