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December 07, 2020, 12:45:27 PM


Please stop trying to deflect statements that are academically self evident...


Please close your fallacious pie hole, Tok.  How then do explain that a whopping 1144 Masternodes voted in favour of of the mining reallocation back in July DAO poll and a pitful 91 masternodes (I assume these are run by you and afbitcoins and the rest by miners) voted no on the poll?

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  https://mnowatch.org/the_results_dashd_2020-07-27-02-15-58.uniqueHashVotes.336.html

Please, just please stop trying to pull the wool over our heads, it only makes you look more foolish.
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December 07, 2020, 01:08:07 PM


"fallacious pie-hole"
 Cheesy

That's a new one. I must be making progress.

Remember to keep not addressing the case that...

The Dash protocol is documented as exposing a proportion of its new supply to competitive mining. The rest is effectively "mined" at zero difficulty.

It therefore follows that various options are available to miners who want to "game" these protocol properties. A quantified example is given here.

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December 07, 2020, 01:29:57 PM


Remember to keep not addressing the case that...


and remember to keep lying, your assumption that miners run masternodes is FALSE, you don't even deny it now, if there were a shred of truth to it the voting data would have shown the miners voted against the reallocation proposal and they didn't.
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December 07, 2020, 01:37:21 PM
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Your assumption that miners run masternodes is FALSE

I think the fact that you rely on this as your only line of defending the merits of the protocol allocation is very telling.

"The protocol favours hybrid mining but it's ok because nobody's doing it because I say they aren't".

That's basically what will be read into your line of argument by unconflicted observers. Not very convincing IMO. Also your logic is inverted in your last post. Hybrid mining INCENTIVISES miners to vote for the re-allocation proposal, so their endorsement of it supports the argument I'm making, not your's.
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December 07, 2020, 02:03:07 PM
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Let toknormal be in his own little world, where all miners also operate masternodes  Roll Eyes

For him this is likely used as a means to not loosing face over his previous assumption, that once this blockreward reallocation change is implemented, the miners will stop mining Dash.
He can now 'claim' all miners also operate masternodes and that any lost in miners income, is overcome by the revenue of the masternodes they 'supposedly operate'.

Ludicrous if you think about it, he lost face many months ago with little chance of redememption. But lets give him a bonus point for trying.

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December 07, 2020, 02:13:02 PM


his previous assumption, that once this blockreward reallocation change is implemented, the miners will stop mining Dash and the Dash hashrate will collapse. even less of the supply would be exposed to competitive mining and more of it directed to non-performing masternode operating margins

FIFY.
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December 07, 2020, 02:17:57 PM

Yeah, my head is spinning from all these 180s, I wish we could make up our minds as to what the 'self evident facts' are, sheesh!  Huh Huh Huh
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December 08, 2020, 10:23:32 AM

The fastest way to loose money is to listen to toknormal.
That gave me an idea for my forum signature....

PS: loose is actually “lose”. Don't write “lose” like our friend Toknormal (unless it's an intentional way to hint at him in your signature…  Wink ).
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December 08, 2020, 12:37:17 PM

The fastest way to loose money is to listen to toknormal.
That gave me an idea for my forum signature....

PS: loose is actually “lose”. Don't write “lose” like our friend Toknormal (unless it's an intentional way to hint at him in your signature…  Wink ).

Thank you for the correction.

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December 08, 2020, 04:27:24 PM


I have asked several posts ago for an explanation about what would be the limitations of a DASH fork - or if open source really allows us to evolve from the point that is considered appropriate - which seems a bit naive, even more after having read in it past that DCG registered some patent, etc -.

I do it again. Any information will be welcome.

Thank you.

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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December 10, 2020, 01:18:42 AM

What exactly is staking and what kind of staking opportunities are available today? 🤔

This is the first release of the Dash FastPass Education Series, every piece is drafted in coordination with our FastPass Partners.

https://www.dash.org/2020/12/03/staking-to-make-a-profit/

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December 10, 2020, 01:53:22 AM

What exactly is staking and what kind of staking opportunities are available today? 🤔

This is the first release of the Dash FastPass Education Series, every piece is drafted in coordination with our FastPass Partners.

https://www.dash.org/2020/12/03/staking-to-make-a-profit/



Trust your tokens to any shitty exchange = "Crypto Education" according to guru Mason, chapter 25 verse 12.

A clown worthy of a podium on which it is impossible to know if he is missing neurons ... scruples ... or both.

Mamma mía !...They almost miss his childish roller coasters or his colorful glitter glasses when he gets ceremonious. This guy deserves to be exhibited in a museum ... someone make a proposal, please !!!

DASH crypto revolution: Deliver your DASH !!!   Cheesy Roll Eyes

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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We're happy to announce that Flyp.me now supports Dash InstantSend. 🌐⚡🚀

Immense !
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December 11, 2020, 08:14:58 PM

Dash was once 1000$+, now it’s 80 bucks.
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December 12, 2020, 06:26:34 AM

Dash was once 1000$+, now it’s 80 bucks.
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Yeah, amazing ain't it.  So, we know DASH was $1000 and can reach that again, then maybe buy DASH now for possible 10x pump?  Or buy bitcoin top?
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Dash was once 1000$+, now it’s 80 bucks.
 Huh

Yeah, amazing ain't it.  So, we know DASH was $1000 and can reach that again, then maybe buy DASH now for possible 10x pump?  Or buy bitcoin top?

In some ways Dash seems to mimic some of Bitcoin earlier price movements. I remember Bitcoin breaking into the $1000 range, ultimately reaching $1,140 before falling back to $150.
Dash reached  $1500, before falling back to $40 and is now accumulating / stabilizing at around $90-$100. The '% decrease' was a bit higher with Dash (-97,3%), then with Bitcoin (-87%).
Price recovery (# of months / years to new ATH) just seems to take longer with Dash / Altcoins in general and looks to be more volatile.


Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/a4yrux/bitcoin_is_a_game_of_accumulation/

Bitcoin has established a new ATH of $19,918 on Bitstamp on December 1, 2020. Which means it took Bitcoin pretty close to three years to establish a slightly higher new ATH.
Of course there are exchanges and sites like coinmarketcap that use a higher ATH for Bitcoin ($20,089 on Dec 17, 2017).



Which means that for those sites, Bitcoin price still has not established a new ATH.
Source : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/

 

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December 12, 2020, 10:17:49 AM
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Dash was once 1000$+, now it’s 80 bucks.
 Huh

Yeah, amazing ain't it.  So, we know DASH was $1000 and can reach that again, then maybe buy DASH now for possible 10x pump?  Or buy bitcoin top?

Now?  Shocked LOL  Grin Grin Grin

Noooo ... we already bought BTC when we saw that you included Shared Mnodes in your long list of defaults and delays and you manipulated a project that aspired to be MASSIVE AND OPEN (many thousands, tens of thousands of deceived, unfortunately, they trusted your commitment and You've been eating his money for six years). Those bitcoins today would be multiplied by dozens of DASH ... but ... who returns them now to this centralized scam that you distribute four savvy ones with little shame and a lot of tongue?

And of course, institutional money that is pouring into BTC knows that it can qualify for reasonable proportionality as a comunity member, nor less, nor more. You think they are retarded and they are going to put millions of bucks from a pension fund ... so that you ,cocky little fish, can take a direct bite out to your pocket? (The answer is easy: DASH ... less than 100 bucks. Keep waiting and uploading colored rockets to Twitter... while any fifth division shitcoin  overtakes in the ranking like a meteorite the technological jewel you have hijacked , distorted and minimized).

The thing is that now DASH has no community ... only 200 scammers owning 5000 Mnodes controlling a ponzi whose wealth you drain from the Mnodes rewards - or , dont talk only about BTC , why do you think DASH lost 1: 1 with ETH, but also sank in front of to so many other currencies that people do want to adopt? Easy: Because in any project they share the prosperity that is generated with their contribution and in DASH, four manipulators appropriate it and send it to your pockets. These "little fish ", as you call them arrogantly when you show your true face like a fool, they were idiots, pushed aside, blocked and scammed, ok ... but do you think they are SO idiots? Because maybe the one who has been too clever, is you and your band of friends.

So don't disguise your speech from a couple of pages back ... and start looking for those rich people you need to scam ... But One by one, eh? ... because the massive network effect fundamental to consolidating a currency disappears with the well-deserved reputation of manipulation and scam that you have managed to associate DASH as a brand with your funny tricks from minute 1 - by the way, Duffield has already donated to the "community" the almost 300 Mnodes promised by the original unbalanced cast? (Attention to the "rich" willing to put 6 figures in this joke: Although this will hide new "investors" who will only know once inside , DASH decisions are made by ONE THOUSAND votes only, even less... but there are owners with HUNDREDs of votes ... the 5000 Mnodes are an optical illusion and at any time They can throw away, for example, that the owners of 1, 2 ... or 5 Mnodes do not vote ... or do not charge rewards.ANY TRICK THAT COMES ON AND IS VOTED BY A CONTROLLED AND MANIPULATED SYSTEM. Nice joke, eh? ...Send 100,000 dollars to DASH !!! NOW !!! ) :

- Real community: Adoption in geometric progression. With motivation, proportionality and respect.
- Elitist Ponzi: Adoption in arithmetic progression. With deceptions that need to be worked, objective by objective.

DASH was guaranteed almost unstoppable growth with its original approach ... you just have to look back a few years ... but now, for being immoral and deceitful and turning this blockchain gem into centralized garbage for the benefit of 200 smart pockets *: then , step by step looking for naive people who do not understand that they give away their money to a group that can invent new rules in two days, marginalizing them from the millionaire distribution that you promise ... as you have already done in full view of the public with miners and micro-holders , with whose money you pay the structure of this scam and fill your wallets.

But, well ... Cheer up with that "door to door"! ... Every day a fool wakes up...and drop by drop a lake fills.


* look, you have achieved a milestone in the sector. In front of smart contracts of ETH, you can patent the "smart pockets" of DASH. Each with its own style.  Wink

 DASH IS THE VACCINE AGAINST THE NAKAMOTO´S CANNIBALISM* ( and its extractive virus, BTC ) 

*Parasitic growth system based on the transfer of wealth through speculative bubbles (the same old scam of the fiat global elite ...in a new format)

https://discord.com/channels/370148711088652288/660351836292775936/773522887616757770
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December 12, 2020, 10:31:10 AM

How to get that bird off the wire ?  Undecided



Oh darn.

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