[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[birdonthewire]

The waiting is now on Bitcoin to begin its next dump cycle and for Altcoins (including Dash) to begin their next pump cycle.

Great ! That's yet another string to the Dash economic-fundamentals bow.

That's all on top of our stablecoin price-throttling mechanics.

Nice !

 




LOL !!! ... Cross your fingers, say "abracadabra" and trust the altcoins lottery !!! The roadmap from the DAO hijackers to paradise! who needs a gun to the head ... with these gurus at the helm

Toxic qwizzie ... with its daily ration of poison (you can't be such so idiot for that long, no sir). And the other, the "controlled dissident" whose "miraculous reconversion" for the cause we witness live... well ... a couple of years ago boycotting the DASH comunication channels, like all his parasitic mafia, any stable, hyper-necessary, desperate resource for the system in a process of free fall ... which of course they dropped, and now, buying cheaply the ruin of people who trusted their fantastic tales ... and selling us magic potions "RTaylor style" with tightrope walking in the heights and colorful graphics: Fattening the Christmas turkey again, nothing new.




Nakamoto's Cannibalism, exploding like a real shot. Obviously.It is the soundtrack at the Fiat´s funeral ... to spawn the scam of the next centuries. Change everything so that nothing changes.


And here, the DAO hijackers, focused on their information intoxication, their scams ... and taking their seats from other DAO beneficiaries, such as the miners and formerly the most humble owners of DASH ... while they nail to which he holds his ass. A government of repressors, idiots, thieves and liars, nothing more.

As soon as BTC starts its next contraction move ... DASH, on its way to zero ... just like any other that does not face the poisonous standard that absorbs everything. Each of these parasites that plunder the treasure after years and years and millions and millions of wasted resources, has no forgiveness from God.

Now, after all this monstrous waste, the objective is no longer to get rich and surf this revolution from a preferential place, but just to survive ... not to take advantage of the trend and ensure financial freedom and that DASH grows as brutally as BTC ... only to achieve the crossing point between the value of DASH and that of its Reserves. From there, your wealth cannot be drained. DASH didn't want to do it to be rich: He will do it to keep breathing.

As long as that does not occur, only the poison of the parasites and / or fools ... and a direct descent into hell. BTC is an enemy, it is designed to drain. The solution to being independent of his attacks is not to run away from his game or live with his back to him ... but to get into it, to get into his veins. Not escape, but face.

Even if DASH rose 300% today and the poisonous Mason flooded tweeter with colored rockets and roller coasters, it would not escape Nakamoto's Cannibalism - because BTC could accompany its rise and boycott it from above by withdrawing its capital, strategically inserted in that rise as future bombs. ... is an infinite process on an open-traded asset - ... and that 300% or a hundred times more, would disappear with a snap of the fingers. And THAT is financial freedom: Escaping drainage standards. The fiat, is the official ... BTC is the one of the "presumed liberation" (in reality, it is just a catalyst of that same fiat, among other things ... the same scam raised to the umpteenth power and varnished with libertarian altruism ).

The inertial "stabilities" that all these idiots propose, with their cheap witch dances, starting with Rtaylor, are a fallacy. They survive by their assaults on the Treasury, they are the dirty hands OF YOUR CHEST. Their cheap magic doesn't feed them. They sell us shit ... but they eat meat. And of course ... they are loaded with BTC up to their ears: The same wealth that they deny to this scammed community. The REAL community ... not its thieves club, painted pink.

 6 years of children's stories, theft and subsidized laziness. Smoke and mirrors with Evolutions, entire countries adopting our currency - and it's so shitty they don't even with 4-digit inflation - and "misunderstood excellence" ... GARBAGE. BTC is designed to steal. DASH, to sow. The war between good and evil, black and white, archangels against fallen angels ... is served. But Ryan Taylor and other trolls delay it ... or deny it to us ... while ruining thousands of people who have trusted their filthy tongue with their lies and thefts. The DAO kidnappers, with the formula in their hands, are busy in their greed for tiny and miserable beings ... in its fifth division human essence. Duffield designed a system that grew with assaults / invasions and shielded itself from speculation: But that miraculous gift fell into the middle of a pigsty of idiots, miseries, and vile.

Nakamoto's Cannibalism is disarmed ONLY with exposure to BTC and Gold - the only asset that synthesizes wealth per se on Wall Street, in a cave at night, in the middle of the desert or in an arctic igloo ... that reproduces an economic exchange without necessity of third parties unrelated to the economic deal, is the essence of a wealth exchange without treasurer signatures, portraits of dead presidents or digital confirmations ... and that must support any system, it must be the safe of any economic structure, and more than one that cyclically dumps the spoils of his robberies emptying himself to resume his umpteenth "puff" at the expense of wealth and the breath of others -.

They will steal your money until all the DASH cap does not arrive even to buy a bitcoin. Duffield's miracle, a powerful weapon and the perfect antidote , was given away ... but it fell into the middle of a rotten gang that wipes its ass with it, every day. With him ... and with your money. Walk slowly through this garbage, companions.

[birdonthewire]

Probably about $160 is my guess, with a possible wick as high as $240.  Noting that fair value is at $90 currently.

Mmm I do not know. mate ... no gifs of colored dolls, rockets to the moon or fireworks ... not so effective. Call Mason or to your censor friend "two showers less" ... they have a closet full of effective emoticons for clueless Fiat owners .

Rethink that trolling, we need strength and "hook" for the next fools wave to deliver 6-figure Mnodes, bro...because the air alone does not feed  





Without Reserves of real wealth in consolidated stores of value off chain - and unrelated to speculation against DASH - (A REAL AND INALIENABLE FLOOR ) none, I repeat, NO inflows of wealth will be held by DASH - although you and your speculative shenanigans give a crap, eh , "DASH Defender"?...better to send the hypes of DASH direct to your personal pocket than to consolidate them in the wealth of the collective project that you all squeeze, eh, artist? - ...

[toknormal]

They will steal your money until all the DASH cap does not arrive even to buy a bitcoin. Duffield's miracle, a powerful weapon and the perfect antidote , was given away ... but it fell into the middle of a rotten gang that wipes its ass with it, every day. With him ... and with your money. Walk slowly through this garbage, companions.

Translation for the deaf..."you cannot sustain commercially uneconomic profits paid for out of the capital value of an asset without eventually destroying that asset".

[birdonthewire]

They will steal your money until all the DASH cap does not arrive even to buy a bitcoin. Duffield's miracle, a powerful weapon and the perfect antidote , was given away ... but it fell into the middle of a rotten gang that wipes its ass with it, every day. With him ... and with your money. Walk slowly through this garbage, companions.

Translation for the deaf...you cannot sustain commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of an asset without eventually destroying that asset.

Oh yeah

Explain the destruction of that asset. ( because THIS current structure, YES , IS the INTERESTED destruction of that asset , the owner of the magic potion against the scam of the BTC black hole an his extractive scam - or perhaps, its destruction only in the eyes of those who own it - . That powerful asset that they deliberately keep paralized ).

The, for some people,  "inordinate" S2F of DASH and a tombstone impossible to drag if you treat your asset as garbage, is, with the optimization of the system of self-financing of DUffield (really, just letting it work and not boycotting it) , a divine blessing as soon as you link that asset (DASH) to a real wealth floor in value deposits hermetics to speculation executed against the constantly fucked main asset . Automatically, you've got a proportional solid money printing machine. So, how it sounds.

Now tell me that a guy who's worked at MCKinsey for half a dozen years doesn't understand something so elementary ... and that he needs to raise the stability of DASH ... incomprehensible gibberish or arguments about the sex of angels.   That exposed automatic correlation understands it ... even whoever scrubs the toilets there.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-taylor-dash/

[xkcdd]

Translation for the deaf...you cannot sustain commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of an asset without eventually destroying that asset.

False.

Refer to the month chart of DOGE/BTC posted below.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/XX1z8Rf5/
This picture perfect coin, is 100% mined, been around for longer than DASH, available on all exchanges and yet is plumbing new lows on the BTC ratio.  Add to that, its S2F is better than DASH's too with an inflation rate just a smidge higher than Bitcoin.  Tok, you are a natural born fudder, please stop being deceitful and going as far as feeding the trolls to fuel your FUD filled agenda, it reflects poorly on you.

X Greeting.

[toknormal]

False.

Doge is not trying to sustain "commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of the asset". Dash is.

You're conflating capital gains/losses with operating margins for economic activities.

[birdonthewire]

 Tok, you are a natural born fudder, please stop being deceitful and going as far as feeding the trolls to fuel your FUD filled agenda, it reflects poorly on you.

X Greeting.

Stop trying to inhibit free thought and expression, con artist. This is not the corrupt Dash TROLLK discord. The few arguments that you have presented have been dismantled to you at the minute and with a click. Contribute others ... or stop trolling.

Obviously, not because of TokNormal, which is not going to give you any fucking attention ... but so that you do not intoxicate the rest of DASH followers.

Do something positive, come on, go suck the verge of "two showers less", for example ... that always makes you smile.   And if you have a romantic day ... i don´t know...call some mariachis.  

Isn't it wonderful that we're all happy?  

[xkcdd]

Doge is not trying to sustain "commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of the asset". Dash is.

You're conflating capital gains/losses with operating margins for economic activities.

Nonsense.  DOGE is a pure mined coin, one of which you hold to such high esteem and yet its price is languishing not unlike DASH's.  Applying your faux logic one would believe that DOGE should be gaining value rather than making an all time.  You seem to have no answer to this, instead you point again to what you purpose is DASH's faultly economic model, a diversion.  First we need to establish the truth to what you claim, that a 100% mined coin fairs better than one partially mined coin.

[qwizzie]

Bitcoin Cash (another 100% mined coin) is doing even worst then Dash.

Dash : 95,19 % down from ATH
Bitcoin Cash : 96,27% down from ATH
Zcash : 93,43% down from ATH



 

[toknormal]

First we need to establish the truth to what you claim, that a 100% mined coin fairs better than one partially mined coin.

So our primary competitor is Doge now ?

Keep re-adjusting those sights.

[qwizzie]

First we need to establish the truth to what you claim, that a 100% mined coin fairs better than one partially mined coin.

So our primary competitor is Doge now ?

No, it is just that your theory about 100% mined coins performing better then partially mined coins, is inconclusive at best.

Dash : 95,19 % down from ATH
Bitcoin Cash : 96,27% down from ATH (worse then Dash)
Zcash : 93,43% down from ATH

Source : messari.io

[toknormal]

No, it is just that your theory about 100% mined coins performing better

That wasn't my "theory".

My "observation" is that as Dash price rises, ever more of the blockchain capital is used to fund masternode profits instead of raising mining difficulty and that results in a hard crash at the point where mining and masternode margin disparity becomes unsustainable.

There are cheap 100% mined coins and there are expensive 100% mined coins. Quoting one of the cheap ones at me just cheapens your case, not mine.

[qwizzie]

No, it is just that your theory about 100% mined coins performing better

That wasn't my "theory".

My "observation" is that as Dash price rises, ever more of the blockchain capital is used to fund masternode profits instead of raising mining difficulty and that results in a hard crash at the point where mining and masternode margin disparity becomes unsustainable.

There are cheap 100% mined coins and there are expensive 100% mined coins. Quoting one of the cheap ones at me just cheapens your case, not mine.

Bitcoin Cash is a cheap 100% mined coin ?  

Bitcoin Cash : $243
Price % down from ATH 96,27% (worse then Dash)

Dash : $77
Price % down from ATH 95,19%
 

[toknormal]

Bitcoin Cash is a cheap 100% mined coin ?  

You're getting a bit desperate. Clutching at any random anecdotal challenge to the elephant in the room that Dash has.

Bitcoin Cash has little or no spare capital to put into mining. Dash has a full HALF of its new supply that is simply given away - for ZERO investment in the chain - available to it as dry powder to support the price of emerging blocks.

Instead of using it for this purpose it throws it away. Think about that the next time the price is at $500 and you get your weekly notifications that you've received $650 from the blockchain. Other chains have to invest that in mining to keep the difficulty high across the WHOLE CHAIN. You are free to invest it in holiday cruises.

Unfortunately such free gifts come with a price - that is paid by all holders. The slow atrophying of the marketcap compared with our 100% mined competitors.

[qwizzie]

All i can really conclude from all of this, is that it does not matter if a coin is 100% mined or not (price performance wise).
The rest is just noise.

 

[xkcdd]

So our primary competitor is Doge now ?

Keep re-adjusting those sights.

In a way yes.  DOGE is a payments coin and exploits many of the features DASH prides itself for such low transaction fees and quick settlement.  I am just picking it because according to you it is one of the coins that should be doing better than it apparently is, if you maintain the focus purely on Bitcoin, you reduce your sample size of mined coins to one and then we cannot know if it is true that a mined coin is a better store of value than a hybird coin such as DASH.  Tok, I think your argument is starting to show strain, you're a better man than this, come clean and state what really is behind this latest attack on a coin you once loved so much.

X Greeting.

[birdonthewire]

Doge is not trying to sustain "commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of the asset". Dash is.

You're conflating capital gains/losses with operating margins for economic activities.

Nonsense.  DOGE is a pure mined coin, one of which you hold to such high esteem and yet its price is languishing not unlike DASH's.  Applying your faux logic one would believe that DOGE should be gaining value rather than making an all time.  You seem to have no answer to this, instead you point again to what you purpose is DASH's faultly economic model, a diversion.  First we need to establish the truth to what you claim, that a 100% mined coin fairs better than one partially mined coin.

Crypto mining is absolutely overvalued. Even more so in projects that can be forked and recreate tokens effortlessly. It is normal for the most orthodox judgments to assume that correlation because it is an original crypto dogma ... but it will be overthrown (in fact, today there are already countless samples in the crypto ranking of it).

Crypto miners are not physical miners. That analogy had less travel yet than that of BTC as physical Gold. BTC is worth by the current consensus - imo, the covert alliance - of big capital, which has already included it in its roadmap (imo, it is only mainstream public blessing, because BTC was, from its own and calculated design, a catalyst and valve out of a fiat pressure cooker with no future due to its manipulation of no return - aspect that was assumed in the Lehman crisis : sustain the scam by printing to death ... or explode in 2008 - ... and because a Tether even less valuable than fiat, but a crypto consensus trick, has sustained and dragged until this final party (In simile cyclist, "he has pulled his leader to the foot of the port").

Intrinsic value is the monetary power of each project (for which technology is key - but nothing by itself -) ... and the shielding of ownership and value of the resulting consensus currency. It doesn't give a shit if it was created with a snap of the fingers ... what matters is the power to use it - qualities, capacity -, the exclusivity of that use - property - and how those parameters are accepted in a user´s community. If it's really good for something and it's irreplicable (copies are replicas ... and not only : enhanced copies, competing currency advances) ... it will be valuable, regardless of the initial production system. By the way ... and regarding the power of using it ... No money has a 100% intrinsic use ... ONLY GOLD recreates the process of economic exchange without more guests than the protagonists of an exchange of wealth between two parties. Gold shows itself among the parties involved, acts ... and disappears until it expresses its miracle again. Per se,  without the need for any external authority (political, digital or otherwise) to the inherent between two free parts. That will cause the bullish explosions of a BTC whose value is that of its own price trend to end up en masse, in Gold (and other Real Wealth destinations, but we are talking about the monetary ones). But that is another story, very long term ... and cryptos, along that way, will have their role. In summary and imo, I would say that BTC will be the best customer of Gold ... as well as so many other assets of real value. (Of course, after continuing to drag the value of Gold under the shit in front of the public opinion).

Any crypto that wants to perpetuate itself must be provided with backups in Real Wealth (...or it will just be an frenzy orgy of numbers going in and out of it - for lovers of pyrotechnics and tothemoons, sorry ... the increases NEITHER consolidate value- ). And the shielding of that real wealth will produce (certainly consolidate) a measure of usable value as currency. That is its value.

By the way ... DASH (coincidentally again , Rtaylor ) is already implementing Real Wealth Repositories in DASH... although the Mnodes, as always ... vote for them with their ass and its characteristic blindness. (by the way ... the best thing for DASH ... if what interests you about the project is its ability to receive, accumulate and project wealth AS A COLLECTIVE STRUCTURE is ... the "possible" increase of the common treasure up to 20% of every Superblock - casually also "slipped" by the most "harmless, quiet and clueless" boy in school ... RTaylor   -)

[toknormal]

All i can really conclude from all of this, is that it does not matter if a coin is 100% mined or not (price performance wise).
The rest is just noise.

Who cares about "Price performance". It's not marketcap.

You can conclude that we're not where we anticipated we'd be 4 years ago and start entertaining a more systemic reason for it than not having "gamed the circulating supply" enough.

[qwizzie]

WOW!  What an exciting time to be in DASH!  Last week the miners gave us a picture perfect finish with locking in the realloc hardfork, it now gestates for a week and the first adjustment to the block reward will be made after the next Superblock pays out in 13 days time !!!!  

Not only that, but DCG have commited to flipping   the SPORK on the 17th of Nov to fork off about a 1000 legacy nodes clinging to old versions.    Once the spork is active, the network will become one again and joyous time can he had by all.  I do expect to see some selling from bears that would rather the network didn't upgrade and to that end I have put together a fantastic resource for us!

Introducing DASH Legacy Nodes from the team behind MNOWatch !  
https://mnowatch.org/legacynodes/

This page is a list of collateral addresses belonging to masternodes that are still running an old version of the dashd daemon    We also provide the current PoSe score and address balance.  Once the SPORK is flipped, the network will start PoSe banning these nodes and we can expect them to act.  Either they upgrade, or they sell.  This page is how you can track that.

What are those collateral addresses starting with a 7 ? (Dash addresses start with an X)



Also be informed that it shows not just legacy nodes, it also shows already updated nodes.
Please make sure it only shows nodes with older protocol versions (older then 70218).

[toknormal]

Crypto mining is absolutely overvalued.

Not as overvalued as "free money".