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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722742 times)
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September 21, 2017, 12:59:50 PM

Cool story.  Now let's get back on topic.
It is not a story.

https://getmonero.org/2017/05/17/disclosure-of-a-major-bug-in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html

You are very worried about Dash ... maybe you should start worrying about your own coin.

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September 21, 2017, 01:15:52 PM
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CoinGate Crypto Payment Processor Review


CoinGate is a service that allows you to buy / sell bitcoin and also provides a payment gateway with both online and traditional POS options. They use shapeshift to allow the use of “altcoins” including Dash.  Coingate charges a 1% processing fee for using the gateway services.  They allow for withdrawal in fiat currencies through a number of different options including PayPal.

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September 21, 2017, 01:28:44 PM
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Damn - Monero has some really big problems right now!

I'm not really surprised to see Monero trolls in the Dash thread trying to kick up a stink as we're the coin to beat and launched before they did.

Can someone please explain to me why Monero Avg Transactions Fees are over $100 for last 5 days!!!!

No Fluff just Facts!


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September 21, 2017, 01:42:49 PM

Damn - Monero has some really big problems right now!

I'm not really surprised to see Monero trolls in the Dash thread trying to kick up a stink as we're the coin to beat and launched before they did.

Can someone please explain to me why Monero Avg Transactions are over $100 for last 5 days!!!!

No Fluff just Facts!


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September 21, 2017, 01:48:05 PM

Can someone please explain to me why Monero Avg Transactions are over $100 for last 5 days!!!!

Don't you mean fees ?
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September 21, 2017, 02:05:14 PM

Is the dashninja.pl offline ?
Is owner aware?

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September 21, 2017, 02:05:30 PM

Instant send was fixed but since the new release is out soon it was bundled into that. Dash has a history of delivering everything thats promised.

Monero doesn't even have 'releases'. You just grab the latest dev version and hope it works.
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September 21, 2017, 02:07:19 PM

Is the dashninja.pl offline ?
Is owner aware?

Yes looks offline to me too qwizzie
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NeoCash Radio Appearance on DIP001, Venezuela Conferences, and August’s Crowdfunded London Trip


Last night I went on NeoCash Radio again to talk about all the amazing things happening in the Dash community lately. We covered DIP001 (the first of the Dash Improvement Proposals), soon-to-be lowered fees in a world where many top cryptocurrencies are going up in transaction cost, and the amazing success of the Dash Caracas conferences in Venezuela. We also gave a special shoutout to August Domanchuk, NeoCash fan and aspiring developer who crowdfunded his trip to the London conference.

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September 21, 2017, 04:46:05 PM

Instant send was fixed but since the new release is out soon it was bundled into that. Dash has a history of delivering everything thats promised.

Yes it has made impact on dashcoin's price. Dash has advanced on it’s short term ascending channel which started forming after a major support test in $220 range. It’s overall in a positive bias and might test $400 level soon.
DASH continues to trend higher in the higher time frame charts with major resistance expected at 412.20.
Price action broke above minor resistance at 330.00 on Monday signaling increasing bull momentum.
At 362.00, chances of a break above immediate resistance at 412 is likely.
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Dash Force MVP Contest Winners for August – September 2017


The winners of the August – September Dash Force Most Valuable Players Contest are…
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September 21, 2017, 05:46:28 PM

Is there any updates about Evolution? When should it hit mainnet?
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September 21, 2017, 06:07:36 PM

Is there any updates about Evolution? When should it hit mainnet?

https://github.com/dashpay/dash-roadmap

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September 21, 2017, 06:12:51 PM

Guys, please answer, since when does monero have a masternode? where is this information at?
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September 21, 2017, 06:14:44 PM

Guys, please answer, since when does monero have a masternode? where is this information at?

It was already answerred, Monero does not have masternodes.

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What a waste of time ...


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Looking out for more information about this on the blogs!
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September 22, 2017, 02:31:14 AM


* What if nodes/miners decide to censor or discriminate transactions above 10,000$...

You're conflating fungibility of the coin supply with "fungibility" of the transacting environment.

They are distinct.


No they are not. You either have fungibility or not. You can't pretend to have fungibility while actually not having it.

It's the same as privacy on Dash. You either have it or you dont. If the TX can be traced back via some blockchain analysis, then you neither have privacy nor fungibility. So why pretend that you do?


you literally have to enforce equality on the blockchain, by anonymizing everything, but leaving it cryptographically verifiable and secure.[/b]

Information for you:

Encrypted blockchains are far less "verifiable" and far less "secure" than unencrypted ones.

Yeah it's called public key cryptography, you can verify the  encrypted block with the public key, that is why Monero supplies a pubkey as well as an additional layer of privacy which you would normally not share.


Not to mention slow transaction times, bloated blockchain, almost non existant official releases, not very many full nodes on the network, and of course the opaque blockchain in which you have to trust there is no bad actor stealthily minting coins they shouldn't. But apart from that. Hey at least Monero has a graphical UI these days. It took a while.



Whoah hold on there buddy that is pure disinformation.

From what I researched Monero has over 1k nodes, well geographically dispersed, pretty decent for a project of it's size, while Dash's Masternode allegations still stand, due to it's costly nature we don't know whether it's the orignal devs setup the Masternodes or not, I personally highly doubt that many people have that much money to throw out on a node so, at the very least people should be vigilant about the Masternodes. So a sybil attack is more probable on Dash.

And you also seem to confuse Monero with Zcash. It's Zcash that has a totally non-transparent blockchain with "trusted" initialization. Monero is decentralized and trustless.


Now I don't know about "bloated blockchain", that's such a redundant term, almost everyone uses it to criticize a competitor. And the last time I sent a Monero TX (wasn't that long ago), the TX confirmed pretty quickly with decent fees.


So I think you are just trying to discredit Monero here from a competitor's point of view.


You are right on the GUI part though, I really had to learn the console commands just to make a wallet, pretty gruesome nerdy work, but I think it was worth it. A better GUI and possible mobile apps and such should be put out in the future though.

Thanks for tackling the FUD generated by the Evan's Gate cult to keep their members brainwashed.  Mind if I pile on?

The lies about XMR nodes are a deflection from criticism of Dash's many problems and easily proven false (which makes the initial lie more shameful/less forgivable).  Accordingn to https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html there are "Total nodes: 1451" ATM.

Now let's consider how 1500 XMR nodes stack up against 4500 Masternodes.

The hardware footprint is similar for now, but we should keep in mind Evan is already acting to create expensive, obligatory, proprietary Masternode hardware because he insists on shoving every transaction into Layer1 like some kind of derpy crypto-clown.

So both nodes run on a simple $5/month Vultr, no problem.  That's good for decentralization, which is measured by the cost of the option to run a full node.

But Dash artificially raises the barrier to entry by 1000 Dash, which brings CONOP to ~$300k and thus destroys any illusion about the Dash network being diverse/diffuse/defensible/resilient.

Another aspect is how the nodes work together to instantiate their respective protocols.  Monero nodes do not have to trust each other because their protocol is trustless and does not leak exploitable metadata.  But Masternodes do not 'blind' their connections and so must trust their fellow Masternodes are not malicious or otherwise compromised.  The Masternode protocol was supposedly going to add blinding, but that never happened because Duffield isn't a good enough programmer and doesn't care about shredding his credibility with fanciful plans which are announced to great fanfare and then silently abandoned.

As for Sybil attacks, there exists in Dash an incentive to attack fellow Masternodes which has no counterpart in Monero.  IE, Masternode owners may increase the amount and frequency of their own Masternode Ponzi payments by removing other Masternodes from the payment queue (accomplished by knocking them offline).

Similarly, there exists in Dash an incentive to sabotage InstantSend because Masternodes reap higher tx fees processing regular (and especially PrivateSend) transactions.

Dash has no fucking business talking about a "bloated blockchain" when Evan is planning on moving Masternodes to exotic custom verification ASICs just to get around his failure to implement segwit and enable payments being moved to higher layers.  This moron is buddies with all the Big Blockers like Roger Ver, and in his diseased imagination he believes $500k Masternodes hosted in $1k/month data centers processing 500mb blocks is going to be the wave of future.

Compared to the latest Bitcoin Core, Dash's blockchain is bloated because Dash transactions still must use precious block space for mostly-useless witness data at the cost of excluding additional transactions.  This bloat cannot be pruned, unlike the user-definable pruning levels available in Core.

Where is the Dash supporter willing to honestly compare the total cumulative size ("blockchain bloat") of a PrivateSend Dash transaction versus one from Monero?

Of course the best privacy in the world isn't free.  Only a bloated blue-hair SJW with hideous extra-thick cankles and zero understanding of computer science would expect otherwise.

Having said that, let's keep in mind Monero's RingCT is the initial release, with amazing sub-log optimizations (google "RuffCT") coming Soon(tm).

The best party of Monero's CLI is that it kept Dash clowns from buying during the years of cheap sub-dollar XMR.

They were not willing to learn and apply themselves so they didn't get the XMR gains.

Back in the day, I spent a couple of weeks cursing like a sailor and popping telomeres just getting cgminer to work, followed by months of fighting with thermal paste/fans/firmware/drivers/clock speeds/mem timings/pools/orphans/rejects/variance.  That "gruesome nerdy work" was the most valuable experience of my life....  Cool

That's how crypto is supposed to work; it's not a free ride for the MOAR GIBS PLZ leeches.

We are now experiencing Peak Eternal September as evidenced by the voluntary transfer of wealth to useless shitlibs lacking any redeeming talent or ability.

People have accused me of being a Monero shill, while I said at the begginning that I try to be impartial, but it's getting hard if I see only lies posted. I actually hold both XMR and DASH now at this point ,so I should normally not care since I am well hedged.

But identifying problems is the first step on fixing them. DASH can be fixed but the community has to admit it first that it has some tiny flaws first.


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September 22, 2017, 02:38:24 AM

I am not confused about Monero and Zcash. Both have opaque blockchains.

No you don't get it. The monero Blockchain can be verified by the pubkey, which only you should have anyway the transactions in the block don't matter from decentralization point of view, the crypto is solid and the format is probably not malleable. So it works perfectly.

While Zcash is totally dark, which means that it totally relies on the trusted initialization phase. And Dash is totally open with "optional" privacy whic is also very weak.

Monero is both trustless and private, it's the golden mean between decentralization and privacy.


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September 22, 2017, 03:55:15 AM

I am not confused about Monero and Zcash. Both have opaque blockchains.

No you don't get it. The monero Blockchain can be verified by the pubkey, which only you should have anyway the transactions in the block don't matter from decentralization point of view, the crypto is solid and the format is probably not malleable. So it works perfectly.

While Zcash is totally dark, which means that it totally relies on the trusted initialization phase. And Dash is totally open with "optional" privacy whic is also very weak.

Monero is both trustless and private, it's the golden mean between decentralization and privacy.

The Monero blockchain can NOT be verified with a pubkey.  A Monero Transaction Can be verified,  That is a BIG difference. 

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