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April 17, 2015, 10:11:21 AM
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Nice dump. We are under 3 USD now
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April 17, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
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Aha! so terzo the bot is set to trigger a random comment at price < $3  Roll Eyes
Next stop $2, or would we be talking half way down at $2.5 ?

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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April 17, 2015, 10:22:21 AM
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Aha! so terzo the bot is set to trigger a random comment at price < $3  Roll Eyes
Next stop $2, or would we be talking half way down at $2.5 ?
When the price was going upwards, comments like this was OK .
But now when I'm pointing out that the price is falling you are assaulting me .
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April 17, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
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Sorry most of the dump was mine tried to space it out.Cant see any difference from when it was dark but a name change really liked the coin and Dev but the price rise was pure hype

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April 17, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
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Aha! so terzo the bot is set to trigger a random comment at price < $3  Roll Eyes
Next stop $2, or would we be talking half way down at $2.5 ?
When the price was going upwards, comments like this was OK .
But now when I'm pointing out that the price is falling you are assaulting me .

 Good golly, someone upgraded your AI module!
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April 17, 2015, 10:52:34 AM
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Sorry most of the dump was mine tried to space it out.Cant see any difference from when it was dark but a name change really liked the coin and Dev but the price rise was pure hype

Sorry you feel that way.. personally I think the price drop is due to traders playing elsewhere in real pure hype spaces. The tech, dev team and prospects for Dash are solid. Hopefully we'll see you back here in the future.
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April 17, 2015, 12:15:06 PM
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Aha! so terzo the bot is set to trigger a random comment at price < $3  Roll Eyes
Next stop $2, or would we be talking half way down at $2.5 ?
When the price was going upwards, comments like this was OK .
But now when I'm pointing out that the price is falling you are assaulting me .

 Good golly, someone upgraded your AI module!

2nd generation model, some went rogue, jumped ship and disappeared  Grin

https://youtu.be/yWPyRSURYFQ

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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April 17, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
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Aha! so terzo the bot is set to trigger a random comment at price < $3  Roll Eyes
Next stop $2, or would we be talking half way down at $2.5 ?
When the price was going upwards, comments like this was OK .
But now when I'm pointing out that the price is falling you are assaulting me .

 Good golly, someone upgraded your AI module!

2nd generation model, some went rogue, jumped ship and disappeared  Grin

https://youtu.be/yWPyRSURYFQ


lol

your posts are becoming necessary reading (not quite essential yet, but not far off  Grin).
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April 17, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
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Come on Foundation chaps, we need to be listed on this:

"Genesis Trading, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Currency Group (DCG), allows investors to buy and sell large blocks of digital currencies, including bitcoin, litecoin and ripple, and follows strict AML/KYC procedures, according to O'Connor."

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113988/first-licensed-digital-currency-broker-dealer-genesis-trading-launches-in-the-us

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April 17, 2015, 01:15:49 PM
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Tante, you ask some excellent questions and give us much food for thought!

It may be helpful to put these things in context, though, by pointing out that nobody in the open source community has solved these issues. Up until very recently, one poorly-funded person was managing SSL. Countless Fortune 500 companies use SSL to make untold billions of dollars, but virtually none of them have ever invested a dime in the project. Even Linux--the backbone of many corporate systems around the world--is poorly funded and maintained largely by its creator (who is paid) and numerous volunteers.

If the open source projects that the entire IT community rely on are so poorly funded and maintained by amateur volunteers, it's not surprise that the open source crypto community should find that to be true as well.

Perhaps somebody who knows more about the open source movement and has worked with other open source projects can give us their thoughts on how to maintain Dash in a poorly-funded, post-Evan, volunteer-only world.

(N.B. One major difference between crypto and Linux or SSL is that the devs of crypto currencies usually own quite a bit of it, which means they are actually incentivized by the growth in value of their coin that results from their development efforts. If Evan hypothetically owned 100k Dash, he would be very motivated to continue full time on this project for a very long time, as his efforts will greatly increase the value of his holdings.)

Dash - Digital Cash
https://www.dash.org/
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April 17, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   


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April 17, 2015, 01:29:03 PM
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Threats

* Darkcoin technology is or will be open source. Clones can therefore spend more of their time focusing on marketing and eating into Darkcoin market share.
* Excessively used by bad actors for illegal purposes may create negative brand association over the medium term which may put off consumer focused merchants
* Launch of new anonymity protocols which offer better anonymity features
* Development team remains small and unable to scale the project
* Early success causing distractions and loss of focus for core team from technical and project development
* Development of Bitcoin sidechains which, when eventually made available, could link anonymity features to bitcoin transactions

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579976.0

Lets set-up a group of 5 and call ourselves team mass adoption  Cool
I think you need to add Vertoe taking over Cachecoin as a threat.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389.2300  He has intimate knowledge of DASH, is an excellent developer, and is really angry with Evan.  Those three variables make them a huge threat to DASH in my opinion.
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April 17, 2015, 01:31:06 PM
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   

WastedLTC I`ll use your service with pleasure and would be great if DASH would be one of the first crypto using your Name payments insted of Pubkeys....

BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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April 17, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   




How is your service different from the openalias project? Seems like they both do the same thing.
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April 17, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   




How is your service different from the openalias project? Seems like they both do the same thing.

There are a few players in this space.   I have created a "name" for myself through NMC and through OneName.      I don't have a monero wallet so not sure how else to create a name via OpenAlias.     They seem to have an approach and that's great.   If DASH could use this type of service that is also compatible with all other wallets/coins then lets move forward.   I'm reaching out now.    If the group decides to implement OneName or OpenAlias,  great.  I can use Dash without Public keys and I'm happy.       I have a service that is ready for DASH and I also have a great set of developers.    We are very concerned about privacy and are not looking to mess with anyone's public keys.  We are taking great steps to prove the public keys that are served are in fact not changed and we will continue to build out these services to gain additional trust.   

This isn't our day job and we didn't get a dime for putting in this much work and moving forward we are not asking for money.  Looking to improve the landscape and we will try to do what we can to help.    It's up to the group on how we move forward and I'm ok with that.
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I like this idea, also cause pub and priv key is very confusing to me! And i have MNs Cheesy
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Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   

WastedLTC I`ll use your service with pleasure and would be great if DASH would be one of the first crypto using your Name payments insted of Pubkeys....

Thanks splawik21,  thanks for hitting up the system and registering.   Anything we can do to smooth out the process we will.   

BTW,  offered to change the price to a penny for his registration and he was good with $1.    I have no issue changing the current price for all, just need some feedback.

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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   




How is your service different from the openalias project? Seems like they both do the same thing.

There are a few players in this space.   I have created a "name" for myself through NMC and through OneName.      I don't have a monero wallet so not sure how else to create a name via OpenAlias.     They seem to have an approach and that's great.   If DASH could use this type of service that is also compatible with all other wallets/coins then lets move forward.   I'm reaching out now.    If the group decides to implement OneName or OpenAlias,  great.  I can use Dash without Public keys and I'm happy.       I have a service that is ready for DASH and I also have a great set of developers.    We are very concerned about privacy and are not looking to mess with anyone's public keys.  We are taking great steps to prove the public keys that are served are in fact not changed and we will continue to build out these services to gain additional trust.   

This isn't our day job and we didn't get a dime for putting in this much work and moving forward we are not asking for money.  Looking to improve the landscape and we will try to do what we can to help.    It's up to the group on how we move forward and I'm ok with that.


Openalias isn't tied exclusively to XMR just so you know (at least to my knowledge it isn't) although I don't recall seeing it implemented elsewhere. I agree that a long string of characters isn't the most user friendly, especially if we start looking at it from the view of Joe Regular down the street.
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Price action looking like we're heading to .01-.0105ish. Support on books has dropped off quite rapidly with most liquidity just sitting on the sidelines waiting for direction.
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:

DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.

To succeed, DASH needs to grow.  It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe.  It needs mature services.  loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy?  Stock market, other infrastructure.  Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet.  The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.

But who will pay for all this work?  The potential is there, but funds are not.  Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making?  That could earn money to pay for future development?  Does anyone see a way that this could work.  It's not easy!  If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing.  How would projects get the green light?  How would this entity be funded? 

Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?

I have a group of dev's that have been working on a service for over a year and just not getting around to growing the integration.   I've reached out Evan about the service and haven't heard back.   People say they want it easy but then they actually have to make the steps to become easy.   From my first day in crypto I HATED public keys.   They will always be the #1 turnoff for anyone.   As soon as they see them,  they turn off and move on.   Its just too confusing.    Before the great INET, we had BBS's and those BBSs had telephone numbers.   No one remembered the number but they remembered the name.    DNS for websites did the same and buying a domain name was might more expensive than today.    Now take that and apply it to crypto.    (Did I mention I HATE public keys.)

OneName.io ties, but I don't feel it has any legs.   Namecoin tried but thats really just the datastore and not the end game.   I've made investments in NMC, Ether, and MAIDSafe in hopes they will provide the backend for a fully distributed and easy to use datastore.   Right now, thats not the case.

I've created a service with a group of devs called "Vanikey".    Its pretty much a DNS for public keys and we can grow it from there.    Single Vanikey can be associated to ANY coin or hash and you can have just one Vanikey for many public keys for the same coin.    We built the service on an elastic infrastructure so we know it can scale but this is only short term,   it looks centralized but we hope to get it distributed as it grows.   Just about done with the SSL implementation...

Right now we implementing the service inside the Bitcoin QT wallet.    Just about done, totally secure, but this is just a demo of how we can use it.    John can pay Susan.   Pretty simple stuff.   We don't need EMAILS to mark our online identity..     We don't even need a username and password...   We just need something easy to use and understand.   

SO.  My ask.  I would like to use this service with DASH and get things moving.   Right now we charge to register a Vanikey ($6) but we can skip that for the DASH community.   We have developers that can help fill any holes or issues the group feels need to be fixed and we also have resources to help integrate the services into any other system that is out there.      We are also working with Factom as a 3rd party to show that any key served up by our services has not been modified.     

We can even use the DASH QT wallet to create the Vanikey so you never have to use our site.    Looking for the BEST solution for the end user.    Why can't John just pay Susan.   This whole Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA2p! pays Xazjg6a7dt7uUtE1FGhxaRAaSvR7QVA33 is just crap.    You don't have to stop being private when you want to but for god sakes, I'm just talking about your PUBLIC keys.   You have public keys on your tags and you sites have them as donation links.   these should all be readable and thats it.    I want to donate to the dash foundation.   ok,  send 5 DASH to DashFoundation.    simple.   

Please check out our site and our FAQ.   I'll be posting the QT wallet video and all the code required to integrate once complete.    Please reach out if you have questions.      This entire project had no funding and we have not asked for a dime.   Right now I'm looking for your thoughts on how to make things easier and if Vanikey feels like a fit, then we remove the cost of registering for Dash users,   we put some dev resources to help integrate it, and become the FIRST crypto to use a name lookup service that will work not only for one coin but for all coins.

Thanks guys.   website =  www.vanikey.com

hit me up,   Support@vanikey.com

Til later!    Also, I am happy to be a part of this community and have 7 MNs and very close to adding another 3.   




Sound great!

Can you build your solution decentralize on top or along with Dash's masternodes network?
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