[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[bigrcanada1]

Icebreak, I gotta give it to you. Now that all conversation has moved to slack, the official forums, reddit and the like, and this thread is nearly dead...you still show remarkable dedication in coming here and posting your FUD.

What is actually happening here is Icebreaker is in fact a large DASH whale investor. It's become more and more apparent that this is actually what is going on... The strategy between him and a few if his cohorts is to try to suppress DASH to buy in more... While staying silent when it suits them.

Once put in this context it becomes very obvious what his true position is. Bravo Icey for the dedication to your craft. Happy accumulating.  Oh... And yes wink wink you hate dash and would never invest in it.  

[MasterMined710]

“Satoshi” Craig Wright Is Back and He’s Gunning for Segwit


Self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto Craig Wright is back in the spotlight, voicing opposition for activating Segwit and promising a new mining pool to prevent its activation.

Segregated Witness, or Segwit, is an upgrade to the Bitcoin code that was created by Bitcoin Core during the more highly controversial moments of the recent scaling fight. Craig Wright, Australian entrepreneur who claims to be Bitcoin’s enigmatic founder Satoshi Nakamoto, during a recent appearance at the Future of Bitcoin conference called to Segwit to be stopped. He also announced his company nChain will launch a mining pool to this end, supposedly comprising 20% of the network’s mining hashpower. Combined with the last Emergent Consensus levels of over 40%, this could theoretically be enough to hard fork the network.

https://www.dashforcenews.com/satoshi-craig-wright-back-hes-gunning-segwit/

[iCEBREAKER]

Icebreak, I gotta give it to you. Now that all conversation has moved to slack, the official forums, reddit and the like, and this thread is nearly dead...you still show remarkable dedication in coming here and posting your FUD.

Since Amanda left, the entire Dash conversation is nearly dead.  You show remarkable dedication coming here and posting your GIANT SHITTY GENERIC CLIP ART SPAM.

Also, the entire 'Muh Shitcoin is Too Pure & Precious to Sully with Nasty Bitcointalk' narrative is well known as 100% proof-of-scam.

See this example from Dash's old partner-in-scamming, XC.

Cults generally have an easier time keeping their sheep indoctrinated when they are able to more fully control the flow of information they receive.

Both Dash and XC agreed to stop drawing attention to each other's scam and leave each other alone to scam in peace:

DRK and XC Communities,

The toxic back and forth between our two communities has reached a level with which neither of us are comfortable or impressed.  The competitive space for our coins lies in the results, and the results will speak for themselves as they are brought online.  Whatever mistakes or provocations were undertaken by either side are in the past, and we would like them to remain there.  We are all interested in one thing: the advancement of anonymous cryptocurrency.   Let go of the tribalism and start thinking of how you can positively contribute to that end.

Evan and Dan

could not help myself. Damn those logo's look seXC! Probs to georgem (would donate if he had a XCurrency adres)

 

Let's see how that worked out for the bagholding victims:

Oh dear God these guys again 

How's Jasinlee doing synechist?

Who's Jasinlee?

So thus project is scamming us out of our money?

The first litecoin asics that he scammed millions from.

With these goons fully backing his good name.

Then they dumped the premine after saying they'd be transparency with it.  A "closed source anon coin" (trust us guys) 

Then told all their investors who were upset about being dumped on with the promises of notification "uh guys we just meant you could see it on the blockchain".

Their lead dev was losing his house and likely needed the money.  Huge circlejerk around xcoin while the devs raped the investors. 

Then the blocknet ico.  Looks like they're gonna pump and dump.

Then after losing every last shred of credibility they deleted their threads in bitcoin talk because of "toxic community" and moved to slack to let their exit scam die quietly.

Proceed at your own risk.

Evan’s and Dash’s scam story
https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae

tl;dr "we're moving to Slack" is actually euphemistic coded language for "we're ready to exit-scam"

[DARKHOLDER]

Ripple to Enable 2-5 Second Japan-Thailand Bank Transfers, Gateways to Integrate Dash - Dash Force News

Ripple has launched nearly-instant remittance bank transfers between Japan and Thailand as the Dash network prepares to also leverage its technology.

The SBI Remit bank of Japan, in collaboration with the Siam Commercial Bank, launched a payment channel on the Ripple network to facilitate the transfer of remittances between the two countries. Japan retains a number of Thai immigrants seeking to send funds home to their families, and the new payment channel will drastically reduce the time and costs associated with these transfers. The establishment of this new Ripple payment rail, the first of its kind to leverage blockchain technology between the banks, will allow users to transfer funds from their account to the recipient’s account in under 5 seconds.

Dash network funded integration into two separate Ripple gateways

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/ripple-enable-2-5-second-japan-thailand-bank-transfers-gateways-integrate-dash/

These news are so good.   Even the worst trolls come out of their caves

[curious009]

Hi, i am one of the most dum user here...can someone shed some light on On-Chain Scaling and Off-chain scaling.

My understanding is that Dash is going towards On-Chain scaling, where as Bitcoin might go with Off-chain using lightning network... What are the advantages/disadvantages of these two methods in long term and short term...!!!!

Why did Evan choose On-Chain solution ?

Thanks...

[toknormal]

Hi, i am one of the most dum user here...can someone shed some light on On-Chain Scaling and Off-chain scaling.

Off chain scaling is where the transactions are handled by a proxy network and then aggregated into a single 'dump' into the blockchain. If you've ever used an exchange like Poloniex or Coinbase - that's an example of the approach that off-chain scaling would take.

When you're on the exchange you can trade away all day without making any blockchain transactions. Thousands of trades can occur until you end up with a final aggregate balance. Then at some point you notionally withdraw that balance into the blockchain. So the exchange has helped the bitcoin economy scale because it kept all that traffic off the blockchain and only aggregated it into one withdrawal.

Another example is the Lightning network in bitcoin. This plans to work like the exchange - where 'accounts' are kept of aggregate transaction balances between transacting parties and dumped into the blockchain at discrete intervals like the exchange deposit/withdrawal system. The only difference between the Lightning Network and the exchange is that Lightning will be decentralised and notionally trustless.

On-chain scaling on the other hand is about increasing the capacity of the core blockchain protocol and infrastructure so that the traffic doesn't have to be buffered by a secondary network. All interactions are made directly with the blockchain and cleared in realtime.

Why did Evan choose On-Chain solution ?

2 reasons:

1. It's what users want and expect. Cryptocurrency is based on a cash monetary archetype. Cash is a realtime settlement medium
2. Whatever approach you take, you need on-chain scaling anyway because the more off-chain networks you have generating economic activity, the more demand there will be at the clearing layer

Consider the lightning network for example. It doesn't actually scale the bitcoin at all. It just generates even more traffic for it to process by capturing new markets such as movie watching charged by the second and so on. So you still need to somehow scale the core capacity of the blockchain to process throughput.

[TanteStefana2]

Hey guys, only 1 more day to vote for this month's proposals.  One of our long time excellent community members, agnewpickens , a publisher, proposed to do a huge ad in his new publication, Burnt Hamster Minestrone.

I really think this one deserves your second look.  It's quite a fun little rag and stylish too, for the young hip generation. It'd be really cool to be an ad in what could potentially be a hot new magazine's first edition!  https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-burnt-hamster-minestrone.15394/#post-130240

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

CATV | Flying High: A Dash Aerosports Update



https://youtu.be/cyiQbP4i4QU

#DashNation #CashAlternative

[TanteStefana2]

Hi, i am one of the most dum user here...can someone shed some light on On-Chain Scaling and Off-chain scaling.

Off chain scaling is where the transactions are handled by a proxy network and then aggregated into a single 'dump' into the blockchain. If you've ever used an exchange like Poloniex or Coinbase - that's an example of the approach that off-chain scaling would take.

When you're on the exchange you can trade away all day without making any blockchain transactions. Thousands of trades can occur until you end up with a final aggregate balance. Then at some point you notionally withdraw that balance into the blockchain. So the exchange has helped the bitcoin economy scale because it kept all that traffic off the blockchain and only aggregated it into one withdrawal.

Another example is the Lightning network in bitcoin. This plans to work like the exchange - where 'accounts' are kept of aggregate transaction balances between transacting parties and dumped into the blockchain at discrete intervals like the exchange deposit/withdrawal system. The only difference between the Lightning Network and the exchange is that Lightning will be decentralised and notionally trustless.

On-chain scaling on the other hand is about increasing the capacity of the core blockchain protocol and infrastructure so that the traffic doesn't have to be buffered by a secondary network. All interactions are made directly with the blockchain and cleared in realtime.

Why did Evan choose On-Chain solution ?

2 reasons:

1. It's what users want and expect. Cryptocurrency is based on a cash monetary archetype. Cash is a realtime settlement medium
2. Whatever approach you take, you need on-chain scaling anyway because the more off-chain networks you have generating economic activity, the more demand there will be at the clearing layer

Consider the lightning network for example. It doesn't actually scale the bitcoin at all. It just generates even more traffic for it to process by capturing new markets such as movie watching charged by the second and so on. So you still need to somehow scale the core capacity of the blockchain to process throughput.

Also, off chain scaling solutions are centralized.  They are not run by a trustless network.  They are to be run by TRUSTED entities.  This destroys the whole purpose of crypto currencies.  However it's big fat worm bait to the existing banking industry, who are obvious choices to run them.

[curious009]

Hi, i am one of the most dum user here...can someone shed some light on On-Chain Scaling and Off-chain scaling.

Off chain scaling is where the transactions are handled by a proxy network and then aggregated into a single 'dump' into the blockchain. If you've ever used an exchange like Poloniex or Coinbase - that's an example of the approach that off-chain scaling would take.

When you're on the exchange you can trade away all day without making any blockchain transactions. Thousands of trades can occur until you end up with a final aggregate balance. Then at some point you notionally withdraw that balance into the blockchain. So the exchange has helped the bitcoin economy scale because it kept all that traffic off the blockchain and only aggregated it into one withdrawal.

Another example is the Lightning network in bitcoin. This plans to work like the exchange - where 'accounts' are kept of aggregate transaction balances between transacting parties and dumped into the blockchain at discrete intervals like the exchange deposit/withdrawal system. The only difference between the Lightning Network and the exchange is that Lightning will be decentralised and notionally trustless.

On-chain scaling on the other hand is about increasing the capacity of the core blockchain protocol and infrastructure so that the traffic doesn't have to be buffered by a secondary network. All interactions are made directly with the blockchain and cleared in realtime.

Why did Evan choose On-Chain solution ?

2 reasons:

1. It's what users want and expect. Cryptocurrency is based on a cash monetary archetype. Cash is a realtime settlement medium
2. Whatever approach you take, you need on-chain scaling anyway because the more off-chain networks you have generating economic activity, the more demand there will be at the clearing layer

Consider the lightning network for example. It doesn't actually scale the bitcoin at all. It just generates even more traffic for it to process by capturing new markets such as movie watching charged by the second and so on. So you still need to somehow scale the core capacity of the blockchain to process throughput.

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply... sure this helps..
Does this mean that lightning network will really just accumulate transactions at the peak-time and dump them on blockchain during off peak hours (like on weekends), which might not be really scaling, but just adjusting and spreading transactions evenly over a longer time period So it is really a short term solution which works only until off peak times also get fully loaded (Like long weekend shopping !!!) ?? Is my understanding correct ? Then how does it prevent double spend ? if things are kept off the blockchain for sometime period not everyone will know if that money is already spent.

Does Dash's "instant send" does something similar ? I tried Dash instant sent for sending a small amount, but it also prevented me from spending rest of my balance, may be until previous transaction got confirmed on blockchain !!! then how will someone use wallet more than once even if he have extra money, until previous transaction synchronized with blockchain ? Sure I am missing something here

Why NEM and few others can scale more even today ? NEM seem to have some "new more efficient code".. but why is that better than Dash's code ?
 
Thanks in advance..
 

[TanteStefana2]

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply... sure this helps..
Does this mean that lightning network will really just accumulate transactions at the peak-time and dump them on blockchain during off peak hours (like on weekends), which might not be really scaling, but just adjusting and spreading transactions evenly over a longer time period So it is really a short term solution which works only until off peak times also get fully loaded (Like long weekend shopping !!!) ?? Is my understanding correct ? Then how does it prevent double spend ? if things are kept off the blockchain for sometime period not everyone will know if that money is already spent.

No, you stay at your "bank" or lightening network until you want to exit.  At that point, you pay the fees to re-enter Bitcoin.  All the rest won't be on any block chain but your "bank" will probably trade off chain, just like they do with fiat, amongst themselves.  Maybe they will do so through the bitcoin blockchain in batches.  But since that is expensive, I would wager they'll just trade like they do today, with escrow, etc... just like today, for the majority of transactions and only use the Bitcoin blockchain when time is of the essence.

Does Dash's "instant send" does something similar ? I tried Dash instant sent for sending a small amount, but it also prevented me from spending rest of my balance, may be until previous transaction got confirmed on blockchain !!! then how will someone use wallet more than once even if he have extra money, until previous transaction synchronized with blockchain ? Sure I am missing something here

I'm not sure what happened to your instant send transaction, but it should arrive instantly confirmed in the receiving address and spendable in 1 confirmation, unless I remember wrongly and it's instantly spendable?  It should have nothing to do with the rest of your unspent balance.

But instant send does nothing like LN.  The network selects a quorum of MNs (currently 10 MNs are randomly chosen) who review and lock the transaction.  The transaction then can not be double spent, it is locked, there is no way to reverse it.  It can take however long to get this transaction actually on the blockchain (assuming one day we have full blocks, currently it is rarely confirmed later than the next block) but it still can not be reversed or double-spent.

This is how instant send works, basically.  it gives you the equivalent of 5 confirmations instantly, with the 6th an actual confirmation/entry.  This is only done due to extreme caution.  There has been no known issue with IS and the one block confirmation will likely be removed in the future.

Why NEM and few others can scale more even today ? NEM seem to have some "new more efficient code".. but why is that better than Dash's code ?
 
Thanks in advance..

[/quote]

Sorry, I know nothing of NEM

But I will say this.  Bitcoin's blockchain has been proven as is.  It preserves all the most important information so you can follow the "coins" from creation to it's current "splatter" This makes it a fully auditable blockchain.  Dash intends to keep it.  The plan for scaling is the plan Satoshi Nakamoto initially intended, which is to build the network's power.  The thing is, Bitcoin never incentivised their network.  It's a voluntary network.  Subsequently, when the power required to run a node is more than a hobbyist can afford, they give up on altruism.  

Dash pays collateralized nodes to provide minimal specifications.  If MNs are required to run large data centers, then that's what they will have to do or they will not be paid.  If we grow so big, you can be assured it will still be profitable.

And if any GOOD scaling solutions are discovered, you can be assured Dash will implement them.

[IMZ]

Hi, i am one of the most dum user here...can someone shed some light on On-Chain Scaling and Off-chain scaling.

Off chain scaling is where the transactions are handled by a proxy network and then aggregated into a single 'dump' into the blockchain. If you've ever used an exchange like Poloniex or Coinbase - that's an example of the approach that off-chain scaling would take.

When you're on the exchange you can trade away all day without making any blockchain transactions. Thousands of trades can occur until you end up with a final aggregate balance. Then at some point you notionally withdraw that balance into the blockchain. So the exchange has helped the bitcoin economy scale because it kept all that traffic off the blockchain and only aggregated it into one withdrawal.

Another example is the Lightning network in bitcoin. This plans to work like the exchange - where 'accounts' are kept of aggregate transaction balances between transacting parties and dumped into the blockchain at discrete intervals like the exchange deposit/withdrawal system. The only difference between the Lightning Network and the exchange is that Lightning will be decentralised and notionally trustless.

On-chain scaling on the other hand is about increasing the capacity of the core blockchain protocol and infrastructure so that the traffic doesn't have to be buffered by a secondary network. All interactions are made directly with the blockchain and cleared in realtime.

Why did Evan choose On-Chain solution ?

Ta for this.

2 reasons:

1. It's what users want and expect. Cryptocurrency is based on a cash monetary archetype. Cash is a realtime settlement medium
2. Whatever approach you take, you need on-chain scaling anyway because the more off-chain networks you have generating economic activity, the more demand there will be at the clearing layer

Consider the lightning network for example. It doesn't actually scale the bitcoin at all. It just generates even more traffic for it to process by capturing new markets such as movie watching charged by the second and so on. So you still need to somehow scale the core capacity of the blockchain to process throughput.

[hashmoon]

craig wright  said  our (bitcoin) frontend wallet still suck after 8 years ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcOnvOVquo&t=10668s

[NibiruHybrid]

Dash WordPress WooCommerce Plugin Proposal Update - Dash Force News

It goes without saying that ecommerce is a huge segment of the marketplace. For Dash to truly become Digital Cash it needs to have a full suite of tools to be easily integrated into online stores and shopping carts.  WordPress is one of the most popular content management systems (CMS) currently in use (including this website) so having a method to use Dash on WordPress is important.  Last year a treasury proposal was funded to fill this need.

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-wordpress-woocommerce-plugin-proposal-update/

Dash Force News 3 Amigos Podcast Episode 6 - Dash Force News

The Dash Force News Three Amigos podcast enters its sixth installment as we three Dash Force partners chat about whats new in Dash and cryptocurrency, and field questions from the audience.

We chat about Craig Wright coming back to make a splash with Bitcoin, Dash Evolution’s ambitious upgrade and its ins and outs, governance questions, and more. We also talk internal happenings including cross-network communication and how to improve each sub-DAO organization’s communication with the community at large.

Thanks for everyone who dropped in to say hi or leave a question. We’ll be doing this again at 3pm EST, so make sure you’re watching!

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-force-news-3-amigos-podcast-episode-6/

[curious009]

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply... sure this helps..
Does this mean that lightning network will really just accumulate transactions at the peak-time and dump them on blockchain during off peak hours (like on weekends), which might not be really scaling, but just adjusting and spreading transactions evenly over a longer time period So it is really a short term solution which works only until off peak times also get fully loaded (Like long weekend shopping !!!) ?? Is my understanding correct ? Then how does it prevent double spend ? if things are kept off the blockchain for sometime period not everyone will know if that money is already spent.

No, you stay at your "bank" or lightening network until you want to exit.  At that point, you pay the fees to re-enter Bitcoin.  All the rest won't be on any block chain but your "bank" will probably trade off chain, just like they do with fiat, amongst themselves.  Maybe they will do so through the bitcoin blockchain in batches.  But since that is expensive, I would wager they'll just trade like they do today, with escrow, etc... just like today, for the majority of transactions and only use the Bitcoin blockchain when time is of the essence.

Does Dash's "instant send" does something similar ? I tried Dash instant sent for sending a small amount, but it also prevented me from spending rest of my balance, may be until previous transaction got confirmed on blockchain !!! then how will someone use wallet more than once even if he have extra money, until previous transaction synchronized with blockchain ? Sure I am missing something here

I'm not sure what happened to your instant send transaction, but it should arrive instantly confirmed in the receiving address and spendable in 1 confirmation, unless I remember wrongly and it's instantly spendable?  It should have nothing to do with the rest of your unspent balance.

But instant send does nothing like LN.  The network selects a quorum of MNs (currently 10 MNs are randomly chosen) who review and lock the transaction.  The transaction then can not be double spent, it is locked, there is no way to reverse it.  It can take however long to get this transaction actually on the blockchain (assuming one day we have full blocks, currently it is rarely confirmed later than the next block) but it still can not be reversed or double-spent.

This is how instant send works, basically.  it gives you the equivalent of 5 confirmations instantly, with the 6th an actual confirmation/entry.  This is only done due to extreme caution.  There has been no known issue with IS and the one block confirmation will likely be removed in the future.

Why NEM and few others can scale more even today ? NEM seem to have some "new more efficient code".. but why is that better than Dash's code ?
 
Thanks in advance..

Sorry, I know nothing of NEM

But I will say this.  Bitcoin's blockchain has been proven as is.  It preserves all the most important information so you can follow the "coins" from creation to it's current "splatter" This makes it a fully auditable blockchain.  Dash intends to keep it.  The plan for scaling is the plan Satoshi Nakamoto initially intended, which is to build the network's power.  The thing is, Bitcoin never incentivised their network.  It's a voluntary network.  Subsequently, when the power required to run a node is more than a hobbyist can afford, they give up on altruism.  

Dash pays collateralized nodes to provide minimal specifications.  If MNs are required to run large data centers, then that's what they will have to do or they will not be paid.  If we grow so big, you can be assured it will still be profitable.

And if any GOOD scaling solutions are discovered, you can be assured Dash will implement them.
[/quote]

Thats great... thanks a lot...

[alevlaslo]

Dash is the strongest coin, it falls less than others

[NibiruHybrid]

The Scaling Debate Is Over, Not Just for Bitcoin - Dash Force News

“Scaling” is one of those blockchain world buzzwords that sounds both cool and urgent (Don’t believe me? Next time you want to ditch a family function, tell them you can’t go because you’re at a blockchain scaling conference all weekend. Trust me, it’ll work). But more importantly, it’s actually, legitimately one of the most important issues facing distributed ledger technology: how can we make this stuff work just as great when everyone’s trying to use it. This scaling debate has raged for years now, but it has finally drawn to a close. Why? Because it’s time to start actually trying the stuff we’re talking about.

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/scaling-debate-not-just-bitcoin/

[qwizzie]

When i try to visit the dashforcenews site (https://www.dashforcenews.com/scaling-debate-not-just-bitcoin/)
it shows the following :



FYI

[tungfa]

When i try to visit the dashforcenews site (https://www.dashforcenews.com/scaling-debate-not-just-bitcoin/)
it shows the following :
....

FYI

works fine for me !


Dash DanielDias + RoceloLopes at CoinBR
(Olla Brazil)

https://youtu.be/_AagS_a0dmo

[alevlaslo]

July 7 the decision point of traders

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8q7wS6bgk1bZE1rQ3F4akI1YzA