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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723728 times)
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August 10, 2017, 09:57:06 AM

Eth, zec and bch were $ 200, they grew but dash stayed in place

Now watch this by other angle that Dash has proved solid support and gave strong signals to the world that its growth is real and price reflects its true value. There were times when almost every market was shuffling but Dash stay strongly and sustained its market.
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August 10, 2017, 10:02:24 AM

Is there any news? After that pump earlier this year project seems to be dead.
Now we should wait for Evolution 2018 and pump it for the last time, right?
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August 10, 2017, 10:14:56 AM

Is there any news? After that pump earlier this year project seems to be dead.
Now we should wait for Evolution 2018 and pump it for the last time, right?

Your ChronoLogic is failing badly, please reboot and perform a self check.

Thank you.

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Coinpayments.net POS System Review


By now you know how much I want to love a Dash compatible Point of Sale (POS) system.  Coinpayments.net has everything you need for a full featured, easy to use Android based POS system.  They support 60+ cryptocurrencies including Dash.  They have a robust looking backend website that seems very secure and provides plenty of information about your transactions.  Also very nice is the fact that they only charge 0.50% service fee which is very fair.

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August 10, 2017, 03:58:11 PM

without digging through a ton of posts, has DASH formed any new partnerships with organizations for payment?
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August 10, 2017, 04:33:00 PM

The walls were exhausted by the Bitfiniex, everything is growing, but the dash is in place because of them, but they were pierced down by the sweet soul

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I dont know if i said this before but i loveeeeee 2017

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August 10, 2017, 05:21:04 PM

without digging through a ton of posts, has DASH formed any new partnerships with organizations for payment?

Well, there is a partnership with Dash AeroSports that is attracting additional businesses to Dash. I think one of those businesses includes
an exchange that added Dash as payment option.

link : https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-aerosports-scott-farnsworth-business-adoption-strategies/

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August 10, 2017, 05:53:40 PM

clearly

I don't know about you, but when I went to grad school they told me I had to provide evidence and documentation to support statements like this, but maybe you missed that day?

P.S. Here's a question that none of you trolls have ever been able to answer: If Evan "clearly" planned the early emission problems and mined tons of Dash early on, then why is he still working on the project? The price of Dash exceeded $11 each in May 2014...if Evan deliberately planned some elaborate scam, then why didn't he sell everything in May 2014 and just disappear, like so many other coin developers have done?

If Dash's instamine was a deliberate scam executed by Evan, WHY is he still working full time developing the coin?

Why?

Yes, clearly:


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The official story about the instamine: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
Evan Duffield:“The instamine happened, there is no one disputing that fact. The crypto-community at large has no problem with this except a few who think it’s trying to be hidden in some way. In fact, I posted multiple times about the instamine, first in “The Birth Of Darkcoin” which is an account of the first few weeks of the launch and the mistakes that were made. Recently I also posted spoke about the Instamine in the video “Virtual Corporation”, which considers the concept that it might have been key to Dash’s success, which I believe now. It’s also important to note, I was working a very challenging day job while working on Dash in the first couple weeks. So I was putting out fires every night, keeping tabs on Dash during the day (while getting yelled at by my boss when he caught me a couple times). Eventually I quit when I got Dash stable enough to work on full time and decided I really wanted to explore what I could do with it. “

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The evidence shows that it was a planned instamine. This wasn't mentioned before launch.
The features of this coin were also not public at launch.
=> Nobody was really interested in the coin at launch, making this instamine more a kind of "stealth launched premine".
In my books, that's a scam.

Please don't ignore the facts:

2013-12-29: 2 guys from Hawk Financial Group, Evan & Kyle, are asking on the Bitcoin Dev mailing list for "1 or 2 really good C++ programmer that is familiar with the bitcoin internals to help with a for-profit startup". They are planning to build a unique coin that is "not just a clone of the original Bitcoin code" but in stead "a merge-mined altcoin that will provide a very useful service to the whole crypto-coin ecosystem". They claim to have "detailed plans on how to implement it".

2014-01-18 There were some issues at launch, so Evan said he would postpone the launch and would "definitely not" launch it in the next hours. But he did launch it a few hours later.

2014-01-19 Xcoin was launched.
This was the emission in the first 72 hours of the coins existence:

This was the emission of the first 100 days:

At the moment, there are about 6 million DASH in circulation. There would be 84 million Xcoins eventually.
Note that in the first hour, 500k Xcoins were mined. Due to the "quick fix" of the bug, not many people expected to launch a few hours after Evan said he would "definitely not" launch in the next hours.

2014-01-19 Right after the launch, there were problems with the window binaries. Evan clearly was mining right from the start, as he offered 5000 Xcoin as a bounty for compiling the binaries.

2014-01-20 After the emission of almost 2 million coins, Evan said that "now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones!". Up until this point, only the "X11 hashing algoritm" was a known feature. According to him, it was "time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do".

2014-01-22 Evan releases his plans for XCoin. At this point, more than 2 million coins were mined.

Xcoin rebranded to Darkcoin and eventually to DASH later on.

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Later on, some contradictions surfaced:

* The emission schedule changed multiple times. The latest we heard is that the number of coins would be somewhere between 14 million and like 16 million DASH.
* Evan said that this project was just a hobby he started while working on a full time job and coded Xcoin in a weekend.
* Evan claims there were hundreds of miners if not thousands when Xcoin launched. Recent investigation showed that there were 124 IP addreses that were mining at the start. 115 of those addresses where Cloudhosting and Dedicated Servers, 9 of them seem to be private/users.106 of them were at Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure cloud instances.
 
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Conclusions:
*Evan isn't acting alone, he had/has a team behind him right from the start. It wasn't a hobby. he had a plan to make a profit.
*Evan had plans for his coin right from the start, but didn't release them until after the instamine
*1.5 million coins were mined in the first 8 hours. Most of these coin ended up in his (and his friends) hands. It's very likely the 500k in the first hour were only mined by him with cloudhosting services.
*He lowered the emission later on, to make his relative share of coins bigger.

Evan was looking for c++ devs for a "for profit startup" at the end of 2013 for the launch of an altcoin.
How can you make a profit by launching an altcoin (and be sure to be able to pay your devs)?
Answer: by premining and/or instamining.
How he did it is pretty easy:
*telling people the release would definitely not be in the next couple of hours and after that do launch it a few hours later
*buggy windows binaries
*a "code error" creating 500k coins in the first hour, >1.5 million in the first 8 hours.

QUESTION:
>How can this be all an accident and NOT be intentional?
ANSWER:
>by premining and/or instamining.

=> DASH was clearly a planned instamine (and thus a scam)

Okay, that is a pretty convincing argument. I still think coming here and re-posting it over and over again is stupid.

I couldn't give a fuck less if Evan was the devil, using DASH to tempt people into eternal hell fire - by doing this, you make XMR look bad.
Really is that true ? ?
 http://weuse.cash/2016/10/26/warning-dash-privacy-is-worse-than-bitcoin/
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August 10, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
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by doing this, you make XMR look bad.
yep, its true that posts like that make XMR look bad.

by the way, is it true you really do have a fake name ?  or is the fake part of your name .. fake ? Huh

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August 10, 2017, 07:57:02 PM



I dont know if i said this before but i loveeeeee 2017


How will 2018 look?
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August 10, 2017, 08:04:04 PM

https://i.imgur.com/7jBWjjw.jpg

I dont know if i said this before but i loveeeeee 2017


How will 2018 look?

Promising  Grin

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August 11, 2017, 07:39:12 AM

Any idea when altcoins will move higher together with BTC? Currently only BTC is moving higher.
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August 11, 2017, 08:07:37 AM
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Any idea when altcoins will move higher together with BTC? Currently only BTC is moving higher.

Currently NEO, IOTA, Qtum, OmiseGo and TenX are altcoins that are getting pumped together with BTC .. after that i'm sure other altcoins
will get pumped (and most likely dumped) as well.

Fun fact : above mentioned altcoins are all not-mineable coins.

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https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/#BTC

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August 11, 2017, 08:45:35 AM

With the growth of bitcoin does not increase dash, and when correcting bitcoin dash will fall together?

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August 11, 2017, 09:18:54 AM

How u pay 4 your food in a Restaurant in Ukraine with Dash!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=200&v=VlWoVeKWXbA

#dash_force
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August 11, 2017, 09:23:28 AM
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With the growth of bitcoin does not increase dash, and when correcting bitcoin dash will fall together?

Since end of may 2017 the rising Bitcoin price has caused the Dash price in FIAT (Dollar & EUR) to increase while at the same time
the Dash price in BTC gets lower but all in all seems to remain stable .. specially if you look at it over a longer period.



Once Bitcoin has a very large correction and possibly enters a bear market again, i imagine the reverse could happen :

Dash price in BTC has less pressure from Bitcoin and increases again, the orange line indicating the Dash price in BTC will start to grow and finally overtake the green line indicating
the Dash price in FIAT. We will then enter a golden period for Dash, where Dash will be clearly gaining on Bitcoin.  

When this "golden age" starts for Dash is anyone's guess.... also the question remains if this golden age will be driven by speculation (pump and dump groups) or by actual usage (impact of Dash Evolution).
Most likely it will be a combination of those two, but the ideal situation for Dash would of course be actual usage driven Dash growth. And that is what the Dash roadmap is also aiming for.

 

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August 11, 2017, 10:19:00 AM

Any idea when altcoins will move higher together with BTC? Currently only BTC is moving higher.

Currently NEO, IOTA, Qtum, OmiseGo and TenX are altcoins that are getting pumped together with BTC .. after that i'm sure other altcoins
will get pumped (and most likely dumped) as well.

Fun fact : above mentioned altcoins are all not-mineable coins.

link :

https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/#BTC

Pumping coins is now risky business, no? I never heard of those coins infact. To pump a coin you need 100 BTC? or even more?
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August 11, 2017, 10:42:24 AM




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August 11, 2017, 11:51:59 AM

Some nice  FUD aka Slandering of DASH is going on again.

For starters Look at this video:
Bitcoin vs Dash - Ridiculous comments on Dash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzqGf_ak_2I

How Dash's 'PrivateSend' Works Under the Hood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgCId3wJc5Y


If  that not enough do some serious research on DASH it's past please read and view all of this:

http://blog.anonymousbitcoinbook.com/2014/09/darkcoin-code-review-results/

Evan Duffield has no more than 256,000 Dash and will give away 80% of that to fund DAOs within DASH
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/62jc3b/evan_duffield_has_no_more_than_256000_dash_and/
A View of: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem
http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/

Dash Instamine Issue Clarification
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Instamine FAQ
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined?

Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552

Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424

Dash in fact has one of the best distrubitions out there (compare for yourself):
https://bitinfocharts.com/


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If you want also take a look at this;



Kristov Atlas Darksend/Privatesend review and response from Dash team.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/reply-to-kristovs-paper.2325/

How Dash's 'PrivateSend' Works Under the Hood
https://youtu.be/vgCId3wJc5Y

Dash Deanonomization Challenge From Febuary 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg14031652#msg14031652

Monero Cripplemine Fastmine issues
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0

Dash's privacy feature has never been broken - Turns out Monero's privacy feature has never really worked to begin with
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/65fz68/dashs_privacy_feature_has_never_been_broken_turns/

Monero Transactions History Can Be Revealed and Exposed: Research
https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-research

Warning: Every CryptoNote/Monero transaction in history will be retroactively exposed
https://steemit.com/cryptonote/@macrochip/warning-every-cryptonote-monero-transaction-in-history-will-be-retroactively-exposed

The Design Objectives that Were Conveniently Left out of that Appraisal
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12823282#msg12823282

Tech Stocks vs Monetary Stocks and Why Dash is Persuing the Latter
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg17491202#msg17491202

Why Balancing "Dark" and "Light" Markets Work and Why Instant Transactions are a Priority for Dash
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13239732#msg13239732
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13366974#msg13366974

Symmetric Risk Mitigation for Low Confirmation Payments - Why Dash is MORE Secure Than Bitcion, not Less
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13328511#msg13328511

Pricing in "Everything" vs Pricing in "the Launch"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg11054151#msg11054151

Why Dash's Privacy Model is Optimal for an Unbacked Store of Value Token
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg17687393#msg17687393

Who gets a voice with the Governance Model ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433982.msg14584154#msg14584154



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