[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Riseman]

Any predictions on where to buy again? I think somewhere between 0.0065 and 0.007.

[UdjinM6]

Anyone know where I could get historical price data for our market? I'm looking for an export of "open,close,high,low,price,volume", preferably in CSV

Just use the polo API to extract it.

Yep, that could work for historical ochl quite good.
https://poloniex.com/support/api/
https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnChartData&currencyPair=BTC_DASH&start=1000000000&end=9999999999&period=14400

Volume data will be irrelevant though because most of our volume was on mintpal and then on cryptsy back in these days I believe...

[Sub-Ether]

Wow... I just logged into BitFinex... I had no idea I had some Darkcoin in there (yep, darkcoin they were!).
 I am flabbergasted. I don't usually make these mistakes... kudos to them for keeping my wallet alive!

Maybe they intend to bring 'DRK' back one day soon 
You can get very good rates for loaning fiat out with Bitfinex at over 20%, and btc loans are good as well.
Puts a new angle and smashes the comical bank rates eh.
Check margin funding section.

[RJMcSherry]

It pains me to watch DASH suffer as ETH and some of those others on Polo skyrocket 

Hopefully it will be our turn again someday.

[toknormal]

It pains me to watch DASH suffer as ETH and some of those others on Polo skyrocket 

There is fever setting in now.

[RJMcSherry]

It pains me to watch DASH suffer as ETH and some of those others on Polo skyrocket 

There is fever setting in now.

I understand that ETH has some pretty innovative tech behind it with a good dev team, but so does DASH (if not better)... The amount of volume is just absurd at this point!

[pbleak]

It pains me to watch DASH suffer as ETH and some of those others on Polo skyrocket 

There is fever setting in now.

I understand that ETH has some pretty innovative tech behind it with a good dev team, but so does DASH (if not better)... The amount of volume is just absurd at this point!

I'm a huge fan of Evan, but I don't think people broadly think he is a better dev than what is on offer at ETH. What Ether is riding is industry interest and the mess that is the scaling debate. If you are moving out of Bitcoin now and you want a safe place you will likely go with Ether for now. DASH has had major runs in the past though. There was some frenzied DRK moments for sure.

[toknormal]

I understand that ETH has some pretty innovative tech behind it with a good dev team, but so does DASH (if not better)... The amount of volume is just absurd at this point!

I'd say Dash is actually doing pretty impressively in the face of it. It's only drifted a little bit against bitcoin and BTC has gained against fiat.

Ethereum was always going to moon to some level if they pulled it off to first base which was basically implementing the language without blowing up. They've done that and there are companies piling in now to take advantage of all the use cases that present themselves.

What to look out for is if it causes a fundamental shift in the landscape - i.e. an avalanche if disinvestment from bitcoin. That hasn't happened yet. ETH is still a hedge for most investors. We already went through all this with Litecoin which - although it may seem like nothing now - was a huge improvement on Bitcoin in its day. It shot up like Ether is doing now and got to 25% of Bitcoin's marketcap. Ether is currently only at around 8%. The question is, will its success do one of two things:

[A] - invoke a catapault effect on Bitcoin by pulling in a lot of new external money and propelling Bitcoin to new highs (complimentary influence)

(B) - invoke a competitive migration from one to the other and hole Bitcoin beneath the waterline (adverse influence)

[A] would actually be great for Dash (hope for the Ether pump to continue). (B) not so great (hope for it to burst).

We'll just need to wait and see but my bet is on [A] at the moment since I think investors are buying money more than technology, but this is all uncharted waters (well - slightly charted actually, see below).

The precedent is Litecoin. Have a look at the Bitcoin and Litecoin charts from 2013. Switch to the 1-Week range (top left) and wind back to 2013 (just grab the chart anywhere in the black area and push it to the right). Litecoin popped in November and there was Litcoin fever which drove it up twice the height Ethereum is now. Then exactly 1 month later Bitcoin popped and went off on a similar screaming pump.

If we really are in a monetary asset market then newcomers like Ethereum could have an extremely favourable effect on the market in general since the more diverse and capitalised the range of offerings gets, the more gravity it will have for investment outside of the croney bitcointalk sphere.

In my street 30 years ago there were two coffee shops. It was a residential area - starting to be a bit trendy but it still had a down to earth residential economy such as butchers, grocers etc. 30 years later it's now the hippest square mile in the city. There are about 30 coffee shops, a cinema, a theatre and a luxury supermarket. Anyone selling coffee there can charge about 3 times the price they could 30 years ago adjusted for inflation despite the fact that there's 15 times the competition.

Got to look at these things from all angles  

[Riseman]

It's strange to see that even Doge is taking a lesser hit. Does someone really think Doge is a better investment than Dash?

[toknormal]

It's strange to see that even Doge is taking a lesser hit. Does someone really think Doge is a better investment than Dash?

I thought you expected that. You already said Dash was going to 65 

[Riseman]

It's strange to see that even Doge is taking a lesser hit. Does someone really think Doge is a better investment than Dash?

I thought you expected that. You already said Dash was going to 65 

Actually not. If Dash is better than Doge then less Dash holders should migrate to Eth than Doge holders.

[toknormal]

Actually not. If Dash is better than Doge then less Dash holders should migrate to Eth than Doge holders.

You're confusing investing with day trading.

[Sub-Ether]

Actually not. If Dash is better than Doge then less Dash holders should migrate to Eth than Doge holders.

You're confusing investing with day trading.

I do that all the time, but never with monero 

[ImI]

The reason for this is imo, that Dash promised a lot and a lot of projects started, but one has the impression that none of those really found it's end.

For instance darkmixing. For how long now is this feature available now? A year? Recently i used it for the first time and was SO dissapointed. It took me 2 (!) days to mix 1000 coins. Unbelievable! Who do expect to use that stuff when everything takes so long? I know its a solvable issue. But ffs its been a year now! Same goes for masternode blinding etc.

You got to finish things first before moving ahead and open new projects.

Justmy2satoshis.

[toknormal]

You got to finish things first before moving ahead and open new projects.

From a user's perspective that's fair comment I think.

At the same time, that iteration of the development roadmap did get finished and did get into production and does work. That is a huge success given the size of the challenge at hand - implementing almost total anonyimity whilst keeping the blockchain as transparent as bitcoin's.

In any major software or engineering project, performance and optimisation are usually the last priorities to be addressed because things have to work before they're deemed worth optimising. So for me, everything is being done in the right order.

[toknormal]

Asian markets recommencing tank procedure. Nikkei down 4.2% in 10 minutes.

[bigrcanada1]

The reason for this is imo, that Dash promised a lot and a lot of projects started, but one has the impression that none of those really found it's end.

For instance darkmixing. For how long now is this feature available now? A year? Recently i used it for the first time and was SO dissapointed. It took me 2 (!) days to mix 1000 coins. Unbelievable! Who do expect to use that stuff when everything takes so long? I know its a solvable issue. But ffs its been a year now! Same goes for masternode blinding etc.

You got to finish things first before moving ahead and open new projects.

Justmy2satoshis.

I also agree.  I think we need a bit more communication and maybe a graphical representation of what is being worked on and how far down the road development is.   A clear and concise document/info graph showing what is all being worked on and progress reports in a timely manner would be nice to have.  IMHO. 

[HinnomTX]

The reason for this is imo, that Dash promised a lot and a lot of projects started, but one has the impression that none of those really found it's end.

For instance darkmixing. For how long now is this feature available now? A year? Recently i used it for the first time and was SO dissapointed. It took me 2 (!) days to mix 1000 coins. Unbelievable! Who do expect to use that stuff when everything takes so long? I know its a solvable issue. But ffs its been a year now! Same goes for masternode blinding etc.

You got to finish things first before moving ahead and open new projects.

Justmy2satoshis.

That's a fair observation. DarkSend is production-ready and working, but liquidity remains a problem. I think Evolution is going to make privacy issues much easier. It appears to support Dash 'bills', where 0.1 1, 10, 100 DASH denominations are passed around via stealth addresses. Once you've broken up the Dash units into these denominations, re-mixing should not be needed. 

[toknormal]

LOL  

I think you've got some gum stuck in your hair there  

[Riseman]

They are different and do not compete technologically, but they sure do as an investment and a "speculative commodity".