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You really are clueless sir...


Hopefully one will turn up at some point  Wink
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Don't worry I've taken it up the in the main bitcoin thread just to show how clueless you are. You don't even know how the blockchain works yet have the audacity to continue arguing.

P.S. That's also not the full definition of liquidity, if both sources has a buyer then the avg price of 1 fish being sold from the 10,000 will likely not change the avg price of the fish overall, unlike the selling of fractions of a bitcoin.

You really are clueless sir...

 I'm not the most proficient trader on earth, but allow me to disagree.

 1 fish out of 10,000 vs a fraction of BTC change in the price is no mark of liquidity. 1 fish cannot be subdivided to 8 decimal places, while BTC can.

 Liquidity as I know it, is the amount a available in the market, subject to price discovery. Period.

No, that's actually a bad analogy he just used and I was disregarding Bitcoin's denominations(vs fish for all things). Originally it was, 31 billion zeitcoins(Who can also be divided into 8 decimal places) and 1 BTC.

He's purposely trying to change things to suit his flawed argument, same as when he said that cryptocurrencies don't use much cryptography.


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No, that's actually a bad analogy he just used. Originally it was, 31 billion zeitcoins(Who can also be divided into 8 decimal places) and 1 BTC.

He's purposely trying to change things to suit his flawed argument, same as when he said that cryptocurrencies don't use much cryptography.

 Well, I totally missed that discussion, but yes, 31 billion zeitcoins available in the open market is much more liquid that 1 BTC. Each having the same 8 decimal points.

 1 fish in the market is infinitely more liquid that 0 BTC in the market.

 Whether people will but it or not, that is totally different argument.
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No, that's actually a bad analogy he just used. Originally it was, 31 billion zeitcoins(Who can also be divided into 8 decimal places) and 1 BTC.

He's purposely trying to change things to suit his flawed argument, same as when he said that cryptocurrencies don't use much cryptography.

 Well, I totally missed that discussion, but yes, 31 billion zeitcoins available in the open market is much more liquid that 1 BTC. Each having the same 8 decimal points.

 1 fish in the market is infinitely more liquid that 0 BTC in the market.

 Whether people will but it or not, that is totally different argument.

Thank you, hopefully you can also tell him that cryptography is prominently used in cryptocurrencies.

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April 04, 2015, 03:48:41 PM
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Damn we're that good, we've even got 2 separate global volume balloons at 3rd and 4th place, is this a first in cryptocurrency ?
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/graphicalComparison
imagine the size when they are combined  Grin

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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April 04, 2015, 03:49:07 PM
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I swear to god if anyone of you guys and girls sends a single dash to "dashpays" I will never accept any opinion you have about any subject more than I would the opinion of a toddler. Since you'll have clearly shown to not have any critical thinking.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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Was a little bored today so I made a list of the top posters over the last month:


User   Posts
toknormal   436
GhostPlayer   375
etoque   341
coins101   305
bigrcanada   271
oblox   238
qwizzie   222
AdamWhite   217
Sub-Ether   215
Minotaur26   208
iCEBREAKER   169
RenegadeMan   168
TaoOfSaatoshi   165
tungfa   152
illodin   144
BrainShutdown   140
stonehedge   135
TanteStefana2   129
Mangled Blue   123
Rux   122
BlockaFett   118
sangoku   109
qvan   103
splawik21   97
smooth   94
Kai Proctor   89
Otoh   88
ahoenk   87
MasterMined710   85
wpalczynski   81
r4vani   80

edit: No idea how to post tables here

edit 2:

Top 8 Posters Troll vs. Dash   
   
Dashing Dashers   
toknormal   436
GhostPlayer   375
etoque   341
coins101   305
bigrcanada   271
oblox   238
Sub-Ether   215
Minotaur26   208
Total   2389
   
Troll Brigade   
qwizzie   222
AdamWhite   217
iCEBREAKER   169
sangoku   109
qvan   103
smooth   94
wpalczynski   81
r4vani   80
Total   1075


Great job!

Props - I just unignored you.

I'm not 100% sure smooth has been trolling, but I haven't read all his posts.

From my experience with seeing smooth in various threads, he strikes me as being an asset to any project. But I'll defer to the views of those here who have seen most of his posts.

The majority of the others just look like run of the mill trolls trying desperately make a buck before they dump Monero

edit

taking a look back at smooth's posts, and will update

eh, any particular reason i'm on the Troll Brigade ? leading it no less ?

edit : actually thats a question for Sapereaude

Lol.  Yeah... I was thinking the same.  I don't have you on ignore.... AND you've been here awhile.... And I've never noticed fud/troll behaviour.  I'd be on it to see what's up... Because that's a dodgie group to be part of.  Wink

Woot ! really didn't realise Im #3 poster Grin
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Don't worry I've taken it up the in the main bitcoin thread just to show how clueless you are. You don't even know how the blockchain works yet have the audacity to continue arguing.

P.S. That's also not the full definition of liquidity, if both sources has a buyer then the avg price of 1 fish being sold from the 10,000 will likely not change the avg price of the fish overall, unlike the selling of fractions of a bitcoin.

You really are clueless sir...

 I'm not the most proficient trader on earth, but allow me to disagree.

 1 fish out of 10,000 vs a fraction of BTC change in the price is no mark of liquidity. 1 fish cannot be subdivided to 8 decimal places, while BTC can.

 Liquidity as I know it, is the amount a available in the market, subject to price discovery. Period.

No, that's actually a bad analogy he just used and I was disregarding Bitcoin's denominations(vs fish for all things). Originally it was, 31 billion zeitcoins(Who can also be divided into 8 decimal places) and 1 BTC.

He's purposely trying to change things to suit his flawed argument, same as when he said that cryptocurrencies don't use much cryptography.



Are things that bad for Monero that you have to promote it on the DASH thread ? You keep talking but there's no substance. Is this just to show your logo and sig ?
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Was a little bored today so I made a list of the top posters over the last month:


User   Posts
toknormal   436
GhostPlayer   375
etoque   341
coins101   305
bigrcanada   271
oblox   238
qwizzie   222
AdamWhite   217
Sub-Ether   215
Minotaur26   208
iCEBREAKER   169
RenegadeMan   168
TaoOfSaatoshi   165
tungfa   152
illodin   144
BrainShutdown   140
stonehedge   135
TanteStefana2   129
Mangled Blue   123
Rux   122
BlockaFett   118
sangoku   109
qvan   103
splawik21   97
smooth   94
Kai Proctor   89
Otoh   88
ahoenk   87
MasterMined710   85
wpalczynski   81
r4vani   80

edit: No idea how to post tables here

edit 2:

Top 8 Posters Troll vs. Dash   
   
Dashing Dashers   
toknormal   436
GhostPlayer   375
etoque   341
coins101   305
bigrcanada   271
oblox   238
Sub-Ether   215
Minotaur26   208
Total   2389
   
Troll Brigade   
qwizzie   222
AdamWhite   217
iCEBREAKER   169
sangoku   109
qvan   103
smooth   94
wpalczynski   81
r4vani   80
Total   1075


Great job!

Props - I just unignored you.

I'm not 100% sure smooth has been trolling, but I haven't read all his posts.

From my experience with seeing smooth in various threads, he strikes me as being an asset to any project. But I'll defer to the views of those here who have seen most of his posts.

The majority of the others just look like run of the mill trolls trying desperately make a buck before they dump Monero

edit

taking a look back at smooth's posts, and will update

eh, any particular reason i'm on the Troll Brigade ? leading it no less ?

edit : actually thats a question for Sapereaude

I have had you on ignore for some reason, to be honest I am not sure why.. Especially when I look back at your posts. However since I refuse to make AW No.1 in anything you can remain leader until a new troll leader rises :p

Edit: Since there is no official troll list I used those I know are trolls or had on ignore(which may have been those responding to them), will update when we have one or maybe will do one with number Moreno mentions.
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Thank you, hopefully you can also tell him that cryptography is prominently used in cryptocurrencies.

 Again, I did not participate in the original discussion, so I don't know exactly what toknormal said. One thing I am sure of it that he is one sound analyst and has an extremely sharp and proven sense of the market.

 cryptography as a verb, adjective or noun?

 One thing is cryptographic practice, the other is cryptographic properties, the other cryptography principles.  Three entirely different concepts subject to interpretation.
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Don't worry I've taken it up the in the main bitcoin thread just to show how clueless you are. You don't even know how the blockchain works yet have the audacity to continue arguing.

P.S. That's also not the full definition of liquidity, if both sources has a buyer then the avg price of 1 fish being sold from the 10,000 will likely not change the avg price of the fish overall, unlike the selling of fractions of a bitcoin.

You really are clueless sir...

 I'm not the most proficient trader on earth, but allow me to disagree.

 1 fish out of 10,000 vs a fraction of BTC change in the price is no mark of liquidity. 1 fish cannot be subdivided to 8 decimal places, while BTC can.

 Liquidity as I know it, is the amount a available in the market, subject to price discovery. Period.

No, that's actually a bad analogy he just used and I was disregarding Bitcoin's denominations(vs fish for all things). Originally it was, 31 billion zeitcoins(Who can also be divided into 8 decimal places) and 1 BTC.

He's purposely trying to change things to suit his flawed argument, same as when he said that cryptocurrencies don't use much cryptography.



Are things that bad for Monero that you have to promote it on the DASH thread ? You keep talking but there's no substance. Is this just to show your logo and sig ?

No, I haven't even thought of that until I read your comment, how is my talk no substance when I've corrected everything your fellow has incorrectly, sometimes deceivingly said? Are you trying to troll? I was responding to the ludicrous statements made by toknormal and co.

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April 04, 2015, 04:01:44 PM
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Be Afraid.  Be Very Afraid.

This is a "stock" install of shopping cart software with updated logos.  Don't be the first to order, you'll get taken.  Do you really need a free I-thing that badly?




By the way Oaxaca.... That video you shared was super super funny... I've even shared it in our companies twitter and Facebook.   Very well timed to since I just finished my Sommeliers exam in Montreal! Mr.  Fortuno LuCrazy!  Epic. Thanks for that

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Thank you, hopefully you can also tell him that cryptography is prominently used in cryptocurrencies.

 Again, I did not participate in the original discussion, so I don't know exactly what toknormal said. One thing I am sure of it that he is one sound analyst and has an extremely sharp and proven sense of the market.

 cryptography as a verb, adjective or noun?

 One thing is cryptographic practice, the other is cryptographic properties, the other cryptography principles.  Three entirely different concepts subject to interpretation.

You can go through my posting history to show you exactly what he said(It was entirely wrong, even gmaxwell corrected him). He said crytography, so we can only assume it was in general and encompassed all that you've listed.

Not doubting his analysis skills, he just continues to argue many false points while subtly changing the wording to fit his favor.

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April 04, 2015, 04:05:43 PM
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By the way Oaxaca.... That was super super funny... I've even shared it in our companies twitter and Facebook.   Very well timed to since I just finished my Sommeliers exam in Montreal! Mr.  Fortuno LuCrazy!  Epic. Thanks for that

My favorite quote was: "could you spare a coin for a moral cripple?"
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Thank you, hopefully you can also tell him that cryptography is prominently used in cryptocurrencies.

 Again, I did not participate in the original discussion, so I don't know exactly what toknormal said. One thing I am sure of it that he is one sound analyst and has an extremely sharp and proven sense of the market.

 cryptography as a verb, adjective or noun?

 One thing is cryptographic practice, the other is cryptographic properties, the other cryptography principles.  Three entirely different concepts subject to interpretation.

You being cryptic? ;p
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You being cryptic? ;p

 Touché  Grin
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he just continues to argue many false points while subtly changing the wording to fit his favor.

To clarify, I was highlighting the distinction between:

[1] encryption

and

[2] digital signatures

I cited a presentation where Vitalic Buterin stated categorically that there was no "encryption" in cryptocurrencies - rather they work use hashes and digital signatures (in Dash, blind signatures).

I wrongly paraphrased his statement as saying "there is no cryptography in cryptocurrencies" instead of "there is no encryption in cryptocurrencies".  A few posts later, I corrected myself and acknowledged the misquote, at which point I got (predictably) lambasted for being clueless about cryptography (Digital signatures and encryption are different branches of the more general term 'cryptography').

Here's the clip so judge for yourself the gravity of my misquote. In fact when Vitalik asks "anyone see what's wrong with that title", an audience member answers "cryptography" and Vitalik replies "Yes", however the more specific branch thats relevant is encryption.

Here's the clip (You need the sound up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zgkmQ-jQJHk#t=302
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...
...This is not trolling. This is a coordinated exist strategy and its aimed at finding easy to persuade people in the DASH thread and making them future Monero bag holders when they all exist.


Sitting on XMR is a mistake because there are way too many open vectors in what even the lead developer "smooth" has labeled as alpha software.
Placing large sums of any form of money in alpha software and expecting it to be secure is just plain foolish.


If you do so then ask yourself, am I feeling lucky?.

I agree with you, and I'm not being misquoted here.

But let's be real here, the entire market cap is like 5.5 million USD. That just isn't "large sums of money" when divided among a large number of participants. Its a very low speculative value fairly consistent with the risks involved balanced against what might be significant upside if the risks can be overcome.

Of course what is large to one person is small to another. Certainly no one should invest more than he or she can afford to lose in any speculative investment, and that includes not only any altcoin but any cryptocoin at all, in my view.


Wow, Smooth agrees that keeping any large sum of value is not safe because xmr is alpha. I was holding 540 xmr but will dump it asap. I got to admit I never expected this open admission from the xmr team. In the same post bcx talks about other exploits which again smooth doe not dispute.


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If you buy it you are making a bet on whether or not that happens. Simple as that. You don't buy XMR because you want to use it to buy a pack of gum at your local convenience store. It's 100% speculative. Decide how you want to bet, and bet, or don't bet.


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Don't you fear that you are going to be ignored by Moronos and called a troll?
Man, you're so brave

I don't think so. Spreading monero FUD on darkcoin thread? So cowardly if you ask me lol

More like convincing drk dumpers to buy back  Grin
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