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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9725463 times)
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@BirdOnTheWire but it won't happen. Can you really see masternodes voting to limit their own powers. This is why i have concluded Dash does not have a good future. There is always the speculative pump and dump though. Perhaps you time it right.

If a masternode coin is conceived with more limited masternode powers it might be interesting

It is practically impossible from within. That's why blocking Shared Mnodes is a much bigger trap than people think ... nothing to do with the greed of little fishes for 4 coins. The modest Mnodes have chosen centralization and crap against decentralization, optimization and cleanliness, believing themselves to be beneficiaries of the scam ... but when they hear "Rome does not pay traitors" the laugh is going to be enormous. And poetic justice.

The worst part is the disappointment the real community long ago jumped ship, scammed and disappointed ... but there are options to decentralize DASH.Would you be interested in doing it? Recover and optimize one of the best currencies in the sector? Not a bad job, imo ...  Wink

Anyway ... DASH continues to lead the way in the sector, but in its worst practices. After the "Free yourself !: Delegate your coins" in front of the "Not your keys, not your coins" ... we go to the "Smart pockets" in front of the Smart contracts ... and we continue with: "The code is law .. .but the law is me. "

The cheap scam is truly a joke. What charlatans swindlers.

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

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@BirdOnTheWire but it won't happen. Can you really see masternodes voting to limit their own powers. This is why i have concluded Dash does not have a good future. There is always the speculative pump and dump though. Perhaps you time it right.

There is one other dimension to consider. Masternodes have a lot of capital at stake. They do not like to see that capital depreciate.

If, through force of reasoned argument, they can be persuaded that it's the very rewards they are receiving which are simultaneously draining their capital of value, then their self-interest may be redirected more productively for all (including themselves).

I think that Dash - being the first self governed blockchain - had to encounter this challenge at some point. i.e. that with voting power comes responsibility. In my opinion Darwinism will take care of it if masternodes don't because policies that don't work will lead to depreciation of the asset (which is what we've seen and are seeing) against other assets in our sector that are competing for investment.

As masternodes get ever lower in value (against the equivalent holding in bitcoin) they will simply get sold off to people with more constructive visions as to how they are best deployed. It's the fanboyism that's toxic. We need investors that are only interested in a return and who thoroughly understand the mechanics of how that return is generated. Nothing can be dismissed because the blockchain is our budget and we have three budgetary targets instead of one:

 • wealth preservation (mining)
 • service provision (masternodes)
 • forward investment (treasury)

For us to be highly competitive, there is no room for any "flab" in any one of them but right now masternodes are draining the other two unnecessarily. They have huge flab which only grows as price rises. It's not unreasonable (IMO) to characterise it as a tumour at high prices due to their fixed operating costs.
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Dash Platform & DashPay will be hitting Dash Testnet later this month, and have a targetdate of Q1, 2021 for Dash Mainnet.
Since both Dash Platform & DashPay have been on Dash Evonet & Dash Devnet for almost a year now, i think the targetdate for Dash Mainnet is reachable.

Dash Platform : https://www.dash.org/developers/


Source picture : from above mentioned website

DashPay

DashPay Username Registration Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtTaezpxQOs

Demo of DashPay Contacts and Notifications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ3_Q45HdOA

Pay to User Using the Dashpay Wallet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw2CrHyQMVI

Dash future is looking bright. To those that invested in Dash, or stayed invested in Dash :



Of course selling most of your seeds at the bottom, will give you a whole lot less harvesting  Wink

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@BirdOnTheWire but it won't happen. Can you really see masternodes voting to limit their own powers. This is why i have concluded Dash does not have a good future. There is always the speculative pump and dump though. Perhaps you time it right.

There is one other dimension to consider. Masternodes have a lot of capital at stake. They do not like to see that capital depreciate.

If, through force of reasoned argument, they can be persuaded that it's the very rewards they are receiving which are simultaneously draining their capital of value, then their self-interest may be redirected more productively for all (including themselves).

I think that Dash - being the first self governed blockchain - had to encounter this challenge at some point. i.e. that with voting power comes responsibility. In my opinion Darwinism will take care of it if masternodes don't because policies that don't work will lead to depreciation of the asset (which is what we've seen and are seeing) against other assets in our sector that are competing for investment.

As masternodes get ever lower in value (against the equivalent holding in bitcoin) they will simply get sold off to people with more constructive visions as to how they are best deployed. It's the fanboyism that's toxic. We need investors that are only interested in a return and who thoroughly understand the mechanics of how that return is generated. Nothing can be dismissed because the blockchain is our budget and we have three budgetary targets instead of one:

 • wealth preservation (mining)
 • service provision (masternodes)
 • forward investment (treasury)

For us to be highly competitive, there is no room for any "flab" in any one of them but right now masternodes are draining the other two unnecessarily. They have huge flab which only grows as price rises. It's not unreasonable (IMO) to characterise it as a tumour at high prices due to their fixed operating costs.

- From $ 1650 to $ 40, now $ 90 ... but Mnodes "don't like their assets to depreciate"? Do you really think this is an extension to consider? Darwinism has already been in action for years, the point is that it is taken advantage of by early adopters who bought at $ 1 and go in frree ride of profits to increase their positions at the expense of a legion of deceived post-2017 whose patience and average investment it has bombed no less than 98%.

- The preservation of wealth is not inherent to mining, even if that was your initial message - whose excessive defense we could already verify that it was nothing but the camouflage of private tax interests, which greatly questions your interest in the strength and optimization of DASH as crypto project ... and that should be the only relevant motivation that manages to properly reorient its situation -. Miners are a necessary production-emission system, as well as security, as Mnodes are for other services, but nothing more. They are elements that must be sustained ... to achieve a structure of progressive prosperity. The optimization of collective financial resources is what will measure that prosperity in DASH. And it is so easy, that simply by moving that available capital away from the constant stupidities of the parasitic and / or irresponsible elite of the Ponzi and establishing a strategy of proven Store of Value Reserves, the difference would be exponential. THAT is preserving wealth. And any action on this proven and effective strategy of wealth accumulation and projection should be done under a microscope. (In a transparent, responsible and decentralized structure, of course ... that today is far from being the case).


Finally, only to point out that a group that has accepted the foolishness without the slightest foundation designed by RTaylor as an attempt to consolidate DASH as a Store of value and has followed its promoter in a single file and with arms crossed, will hardly consider a reset now on accepted decision. I repeat, just accepted. To put it mildly ... and no matter how much damage that decision causes to the project in general and by extension, to their own positions. But we already know the criteria that can be expected from the Mnodes network, these years of ravings have made it very clear. Unfortunately.

Beyond that, you do not refer to the absolutely indispensable decentralization of the project. And without that ... it won't work. It will be just a new inbred exercise in centralized and interventionist parasitism to perpetuate an ineffective structure ... and that, in crypto, is the shortest path to Darwinism (in the case of DASH, to the continuation-aggravation of the disaster we already see) .

The key that can open ALL the doors in DASH (which already has powerful resources today, but which are minimized / nullified by a centralization that distorts everything) is the DECENTRALIZATION of governance. Without that, the  ex-wall street "harmless" kid will go on with his particular roadmap while their future slaughtered sheeps stupidly blow his sails.

Imo, the solution must be alien to the current corrupt and ineffective structure. So ineffective that not only does it not generate leadership or talent ... but it has been expelling them for years. I even think of a continuity in DASH, but MODULAR enough to survive and grow within the project, independent of the shenanigans of the DAO hijackers.

It is possible to grow and set an example with facts. And whoever doesn't like it, screw himself. You just have to want to optimize DASH. Have that sincere motivation ... and let that, by sheer extension, pay off. It is perfectly possible.

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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December 13, 2020, 01:01:01 PM
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Dash Platform & DashPay will be hitting Dash Testnet later this month, and have a targetdate of Q1, 2021 for Dash Mainnet.


Again? You said that yesterday, Santa Claus. You are missing the "HO-HO-HOOO !!!"   Grin

Do you know who is going to sell that donkey to exhaustion? The same necessary info-bought intoxicants painting DASH in a world of Candy and Rainbows as Evolution's breach gobbled up tons of dollars while naive people to bankruptcy with a 4-figure token.

Where the hell have you been every fucking day of the years of delay, lies, wealth destruction and public scam? ... ah, sure ... parasitizing and deceiving.

And I tell you something else: DASH remains centralized and will continue with its "chair game" tending towards hyper concentration: Every day LESS parasites of monetary issues. Those with three or four Mnodes may be applying the vaseline to their ass.  Wink

By the way, there was already circulating by discord - scammers are so idiots that you think that your arrogant and criminal shit in discord only read it yourselves  -, in the mouth of the most idiotic and indiscreet scammers, plans "in the name of the DAO" to deliberately ruin to miners and buy back their equipment at a gift price and with the common funds of the DAO. Common treasure ... to rob elements of the system that you want to eliminate after taking advantage of their capital and / or work ... absolutely worthy of criminal sanctions.

Well ... change "miners that charge" for "Mnodes that charge" ... and "Treasure hijacked by the Mnodes network" for "Treasure hijacked by MOST VOTE of the Mnodes network" - including the thousands of votes of whales that wait their moment, quiet ... while the little thieves do your crap - ... and you will see how funny it is to the vast majority of corrupt scammers who believe that your centralization of thief ants is the final one.

Anyway, Santa ... now, the "HO-HO-HO-HOOO !!! Christmas, I'm going to be the one to put it  Grin Grin Grin ... you guys ,keep uploading colorful charts and wonderful futures and sucking two-digit DASH rewards . Little else will they allow you.

HO-HO-HO-HOOO !!!

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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The preservation of wealth is not inherent to mining

Come back and assert that when you've managed to generate a bitcoin on your home PC.
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The preservation of wealth is not inherent to mining

Come back and assert that when you've managed to generate a bitcoin on your home PC.



That is as easy as directly backing a token that IS generated with a PC  with Bitcoins Reserves ... I explained it to you dozens of posts ago. Afbitcoins explained it to you yesterday with the Gold of the Central Banks and you don't seem to know either. The Reserves transcend saving: They are a standard foreign to the main financial system and that is precisely its qualitative advantage , let's see if you find out the fucking time. ( By the way ... if it hasn't been done in DASH for years, it's possibly because you don't want to beat and win BTC. There is no other explanation with people "supposedly formed" on Wall Street in the front line of an economic project... as I have no other explanation about the Tokenomics or whatever the shit that RTaylor released a year ago is called is just smoke and distraction).

Change the "altruistic" chip of your "essential mining as store of value", that argument is a thousand times proven invalid - and it was already very clear why you needed it or stimulated that line of opinion - ... and if it is your intention, contribute to improve DASH. I post to optimize DASH, not for personal arrogance or trolling. I don't give up my fucking time for that.

You're smart. You choose. Do you help DASH ... or do you prefer this corrupt shit?

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*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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Masternodes are hilarious. It costs an exchange next to nothing to run masternodes utilizing customer coins and can dump at almost any price.
Satoshi (whoever) know more than a century ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57.msg415#msg415
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Later years still eons away

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Masternodes are hilarious. It costs an exchange next to nothing to run masternodes utilizing customer coins and can dump at almost any price.
Satoshi (whoever) know more than a century ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57.msg415#msg415
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"the price of any commodity tends to gravitate toward the production cost" and "in later years, when new coin generation is a small percentage of the existing supply, market price will dictate the cost of production more than the other way around".

Later years still eons away

Masternodes are enabling what Bitcoin and other crypto projects can't : to provide instant settlement of transactions, to provide protection against double spending and be more secure then Bitcoin. Masternodes are also the reason why Dash network can not be 51% attacked through proof of work. I will choose masternodes (Dash) and its fast transactions and its on-chain upscaling option (blocksize increase) and its low transaction fees over Bitcoin or similar crypto projects any day, regardless of 'production cost'. Simply because i value those features.

Also if exchanges run masternodes utilizing customer coins and can dump at almost any time, then why is our number of active masternodes over time not showing any of this ?
Looks more like wishfull thinking from your side.


Source : http://178.254.23.111/~pub/masternode_count.png

Reminds me of Dash early years, when we had trolls like iCEBREAKER, who was convinced that masternodes would be dumped on the open market and totally crash the Dash market.
It did not happen then and it is not happening now. If an exchange is indeed running masternodes, i find it more likely that they want to be invested in Dash longterm and keep its market healthy.

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I will choose masternodes (Dash) and its fast transactions and its on-chain upscaling option (blocksize increase) and its low transaction fees over Bitcoin or similar crypto projects any day.

Choosing a great transacting medium and a great investing medium are not necessarily the same thing - unless they are explicitly made so.



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Choosing a great transacting medium and a great investing medium are not necessarily the same thing - unless they are explicitly made so.





In fact, they are contradictory.

Economic "crises" (necessary collapses of fiat monetary-credit expansion cycles ) corrupt the currency and therefore impoverish savers - conservatives - as well, not just debtors - consumers - .

The ideal is to detach the reserve of value from any monetary link and any monetary payement system of an expressly savings asset. As does the CURRENT  Freegold since 76 (a fact generally ignored, but more important than the closing of the Nixon'71 Gold window - The mainstream stupidly believes that the disunity of the Gold monetary system is a symptom of weakness ... that is why it is not explained that central banks have Reserves in a floating asset that has been x60 since its supposed marginalization ... and that, however, Basilea III already openly considers Tier1-).
...Anyway...those two monetary properties can only be optimized by separating them.

That is why BTC denies being a means of payment ... it is not just a technological issue. Those two monetary qualities (rigor vs. flexibility) counteract each other. And BTC chose a very good shortcut to monopolize the crypto standard. In this ASSUMED process of consolidation as a store of value standard - conceptually and commercially, "Digital Gold" - the cheap DASH gurus have been stupidly selling us that DASH is better than BTC because it is faster and closer to the approaches of Satoshi and blablabla... when its strategic move was absolutely obvious. The speech changed during the alleged threat to BTC of spring 2017. Although everyone associated it with "technological conservatism" it was a full-fledged declaration of principles and in the most maximalist discourse it was perfectly appreciated.

And for that reason, a means of payment like DASH must base its quality as a store of value on assets other than its main currency  and not to create "cheap" money (a fear of yours, as I have ever read you ...and i´m totally agree) .

The official DASH twist that could be seen perfectly in messages from the corrupt intoxicant Valenzuela will do about a year and a half - writing to dictation, of course ... that ignorant does not know where his ass is and where his mouth is - going from "HODL!" libertarian with raised demagogic fist graphics... to "DASH is TO SPEND ... if not, it's worth nothing." And that is a big mistake - because it devalues ​​the main asset on which the savings are executed and, indeed, can only create satisfactory returns with totally unbalanced incentives that keep a precarious structure in place, more unbalanced the more competitive the payement currency is -.

I think I know where they will lead that imbalance in the future, it is quite logical. But that is another question. By now, I suppose they've been loading BTC like crazy for YEARS and distracting naive Mnodes who think they are too smart ... and actually, they don't know how to protect their patrimony.

And it is that really what DASH holders should do, the more tokens they have, all the more reason ... is to consolidate DASH as a store of value. Which is exactly what they will NOT do with the antics proposed by Ryan Taylor (I highly doubt that with good intention - and, of course and of this without any doubt , not with the intention that he declares publicly -)

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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...

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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Ah!...I had not read the ridiculous baits that accompanied the graph of the fallacious "decentralization in thousands of points" with which DASH has been fooling the naive since the beginning of the project (and obviously wants to keep doing it).




Masternodes are enabling what Bitcoin and other crypto projects can't : to provide instant settlement of transactions, to provide protection against double spending and be more secure then Bitcoin. Masternodes are also the reason why Dash network can not be 51% attacked through proof of work. I will choose masternodes (Dash) and its fast transactions and its on-chain upscaling option (blocksize increase) and its low transaction fees over Bitcoin or similar crypto projects any day, regardless of 'production cost'. Simply because i value those features.

- A lier or simply a cocky ignorant : Thousands of other projects have thousands of characteristics ... which does not mean that they break the market with respect to the rest ... and worse, that they break the monetary STANDARD of BTC, an authentic tsunami of speculative capital at this point, which conditions ABSOLUTELY ALL THE WEALTH OF THE SECTOR sinking or projecting any project choosed for it. By the way ... the thieving Mnodes disguise your private assaults on the Common Treasury as attempts to consolidate a store of value , does not face the problem ... it is just another example of the infamous confusion of your corrupt show.




Also if exchanges run masternodes utilizing customer coins and can dump at almost any time, then why is our number of active masternodes over time not showing any of this ?
Looks more like wishfull thinking from your side.

- There are a thousand resources in a currency with huge distribution imbalances since its initial irregular distribution to camouflage statistics, even more so with an unreal and fallacious spectrum of decentralization points (the 5000 Mnodes are just a couple of hundred decentralized points, although you continually expose this figure as a reference for the decentralization of the network to deceive newcomers whose capital you want to parasitize). Of the transactions at minimum cost, perfect for making artificial movements with which to justify almost any level of activity or other tricks, we better not even talk ... it is a waste of time ...





Reminds me of Dash early years, when we had trolls like iCEBREAKER, who was convinced that masternodes would be dumped on the open market and totally crash the Dash market.
It did not happen then and it is not happening now.

- This is a perfect sample of the inbreeding of these immoral scammers and how it affects their minds regarding the most basic reasoning.
If someone is convinced of a theory, IT IS NOT A TROLL. It will be in any case, a wrong dissident. That belief is the basis of the authentic censorship that you have created in DASH against any dissent, even with common funds directed against legitimate opinions of the real community that you have marginalized, blocked and robbed.

Those who are immoral garbage - and imo, ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL - are those who know objective dangers of the project (unbalanced emissions, huge concentrations of tokens that centralize and corrupt the model, breaches such as Evolution's, which will lock up and block the holders during bear market years) ... but they distort and hide the inside information they gain from their privileged position in a ponzi hierarchy, preach contrary perspectives to those certainties, and encourage investment doomed to the failure of their capital contributors.

That's the scam you carry out at DASH, you scoundrels.








If an exchange is indeed running masternodes, i find it more likely that they want to be invested in Dash longterm and keep its market healthy.


- Keep its market healthy? its wealth ?  DASH? Burning a cap of almost 13 billion to a ridiculous 300 million? - 500 still today, when many projects have already increased their cap from the ground FOUR, FIVE,SIX TIMES - What is the profile of your potential investor? The severely retarded?

Any long-term investment in DASH is reckless as long as the project does not face the monetary standard of BTC in the sector ... a BTC with an increasingly monstrous capital compared to other projects and therefore, with more capacity for speculative movements about open-traded currencies that BTC wipes its ass with whenever it wants.

You are so idiotic that in almost seven years you don't even have a minimally reasonable approach against such an influential conditioner, which is the day-to-day of crypto volatility. Maybe you are too busy cheating and stealing and your mononeural limitation is not enough for you to do two things at the same time.

Summing up: Only with the three basic cryptocurrency principles

1-Decentralization
2- Financial freedom
3- Resistance to censorship.

... we have in DASH a real sanctuary from manipulation and foul play:

1- A few hundred owners of ALL Mnodes controlling the chain and constantly emptying their wealth, as a few naive ones contribute their capital.
2- a joke value reserve, with 98% roller coasters, a pure investment casino at the height not of cutting-edge projects, but of the worst shitcoins.
3- a corrupt system of information control and intoxication (to scam) and persecution of dissidents ( to marginalize and silence) ...really incredible.






Anyway ... less cheat and more optimize the jewel you received from Duffield.



 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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What determines the value of Dash, drives demand and ultimately leads to an appreciating price (or store of value)?

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Pornhub's Premium Services Now Default to Crypto Payments, 13 Digital Assets Supported (incl Dash)

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December 15, 2020, 08:05:15 AM

Dash Electrum 4.0.4.1. released !
This is a major upgrade.  BACKUP YOUR WALLETS before updating.

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https://github.com/akhavr/electrum-dash/releases or via Ubuntu PPA
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December 15, 2020, 12:34:05 PM

is there any pool for dash masternodes? its so expensive to open a full node. maybe there is something like shared mastednode. who can help me?

https://crowdnode.io/
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is there any pool for dash masternodes? its so expensive to open a full node. maybe there is something like shared mastednode. who can help me?

https://crowdnode.io/

Or you can check Dash staking on Binance : https://www.binance.com/en/pos (this is the international Binance, not Binance.US !!)
Just remember to divide the percentage for each specific duration, as Binance uses an annual percentage.

30 days : 7.39% / 12 --> 0,61583% per 1 month
60 days : 9.11% / 6   --> 1,51833% per 2 months
90 days : 11.03% / 4 --> 2,7575% per 3 months

Min deposit 1 Dash (?)
Max deposit 500 Dash (?)  

* you need to verify above information yourself, as this could be subject to change at any time or i could simply be wrong about this
* these durations (30 days / 60 days / 90 days) can be filled up / sold out on Binance pretty quickly
* be aware you are taking a risk by leaving your coins for a certain period of time on a centralized exchange (it is not in any way a trustless service)
* i would not recommend using Binance.US for Dash staking at this point, they seem to have a more cumbersome proces in place towards its (US) users

Lets do a comparison between Dash Shared Masternodes services annual revenue percentage (calculated in Dash rewards), versus Binance Dash Staking annual revenue (calculated in Dash rewards) just for fun.
Lets use 250 Dash in our example as Dash collateral and lets use Dash annual revenue of 5.67%, versus Binance annual revenue % as mentioned above (7.39% / 9.11% / 11.03%)

Source of Dash annual revenue % : https://dash-news.de/dashtv/#curr=USD&value=250 (most Dash shared masternode services seem to base their annual revenue on that 5.67%)
Source of Dash shared services annual revenue % : https://www.stakingrewards.com/earn/dash/providers
Source of Binance annual revenue % for Dash staking : https://www.binance.com/en/pos

What this manually created chart of mine is showing (and i hope i am doing this correctly), is the expected Dash shared masternode rewards in Dash versus Binance Dash staking rewards in Dash
on a collateral of 250 Dash.



Data used in chart :

Dash

5.67% annual / 12 = 0,4725% per 30 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 1.18125 Dash per 30 days

Binance

7.39% annual / 12 = 0,6158% per 30 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 1.53958 Dash per 30 days

Dash

5.67% annual / 6 = 0,945% per 60 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 2.3625 Dash per 60 days

Binance

9.11% annual / 6 = 1,5183 per 60 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 3.79583 Dash per 60 days

Dash

5.67% annual / 4 = 1,4175% per 90 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 3.54375 Dash per 90 days

Binance

11.03% annual / 4 = 2.7575 per 90 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 6.89375 Dash per 90 days


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is there any pool for dash masternodes? its so expensive to open a full node. maybe there is something like shared mastednode. who can help me?

https://crowdnode.io/

Or you can check Dash staking on Binance : https://www.binance.com/en/pos (this is the international Binance, not Binance.US !!)
Just remember to divide the percentage for each specific duration, as Binance uses an annual percentage.

30 days : 7.39% / 12 --> 0,61583% per 1 month
60 days : 9.11% / 6   --> 1,51833% per 2 months
90 days : 11.03% / 4 --> 2,7575% per 3 months

Min deposit 1 Dash (?)
Max deposit 500 Dash (?)  

* you need to verify above information yourself, as this could be subject to change at any time or i could simply be wrong about this
* these durations (30 days / 60 days / 90 days) can be filled up / sold out on Binance pretty quickly
* be aware you are taking a risk by leaving your coins for a certain period of time on a centralized exchange (it is not in any way a trustless service)
* i would not recommend using Binance.US for Dash staking at this point, they seem to have a more cumbersome proces in place towards its (US) users

Lets do a comparison between Dash Shared Masternodes services annual revenue percentage (calculated in Dash rewards), versus Binance Dash Staking annual revenue (calculated in Dash rewards) just for fun.
Lets use 250 Dash in our example as Dash collateral and lets use Dash annual revenue of 5.67%, versus Binance annual revenue % as mentioned above (7.39% / 9.11% /11.03%)

Source of Dash annual revenue % : https://dash-news.de/dashtv/#curr=USD&value=1000 (most Dash shared masternode services seem to base their annual revenue on that 5.67%)
Source of Dash shared services annual revenue % being mostly at 5.67% : https://www.stakingrewards.com/earn/dash/providers
Source of Binance annual revenue % : https://www.binance.com/en/pos

What this manually created chart of mine is showing (and i hope i am doing this correctly), is the expected Dash shared masternode rewards in Dash versus Binance Dash staking rewards in Dash.



Data used in chart :

Dash

5.67% annual / 12 = 0,4725% per 30 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 1.18125 Dash per 30 days

Binance

7.39% annual / 12 = 0,6158% per 30 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 1.53958 Dash per 30 days

Dash

5.67% annual / 6 = 0,945% per 60 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 2.3625 Dash per 60 days

Binance

9.11% annual / 6 = 1,5183 per 60 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 3.79583 Dash per 60 days

Dash

5.67% annual / 4 = 1,4175% per 90 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 3.54375 Dash per 90 days

Binance

11.03% annual / 4 = 2.7575 per 90 days x 250 Dash / 100 = 6.89375 Dash per 90 days



is binance a good excahne that we can trust a bit?

I used cryptsy before and after that I used poloniex and I was the lucky ones that hear problems about cryptsy from this forum and transfered my dash over poloniex in time.
Now I had to spend most of my dash, I have a nice motorbike and a nice laptop and other stuff, now I have only 5 dash left and I hodl them since 2014. I keep them on dash liux desktop wallet but if 5 dash is enogh for staking it's better than sitting on my computer.

Before, I used moocowmoo's shared masternode services with 25 dash and it was good and when I needed tsome money it was just an automatic with only a mail that time.

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Last edit: December 15, 2020, 04:29:36 PM by qwizzie

is binance a good excahne that we can trust a bit?

I used cryptsy before and after that I used poloniex and I was the lucky ones that hear problems about cryptsy from this forum and transfered my dash over poloniex in time.
Now I had to spend most of my dash, I have a nice motorbike and a nice laptop and other stuff, now I have only 5 dash left and I hodl them since 2014. I keep them on dash liux desktop wallet but if 5 dash is enogh for staking it's better than sitting on my computer.

Before, I used moocowmoo's shared masternode services with 25 dash and it was good and when I needed tsome money it was just an automatic with only a mail that time.

So far i have not heard anything negative about Binance (the international exchange, not the US exchange).
I staked some Dash there as expirement and the return pretty much matched with what i expected to receive for staking Dash 30 days.

Only disadvantage is that some of these duration periods (90 days for example) get filled up / sold out pretty fast on Binance and your subscription on a certain duration don't get automatically renewed.
Once it expires, you will need to manually enter into a new subscription for a certain duration period (which could be sold out at that point)

With shared masternodes services you will always have a spot and can just set it up and forget about it.


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