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Otoh
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September 12, 2016, 12:16:08 PM |
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Obviously I can but agree with you, but if bitcoin gets confidential transactions soft forked this year, then the market will decide which system is better or which it is happy to use. The issue for Dash and xmr, etc, is the fist mover advantage of Bitcoin. A better product doesn't always win first prize.
First mover advantage doesn't always win. Sometimes it's the "fast follower" aka second mover. The initial first-mover advantage will last for a period of time, only to be replaced by the "Fast Follower". Ford Motor Company was the first mass produced manufacturer of cars. Within a short time, General Motors was outselling them by offering something Ford would not. By following a strategy of innovation, combined with focusing on getting the word out, DASH has an excellent chance of succeeding in the Digital Cash realm. -------------------------------- "First-movers are not always able to benefit from being first. Whereas firms who are the first to enter the market with a new product can gain substantial market share due to lack of competition, sometimes their efforts fail. Second-mover advantage occurs when a firm following the lead of the first-mover is actually able to capture greater market share, despite having entered late.
First-mover firms often face high research and development costs, and the marketing costs necessary to educate the public about a new type of product. A second-mover firm can learn from the experiences of the first mover firm, and may not face such high research and development costs, if it is able create its own version of a product using existing technology. A second-mover firm also does not face the marketing task of having to educate the public about the new project because the first-mover has already done so. As a result, the second-mover can use its resources to focus on making a superior product or out-marketing the first-mover." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage#Second-mover_advantageAn historic word to the wise from back in January
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Rakete4
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September 12, 2016, 02:25:48 PM |
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Hello,
I am supporter of DASH since it was DARK Coin in the past.
So you missed the instamine. It was called Xcoin back then.
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tungfa
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September 12, 2016, 02:30:42 PM |
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HinnomTX
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September 12, 2016, 03:08:39 PM |
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Hello,
I am supporter of DASH since it was DARK Coin in the past.
So you missed the instamine. It was called Xcoin back then. I missed it too, and only by a few weeks. But I don't give a shit about the instamine because I know a working DAO when I see one. Dash is more like a decentralized autonomous bank, but not everyone is comfortable with that terminology yet. Better get ready though, because it's already here, and it's the first mover.
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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Rakete4
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September 12, 2016, 04:28:41 PM |
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A thread with 6145 pages is not a working DAO. It's a crowd of people who have fallen for the marketing of scammers.
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BrainShutdown
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September 12, 2016, 04:41:42 PM |
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A thread with 6145 pages is not a working DAO. It's a crowd of people who have fallen for the marketing of scammers.
Why so sad?
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September 12, 2016, 05:06:08 PM |
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A thread with 6145 pages is not a working DAO. It's a crowd of people who have fallen for the marketing of scammers.
Another one on ignore, is there a limit of people I can have on ignore?
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ddink7
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September 12, 2016, 05:11:51 PM |
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I've never understood why the trolls insist that DASH is a scam. scam skam/ nouninformal noun: scam; plural noun: scams
1. a dishonest scheme; a fraud. "an insurance scam" synonyms: fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More pharming; informalcon, hustle, flimflam, bunco, grift, gyp, shakedown "the scam involved a series of bogus investment deals"
verb verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1. swindle. "a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings" synonyms: swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More informalrip off, con, fleece, shaft, hose, sting, bilk, diddle, rook, gyp, finagle, bamboozle, flimflam, put one over on, pull a fast one on, sucker, stiff, shake down, hornswoggle "he was trying to scam residents with phony insurance policies"
Origin 1960s: of unknown origin.
Dash had an unexpectedly high emission rate during the first 24-48 hours, which was subsequently fixed. Those who were lucky enough to mine Dash during those couple of days ended up getting quite a lot of it. The amount of Dash that they own, however, in no way diminishes the value of the Dash I purchased a few months later. Over the last two years, after a brief "spike," the price of Dash settled around $2-$3. Now it's settled around $11-$12. How is a 500-600% ROI in two years a scam? I've just always been baffled by that. Frankly, if anybody had the foresight or luck to check this forum in January 2014 and mine Dash instead of one of the other THOUSAND brand new cryptos that had just been launched, then more power to them. My Dash is worth more today than it was when I bought it, so if you call that a scam, then we need a whole lot more scams in this world!
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September 12, 2016, 05:12:58 PM |
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A thread with 6145 pages is not a working DAO. It's a crowd of people who have fallen for the marketing of scammers.
Another one on ignore, is there a limit of people I can have on ignore? If so, it's a really big number. I currently have the following on ignore: skull88 smooth iCEBREAKER klee bittick smoothie MegaHustlr DubFX humanitee mah87 BitGoing Slingshot drawingthesun bernard75 mmitech Netnox empoweoqwj Wolf Rainer dnaleor reader31 binaryFate ymer metraX Lauda ThomasX gross faraway r3wt superresistant oneway Pitstop Herp phzi bobmarley650 huadaonan TKeenan bitcoinhype start the art dreamspark placebo wpalczynski oldmarsh lalakies23 dotnetmin etparle arielbit benthach chesthing fr4nkthetank hasar Bobsurplus erok Slipknot79 Saigonsmokes nesco1805 reda miramare Sapereaude stuhlman KoinMaster Bitye West Coolstoryteller crimi Emule LeoC g4q34g4qg47ww dbt1033 Kalizar heskey btell KJO youngmike AdamWhite Mwalshe89 PhattyBanks bigc1984 nzminer s1gs3gv DRobert sangoku Toninho installer newb4now Hollowman338 nextgencoin herecoming piyany valentino007 josegger Dusty11 mikemikemike shojayxt DavidR minerjav flipme Terzo darkota buy4crypto TTM rentahash scam_exposer Liquid71 Sniggly McHammer slapper Rakete4 ewqewwee smoothdoger DutchTrades iphone66 solo20 GiftEncounter shfc Forceflow Jacques de Molay Febo kewlya stilgars lawgicc dirts Denada129 ignitiondefect therightmintality ultradar mrkavasaki RW-Stott YourMother PoS pratico eeeee maese123 Elmer Fud BTCgraphics mitchr4 CryptoChronic StealthCoin1 LucyLovesCrypto O_Omaha volyova Marica420 Morecoin Freeman Terzo2 TheMightyKnight kazuki49 Sumo choZin iqlimasyadiqa X1235 wow!NotAgain P3RS3US AdamWìte Department of qvan TheDasher Hyperjacked Dashcoin99 Swandeli Blazin8888 dashgrimreaper Johnny Bravo first troll AndJusticeForSome b1007 sammycrypto Cryptogenius MasterscamBlinding Gillette 8XMR boolberry EvanTheInstaminer. kokonit DrkLvr_ MyMother emitkirby dranster TechorMarketing DaveJones FeelTheBern LiskKing
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September 12, 2016, 05:31:00 PM Last edit: September 12, 2016, 05:46:10 PM by qwizzie |
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I've never understood why the trolls insist that DASH is a scam. scam skam/ nouninformal noun: scam; plural noun: scams
1. a dishonest scheme; a fraud. "an insurance scam" synonyms: fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More pharming; informalcon, hustle, flimflam, bunco, grift, gyp, shakedown "the scam involved a series of bogus investment deals"
verb verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1. swindle. "a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings" synonyms: swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More informalrip off, con, fleece, shaft, hose, sting, bilk, diddle, rook, gyp, finagle, bamboozle, flimflam, put one over on, pull a fast one on, sucker, stiff, shake down, hornswoggle "he was trying to scam residents with phony insurance policies"
Origin 1960s: of unknown origin.
Dash had an unexpectedly high emission rate during the first 24-48 hours, which was subsequently fixed. Those who were lucky enough to mine Dash during those couple of days ended up getting quite a lot of it. The amount of Dash that they own, however, in no way diminishes the value of the Dash I purchased a few months later. Over the last two years, after a brief "spike," the price of Dash settled around $2-$3. Now it's settled around $11-$12. How is a 500-600% ROI in two years a scam? I've just always been baffled by that. Frankly, if anybody had the foresight or luck to check this forum in January 2014 and mine Dash instead of one of the other THOUSAND brand new cryptos that had just been launched, then more power to them. My Dash is worth more today than it was when I bought it, so if you call that a scam, then we need a whole lot more scams in this world! Yeah, i dont understand that myself. I bought my first Darkcoins at the very very top (0.025 & 0.026 range in May 2014), which are currently still not in the clear (i still have them) but buying the dips later on more then made up for those early high range buys. People should take responsebility for their own actions, if they sold at a lost then they should live with that decision. It is not like they are/were unaware how volatile cryptocurrencies can be, as pretty much every central bank issued warnings about it.
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Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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September 12, 2016, 05:58:00 PM Last edit: September 12, 2016, 06:15:36 PM by qwizzie |
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Underground to Base Command : The walls are moving! i repeat, The walls are moving ! edit : i'm starting to like this whole "a wee bit" expression
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Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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ddink7
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September 12, 2016, 06:56:50 PM |
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bandidorl
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September 12, 2016, 07:19:29 PM |
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A thread with 6145 pages is not a working DAO. It's a crowd of people who have fallen for the marketing of scammers.
Another one on ignore, is there a limit of people I can have on ignore? Hello bandidorl - long time no talk/see Good to see your still around :-D Yeah, mostly lurking here and in DASH.org but holding my dash forever
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September 12, 2016, 07:30:58 PM |
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I was intrigued that there has been a thread about this story in the Press section for over a day and the M-community didn't touch it. Neither the "normals" nor the trolls - just... crickets: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614010.0Dash users not affected, I assume. Could it happen here? Anything we should learn from their misfortune?
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September 12, 2016, 08:58:33 PM |
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I was intrigued that there has been a thread about this story in the Press section for over a day and the M-community didn't touch it. Neither the "normals" nor the trolls - just... crickets: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614010.0Dash users not affected, I assume. Could it happen here? Anything we should learn from their misfortune? Of course it could happen to us. It could happen to any coin. In theory, but with Dash ASICs and split block rewards between miners and MNs, I wouldn't think it'd be worth it.
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September 12, 2016, 10:24:08 PM |
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I remember that Darkcoin had a few incidents back in the day where people were running cpu-miners and later on gpu miners on the victims machines. For instance see this reddit post about a cpu miner back in 2014: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/28klfl/disguised_mining_process_using_up_99_cpu_on/I made a really quick google search for malicious gpu mining on gaming rigs, but I did not find what I was looking for. Maybe others remember this. People were installing some popular game, but in the background, they were mining darkcoin at the same time on their beefy gaming rigs. So yes, all coins have this "misfortune", but anyone can install a piece of software and start mining on a pool, it's not that hard really. Today it might not happen with Dash due to asics and high difficulties, but still sometimes people come up with the clever idea of cpu-mining bitcoin so you never know....
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September 12, 2016, 10:31:38 PM |
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I remember that Darkcoin had a few incidents back in the day where people were running cpu-miners and later on gpu miners on the victims machines. For instance see this reddit post about a cpu miner back in 2014: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/28klfl/disguised_mining_process_using_up_99_cpu_on/I made a really quick google search for malicious gpu mining on gaming rigs, but I did not find what I was looking for. Maybe others remember this. People were installing some popular game, but in the background, they were mining darkcoin at the same time on their beefy gaming rigs. So yes, all coins have this "misfortune", but anyone can install a piece of software and start mining on a pool, it's not that hard really. Today it might not happen with Dash due to asics and high difficulties, but still sometimes people come up with the clever idea of cpu-mining bitcoin so you never know.... I think it was one of the GTA games? I'm not sure if that was ever proven or just a rumor. Can't remember.
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September 12, 2016, 10:41:31 PM |
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I remember that Darkcoin had a few incidents back in the day where people were running cpu-miners and later on gpu miners on the victims machines. For instance see this reddit post about a cpu miner back in 2014: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/28klfl/disguised_mining_process_using_up_99_cpu_on/I made a really quick google search for malicious gpu mining on gaming rigs, but I did not find what I was looking for. Maybe others remember this. People were installing some popular game, but in the background, they were mining darkcoin at the same time on their beefy gaming rigs. So yes, all coins have this "misfortune", but anyone can install a piece of software and start mining on a pool, it's not that hard really. Today it might not happen with Dash due to asics and high difficulties, but still sometimes people come up with the clever idea of cpu-mining bitcoin so you never know.... I think it was one of the GTA games? I'm not sure if that was ever proven or just a rumor. Can't remember. yes gta 5 nicely cracked with miner hidden
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Riseman
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September 12, 2016, 11:31:28 PM |
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Peculiar pattern. Probably doesn't mean anything.
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