[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Samoshi]

I like it!

PrivaSend and InstaSend

[eduffield]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

[110110101]

Sentinels, reminds me of the Matrix
Looks fascinating Evan, can't wait to see what is to come!

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

[Bridgewater]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

This is a pretty erroneous statement too for what it's worth.

I think it is important that people are well informed so that they can make good choices for themselves. Cocaine does do damage to the nose. I do not know how it would cause cancer that might indeed be erronous. However more serously cocaine can cause heart attacks in otherwise healthy people, especially with repeated use.

I do not think drugs should be illegal, though it is better if people understand the consequences of abusing certain substances. I think a world where people choose safer and better drugs, would be a better world. After all almost everyone uses drugs, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, caffeine or even pharmaceuticals, pick your vice.

I agree with legalizing drugs, people will do what they do.  I can't quit sugar, not funny either, I'm totally addicted to sweets and they will undoubtedly kill me.  All enforcement does is cause violence, and that money could be used to treat people instead.  I meant smoking causes cancer.  My dad died at the age of 50, from hardened arteries and strokes because he was a big time smoker (hell, he'd g0 broke with the cost of cigs today) I struggle with my own demons (sugar and weight) so I don't want to sound like I'm on my high horse.  Just wanted to pass on to you youngens the wisdom of moderation, if possible, one I'm still struggling with myself.  Sorry again for my mommy complex

I do agree with you. Moderation is a good message to pass on. Stay away from the unhealthy drugs, and everything can be abused, find balance in life. This is coming from someone who smokes cannabis, I can say that because I am living in the Netherlands at the moment at least, where it has been decriminalized. To be considered a criminal for smoking cannabis is ridiculous, it is not that different to drinking alcohol. Take a lesson from history, prohibition does more harm then good.

At least with cryptocurrencies like Dash no one will be able to prohibit the movement of capital for the purpose of free trade. The effects of a population moving away from Fiat currency towards decentralized cryptocurrencies, is more then profound to say the least. Effecting many areas of life including I am sure the movement of narcotics. For someone with anarcho libertarian leanings it feels like we are doing a great amount of good in the world by facilitating freedom.

The US has it completely backwards, unfortunately. 

Drugs which are temporarily incapacitating (which are not very threatening to others) are illegal.

However, drugs that pose a much bigger threat to others are not only legal, but encouraged.

Permanently mind-altering drugs that allow people to appear "functional" in society while harboring dormant psychotic intentions that could manifest any time without remorse or analytical awareness--ssristories.org--are often forcefully administered, and many are coerced or tricked into taking them.

Nice segue into on-topic Dash discussion, BTW. 

[spatula]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

Can someone help me understand how this could be used? Perhaps some examples?

[Solarminer]

However, drugs that pose a much bigger threat to others are not only legal, but encouraged.

Permanently mind-altering drugs that allow people to appear "functional" in society while harboring dormant psychotic intentions that could manifest any time without remorse or analytical awareness--ssristories.org--are often forcefully administered, and many are coerced or tricked into taking them.

Isn't it interesting that the disease doctors are treating is always an SSRI(depression), Statin(blood pressure), Claritin(Allergies), Corticosteroid(Asthma), or xyz deficiency, but in reality diet, exercise, lifestyle changes are more effective but never suggested.

I still haven't found the cure for masternode addiction.  Main symptoms are a constant desire to hoard Dash and put into masternodes along with mood swings of grumpyness when the Dash price falls and euphoria when the Dash price rises.

[Bridgewater]

However, drugs that pose a much bigger threat to others are not only legal, but encouraged.

Permanently mind-altering drugs that allow people to appear "functional" in society while harboring dormant psychotic intentions that could manifest any time without remorse or analytical awareness--ssristories.org--are often forcefully administered, and many are coerced or tricked into taking them.

Isn't it interesting that the disease doctors are treating is always an SSRI(depression), Statin(blood pressure), Claritin(Allergies), Corticosteroid(Asthma), or xyz deficiency, but in reality diet, exercise, lifestyle changes are more effective but never suggested.

Yeah, I agree.  People are too easily convinced that they don't have control over or responsibility for their own well-being.  I don't think the conspiracy theorists are far from the truth with their claims of big pharma being in bed with big gov to enrich themselves through perpetual manipulation of the public.

I still haven't found the cure for masternode addiction.  Main symptoms are a constant desire to hoard Dash and put into masternodes along with mood swings of grumpyness when the Dash price falls and euphoria when the Dash price rises.

Hey I can relate to those symptoms! 

[TanteStefana2]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

Translation anyone?

[AlexGR]

"blockchain-contract"

[TanteStefana2]

"blockchain-contract"

Muchas Gracias

Yah, I can see building an exchange on top of something like that - or a market place.  Can this be accessed via the DAPI?

[tungfa]

Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Transactions in Dash (But Were Afraid to Ask) | ForkLog

http://forklog.net/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-transactions-in-dash-but-were-afraid-to-ask/

 

[Icebucket]

Look at this healthy price appreciation 




The MNs make Dash pump and dump proof. So the fundamentals are the thing driving the Dash market instead of rampid speculation and manipulation. 
Extend that green line to see the future 

[Icebucket]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

LoL care to explain what this is to us mere mortals 

[Solarminer]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

LoL care to explain what this is to us mere mortals  

Let me try to get a stab at why this is cool.
#1 This is a contract  ... this is where most coins would start jumping up and down spewing Ether and Gas and sending out press releases....Evan says not good enough
#2 This is a contract tied to an identity(user)
#3 Since an identity is verified by name/address/city/state it opens the door for a loan against that identity.

Now we are closer to what Toknormal is pushing for, flowscripts, like what is described in the "proof of labor" proposal.  Basically, this allows a future contract tied to an identity.  Or a way to start production with funds now payable in labor in the future.  (I barely grasp this myself, but it is the start of something very big.)

See how it is cool now?

[eduffield]

First sentinel command. My brain is exploding from what this thing is capable of .

12:08:38 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --create="user" --name="blockchain-contract-evan-2016" --revision=1 --subclass="employee" --dash_monthly=233.32 --first_name="evan" --last_name="duffield" --address1="123 w. main ave" --address2="#123" --city="Phoenix" --state="Arizona" --country="US"

12:25:04 {master} ~/Desktop/projects/sentinel$ ./sentinel-cli --events_process=1
Processing queued events
('17', '7', '1461350402', None, None)
loaded event successfully
loaded govobj successfully
prepared
 --cmd :  
        mngovernance prepare  1 1461352124 blockchain-contract-evan-2016 5b227b226c6173745f6e616d65223a20226475666669656c64222c202263697479223a202250686 f656e6978222c202266697273745f6e616d65223a20226576616e222c202276657273696f6e223a 20312c2022646173685f6d6f6e74686c79223a20223233332e3332222c2022636f756e747279223 a20225553222c20226164647265737331223a202231323320772e206d61696e20617665222c2022 6164647265737332223a202223313233222c20227374617465223a20224172697a6f6e61227d225 d;

LoL care to explain what this is to us mere mortals  

Let me try to get a stab at why this is cool.
#1 This is a contract  ... this is where most coins would start jumping up and down spewing Ether and Gas and sending out press releases....Evan says not good enough
#2 This is a contract tied to an identity(user)
#3 Since an identity is verified by name/address/city/state it opens the door for a loan against that identity.

Now we are closer to what Toknormal is pushing for, flowscripts, like what is described in the "proof of labor" proposal.  Basically, this allows a future contract tied to an identity.  Or a way to start production with funds now payable in labor in the future.  (I barely grasp this myself, but it is the start of something very big.)

See how it is cool now?

anyone out there from kickstarter?  

anyone out there want to start a DASH powered kickstarter?

What I actually figured out how to do is create a decentralized relational database application using crypto, that's what sentinel is. So then we can create new types and setup relationships between them. But we'll be able to do that on the python side and on the fly.

Just to show you how insanely powerful this system is, I'll document how to setup 12.1 under the new system. First we'll create a governance object type of User(firstname, lastname, address1, address2, city, state, country), then we'll create subclasses of Employee and Manager.

So then to get network employment under this model we'll require Employees be managed by a primary and secondary manager. Employees will pick their primary and secondary managers, then negotiate a salary. Once each of them agree, they will be employed by the network.

Next there are no generic funding proposals or contracts anymore, there's only expense reports. These are reimbursed if the managers agree. So if I fly to a conference I would submit separate expense reports for each of the items (plane ticket, car rental, etc). What's really nice about this is it also solves the tax issues with working for the network. We'll be able to query the network and print out an exact report of what happened to file. In most countries we shouldn't be paying taxes when we're being reimbursed for a company expense.

This system can also assign reputation to users, companies, groups. We can start building the framework for evolution. The plan is I would have a record like "user-eduffield" that's also an employee and in the record there's a url to my personal server. We'll have Amazon AMIs and other images of a full-node based private server, these will allow you login and see your balance in Dash and USD. Then we can use robots to move money between USD (cryptocapital) and Dash (polo). After the transactions happen, the money is removed from the exchanges and stored locally.

Then we'll add user accounts to this system, so I could add my wife for example and then restrict her spending or something   .

This is like "Phase I" of our development (~6-10 months from having this thing below) , something like a generic decentralized bank-like entity. We want everyone to be able to take part of masternode shares programs and earn interest. I calculate the network should be able to pay in excess of 5% interest rate. It's far better than investing in the stock market at this point.



Phase II is where we'll have multiple user GUIs, masternode GUIs, business GUIs, etc. We want everything to be highly accessible and easy to use. The whole reason all of this will work well is because we'll be able to just query the database locally and get whatever data we want. How many active users are there? How many businesses? How much is being spent on holiday X?

[qwizzie]

This all makes me wish i could fastforward a few years just to see how it all pans out. Its great to see the potential of this new system,
where the groundwork which makes it all possible is layed as we speak. 
 

[mjsrs]

my feelings about that
https://youtu.be/33m3TNet-sQ?t=17

[eduffield]

This all makes me wish i could fastforward a few years just to see how it all pans out. Its great to see the potential of this new system,
where the groundwork which makes it all possible is layed as we speak.  
 

https://github.com/evan82/sentinel/blob/master/docs/usage.md - New system usage

This is how I see it working, it's a bid/ask system for employment, built on a cryptographic currency. Pretty cool. This system also fleshes out the competitive part of employment into it's real world representation, employees ask and employers bid. It'll be neat to have a record of that and be able to "ask" for a raise. It's kind of like threatening to leave... if you go long enough, you won't be paid   

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Good morning all. The progress thread is going well. Just passed 10,000 views. Don't be a stranger!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433982.msg14642150#msg14642150

Tao