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June 04, 2014, 11:04:18 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2014, 11:17:37 AM by raganius
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anyone here experience same problem ?  

I have never had any problems with Cryptsy. People love spreading fear all around just for the sake of fun.

The market in general is so simple: loyalty = reputation - If you don't trust it, just don't deal with it.

Spreading fear is not the best of the practices, actually it's very disloyal. In the long run, FUD spreaders always loose in reputation.
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June 04, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
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You guys might want to get out of cryptsy: http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/27907i/cryptsy/

anyone here experience same problem ? 

No, but I think there may be something much more sinister behind all the "being hacked" stories.
I think they have been short selling against their customers and got squeezed.

Just a gut feeling, though.

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June 04, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
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anyone here experience same problem ?  

No, but I think there may be something much more sinister behind all the "being hacked" stories.
I think they have been short selling against their customers and got squeezed.

Just a gut feeling, though.

Yes, I agree that being hacked IS something that an exchange cannot afford. They MUST take every single measure to be protected. Still, it's possible to happen for it's a business risk. Now the difference is: a good, serious exchange will never have this business risk affect it's clients lest loosing reputation. In the maket, no reputation means no deals.
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June 04, 2014, 11:33:33 AM
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anyone here experience same problem ?  

No, but I think there may be something much more sinister behind all the "being hacked" stories.
I think they have been short selling against their customers and got squeezed.

Just a gut feeling, though.

Yes, I agree that being hacked IS something that an exchange cannot afford. They MUST take every single measure to be protected. Still, it's possible to happen for it's a business risk. Now the difference is: a good, serious exchange will never have this business risk affect it's clients lest loosing reputation. In the maket, no reputation means no deals.

Well this is some FUD, isn't it?
Go spread it, like they spread their FUD about DRK.

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June 04, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
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Some thoughts.

--No need to rush open sourcing ANYTHING that adds value to Dark over the competition.  Just a not very smart idea to rush out any open source before Dark is the undisputed "PERMANENT" king of anon crypto.

--There is a need to solidify Darkcoin as the first functioning in the real world private transaction coin.  First it was AC, now it is CRY that is charging hard to steal Dark's thunder.  Let's get this all rolled out and working and have the crypto world begin using Darksends everywhere so Dark is the fully established leader.  Many others are right on our heels, so don't think the enormous confidence the investment community has provided Dark is guaranteed to be permanent.  We need a fully functioning anonymous system now.  The threat that these other coins bring is very real.  When they pump, Dark goes down because its money moving out of Dark.

-- Let's shutdown all these up and comers by making Dark work for everyone as soon as possible.  Once you can do it all with Dark, there is far less desire and a need for other devs to make their coin anonymous.  Dark really needs to finish ASAP so it can become the coca-cola of crypto where they can never be knocked down.


agree with most of it

time is very important now

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June 04, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

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June 04, 2014, 11:52:05 AM
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

And probably that's why he mined a shitload of it for himself but didn't randomly gave his coins away. Grin
I think it's 50/50 if he plans to spend some (if not all) of that later or destroyed the private keys already. We don't know.
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June 04, 2014, 11:58:43 AM
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

And probably that's why he mined a shitload of it for himself but didn't randomly gave his coins away. Grin
I think it's 50/50 if he plans to spend some (if not all) of that later or destroyed the private keys already. We don't know.

He didn't really mined by himself , there were few people who also mined a few blocks but at that time not many bothered with his project and many called it stupid.
He had no other way of keeping the coin alive but mining it....

He didn't instamine , he didn't sell the coin in an ipo
If he is still alive I doubt he still has access to all those coins.

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June 04, 2014, 12:02:27 PM
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

And probably that's why he mined a shitload of it for himself but didn't randomly gave his coins away. Grin
I think it's 50/50 if he plans to spend some (if not all) of that later or destroyed the private keys already. We don't know.

He didn't really mined by himself , there were few people who also mined a few blocks but at that time not many bothered with his project and many called it stupid.
He had no other way of keeping the coin alive but mining it....

He didn't instamine , he didn't sell the coin in an ipo
If he is still alive I doubt he still has access to all those coins.

I also believe he has lost the private keys. At that time he was aimed at the project, not at profits.
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June 04, 2014, 12:06:22 PM
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Another ANON coin declared SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638620.0


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June 04, 2014, 12:11:06 PM
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Another ANON coin declared SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638620.0



I never heard of this coin , did it ever make it to any exchange?
And what the hell has this coin to do with darkcoin?

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June 04, 2014, 12:11:54 PM
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

And probably that's why he mined a shitload of it for himself but didn't randomly gave his coins away. Grin
I think it's 50/50 if he plans to spend some (if not all) of that later or destroyed the private keys already. We don't know.

He didn't really mined by himself , there were few people who also mined a few blocks but at that time not many bothered with his project and many called it stupid.
He had no other way of keeping the coin alive but mining it....

He didn't instamine , he didn't sell the coin in an ipo
If he is still alive I doubt he still has access to all those coins.

I consider it as a possibility that Satoshi destroyed the private keys (for example, he never stored them but used them from volatile memory just for the sake of mining and never cared keeping the coins) but not that he gave them away or sold them for fiat. If he sold them then at least a few of those coins would already be in circulation rather than laying around, unless he sold them all at once to an entity which is really serious about holding them as is, in which case it doesn't really matter how we call that entity, Satoshi or Matoshi, etc (it's the same thing because neither of them are known to us).

But this speculation doesn't really matter. Since we have no proof that those coins are lost forever, they have to be considered accessible.
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June 04, 2014, 12:18:09 PM
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Another ANON coin declared SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638620.0



I never heard of this coin , did it ever make it to any exchange?
And what the hell has this coin to do with darkcoin?

Yeah, just went through the thread Hilarious.

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-VOOT

Someone made a cool 50 btc.

Edit: Markets still running lol
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Was Bitcoin at any stage, any part of it closed source? No of course not. Anonymous closed source what a joke.

The crypto landscape these days is completely different than it was back then when Bitcoin was being developed. Satoshi didn't have to worry about competition. If DarkSend was open source from the start, we would have at least 20 shitcoins using "DarkSend", just copy-pasting release candidate versions and gullible people investing and losing their money in their scams.

And if you bothered to read the answer, the DarkSend part will be open source when it's matured enough. It's still in release candidate phase after all. This will happen in few weeks time. Until then, you don't have to use the DarkSend part at all.


Bitcoin is a million times more technologically advanced that Darkcoin ever will be after all its just a copy/paste of the original.

I guess this was your attempt of a joke?

Please don't bring satoshi in this mess...

The guy couldn't care less about competition , he had little interest if no interest in the value
He just cared about his project and what could bitcoin bring new to the world.

He probably was the only true idealist in the crypto world.

Let me explain what I meant, I admit I kinda hid it in between the lines there.

I did not mean to say that Satoshi was greedy, no. And I didn't mean that we are only greedy for not wanting competition to implement release candidate versions of DarkSend.

Imagine DarkSend source being open from the RC1. There would already be coins that had copy-pasted the RC1 code and their devs and supporters hyping it up, and people throwing their monies into it. And some or even most of those coins would've already ran into a lot of problems because they couldn't have been able to keep up with the constant development speed by Darkcoin team, and finally abandoned because they couldn't copy-paste masternodes or whatever functionality or solve unwanted forks correctly without breaking their own coin and people losing their monies. After all this mess, who would they blame? Well Darkcoin of course. Even though the real reason would've been their own greed and inability to cope with non-finalized release candidate level source.
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June 04, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
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Another ANON coin declared SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638620.0



I never heard of this coin , did it ever make it to any exchange?
And what the hell has this coin to do with darkcoin?

Yeah, just went through the thread Hilarious.

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-VOOT

Someone made a cool 50 btc.

Edit: Markets still running lol

This is kind of why I started mining dark in the first place. In a sea of shitcoins and scams that are mined and dumped DRK was a beacon with a stable price. Even now when it's not rocketing up its rumbling along. nicely.
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Hi all

Could someone please put my mind to rest. I downloaded darkcoin balance on my android phone and typed my wallet address in and its showing 247 coins out of over 1000 coins . All coins showing in my waalet ok . I know the darkcoin explorer not working at the moment just a bit concerned I have lost them with all the forks that's happened. Is there any way I can double check to see if they are there.

Thanks all great work loving this coin

Your wallet is actually made up of many addresses.¨

Read this thread for an explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144554.0

Thank you. Was starting to get a bit worried for a minute. Can't believe those fuders. No one getting my coins they are not going no where lol. Thanks all for setting my mind to rest.  Hope all goes well

Thanks all. For those who are intrested in the darkcoin balance app for android and are having the same trouble I found Why does my balance in Darkcoin Balance look lower than the balance shown in my wallet?

Darkcoin Balance examines the literal addresses you enter and reports the balances from theblockchain explorer. However, I have found that if I send coins from my QT wallet to an external address, the wallet can also shuffle some number of coins into an internal address. I've read that there are about 100 such addresses generated by the wallet for storing spare change.

Basically this means that if your balance in Darkcoin Balancelooks off, it is probably because some of your balance has been moved to a hidden address in your wallet - in my experience, as a result of an attempted send transaction. However, none of your coins have been lost.

You can find the hidden address(es) by following these instructions for the QT wallet:

Go to Help -> Debug Wallet in the Wallet menuClick on the Console tabThere should be a command prompt at the bottom of the window. Enter:listaddressgroupings and press RETURNIt should give you a list of addresses and balances - for example: [    [       ["XrXLBfbmGSLoU1biw7nnqbdyziJ9GSxV5A", 10.91900000],       ["Xxxas33JP8ri2G1TeAGNymqWvfYr1eY7aY", 1.79535900, "Purchases"]    ],    [       ["XfXsE4mmjFCfZ1gAcP8vLsjdYDucNTEAnE", 0.92520266, "Mining"]    ] ]                Notice that there is an address,XrXLBfbmGSLoU1biw7nnqbdyziJ9GSxV5Ain this case (yours will be different), that was created by the wallet without a label.Add that address into theDarkcoin Balance app. The balance shown should now match that shown in your Darkcoin QT wallet.

Because of this wallet behavior, I've found it more practical to useDarkcoin Balance with addresses from a wallet from which I don't do a lot of sending - e.g. the wallet that holds my mining address from a mining pool, or a buy-and-hold address that I use to withdraw from a currency exchange - as opposed to a wallet from which I'm doing active sending of funds.

Alternately, you could add all the hidden addresses to Darkcoin Balance as you discover them using the above techniqueWhy does my balance in Darkcoin Balance look lower than the balance shown in my wallet?

Darkcoin Balance examines the literal addresses you enter and reports the balances from theblockchain explorer. However, I have found that if I send coins from my QT wallet to an external address, the wallet can also shuffle some number of coins into an internal address. I've read that there are about 100 such addresses generated by the wallet for storing spare change.

Basically this means that if your balance in Darkcoin Balancelooks off, it is probably because some of your balance has been moved to a hidden address in your wallet - in my experience, as a result of an attempted send transaction. However, none of your coins have been lost.

You can find the hidden address(es) by following these instructions for the QT wallet:

Go to Help -> Debug Wallet in the Wallet menuClick on the Console tabThere should be a command prompt at the bottom of the window. Enter:listaddressgroupings and press RETURNIt should give you a list of addresses and balances - for example: [    [       ["XrXLBfbmGSLoU1biw7nnqbdyziJ9GSxV5A", 10.91900000],       ["Xxxas33JP8ri2G1TeAGNymqWvfYr1eY7aY", 1.79535900, "Purchases"]    ],    [       ["XfXsE4mmjFCfZ1gAcP8vLsjdYDucNTEAnE", 0.92520266, "Mining"]    ] ]                Notice that there is an address,XrXLBfbmGSLoU1biw7nnqbdyziJ9GSxV5Ain this case (yours will be different), that was created by the wallet without a label.Add that address into theDarkcoin Balance app. The balance shown should now match that shown in your Darkcoin QT wallet.

Because of this wallet behavior, I've found it more practical to useDarkcoin Balance with addresses from a wallet from which I don't do a lot of sending - e.g. the wallet that holds my mining address from a mining pool, or a buy-and-hold address that I use to withdraw from a currency exchange - as opposed to a wallet from which I'm doing active sending of funds.

Alternately, you could add all the hidden addresses to Darkcoin Balance as you discover them using the above technique.





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June 04, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
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why can't release the source code?A scam?
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why can't release the source code?A scam?

Because they're implementing features that they want to remain their own until they have finished them. That way they can be ahead of the curve a little bit to claim 1st position before other people copy it. Boring troll, dont know why I bothered answering you..

Trade crypto? Check out Quatloo Trader - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711966.0
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why can't release the source code?A scam?

Because they're implementing features that they want to remain their own until they have finished them. That way they can be ahead of the curve a little bit to claim 1st position before other people copy it. Boring troll, dont know why I bothered answering you..


Lovely explain,Hope you are right,I think he dare not openly inside is dirty.

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Ugh, I feel so stupid.  How could I not see they were trolls?  Over 7 feet tall, stinky with long greasy hair and huge noses and huge teeth, and the one chewing on a dead billy goat.  So stupid of me!  now on ignore, LOL

Couldn't help but laughing at that lol.

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